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*** Or they just attacked the much larger and denser population centres in Asia first before moving to Australia. Jakarta on it's own has half the population the entire country of Australia has. Then there's Beijing, Karachi, Delhi, Shanghai, Mumbai, Tianjin, Guangzhou, Seoul, Shenzhen, Tokyo, Dongguan, Bangkok, Wuhan, Lahore, Bangalore, Singapore, Surat, Chennai, Chongqing, Kolkata, Yangon, Shenyang, Hyderbad to destroy before you get down to cities the size of Sydney.

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*** Or they just attacked the much larger and denser population centres in Asia first before moving to Australia.Australia and didn't have enough ships to waste on Australia in the first strike. Jakarta on it's own has half the population the entire country of Australia has. Then there's Beijing, Karachi, Delhi, Shanghai, Mumbai, Tianjin, Guangzhou, Seoul, Shenzhen, Tokyo, Dongguan, Bangkok, Wuhan, Lahore, Bangalore, Singapore, Surat, Chennai, Chongqing, Kolkata, Yangon, Shenyang, Hyderbad to destroy before you get down to cities the size of Sydney.
Sydney ''and'' if you are already in the process of exterminating the 1.3 billion people in China and the 1.2 billion in India, or the 270 million in Indonesia or 120 million in Japan you might want to finish the job there properly before moving down to Australia with 20 million people spread out over the entire continent.
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*** Or they just attacked the much larger and denser population centres in Asia first before moving to Australia. Jakarta on it's own has half the population the entire country of Australia has. Then there's Beijing, Karachi, Delhi, Shanghai, Mumbai, Tianjin, Guangzhou, Seoul, Shenzhen, Tokyo, Dongguan, Bangkok, Wuhan, Lahore, Bangalore, Singapore, Surat, Chennai, Chongqing, Kolkata, Yangon, Shenyang, Hyderbad to destroy before you get down to cities the size of Sydney.
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[[WMG: The ship that attacked Australia was taken down by the wildlife.]]
* Because the wildlife in Australia is just [[EverythingIsTryingToKillYou that dangerous.]]
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* The aliens programmed their computers to be compatible with human technology so they could hijack our satellite network for communications.

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** I always figured that the Dad lived outside NYC (New Jersey maybe?) and David was only able to leave NYC because he used a bike to reach his Dad.


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[[WMG: The list of targeted cities]]
* The American ships:
** In the novelization, San Francisco buys it in the first wave (four ships attacking the USA instead of the three in the movie). I would figure that the LA ship would then head to San Diego before heading towards Nevada and Arizona while the San Francisco ship heads north towards Portland, the Seattle/Tacoma urban area and into Canada (with Vancouver).
** The DC ship razed Atlanta but somehow chose to head towards Houston while somehow ignoring Jacksonville and New Orleans.
** The NYC ship hit Philadelphia then Chicago. Why Chicago instead of the much closer Boston and Toronto? No idea.
* The European ships:
** One ship hit Paris then is mentioned as having hit Brussels next. In the novelization, the Dutch destroy a ship in the final battle, so it might be the same one.
** I haven't heard ''Independence Day UK'', but I should assume one single ship hit the major British cities one after the other.
* The rest of the world:
** The ships sent to New Delhi, Beijing and Tokyo had a field day with a huge selection of ripe targets all around.
** Looks like Cairo wasn't in the list of first targets despite its large population. The novelization mentions a ship in Tel Aviv. If that one ship then hit Alexandria, the timing could fit with its being destroyed while on its way to Cairo afterwards.
** Sydney wasn't on the first hit list either. Maybe they hit Canberra and/or Melbourne first?
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[[WMG: Major Mitchell is actually [[{{TheX-Files}} Knowle Rohrer]] under an alias, or vice versa.]]
Why not? They're both played by AdamBaldwin and it would make some kind of sense given their jobs.
Also, when the guy on the phone at the cable-TV-place says "I love the X-Files too", he wasn't referring to the TV show; the guy on the other end of the line was Mulder, whose viewing of some documentary on the paranormal had been interrupted so he was complaining that this would hurt his work on the X-Files. The guy on the phone was just agreeing with him to get him off the line. SO THERE, they can too take place in the same universe.
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* And it wasn't like GenreSavvy people weren't making a beeline out of their cities in the HOURS they had to do so. If Jeff Goldblum's character and his Dad were able to get out of New York and drive to Washington, millions must have gotten out of New York alone.
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* Much like Macs, the software of the invaders was designed to be incredibly simple to operate and virtually idiot-proof. The simple programming made it easy to design a virus to shut the system down.

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** So humans are [[{{Warhammer40000}} Orks]]?
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[[WMG: Postwar Earth, most of humanity is still alive]]

The aliens managed to destroy the first set of cities and most of their population because of the small window of time people had to escape. However, they apparently don't get to the next set of cities (which include Chicago and Houston in the Director's Cut) till the next day, giving citizens in most major cities time to escape.

In the United States in particular, New York, D.C., LA, Houston, and Chicago are confirmed to be destroyed, but as far as we know Phoenix, either San Francisco or San Diego (depending on which California city the aliens chose to target first after LA), Dallas, and Miami are all probably still intact.

Within the USA, Florida might be the best place to live if Miami, Ft. Lauderdale, Orlando, and Tampa are still intact.

It's possible also that Canada is doing relatively well. We don't know if the aliens targeted Toronto, but even if Toronto is gone, most of the rest of Canada could still be intact.
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[[WMG: Post war Earth is under the rule of a single world state, the Aliens living in District Nine Ghettos.]]
* Overall causalties are realitivly low because the Cities where mostly evacuated. The surviving human governments band together in a loose federation to maintain order, rebuild, deal with the refugee crisis, and prepare for the next alien attack (this never comes as the Aliens where an autonomous migrant fleet which invade a planet, loot it and then take off.) Meanwhile not all the aliens died when their ships went down, so the new Earth Government is forced to do something about this new minority, and not willing to commit total genocide, build various ghettos around the world.
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* Tiny little anti-aircraft missiles? That one tribe was able to take one down with spears!


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[[WMG: Humans must always fight]]

* While the movie seems to be making the point that it is possible for humans of all countries to unite, what it is actually saying is far more depressing: Humans always need an enemy, and the only time they will stop fighting each other is when aliens come and they can have someone else to fight with.
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* Step 5: Even with advanced alien manufacturing technologies, the construction of the ship will last ca. 50 years. Meanwhile, the natives send out smaller scout ships to seek out and explore potential candidates for planetary colonization.

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* Step 5: Even with advanced alien manufacturing technologies, the construction of the ship will last ca. 50 years. Meanwhile, In the meantime, the natives send out smaller scout ships to seek out and explore potential candidates for planetary colonization.
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Step 5: Even with advanced alien manufacturing technologies, the construction of the ship will last ca. 50 years. Meanwhile, the natives send out smaller scout ships to seek out and explore potential candidates for planetary colonization.
Step 6: See Step 1.

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* Step 5: Even with advanced alien manufacturing technologies, the construction of the ship will last ca. 50 years. Meanwhile, the natives send out smaller scout ships to seek out and explore potential candidates for planetary colonization.
* Step 6: See Step 1.
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[[It is a vicious circle.]]

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[[It [[WMG: It is a vicious circle.]]
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[[It is a vicious circle.]]
* Step 1: Ca. 50 years after the arrival of the first scouts, a gigantic interstellar alien space ship comes to a planet with nice living conditions, in order to destroy or enslave all native sentient life and to colonize the planet.
* Step 2: The natives defeat the aliens and destroy the mother ship.
* Step 3a: NoEndorHolocaust does not apply. The remnants of the huge mother ship cause devastating environmental problems. The living conditions on the planet get significantly worse.
* Step 3b: At the same time, the native sentients experience an enormous technological leap forwards, due to all the alien stuff, free to loot and reverse-engineer for everyone.
* Step 4: The living conditions on the planet will soon become unbearable. The natives decide to construct a gigantic interstellar space ship, one where their whole population will fit in, and to leave the planet.
Step 5: Even with advanced alien manufacturing technologies, the construction of the ship will last ca. 50 years. Meanwhile, the natives send out smaller scout ships to seek out and explore potential candidates for planetary colonization.
Step 6: See Step 1.
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** Meh... [[AliensAreBastards They had it coming.]]
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[[WMG: The movie is actually intended as a GreenAesop]]

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[[WMG: The movie is actually intended as delivering a GreenAesop]]GreenAesop.]]
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[[WMG: The mother ship contained the aliens' ''entire'' population.]]
* Thus, like so many times before, humanity is once again responsible for the [[WhatTheHellHero total extinction]] of an unique form of life. [[HumansAreBastards Bastards!]]

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[[WMG: The movie is actually intended as a GreenAesop]]
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The mother ship contained the aliens' ''entire'' population.]]
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''[[LastOfHisKind entire]]'' population. Thus, like so many times before, humanity is once again responsible for the [[WhatTheHellHero total extinction]] of an unique form of life. [[HumansAreBastards Bastards!]]
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{[WMG: The mother ship contained the aliens' ''entire'' population.]]

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{[WMG: The mother ship contained the aliens' ''entire'' population.]]
* Thus, like so many times before, humanity is once again responsible for the [[WhatTheHellHero total extinction]] of an unique form of life. [[HumansAreBastards Bastards!]]
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* Why? because is the stereotype, which, as TheNostalgiaCritic argues, the film is full of Stereotypes. Also, he has to overcome his wife's death in some point.

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* Why? because is that's the stereotype, which, as TheNostalgiaCritic argues, stereotype and the film is full of Stereotypes.stereotypes. Also, he has to overcome his wife's death in some point.
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[[WMG: In the sequel, the president will have a romance with an alien princess]]
* Why? because is the stereotype, which, as TheNostalgiaCritic argues, the film is full of Stereotypes. Also, he has to overcome his wife's death in some point.
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Think about it. With all of the chaos that occurred, the government decides "Screw repairing Manhattan!" and throws the worst offenders in it. After Snake Plissken's little adventure, followed by the attack by {{Godzilla}} InNameOnly, they finally start fixing things again. (AlanMoore, if you're reading this, feel free to use it in a LeagueOfExtraordinaryGentlemen segment).

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Think about it. With all of the chaos that occurred, the government decides "Screw repairing Manhattan!" and throws the worst offenders in it. After Snake Plissken's little adventure, followed by the attack by {{Godzilla}} InNameOnly, they finally start fixing things again. (AlanMoore, if you're reading this, feel free to use it in a LeagueOfExtraordinaryGentlemen segment).
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[[WMG: The Aliens' ships are actually unmanned suicide weapons]]
* The alien's strategy is this: make a fleet of [[CoolStarship cool starships]] which are incredibly big and dense. Then, make the ships' engines or cores [[MadeOfExplodium explode as soon as it is hit with an anti-aircraft missile]]. Spend decades [[AliensStealCable stealing cable]] to make the computer interface compatible with their computers and use as little memory as possible. Add a laser and invincibility to make the ship fearsome. Maybe some fighters or some cyborgs to convince the targets that these are real aliens. Then, send the ships to the target planet, let them get blown up and fall to the ground, the targets thinking they had won. 50 years later, the real ships should arrive. The nuclear winter caused by untold billions of tons of burnt ship floating in the atmosphere should have left a completely barren planet, free of trigger happy sapient creatures and [[TheWarOfTheWorlds pesky biological deterrents]]. The aliens in the real ships clean up the debris, xenoform the planet and colonize it. This explains why a computer completely obsolete even by today's standards 'beat' the aliens, while making the extraterrestrials infinitely more powerful.
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*Newton's third law: the ships were supporting themselves with some sort of technobabble graviton beam system that interacted with the earth itself, spreading out the forces through the rock underneath, rather than propelling material downwards. (Which still relies on technobabble and impossible as far as we know technology, but a lot of the physics issues people spot in the movie may work like this.)
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* Sorry, the {{Novelization}} of ''EscapeFromNewYork'' actually provided an explanation, and it had absolutely ''nothing'' to do with aliens. [[spoiler: The United States was hit with a massive nerve gas attack by the Soviet Union, and New York is hit especially hard. As a result, it is subsequently declared uninhabitable, and the government decides to turn it into a prison.]] Interesting thought, though.

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* Sorry, the {{Novelization}} of ''EscapeFromNewYork'' actually provided an explanation, and it had absolutely ''nothing'' to do with aliens. [[spoiler: The United States was hit with a massive nerve gas attack by the Soviet Union, and New York is was hit especially hard. As a result, it is was subsequently declared uninhabitable, and the government decides decided to turn it into a prison.]] Interesting thought, though.
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* Sorry, the {{Novelization}} of ''EscapeFromNewYork'' actually provided an explanation, and it had absolutely ''nothing'' to do with aliens. [[spoiler: The United States was hit with a massive tear gas attack by the Soviet Union, and New York is hit especially hard. As a result, it is subsequently declared uninhabitable, and the government decides to turn it into a prison.]] Interesting thought, though.

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* Sorry, the {{Novelization}} of ''EscapeFromNewYork'' actually provided an explanation, and it had absolutely ''nothing'' to do with aliens. [[spoiler: The United States was hit with a massive tear nerve gas attack by the Soviet Union, and New York is hit especially hard. As a result, it is subsequently declared uninhabitable, and the government decides to turn it into a prison.]] Interesting thought, though.
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* Sorry, the {{Novelization}} of ''EscapeFromNewYork'' actually provided an explanation, and it had absolutely ''nothing'' to do with aliens. [[spoiler: The United States was hit with a massive tear gas attack by the Soviet Union, and New York is hit especially hard. As a result, it is subsequently declared uninhabitable, and the government decides to turn it into a prison.]] Interesting thought, though.

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Think about it: With all of the chaos that occurred, the government decides "Screw repairing Manhattan!", and throws the worst offenders in it. After Snake Plissken's little adventure, followed by the attack by {{Godzilla}} InNameOnly, they finally start fixing things up again. (AlanMoore, if you're reading this, feel free to use it in a LeagueOfExtraordinaryGentlemen segment).

[[WMG: The aliens are actually the ones from {{Watchmen}}.]]
[[spoiler: Veidt]] made his creations a bit too well and they punched a hole in space time, coming to an Earth without superheroes (save a few with {{Charles Atlas Superpower}}s). Lucky for us he was right about humanity uniting in the face of an incomprehensible evil and the day was saved, mostly. (The fallout from all those nukes and the giant-ass [=UFOs=] raining from the sky, plus the major political and economic centers of each country destroyed means that we're going right back to HumansAreBastards a few years down the road.)
::"All those nukes"? Only two were used in the whole movie, & one of those was completely contained within the mothership.
*** This WMG assumes that the other nations also used their nuclear arsenal against the aliens.

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Think about it: it. With all of the chaos that occurred, the government decides "Screw repairing Manhattan!", Manhattan!" and throws the worst offenders in it. After Snake Plissken's little adventure, followed by the attack by {{Godzilla}} InNameOnly, they finally start fixing things up again. (AlanMoore, if you're reading this, feel free to use it in a LeagueOfExtraordinaryGentlemen segment).

[[WMG: The aliens are actually the ones from {{Watchmen}}.]]
[[spoiler: Veidt]] made his creations a bit [[GoneHorriblyRight too well well,]] and they punched a hole in space time, coming time and came to an Earth without superheroes (save a few with {{Charles Atlas Superpower}}s). Superpower}}s).

Lucky for us us, he was right about humanity uniting in the face of an incomprehensible evil evil, and the day was saved, mostly. (The fallout from all those the nukes and -- it is likely that other countries used their arsenal on daughterships -- the giant-ass giant [=UFOs=] raining from the sky, plus and the major political and economic centers of each country destroyed destroyed, means that we're going right back to HumansAreBastards a few years down the road.)
::"All those nukes"? Only two were used in the whole movie, & one of those was completely contained within the mothership.
*** This WMG assumes that the other nations also used their nuclear arsenal against the aliens.



See the above WMG. Humanity is going to take a long time to recover, and as evidenced by the looting that happened in New York and Los Angeles moments before the [=UFOs=] toasted them a lot of people won't want to wait for civilization to come back.

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See the above WMG. Humanity is going to take a long time to recover, and as evidenced by the recover. We ''see'' looting that happened in New York and Los Angeles moments before the [=UFOs=] toasted them a them. A lot of people won't want to wait for civilization to come back.



These events aren't mentioned in the archives because, well, it's been a few hundred years and the stories [[AdaptationDecay got a little]]...[[AdaptationDisplacement distorted]].

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These events aren't mentioned in the archives because, well, because it's been a few hundred years and the stories [[AdaptationDecay got a little]]...[[AdaptationDisplacement distorted]].



The situation we leave our heroes in as the movie fades to black is even more doomtastic than the [[NoEndorHolocaust Endor Holocaust]]. A spacecraft "one fourth the size of the Moon" has just blown itself to smithereens and at the altitude we saw it hovering when Goldblum and Smith went to meet it the debris is pretty much all coming down on us. Even if it was mostly hollow there's going to be enough wreckage to bury the surface of Earth several kilometers deep (after first incinerating it from the heat of all that junk reentering). Rocks fall, everyone dies.
* Everyone on the surface dies dies; those fortunate enough to reside in the vault-like extraterrestrial technology enhanced Area51 survive, their decedents emerge centuries later to form a post-apocalyptic technocracy.

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The situation we leave our heroes in as the movie fades to black is even more doomtastic than the [[NoEndorHolocaust Endor Holocaust]]. A spacecraft "one fourth the size of the Moon" has just blown itself to smithereens and smithereens; at the altitude we saw it hovering when Goldblum and Smith went to meet it it, the debris is pretty much all coming down on us. Even if it was mostly hollow there's going to hollow, there will be enough wreckage to bury the surface of Earth several kilometers deep (after after first incinerating it from the heat of all that junk reentering). reentering. Rocks fall, everyone dies.
* Everyone
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*Everyone
on the surface dies dies; those dies. Those fortunate enough to reside in the vault-like extraterrestrial technology enhanced Area51 survive, their decedents will survive. Their descendants emerge centuries later to form a post-apocalyptic technocracy.



Why did the aliens use such absolutely unreasonably gigantic spacecraft to cart around wimpy beam weapons that packed approximately as much punch as a pile of nuclear bombs that could fit in a modest-sized human aircraft? Why did the city killers burn so readily when shot with piddly little anti-aircraft missiles once their invulnerable energy shields were down? Why did the wrecked city killer hovering over Area 51 drift gently away to crash far off in the distance? How could they hover without Newton's third law crushing everything on the ground beneath them? No magic anti-gravity needed, they were almost entirely filled with lighter-than-air hydrogen bladders.
* Alternately, the ships are huge cause the aliens never invented the transistor-- the ships are full of giant ''vacuum tubes''.
** Remember that they were hauling their entire civilization on those ships? They needed quite a bit of space.

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Why did the aliens use such absolutely unreasonably gigantic spacecraft to cart around wimpy beam weapons that packed approximately about as much punch as a pile of nuclear bombs that could fit in a modest-sized human aircraft? Why did the city killers burn so readily when shot with piddly tiny little anti-aircraft missiles once their invulnerable energy shields were down? Why did the wrecked city killer hovering over Area 51 drift gently away to crash far off in the distance? How could they hover without Newton's third law crushing everything on the ground beneath them? No magic anti-gravity needed, them?

Simple --
they were almost entirely filled with lighter-than-air hydrogen bladders.
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The
ships are full of giant ''vacuum tubes''.
** Remember that they were hauling their entire civilization on those ships? They needed quite a bit of space.

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