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* Italy had a nightmare after UsefulNotes/WorldWarTwo because after [[UsefulNotes/NuclearWeapons what happened to Japan]], he was paranoid about anyone else he loved getting hurt, and this paranoia found its way into his [[YourWorstNightmare worst nightmares]].
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* Italy had a nightmare after UsefulNotes/WorldWarTwo because after [[UsefulNotes/NuclearWeapons what happened to Japan]], he was paranoid about anyone else he loved getting hurt, and this paranoia found its way into his [[YourWorstNightmare worst nightmares]].nightmares.
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Look at the dialogue for that scene and tell me it doesn't sound like a LotusEaterMachine. Basically, once the loop thing goes on long enough, whoever goes back in time will be put in one by Steve. Eventually the person going back in time will be convinced to stay and their physical body will become another Steve. However, if the illusion fails to trap the person (which is probably not that common, sadly), they learn how to get everyone out and then wake up. Holy Rome somehow found his way to the mansion and weaseled his way into the illusion to prevent this from happening to Italy, possibly due to the "mansion attracts regrets" theory above. Because of this the game will have either a NonStandardGameOver if Italy stays trapped in the illusion, or MultipleEndings ---the BadEnd where Italy gives in and [[KillEmAll everyone dies]], and the EarnYourHappyEnding where he doesn't and then saves everyone.
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Look at the dialogue for that scene and tell me it doesn't sound like a LotusEaterMachine. Basically, once the loop thing goes on long enough, whoever goes back in time will be put in one by Steve. Eventually the person going back in time will be convinced to stay and their physical body will become another Steve. However, if the illusion fails to trap the person (which is probably not that common, sadly), they learn how to get everyone out and then wake up. Holy Rome somehow found his way to the mansion and weaseled his way into the illusion to prevent this from happening to Italy, possibly due to the "mansion attracts regrets" theory above. Because of this the game will have either a NonStandardGameOver if Italy stays trapped in the illusion, or MultipleEndings ---the BadEnd where Italy gives in and [[KillEmAll everyone dies]], dies, and the EarnYourHappyEnding where he doesn't and then saves everyone.
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Okay, hear me out. Now, in the episode, [[Recap/DoctorWhoS32E8LetsKillHitler "Let's Kill Hitler"]] we are introduced to a group from a Justice Department in the future, who travel in a shape-shifting, time-traveling android in order to punish people who have committed great crimes in the past. Now, what if there was a rogue group in the Justice Department that stole an android in order to "punish" the nations, whom they deemed as the "source" of the crimes? Of course, they'd just start off with Italy and Co. but, move on to the others later. They take the form of an [[EldritchAbomination alien monster]] in order to freak them out. As for why they allow Italy to go back; it's just [[ForTheEvulz a twisted game]] and they actually planned to just [[KillEmAll kill the other nations]] later on, not withholding to the [[spoiler: deal of just killing Italy and letting the others go.]]
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Okay, hear me out. Now, in the episode, [[Recap/DoctorWhoS32E8LetsKillHitler "Let's Kill Hitler"]] we are introduced to a group from a Justice Department in the future, who travel in a shape-shifting, time-traveling android in order to punish people who have committed great crimes in the past. Now, what if there was a rogue group in the Justice Department that stole an android in order to "punish" the nations, whom they deemed as the "source" of the crimes? Of course, they'd just start off with Italy and Co. but, move on to the others later. They take the form of an [[EldritchAbomination alien monster]] in order to freak them out. As for why they allow Italy to go back; it's just [[ForTheEvulz a twisted game]] and they actually planned to just [[KillEmAll kill the other nations]] nations later on, not withholding to the [[spoiler: deal of just killing Italy and letting the others go.]]
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* What? [[BigWhat WHAT!?]] [[PoisonOakEpilepticTrees Nonono, it can't be! God no, I refuse to believe this!]]
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* What? [[BigWhat WHAT!?]] [[PoisonOakEpilepticTrees [[WMG/PoisonOakEpilepticTrees Nonono, it can't be! God no, I refuse to believe this!]]
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A la SilentHill, complete with the supernatural powers, like bringing its visitors into alternate dimensions. Steve itself, as well as all the other monsters, are also physical manifestations of the mansion's power. However, while Silent Hill puts its visitors through hell in order to get them to move past their sins, the mansion is just putting Italy through hell FortheEvulz/ FortheLulz. It enjoyed [[BreakTheCutie Breaking The Cutie]], and when Italy made the deal to keep going back in time until either he got killed or he managed to save his friends, it got especially happy with the prospect of Italy fail and fail again, as it's a KillerGameMaster. It's power over the "game" is not complete, as Romano and Spain managed to join it, and the other nations are outside breaking the clocks (which are the locks to the mansion's alternate dimension. Break all the clocks, and the mansion fully rejoins the real world, where it cannot influence the flow of time). The mansion realized that this sudden change could be what would finally let Italy win, so it decided to move the key because there's no way it's letting Italy beat it.
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A la SilentHill, Franchise/SilentHill, complete with the supernatural powers, like bringing its visitors into alternate dimensions. Steve itself, as well as all the other monsters, are also physical manifestations of the mansion's power. However, while Silent Hill puts its visitors through hell in order to get them to move past their sins, the mansion is just putting Italy through hell FortheEvulz/ FortheLulz.ForTheEvulz/ ForTheLulz. It enjoyed [[BreakTheCutie Breaking The Cutie]], and when Italy made the deal to keep going back in time until either he got killed or he managed to save his friends, it got especially happy with the prospect of Italy fail and fail again, as it's a KillerGameMaster. It's power over the "game" is not complete, as Romano and Spain managed to join it, and the other nations are outside breaking the clocks (which are the locks to the mansion's alternate dimension. Break all the clocks, and the mansion fully rejoins the real world, where it cannot influence the flow of time). The mansion realized that this sudden change could be what would finally let Italy win, so it decided to move the key because there's no way it's letting Italy beat it.
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* Italy's journal was given to him by Martha. Either that or he's got a fob watch hidden somewhere... That would be awesome.
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* Italy's journal was given to him by Martha. Either that or he's got a fob watch hidden somewhere... That would be awesome.awesome.
[[WMG:Japan and Prussia both went back in time in at least one of the loops]]
* It's one possible reason why Japan sees so many more memories than the others, and why Prussia hears those weird voices...
[[WMG:Japan and Prussia both went back in time in at least one of the loops]]
* It's one possible reason why Japan sees so many more memories than the others, and why Prussia hears those weird voices...
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** On the note of the meaning of Ryuuzu, at first the translation "crown" might not make any sense. But actually, crown doesn't have to mean the thing that royalty wears, it can also refer to the spinning bit on a pocket watch stem, used to adjust the time. If the other translation is "watch stem", then it makes perfect sense. Just a bit of knowledge this troper has picked up from owning a pocket watch.
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** On the note of the meaning of Ryuuzu, at first the translation "crown" might not make any sense. But actually, crown doesn't have to mean the thing that royalty wears, it can also refer to the spinning bit on a pocket watch stem, used to adjust the time. If the other translation is "watch stem", then it makes perfect sense. Just Also, just a bit hypothesis, but Ryūzu could be the actual name of knowledge this troper has picked up from owning the previous owner, and it only roughly translates to Ryuuzu because of the emphasis bar on top of the first "u". In English we don't have such a pocket watch.convention, the nearest way to emphasize a sound is by repeating it, thus the translation would spell the name as "Ryuuzu" as opposed to "Ryūzu". The intended name might've been "Ryūzu".
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**On the note of the meaning of Ryuuzu, at first the translation "crown" might not make any sense. But actually, crown doesn't have to mean the thing that royalty wears, it can also refer to the spinning bit on a pocket watch stem, used to adjust the time. If the other translation is "watch stem", then it makes perfect sense. Just a bit of knowledge this troper has picked up from owning a pocket watch.
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[[WMG: The events experienced by the Nations in Heta Oni brought about those of the ''ModernWarfare'' games.]]
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[[WMG: The events experienced by the Nations in Heta Oni brought about those of the ''ModernWarfare'' ''VideoGame/ModernWarfare'' games.]]
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[[WMG: Related to the ''ModernWarfare'' WMG above, the events of that series are the result of Russia managing to escape.]]
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[[WMG: Related to the ''ModernWarfare'' ''VideoGame/ModernWarfare'' WMG above, the events of that series are the result of Russia managing to escape.]]
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** New link, sans pictures unfortunately: http://lsunnyc.tumblr.com/post/24358761417/hetaoni-extra-scenes-translated In the original, one could see Japan talking to a Grey and calling it Prussia...
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** New link, sans pictures unfortunately: http://lsunnyc.[[http://lsunnyc.tumblr.com/post/24358761417/hetaoni-extra-scenes-translated New link]], sans pictures unfortunately. In the original, one could see Japan talking to a Grey and calling it Prussia...
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** New link, sans pictures unfortunately: http://lsunnyc.tumblr.com/post/24358761417/hetaoni-extra-scenes-translated In the original, one could see Japan talkingto a Grey and calling it Prussia...
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** New link, sans pictures unfortunately: http://lsunnyc.tumblr.com/post/24358761417/hetaoni-extra-scenes-translated In the original, one could see Japan talkingto talking to a Grey and calling it Prussia...
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** New link, sans pictures unfortunately: http://hetaoni-theories.tumblr.com/post/23525288201/hetaoni-extra-scenes-translated
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com/post/24358761417/hetaoni-extra-scenes-translated In the original, one could see Japan talkingto a Grey and calling it Prussia...
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* On that note, what does "Ryuuzu" mean anyway? This Troper went and looked into it and found the Japanese word "竜頭", which written in our alphabet would be Ryūzu (pretty close to Ryuuzu, right?). Ryūzu means ''crown'', as well as ''watch stem''. While ''crown'' doesn't necessarily fit to HetaOni's theme, ''watch stem'' works rather well, as it's the part of the watch used to ''set the time''. So if Ryuuzu does equal to Ryūzu, then Ryuuzu is whoever can go back in time, whoever has the role equivalent to a ''watch stem''. So that varies from Italy to [[spoiler:England]] to the Thing to any previous victims! I realise this doesn't actually help come up with who Ryuuzu is though...
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* On that note, what does "Ryuuzu" mean anyway? This Troper went and looked into it and found the Japanese word "竜頭", which written in our alphabet would be Ryūzu (pretty close to Ryuuzu, right?). Ryūzu means ''crown'', as well as ''watch stem''. While ''crown'' doesn't necessarily fit to HetaOni's VideoGame/HetaOni's theme, ''watch stem'' works rather well, as it's the part of the watch used to ''set the time''. So if Ryuuzu does equal to Ryūzu, then Ryuuzu is whoever can go back in time, whoever has the role equivalent to a ''watch stem''. So that varies from Italy to [[spoiler:England]] to the Thing to any previous victims! I realise this doesn't actually help come up with who Ryuuzu is though...
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* Well, the characters from which Italy hears about the mansion appear to be those from AoOni so in a way, confirmed.
** I doubt this will happen. The AoOni characters were talking about a different mansion ('their' mansion) and Italy remembered the compass direction wrong - I think they said it was 'North' but Italy told America 'East', but don't quote me on that.
** I doubt this will happen. The AoOni characters were talking about a different mansion ('their' mansion) and Italy remembered the compass direction wrong - I think they said it was 'North' but Italy told America 'East', but don't quote me on that.
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* Well, the characters from which Italy hears about the mansion appear to be those from AoOni VideoGame/AoOni so in a way, confirmed.
** I doubt this will happen. TheAoOni VideoGame/AoOni characters were talking about a different mansion ('their' mansion) and Italy remembered the compass direction wrong - I think they said it was 'North' but Italy told America 'East', but don't quote me on that.
** I doubt this will happen. The
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[[WMG: The events of HetaOni happen at the same time as"The Sound of Drums" and "Last of the Time Lords" in ''Doctor Who'']]
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[[WMG: The events of HetaOni VideoGame/HetaOni happen at the same time as"The Sound of Drums" and "Last of the Time Lords" in ''Doctor Who'']]
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**You are correct. Although in the game ''Ryuuzu'' is usually written in katakana, there's one point where Japan says "the previous name is ''Ryuuzu no Ko''" and uses the kanji! The kanji he uses for ''ryuuzu'' does, indeed, mean 'watch stem'. ''Ko'' is written 'orphan', which raises some even more interesting questions.
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Let's face it, if you hear screaming in the forest, you're going to try to find out where the screams come from. And judging by how old the house is, there's probably no soundproofing, so someone would have had to hear the screams at one point. I believe that the reason that no law enforcement has broken down the door is that the house is [[HiddeninPlainSight hiding in plain sight]] -- somewhere where there's a lot of screams can be heard, but are dismissed as [[AllPartOfTheShow part of the ride]]. After long thinking, I deduced that the most likely place that the mansion is hidden in is [[spoiler: the show building for TheHauntedMansion in Orlando]]. Why? Because it's big and spacious, and no one gets suspicious about screams. And yet, no one ever actually sets foot on it. It's a perfect location for Steve to hide his victims.
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Let's face it, if you hear screaming in the forest, you're going to try to find out where the screams come from. And judging by how old the house is, there's probably no soundproofing, so someone would have had to hear the screams at one point. I believe that the reason that no law enforcement has broken down the door is that the house is [[HiddeninPlainSight hiding in plain sight]] -- somewhere where there's a lot of screams can be heard, but are dismissed as [[AllPartOfTheShow part of the ride]]. After long thinking, I deduced that the most likely place that the mansion is hidden in is [[spoiler: the show building for TheHauntedMansion Ride/TheHauntedMansion in Orlando]]. Why? Because it's big and spacious, and no one gets suspicious about screams. And yet, no one ever actually sets foot on it. It's a perfect location for Steve to hide his victims.
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* On that note, what does "Ryuuzu" mean anyway? This Troper went and looked into it and found the Japanese word "竜頭", which written in our alphabet would be Ryūzu (pretty close to Ryuuzu, right?). Ryūzu means ''crown'', as well as ''watch stem''. While ''crown'' doesn't necessarily fit to HetaOni's theme, ''watch stem'' works rather well, as it's the part of the watch used to ''set the time''. So if Ryuuzu does equal to Ryūzu, then Ryuuzu is whoever can go back in time, whoever has the role equivalent to a ''watch stem''. So that varies from Italy to [[spoiler:England]] to the Thing to any previous victims! I realise this doesn't actually help come up with who Ryuuzu is though...
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* Italy had a nightmare after WorldWarTwo because after [[TheDeadliestMushroom what happened to Japan]], he was paranoid about anyone else he loved getting hurt, and this paranoia found its way into his [[YourWorstNightmare worst nightmares]].
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* Italy had a nightmare after WorldWarTwo UsefulNotes/WorldWarTwo because after [[TheDeadliestMushroom [[UsefulNotes/NuclearWeapons what happened to Japan]], he was paranoid about anyone else he loved getting hurt, and this paranoia found its way into his [[YourWorstNightmare worst nightmares]].