History WMG / IndependenceDay

4th Jun '16 8:11:41 PM beatpole
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[[WMG: Independance Day takes place in the Endersvers]]
Independance Day is actually the First Formic War referred to in Ender's Game, but from the American perspective; or possibly a pro-America historical rewrite created as Hegemon propaganda. Resurgence is the Second Formic War, and the conclusion of the trilogy is Ender's Game itself.
16th Apr '16 2:47:35 PM erforce
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Think about it. With all of the chaos that occurred, the government decides "Screw repairing Manhattan!" and throws the worst offenders in it. After Snake Plissken's little adventure, they finally start fixing things again. (Creator/AlanMoore, if you're reading this, feel free to use it in a LeagueOfExtraordinaryGentlemen segment).

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Think about it. With all of the chaos that occurred, the government decides "Screw repairing Manhattan!" and throws the worst offenders in it. After Snake Plissken's little adventure, they finally start fixing things again. (Creator/AlanMoore, if you're reading this, feel free to use it in a LeagueOfExtraordinaryGentlemen ''[[Comicbook/TheLeagueOfExtraordinaryGentlemen League of Extraordinary Gentlemen]]'' segment).
31st Mar '16 3:56:53 PM LtFedora
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** According to the novelization, Whitmore is a Democrat. It's established during Nimzicki's intro, which establishes that Whitmore is the ''fourth'' president he's served and the second Democrat.
2nd Mar '16 4:04:06 PM LtFedora
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[[WMG: Switzerland was a BigDamnHero.]]
The War of 1996 website shows that Geneva and Zurich survived the attack. Seeing that this was a global alien invasion, Switzerland decided "Screw neutrality!" and declared that they would help in the European front. However, once it became clear that the aliens had deflector shields, they held back their forces until a way could be found to get through them. As the remnants of the German Luftwaffe fought over Munich, the Swiss Air Force arrived at the last minute and allowed the destruction of the Berlin ship.
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24th Feb '16 5:44:49 PM LtFedora
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* Jerusalem: Dome on the Rock.
* Tehran: Azadi Tower.
23rd Feb '16 6:22:41 PM LtFedora
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* San Francisco: The Transmaerica Pyramid.

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* San Francisco: The Transmaerica Transamerica Pyramid.
23rd Feb '16 5:50:36 AM LtFedora
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*** Boston was lost in Wave 3. There was also a ship that destroyed Toronto, so that was probably the one that took out Chicago.




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* Rome: St. Peter's Basilia, maybe? It is to the west of the center, though.
* San Francisco: The Transmaerica Pyramid.
15th Feb '16 4:47:10 PM LtFedora
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* Confirmed with Grey. The War of 1996 website shows that Grey was president from 2001 to 2005.
3rd Feb '16 3:01:29 PM harlbior
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* {{Jossed}} by ''Film/IndependenceDayResurgence'', which indicates that there are survivors from the first movie some 20 years later.



[[WMG: In the sequel, the president will have a romance with an alien princess]]
* Why? because that's the stereotype and the film is full of stereotypes. Also, he has to overcome his wife's death in some point.



[[WMG: Post war Earth is under the rule of a single world state, the Aliens living in District Nine Ghettos.]]
* Overall causalties are realitivly low because the Cities where mostly evacuated. The surviving human governments band together in a loose federation to maintain order, rebuild, deal with the refugee crisis, and prepare for the next alien attack (this never comes as the Aliens where an autonomous migrant fleet which invade a planet, loot it and then take off.) Meanwhile not all the aliens died when their ships went down, so the new Earth Government is forced to do something about this new minority, and not willing to commit total genocide, build various ghettos around the world.

[[WMG: Postwar Earth, most of humanity is still alive]]

The aliens managed to destroy the first set of cities and most of their population because of the small window of time people had to escape. However, they apparently don't get to the next set of cities (which include Chicago and Houston in the Director's Cut) till the next day, giving citizens in most major cities time to escape.

In the United States in particular, New York, D.C., LA, Houston, and Chicago are confirmed to be destroyed, but as far as we know Phoenix, either San Francisco or San Diego (depending on which California city the aliens chose to target first after LA), Dallas, and Miami are all probably still intact.

Within the USA, Florida might be the best place to live if Miami, Ft. Lauderdale, Orlando, and Tampa are still intact.

It's possible also that Canada is doing relatively well. We don't know if the aliens targeted Toronto, but even if Toronto is gone, most of the rest of Canada could still be intact.

* And it wasn't like GenreSavvy people weren't making a beeline out of their cities in the HOURS they had to do so. If Jeff Goldblum's character and his Dad were able to get out of New York and drive to Washington, millions must have gotten out of New York alone.
** I always figured that the Dad lived outside NYC (New Jersey maybe?) and David was only able to leave NYC because he used a bike to reach his Dad.



* The Hiller part is jossed, but mostly because Roland Emmerich and Dean Devlin ''didn't'' get Will Smith to return (Hiller [[spoiler: died in a flight-test accident]] in 2007).

[[WMG: Post-invasion Europe is dominated by the French-Italian Empire]]
Italy and France have a ''huge'' dose of resentment against anyone who believes them [[CheeseEatingSurrenderMonkey cowards unable to fight]], and their relationship tend to be that of VitriolicBestFriends.

Assuming the aliens attacked nuclear powers first due the results of nuking ground troops and lack of knowledge on their ships' ability to survive nukes, France was hit hard but in the end triumphed on their attacker with German, Italian, Portuguese, Spanish and Swiss help... And then most of the world believed it was the everybody but the French and the Italians who did all the job. A few months later [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis,_Prince_Napol%C3%A9on Louis, Prince Napoléon]] is elected Napoleon VI, Emperor of the French and the Italians to serve as a common leader.

Immediately after, Switzerland is crushed by the sudden attack coming from East and South, Austria surrender to the Italians when they bomb Vienna, Germany is overran by the French (with the Italians clearing the mountains after they crossed the Alps), Spain and Portugal get spared because they publicly admitted the French and Italian valour from the beginning, the conquered populations are so stunned and terrified by having their armed forces utterly crushed by the military {{Butt Monkey}}s of Europe that they join the Empire, and the rest of the world stop making CheeseEatingSurrenderMonkey jokes for fear of being next on the list.

Then they conquer Libya because Gaddafi tried to get compensations for the Italian occupation and swears when the Empire replies he still owe them money for the nationalized Italian industries, and retake the rest of the Italian colonial empire because Eritrea joins the Empire, Ethiopia tries to stop Eritrea and Somalian pirates mistook the carrier ''Garibaldi'' for a tanker and attacked.

** Jossed. The War of 1996 website shows that humanity put aside its differences and united in the wake of the attack. In addition, it's shown that Switzerland, Spain, and Portugal are the only European countries which didn't suffer any losses in the attack. With the loss of Brussels, Geneva probably became the new center of the European Union.

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* The Hiller part is jossed, {{Jossed}}, but mostly because Roland Emmerich and Dean Devlin ''didn't'' get Will Smith to return (Hiller [[spoiler: died in a flight-test accident]] in 2007).

[[WMG: Post-invasion Europe is dominated by the French-Italian Empire]]
Italy and France have a ''huge'' dose of resentment against anyone who believes them [[CheeseEatingSurrenderMonkey cowards unable to fight]], and their relationship tend to be that of VitriolicBestFriends.

Assuming the aliens attacked nuclear powers first due the results of nuking ground troops and lack of knowledge on their ships' ability to survive nukes, France was hit hard but in the end triumphed on their attacker with German, Italian, Portuguese, Spanish and Swiss help... And then most of the world believed it was the everybody but the French and the Italians who did all the job. A few months later [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis,_Prince_Napol%C3%A9on Louis, Prince Napoléon]] is elected Napoleon VI, Emperor of the French and the Italians to serve as a common leader.

Immediately after, Switzerland is crushed by the sudden attack coming from East and South, Austria surrender to the Italians when they bomb Vienna, Germany is overran by the French (with the Italians clearing the mountains after they crossed the Alps), Spain and Portugal get spared because they publicly admitted the French and Italian valour from the beginning, the conquered populations are so stunned and terrified by having their armed forces utterly crushed by the military {{Butt Monkey}}s of Europe that they join the Empire, and the rest of the world stop making CheeseEatingSurrenderMonkey jokes for fear of being next on the list.

Then they conquer Libya because Gaddafi tried to get compensations for the Italian occupation and swears when the Empire replies he still owe them money for the nationalized Italian industries, and retake the rest of the Italian colonial empire because Eritrea joins the Empire, Ethiopia tries to stop Eritrea and Somalian pirates mistook the carrier ''Garibaldi'' for a tanker and attacked.

** Jossed. The War of 1996 website shows that humanity put aside its differences and united in the wake of the attack. In addition, it's shown that Switzerland, Spain, and Portugal are the only European countries which didn't suffer any losses in the attack. With the loss of Brussels, Geneva probably became the new center of the European Union.
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[[WMG: If the sequels happen, the destroyed cities will be at least partially rebuilt]]

If, as theorized above, we reverse-engineer the alien tech, it's not hard to imagine gigantic construction robots being developed to help with the rebuilding efforts.

[[WMG: In the sequel, the remaining aliens and humans must work to fight together against the zombies created by the nuclear waste created when they nuked Houston.]]

Forced into an alliance by the swarms of zombies, can they overcome the previous epic battle?
** Independence Day 2: Aliens vs Zombies

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\n[[WMG: If the sequels happen, the destroyed cities will be at least partially rebuilt]]\n\nIf, as theorized above, we reverse-engineer the alien tech, it's not hard to imagine gigantic construction robots being developed to help with the rebuilding efforts. \n\n[[WMG: In the sequel, the remaining aliens and humans must work to fight together ** Humanity wages a war against the zombies created a telepathic alien race, wins by the nuclear waste created when they nuked Houston.]]

Forced into an alliance by the swarms of zombies, can they overcome the previous epic battle?
** Independence Day 2: Aliens vs Zombies
destroying their mothership, builds a space fleet and launches a retaliatory fleet to attack their homeworld? ''Film/EndersGame'', anyone?
20th Jan '16 2:07:48 PM Erkhyan
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** Novelization says they went for the Forbidden City.


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*** The novelization mentions that the Paris ship parked its main weapon above Notre-Dame.
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