History WMG / FinalFantasyVII

** Not to mention he appears to have a had a sexchange and shows up as the main protagonist of FFXIII.
** Nah, it's Gilgamesh. Then again, Gilgamesh didn't appear in VII...Could Cloud and Gilgamesh be one-in-the-same?! Or in cahoots?!

[[WMG: In the inevitable sequel...]]

[[WMG: Cloud is copying Squall?]]

There are so many serious {{WMG}}s on this page, but this idea came to this troper the other night and it won't let go. As a sufferer of dyscalculia, with several dyslexic relatives and friends, it makes way too much sense. He shares the following in common with most otherwise highly-intelligent and talented people that she knows with this condition:

* Tries to appear to be reading constantly, in order to deflect any suspicion. (In his case, it's likely a matter of vanity and not wanting to appear even more inferior to Sephiroth in the eyes of the public.)
* Obsesses over said work and talks about it constantly to keep up the appearance of reading it out of favouritism, not fear.

Just wanted to get that out there.

Didn't he cause huge impact on Gaia even after he died? Didn't he ''come back''? He's angelic, is infused as a human embryo or has a 'rebirth' of sorts from Jenova (Jehovah / Yahweh, who obviously is {{God}}), and Shinra Corp ''were'' destroying the planet -- if he could make a flood as a deluge, why not a meteor? He even has one wing, symbolizing he's only half human.

* Just one problem with all this... Sephiroth is [[AxCrazy batfuck]] [[NeutralEvil evil]].

* Kinda {{Jossed}} [[GameplayAndStorySegregation in game]], as the characters actually discuss that possibility and come to the conclusion that Aerith may have intended to come back alive after summoning Holy.

[[WMG: Aerith is [[Main/MessianicArchetype Jesus.]]]]
She, the last of those chosen ones of the Lifestream (The Cetra), sacrifices her life so that mankind may live (she was even pierced while summoning the Holy spell aka '''Praying''' for the absolution of mankind and the Planet from Meteor / The Apocalypse, not unlike the Biblical scenario with Longinus). In ''Advent Children'' Cloud cures everyone by Baptizing them in the spring where she died. Also, everything about her abilities have religious overtones (Holy? Great Gospel? Come on!) Main/WhatDoYouMeanItsNotSymbolic!

** No. Jenova / Sephiroth symbolizes the OT God and Judaism respectively (Sephiroth is the Kabbalah, and also the Sandherin who killed Jesus). Aerith on the other hand symbolized true, [[MessianicArchetype messianic]] Christianity who died for our sins (not the HERESY-screaming Christians nowadays).

...and they're ''[[Main/MessianicArchetype Jesus]]''. In ''purgatory''.

* And the player by extension is also a Jesus. [[AGodAmI Heh heh heh....]]

* Both of them suck. Hojo was the real BigBad.

*** In that case...why didn't Jenova get a Final Boss Speech then?

***** On the flip side, the fact your using Hojo as a plausible explanation already makes suspect. Dude was crazy, man, and obsessed over Sephiroth. Not exactly the most objective person to ask. Not to mention the exist of Jenova-SYNTHESIS, who is not part of Bizzaro-Sephiroth at all.

*** I always thought it was odd that Jenova broke out that specific night when cloud etc. we're in the building. Maybe it was a coincidence, but I think either cloud being there or her breaking out was a factor dependent on the other (because of them being so genetically connected due to the experiments with Jenova cells that Cloud was subjected to) and perhaps this event was what launched the whole sephiroth/jenova subplot/mainplot ontop of Shinra/Avalanche/the planet's efforts.

[[WMG: The world only industrialised recently, perhaps within President Shinra's lifetime]]

[[WMG: All party members are in fact [[SplitPersonality different personalities in Cloud's mind]]]]

Since Sephiroth is part of the party during the flashback, ''Final Fantasy VII'' is the story of Cloud's struggle within himself.

[[WMG: The series takes place inside Aerith's imagination.]]

** Actually, Aerith is a PuritySue in AdventChildren only, (and KingdomHearts series, but then again all ''Franchise/FinalFantasy'' charaters are [[LighterAndSofter toned down]] by this series, to the fans annoyance), and that's Clouds imagination, how Cloud sees her, possibly. She has this FatalFlaw, which I consider it enough for her not to be in the MarySue territory, overconfidence ("I can save Tifa on my own"(from Don Corneo), "I was raised in the slums, I'm used to danger"..."I can save the world on my own, [[ItWasHisSled what can possibly happen]]"). But according to your theory she's a pretty decent {{fanfic}} writer(the {{plot}} is amazing), despite some inaccuracies.

** Zack and Cloud, her boytoys? Sure, why not. She always seem to find herself in a LoveTriangle, whatever the adaption. But Sephiroth a [[VillainSue Villain Stu]]...he has CharacterDevelopment (doesn't have to be always positive) through the Compilation, to separate him from a MartyStu.

** Or she's Japanese, or simply not Christian at all, when mix-and-matched Catholic and Jewish (The Promised Land) traditions. Oh, and "Aerith The Sue"? You [[HateDom hate]] her to [[IncrediblyLamePun death]], don't you?

** In the original game, as well as a DMW flashback in Crisis Core, Sephiroth said this regarding Hojo in Nibelheim "A man once told me never to use an unscientific term such as 'mysterious power'! It shouldn't even be called 'magic'! I still remember how angry he was." "Hojo of Shinra, Inc. ... An inexperienced man assigned to take over the work of a great scientist. He was a walking mass of complexes." Sephiroth clearly thinks that Hojo is a hack. I would say that this isn't WMG, it's canon.

[[WMG: Sephiroth was DeadAllAlong, and Cloud is responsible for everything.]]

[[WMG: Sephiroth was DeadAllAlong, and Jenova is responsible for everything.]]

[[WMG: You can only use Soft and Revive on party members who fall in a battle in which you participate.]]

* I always assumed Phoenix Down or Revive was used to resuscitate someone who was just Mostly Dead. Soft turns you back into a person but if your statue was damaged too heavily in the mean time you're screwed. Trying to Soft the father and then Revive him wouldn't work because he's already too far gone by that point. Weathering alone would mean he doesn't have any skin anymore. The worst we see the main characters get is knocked around a little or lightly fried. Plus, there isn't an item to restore lost limbs, or recover someone's flesh that has decomposed.

[[WMG: Cloud was possessed by Sephiroth (or his Heartless, or his Memory, or whatever) at the end of the game.]]

[[WMG: Sephiroth was a shizophrenic driven by Jenova's alien instincts.]]

** Well, not sure about the Schizophrenia part, even though Sephiroth does act....kinda like a paranoid schizophrenic. But regardless, he DOES have Jenova Cells that somehow mutated inside him. Those probably are the parts of him that gave him the Jenova Instinct to start to a family barbecue on the Planet.

[[WMG: Sephiroth was DeadAllAlong and is ''still'' responsible for everything.]]

[[WMG: Sephiroth is in purgatory.]]

[[WMG: Jenova is the same species as [[VideoGame/ChronoTrigger Lavos]]]]

[[WMG: Characters can naturally use magic (Limit Breaks), Materia just enhances their natural abilities.]]

[[WMG: Jenova is a [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyVIII Sorceress]].]]

[[WMG: The distant ending that takes place 500 years later is NOT a RocksFallEveryoneDies ending.]]

'''Crap, all of these bad things are happening in Midgar. We're out of here.''' Is there a trope for that? Simply put, the residents move out of Midgar and scatter to the corners of the Earth, to other less populated towns. So, maybe Choco Billy has new hands helping him in his farm, or Kalm gets a burst of people to fill in its latest expansion (courtesy of Dirge of Cerberus), or Mideel gets rebuilt, leaving the Planet alone to handle turning Midgar back into... whatever that is.

[[WMG: Supernova is an illusion and the characters are suffering from a {{Heroic BSOD}}. This is reflected by the hit point loss, which reflects not injuries but also willingness to fight and defensive skill. Cure spells are as much morale-bolsterers as healing mechanisms.]]

[[WMG: Sephiroth possesses Cloud at the end of the game.]]

[[WMG: FFVII is the triumph of polytheism over monotheism.]]

[[WMG: Jenova is an incarnation of Omega WEAPON from the future.]]

[[WMG: Shinra is a lot more evil than any of us realize.]]
Shinra is a corporation that milks the Planet of its lifeforce and apparently doesn't give any in return, making the land around Midgar a barren desert. The Lifestream is the current of energy in all living things, which returns to the planet once the organism dies, continuing the cycle. It´s very likely that the Shinra corporation realized that their relationship with the Planet was 'all take and no give', and tried to fix it. How?

* One more chance and Shinra would have [[ANaziByAnyOtherName death camps and gas chambers]]. Or perhaps they do already have those....

[[WMG: Cloud's buster sword has an anti-gravity field around it.]]

[[WMG: Final Fantasy 7 is a deconstruction of Final Fantasy 6.]]

* Yuffie is Shadow, deconstructing the {{Highly Visible Ninja}} trope--- Shadow is still pretty awesome and ninja-like, while Yuffie is a pretty terrible ninja unless you stop paying attention to her.
* And AVALANCHE is The resistance- A RagtagBunchOfMisfits with a small percentage of trained fighters. In FFVI- LaResistance makes it possible for the day to be saved! In FFVII- LaResistance [[FirstEpisodeSpoiler is mercilessly slaughtered thanks to a novice error]]! The interesting thing, though, is the {{Reconstruction}} zig-zagging towards the end and in ''Advent Children''- In FFVI, [[spoiler: The world is shattered twice over, and the world is poisoned]], but life goes on. In FFVII, [[spoiler: the world-shattering plot is beaten back]], the soul of the land ''and the people'' [[FromBadToWorse are poisoned]], and [[ZigZaggingTrope it all goes away]] thanks to application of more brute force and Miracle-Cure ([[AndNinetyNineCents 149]]gil at your nearest baptismal spring)!

[[WMG: [=FF7=] is a decontruction of [[EasternRPG JRPGs]] pre-1997 in general.]]

[[WMG: [=FF7=] is an Alternate Universe of Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion ]]

[[WMG: Weiss and/or Nero is/are alive]]
* When Weiss says, "Let us go to him," he ''knew'' that Genesis was going to come get him. Hence why he wasn't too torn up about losing the fight with Vincent.

At the end, Weiss wasn't completely assimilated with Omega because Nero's darkness made him "impure."

[[WMG: The Lifestream rejected Nero, who is currently wandering the face of The Planet]]
If Omega rejected Nero, why wouldn't it's fuel source?

[[WMG: Even in the original game Rufus had his own moral code which he followed.]]

[[WMG: Jenova is even more dangerous then believed.]]

[[WMG: The Planet is Spira some time before the formation (And fall) of Zanarkand.]]

[[WMG: Sephiroth is a [[{{Dune}} Kwisatz Haderach]] bred in the Scattering]]

[[WMG: Midgar and Junon are incomplete [[MortalEngines traction cities.]] ]]
Junon and Midgar especially severely drained their surroundings of Mako. The eventual plan was to make them mobile so they could move to a fresh location. Explains why Midgar was floating on a plate. Shinra just got lazy or presumed there was no need to mobilize the cities.

[[WMG: Hojo is becoming Jenova.]]
Or was, assuming he's really dead [[spoiler: this time]]. He was an EvilutionaryBiologist from the beginning and was quite fond of messing around with others genes, in the case of Vincent literally turning him into a monster (or rather multiple) which is also Jenova's MO. And when he [[spoiler: came back from the dead]]. The first thing he did was try to [[spoiler: hijack the Lifestream]]. The exact same thing Jenova planned. He even goes OneWingedAngel more often then the TropeNamer. Of course he didn't inject himself with the cells until very late in, most the traits were already there. But while Sephiroth is certainly in the running for it, Hojo very much seems to be a more accurate "human embodiment" for Jenova. Either he was exposed without knowing it very early on, which led to the rest, or what was already there was magnified in the end, leading to his plan in [[spoiler: Dirge of Cerberus]], as he unknowingly became the embodiment of Jenova's will.

[[WMG: FFVII is a parable/allegory between Good and Evil and Science vs Faith.]]

Redemption becomes a key core in Advent Children/Complete, with Cloud blaming himself for his weaknesses and his inability to help anyone; with help from friends and loved ones alike, he casts his burdens aside, and at the end of the film, baptizes the children of Jenova's stain with Aerith's holy water in the church. (Your take on these might be different, but I liked seeing this games and film through this perspective...almost similar to the Narnia series, in certain ways)

[[WMG: Cloud is a Unicorn.]]

[[WMG: Jenova is an Avatar of Nyarlhathotep.]]

[[WMG: Materia is how the life stream/planet reproduces.]]

[[WMG: How Sephiroth's sword works]]

[[WMG: Materia are what's left of the Crystals]]
This ties in with the many "Planet is sentient" {{WMG}}s, and to the overall theme of deconstruction throughout FFVII. Consider, the Crystals were the ultimate power of light, good, and life in many previous entries, and the theme of science being used to subjigate the forces of magic is prevalent in both FFV and FFVI. In the world of FFVII humanity(via the ShinRa Corp.) has turned the Crystals into a commodity in the form of Materia, and is tapping directly into their power source, the Lifestream, by way of Mako energy. Wheras magic previously required training, spiritual awareness, or a hereditary ability to commune with the life force, ShinRa has gone straight to the source and canibalized it into little crystal balls that anyone can slot into their weaponry or equipment. Planet is sentient, and it's pissed at us because we've murdered it's messengers and guardians, used their corpses as a shortcut to power we have no comprehension of, and are tapping directly into it's nervous system/bloodstream to fuel the very machines we've used to subjigate it. Humanity has canibalized the Planet's immune system to allow itself faster access to power, and now that Planet faces a threat that said immune system was specifically designed to protect we have to use the White Materia(perhaps the last true Crystal left in the world) to jump start it back up again. It's no wonder that Bunhaggen thinks Planet might hold a grudge, we've been treating it horribly for generations.

[[WMG: The Black Materia (in Sephiroth's plan) doesn't just summon an ordinary meteor, but a meteor containing larger masses of Jenova cells.]]

[[WMG: The Cetra used the Black Materia to bring their downfall upon themselves.]]
Because This Troper wants an [[AndManGrewProud And The Precursors Grew Proud backstory]]. Back then the Ancients used the immense power of the Black Materia to conjure immense quantities of divine power from Aerith-knows-where, but of course, they ended up bringing themselves the "Calamity From The Skies", whose immense eldritch power turned back against them. And the rest is FFVII history.

[[WMG: Marlene Wallace is the ''actual'' last Cetra]]

[[WMG: Masamune is a Cursed Sword that deals Vile damage]]

[[WMG: Vincent is Sephiroth's real father]]

* It never occured to me playing the original game, but the way later entries in the compilation make Sephiroth look like Vincent with white hair and Lucrecia's bangs sure made me wonder.

[[WMG: Mako energy = nuclear energy.]]

[[WMG: Kadaj is humanity and it's redempion.]]

[[WMG: The first Cait Sith was controlled by Tseng instead of Reeve.]]

[[WMG: LOVELESS is a prophecy foretelling the events of the Compilation.]]

[[WMG: Zack's final battle makes beginning of the game easier]]

[[WMG: Hojo abused Cloud]]
This came as a joke from a discussion this troper had with a friend where she said something about the ungodly thinks Hojo did to Cloud and Zack's bodies while they were unconscious in Nibelhiem. But then this troper got to thinking - it actually does make sense! Think about it - are we ever specifically told what Hojo actually does to people who he experiments on? Sure he ''says'' he's imbuing their bodies with Jenova Cells, Mako etc, but maybe this is just his coverup to disguise the nasty truth behind Hojo's acts. Maybe Cloud is not a 'failed experiment', maybe Hojo never performed the experiments he did on the Sephiroth Clones on him. Cloud's behaviour as he and Zack escaped Nibelhiem could be a result of the mental scarring of five years of abuse by Hojo. Perhaps Zack was not abused to the same extent (maybe Hojo prefered blonds), allowing him to stay as upbeat as ever. Cloud taking on Zack's persona at the end of Crisis Core could be his way of repressing these damaging memories.

[[WMG: Cloud was originally meant to be a [[HeroicMime silent protagonist]]]]

[[WMG: Bugenhagen is, at least from a thematic standpoint, the single most important character in the game.]]
Bugenhagen is strangely depicted in game simulataneously as a kind-hearted naturalist and a man obsessed with technology (this is even explicitly pointed out by both Bugenhagen and Barret), and, on a related point, can fly. The true moment of FridgeBrilliance here comes when one realizes that ''that's the point of the whole goddamn game.''

The principal antagonists, Professor Hojo and Sephiroth, each represent extreme imbalance in their interaction with nature/magic and technology. Hojo, of course, is obsessed with science, and even approaches studies of the planet with a heartlessly empirical attitude. Sephiroth, on the other hand, starts out fairly balanced- he is a result of scientific experimentation with the natural- but as he descends into insanity, he becomes more obsessed with the past and the planet itself, and seems to view technology with an attitude approaching even naïvete. They both are motivated by the mostly unexplained Jenova, the supernatural element in this aspect of the game.

[[WMG: The game is StarWars, and AVALANCHE is the Red Squadron.]]

[[WMG: Sephiroth didn't kill Aerith...]]

[[WMG: Gilgamesh DOES have a cameo in Final Fantasy VII.]]

[[WMG: Sony are the reason Square are holding off on a remake]]

[[WMG: Teioh is a different chocobo each time]]

[[WMG: The difference between humans and Cetra is cultural, not genetic.]]

* I'd propose a genetic element, but not an overpowering one: much like a human talent, there could be certain bloodlines that are strong in the 'talent' of understanding the Planet, but it's still something anyone could feasibly learn. Different people would simply have different amounts of trouble with it.

[[WMG: The Shinra family is from Nibelheim.]]

[[WMG: Red XIII, the galian beast, and the behemoth species are related.]]

[[WMG: Knights of the Round]]

[[WMG: One-Winged Flight]]

Major spoilers for Final Fantasy IX,
[[spoiler: The Terrans in FFIX move from star system to star system absorbing the life-stream of younger planets into theirs]].

the Gaia from FFIX thousands of years before the events of FFIX,or some other world the Terrans [spoilered].

[[WMG: In his appearance in Advent Children, Sephiroth is now 100% Jenova]]

[[WMG: Shinra is the real Calamity of the Skys. Jenova was just a Mako Experiment that served as a remnant of Shinra's downfall.]]

* This actually makes a lot more sense than what the expanded universe wants us to believe if you consider several facts the original game provides: 1) Jenova came to the Planet in a meteor; 2) the Black Materia has been used at least once (indicated by the wall art in the Temple of the Ancients and the fact that the Ancients felt a need to prevent the materia's use); and 3) there is only one visible crater on the surface of the planet (discounting the one that Ultimate Weapon created).

*** Actually, the game's reference to Kabbalah is a bit more nuanced. Sephiroth represents a being in Kabbalah who believes himself to be a god only because he is manipulated by his mother (Jenova, in this instance) and "shielded" him from the knowledge of the true deity. This is why Sephiroth initially (at the beginning of his fall) believes that he is a Cetra and that he has a divine right to rule the world. Sephiroth's name refers to the manifestations of god because his form is ironically used by the "false god" Jenova to obtain the Black Materia. Jenova is manipulating his desire to be a god (from the time when he believed it was his right as a Cetra) to gain control of the Lifestream as it originally intended. Aerith, on the other hand, is a true Cetra, who are suggested by overwhelming evidence to be {{Space Jews}}. It should be noted that the Cetra represent both god and the Jews at different levels. Sephiroth's impersonation of the Cetra refers to the god part, which creates his god complex.

** No. Jenova / Sephiroth symbolizes the OT God and Judaism respectively (Sephiroth is the Kabbalah, and also the Sandherin who killed Jesus). Aerith on the other hand symbolized true, [[TheMessiah messianic]] Christianity who died for our sins (not the HERESY-screaming Christians nowadays).

If the theories about Aerith being TheMessiah and Sephiroth the Anti-christ above are true, then Kadaj represents humanity and the possibility of redemption as well. Ok, Geostigma represents the original sin, originated by man's greed and wanting divinity; Sephiroth, who also can play as Satan here, controls people with Geostigma through Kadaj (to get the souls of people infected with it, as stated by him in the final fight), that also is being controlled, being aware of Sephiroth's return, but actually not knowing that he's behind all this, and it's not his "mother's" will, thinking that with all this he can win her love, or see her.

Since Sephiroth is part of the party during the flashback, VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII is the story of Cloud's struggle within himself.

Ever notice how you see the same shot of Aerith's face in green light at the beginning and end of the game? Obviously, the story of the game takes place within her mind. The segment after the credits featuring RedXIII seems to have "actually" taken place though. However, let's see what we can find out about Aerith from this new perspective:

** Actually, Aerith is a PuritySue in AdventChildren only, (and KingdomHearts series, but then again all FinalFantasy charaters are [[LighterAndSofter toned down]] by this series, to the fans annoyance), and that's Clouds imagination, how Cloud sees her, possibly. She has this FatalFlaw, which I consider it enough for her not to be in the MarySue territory, overconfidence ("I can save Tifa on my own"(from Don Corneo), "I was raised in the slums, I'm used to danger"..."I can save the world on my own, [[ItWasHisSled what can possibly happen]]"). But according to your theory she's a pretty decent {{fanfic}} writer(the {{plot}} is amazing), despite some inaccuracies.

* ''Final Fantasy X-2'', on the other hand, was not written by Aerith at all, but by her Brother (capital intended).

The Ultimania states that the Shinra family came from Spira from FinalFantasyX. It's likely Shinra's Ship crashed on the Planet then they tried to harvest Mako right from the start and implemented Shapeshifting in the Mako Monsters they created. The Planet wasn't trying to kill off humanity it was trying to kill off the parasitic Shinra family! The Cetra managed to defeat them and set them back a few centuries yet by Final Fantasy 7 they started the parisite buisness up again and were only stopped when Sephiroth used Meteor and the Lifestream fought it off saving both the planet and Rufus Shinra in the process.

* Plus, from a gameplay perspective, [[FridgeBrilliance the Buster Sword is Cloud's weakest weapon,]] usually replaced by the player at the first opportunity. There's really nothing special about it besides its symbolism.

[[WMG:[[HellstarRemina Remina]] is what you get when Jenova eats a planet]]

Or rather, 100% whatever species she was. Human in appearance obviously, but he outright states his goal was what she'd intended to do to the Planet when she arrived, and he ''was'' formed from Kadaj, a remnant forged from Jenova cells that were in the lifestream.

[[WMG:Vincent has the Terror Mask.]]

** Genesis, back at the end of DoC, has to fight Sephiroth imo- but if we take LOVELESS as a possible vague prediction of things to come, he will allow himself to be killed to preserve the planet, which is supposedly his mission: to be the planet's protector now. If the three friends in LOVELESS are Angeal as the hero, Genesis as the prisoner, and Sephiroth as the wanderer, that would be the way it would end according to the story. Returning to fight Sephiroth is foreshadowed in Crisis Core, notably in the Training Room scene, especially at the end, with Genesis saying "Nothing shall forestall my return" while the camera is on Sephiroth, who narrows his eyes slightly as the red light in the room lights him. Case of the Lifestream: Black indicates that Sephiroth has difficulty resurrecting himself due to the fact that his memories of himself are fragmented/gone, which was why he needed Cloud and his memories to fully manifest after Kadaj absorbed Jenova cells in Advent Children. If enough time passes between DoC and the end of the Compilation, Cloud may not remember Sephiroth well enough to help bring him back (something that perhaps not only Sephiroth but everyone else may want at this point if he keeps causing trouble from within the Lifestream, as he would be harder to defeat in the Lifestream, necessitating his physical return) but Genesis likely would, as he would be the last person left alive who really knew Sephiroth well. This passage of time may be long enough to give us at least Denzel, Marlene, and the girl with the moogle doll whose brother dies, as playable characters. Hell, maybe Priscilla too, who knows. To tie it back together to LOVELESS: Genesis will allow Sephiroth to kill him (which, since Genesis is the conduit through which Sephiroth has returned, will also destroy Sephiroth, unbeknownst to him) to save the planet, thereby achieving redemption for his past sins ("to find the end of the road in my own salvation... and your eternal slumber")("I offer thee this silent sacrifice"). The "gift of the goddess" is not an individual's immortality but the immortality of the planet itself, which is gained when both the avatar of Destruction (Sephiroth) and the avatar of Salvation (Genesis) return to the Lifestream at the same time, keeping things in a balanced state- and balance is a favorite theme in the Final Fantasy series. Note: some of the more uncommonly heard concepts here like the gift of the goddess being the planet's immortality and containing destruction and salvation are from English translations of Crisis Core guides and the like found on various web pages; I didn't make that part up. Most of it is full on WMG though, baby.

** Screw Advent Children, ''that'' should have been FF7's sequel material; some other JENOVAH-like creature sensing that she'd been killed and came over to investigate.

In Crisis Core, after the other games were written and released, we find Genesis quoting LOVELESS a lot. Oddly enough, the quotes all mentioned can be related to the rest of the Compilation in some way. Take the quote about the tree friends, one dies, one flies away, and the one that is left becomes a hero. This can be seen as either Genesis, Angeal, and Sephiroth, or as Zack, Sephiroth and Cloud. The one that dies is, for the first group, Sephiroth, and Zack for the second. For the one that flies away, it is first Genesis, then Sephiroth. For the one who becomes a hero, it is first Angeal's Heroic Sacrifice, and Cloud's stubborn refusal to allow Sephiroth to win for the second. All of Genesis' quotes can be interpreted in some way to be related to the overall plot of the Compilation of FF7.

* While I agree that LOVELESS is about the overarching storyline of the Compilation of FF7, I have a few different thoughts. I think the trio can only be 2 trios- Angeal, Genesis, Sephiroth, or Cloud, Zack, Aerith. The reason Zack, Sephiroth, and Cloud don't work as a trio is that neither Zack nor Cloud were ever really friends with Sephiroth (he and Zack are friendly but not really friends, and Cloud is just some grunt to Sephiroth before he stabs him in Nibelheim) and LOVELESS states that all 3 are friends. The problem with Zack/Cloud/Aerith is at some point the "wanderer" or "wandering soul" (Aerith in this case) fights the "prisoner" (Cloud) (Zack, the "hero", is the one who dies) and I don't see that happening. In fact, I can't imagine anyone from that trio fighting one another- so they're scrapped. On the other hand, Angeal as the hero, Genesis as the prisoner, and Sephiroth as the wanderer seem to work out pretty well. Angeal is dead, but if we need a "hero" presence his legacy was passed down to Zack and then from him to Cloud; this doesn't change that fact that Angeal is still the true representation of the "hero" as far as the trio goes. Sephiroth as "the wandering soul" who "knows no rest" would be the antagonist who picks a fight with his former friend, the prisoner, Genesis. As far as what this means for future installments, that is in a post further up the page under "In the Inevitable Sequel".

[[WMG:[[HellstarRemina:Remina]] is what you get when Jenova eats a planet]]

Major spoilers for Final Fantasy IX: [[spoiler: The Terrans in FFIX move from star system to star system absorbing the
life-stream of younger planets into theirs.]] Jenova is a probe to find suitable planets, and Gaia in FFVII may even be

Major spoilers for Final Fantasy IX: [[spoiler:The Terrans in FFIX move from star system to star system absorbing the

[[WMG:Sephiroth was guided to start [[NeonGenesisEvangelion Instrumentality]] by Jenova.]]

[[WMG: [=FF7=] is an Alternate Universe of NeonGenesisEvangelion ]]

The Jenova who was Sephiroth's mommy? That was just an extremely tiny part of it. The meteor? [[ThatsNoMoon That's no meteor]], that's a Jenova planet (and really, do meteors cause tornadoes and fall slowly?). This can also be linked to a previous theory that there are other planets out there consisting primarily of Jenova cells, with Jenova itself being TheVirus who migrated from planet to planet. Also, since planets including those with lifestreams are always bombarded by meteors and still manage to survive (has anyone heard of bacteria?). Also, after all, what would really blow a hole in the collective unconscious that is TheLifestream and allow an opportunity for the creation of a God and an [[NeonGenesisEvangelion Instrumentality]] plot? An ordinary piece of rock, or a horrible thing from Aerith-knows-where?