History WMG / FinalFantasyVII

6th Apr '17 5:46:09 PM Serasia
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* Maybe Sephiroth is Lucifer? Sephiroth is a one-wingedangel--a fallen angel, perhaps? Cloud came back to life, so maybe he's Jesus (or Lazarus). Plus Cloud does the baptizing, taking away the Geostigma, and Jesus is known for healing people.

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* Maybe Sephiroth is Lucifer? Sephiroth is a one-wingedangel--a one-winged angel--a fallen angel, perhaps? Cloud came back to life, so maybe he's Jesus (or Lazarus). Plus Jesus. Plus, Cloud does the baptizing, "baptizing", taking away the Geostigma, and Jesus is known for healing people.
6th Apr '17 5:44:26 PM Serasia
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* Maybe Sephiroth is Lucifer? Sephiroth is a [[onewingedangel]]--a fallen angel, perhaps? Cloud came back to life, so maybe he's [[Jesus]]. Plus Cloud does the baptizing, taking away the Geostigma, and Jesus could heal people.

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* Maybe Sephiroth is Lucifer? Sephiroth is a [[onewingedangel]]--a one-wingedangel--a fallen angel, perhaps? Cloud came back to life, so maybe he's [[Jesus]]. Jesus (or Lazarus). Plus Cloud does the baptizing, taking away the Geostigma, and Jesus could heal is known for healing people.
6th Apr '17 5:43:07 PM Serasia
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* Maybe Sephiroth is Lucifer? Sephiroth is a [[onewingedangel]]--a fallen angel, perhaps? Cloud came back to life, so maybe he's [[Jesus]]. Plus Cloud does the baptizing, taking away the Geostigma, and Jesus could heal people.
26th Mar '17 1:11:35 PM AyaSai
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* Confirmed, as WordOfGod stated in his recent interview that the Remake does not share the direct continuity of the Compilation for the moment.


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** Jossed for the Compilation reference, as WordOfGod confirmed that the Remakes does not share direct continuity of the Compilation for the moment.
21st Feb '17 5:29:42 PM nombretomado
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** Genesis was [[EarlyBirdCameo introducted]] for CrisisCore. But since the Compilation ends at the 20th anniversary by WordOfGod, and there's a SequelHook, this is possible. Good news for the ones who like all the Compilation, bad news for the ones who didn't like it, or only liked CrisisCore. I don't know about Denzel, but it's possible.

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** Genesis was [[EarlyBirdCameo introducted]] introduced]] for CrisisCore.''VideoGame/CrisisCore''. But since the Compilation ends at the 20th anniversary by WordOfGod, and there's a SequelHook, this is possible. Good news for the ones who like all the Compilation, bad news for the ones who didn't like it, or only liked CrisisCore.''Crisis Core''. I don't know about Denzel, but it's possible.
8th Feb '17 6:57:33 PM Deadpoolio
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In the case of Cloud, Sephiroth, and the rest of the First Class SOLDIERs, it can chalked up to being super soldiers but what about everyone else? How is someone as thin as Tifa or someone as heavy set as Barret able to pull off stunts like that? Here's my hypothesis: The Lifestream is the source of all life on The Planet and every being on The Planet has a miniature version of the Lifestream within them which is effectively their soul. Mako is Lifestream that has been condensed into a physical liquid form which is infused into those who would become SOLDIERs, effectively adding more Lifestream into their own and enhancing their abilities. We also know that everyone can use Limit Breaks, not just the player characters, as shown in the Limit Break tutorial where a little girl uses one to pummel her opponent in a sparring match. How does it all tie together? Whenever someone uses a Limit Break, it is literal, they glow as if the Lifestream in their bodies is growing and they grow more powerful, leveling up as it were. SOLDIERs are infused with Mako to artificially boost this process so that they can outrun and outgun any enemy they go up against. By the time of the movie, everyone is more or less level 100 so their Lifestream is at maximum capacity and thus are able to keep up with the likes of Cloud and Sephiroth. Even Reno and Rude have gone through this which explains why they're able to run up walls or survive having a metal highway sign fall on their heads. Or this is all plainly obvious and I'm so dense that I'm only just realizing it.

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In the case of Cloud, Sephiroth, and the rest of the First Class SOLDIERs, it can chalked up to being super soldiers but what about everyone else? How is someone as thin as Tifa or someone as heavy set as Barret able to pull off stunts like that? Here's my hypothesis: The Lifestream is the source of all life on The Planet and every being on The Planet has a miniature version of the Lifestream within them which is effectively their soul. Mako is Lifestream that has been condensed into a physical liquid form which is infused into those who would become SOLDIERs, effectively adding more Lifestream into their own and enhancing their abilities. We also know that everyone can use Limit Breaks, not just the player characters, as shown in the Limit Break tutorial where a little girl uses one to pummel her opponent in a sparring match. How does it all tie together? Whenever someone uses a Limit Break, it is literal, they glow as if the Lifestream in their bodies is growing and they grow more powerful, leveling up as it were. SOLDIERs are infused with Mako to artificially boost this process so that they can outrun and outgun any enemy they go up against. By the time of the movie, everyone is more or less level 100 so their Lifestream is at maximum capacity and thus are able to keep up with the likes of Cloud and Sephiroth. Even Reno and Rude have gone through this which explains why they're able to run up walls or survive having a metal highway sign fall on their heads. Or this is all plainly obvious and I'm so dense that I'm only just now realizing it.
8th Feb '17 6:40:41 PM Deadpoolio
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[[WMG: The Secret Of Limit Breaks And Why Everyone Can Seemingly Defy Gravity.]]
In the case of Cloud, Sephiroth, and the rest of the First Class SOLDIERs, it can chalked up to being super soldiers but what about everyone else? How is someone as thin as Tifa or someone as heavy set as Barret able to pull off stunts like that? Here's my hypothesis: The Lifestream is the source of all life on The Planet and every being on The Planet has a miniature version of the Lifestream within them which is effectively their soul. Mako is Lifestream that has been condensed into a physical liquid form which is infused into those who would become SOLDIERs, effectively adding more Lifestream into their own and enhancing their abilities. We also know that everyone can use Limit Breaks, not just the player characters, as shown in the Limit Break tutorial where a little girl uses one to pummel her opponent in a sparring match. How does it all tie together? Whenever someone uses a Limit Break, it is literal, they glow as if the Lifestream in their bodies is growing and they grow more powerful, leveling up as it were. SOLDIERs are infused with Mako to artificially boost this process so that they can outrun and outgun any enemy they go up against. By the time of the movie, everyone is more or less level 100 so their Lifestream is at maximum capacity and thus are able to keep up with the likes of Cloud and Sephiroth. Even Reno and Rude have gone through this which explains why they're able to run up walls or survive having a metal highway sign fall on their heads. Or this is all plainly obvious and I'm so dense that I'm only just realizing it.
24th Jan '17 2:02:07 AM zacheus
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[[WMG: The Fort Condor invasion force totals a couple of goons with a powerful variation on manipulate materia.]]
This is why you don't see Shinra troops during the Fort Condor minigame, but instead enemies that suspiciously resemble monsters in the Junon area - the wyvern is the formula, barbarian and beast are the two components of Hell Rider V2, and the Commander is (canonically) a Grand Horn. The Shinra soldiers leading the attack are hiding in a nearby forest encampment, and consider it a dead-end posting.

11th Jan '17 4:48:59 AM MoonlightBomber
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* Strong physical resemblance between the galian beast and the average behemoth
* Weaker resemblance between these and Red XIII
* Behemoths are fought on the scaffolds beneath Midgar, and the Northern Cave. It's easy to theorise the Midgar behemoths were produced by Hojo (Crisis Core somewhat confirms this) and the King Behemoths produced by Jenova's virus, given that they're fought at her landing site
* Red was an experiment of Hojo's
* Behemoths show an affinity for Flare attacks, as does the galian beast. Red XIII has a flame burning on his tail
* King Behemoths have an affinity for Comet2 attacks. Red XIII's limit breaks have a cosmic theme, one even being a variation on Comet2

Therefore: Jenova landed 2000 years ago, and encountered Red's species alongside the Cetra. They were infected, and became King Behemoths. Many years later, Hojo experimented on Red's species to produce the standard Behemoths. Meanwhile, he used what he knew to create the galian beast while experimenting on Vincent. If you want to include the Compliation, Azul also fits pretty much all of the above.

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* Strong physical resemblance between the galian beast Galian Beast and the average behemoth
behemoth.
* Weaker resemblance between these and Red XIII
XIII.
* Behemoths are fought on the scaffolds beneath Midgar, and the Northern Cave. It's easy to theorise theorize the Midgar behemoths were produced by Hojo (Crisis Core somewhat confirms this) and the King Behemoths produced by Jenova's virus, given that they're fought at her landing site
site.
* Red was an experiment of Hojo's
Hojo's.
* Behemoths show an affinity for Flare attacks, as does the galian beast. Galian Beast. Red XIII has a flame burning on his tail
tail.
* King Behemoths have an affinity for Comet2 [=Comet2=] attacks. Red XIII's limit breaks have a cosmic theme, one even being a variation on Comet2

[=Comet2=].

Therefore: Jenova landed 2000 years ago, and encountered Red's species alongside the Cetra. They were infected, and became King Behemoths. Many years later, Hojo experimented on Red's species to produce the standard Behemoths. Meanwhile, he used what he knew to create the galian beast Galian Beast while experimenting on Vincent. If you want to include the Compliation, Azul also fits pretty much all of the above.



It's simple levitation. In the AC movie people are shown activly defying gravity with simple jumps, so it's not much of a stretch. The one wing for Jenova Cell recipients doesn't grant flight. Think of it more like a deer's antlers. The wing represents the cells reaching their maturity, to the point where such powers become available.

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It's simple levitation. In the AC movie people are shown activly actively defying gravity with simple jumps, so it's not much of a stretch. The one wing for Jenova Cell recipients doesn't grant flight. Think of it more like a deer's antlers. The wing represents the cells reaching their maturity, to the point where such powers become available.



Major spoilers for Final Fantasy IX,
[[spoiler:The Terrans in FFIX move from star system to star system absorbing the life-stream of younger planets into theirs]].
Jenova is a probe to find suitable planets, and Gaia in FFVII may even be
the Gaia from FFIX thousands of years before the events of FFIX, or some other world the Terrans [spoilered].

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Major spoilers for Final Fantasy IX,
IX: [[spoiler:The Terrans in FFIX move from star system to star system absorbing the life-stream of younger planets into theirs]].
theirs. Jenova is a probe to find suitable planets, and Gaia in FFVII may even be
be the Gaia from FFIX thousands of years before the events of FFIX, or some other world the Terrans [spoilered].
Terransspoilered]].



[[WMG: The Remake will have references, to areas and Characters from Before Crisis Crisis Core and Final Fantasy X ]]

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[[WMG: The Remake will have references, references to areas and Characters characters from Before Crisis Crisis Core ''Before Crisis'', ''Crisis Core'', and Final ''Final Fantasy X ]]
X'']]




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* Jossed. As of mid-January 2017, there is no news of a definite release date.



* Knights of the Round Table will altered to be like a summoned version of omnislash.

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* Knights of the Round Table will altered to be like a summoned version of omnislash.Omnislash.



** Aerith's revival could be implemented in a NewGamePlus, with a major effect on the story -- notably, Aerith would be Cloud's love interest instead of Tifa, similar to how ''Tomoyo After'' is a huge alternate route for ''VisualNovel/{{Clannad}}''.



* There will be references to Final Fantasy X and X-2

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* There will be references to Final Fantasy X and X-2
X-2.
30th Dec '16 11:30:34 AM memememememe
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[[WMG: And now time for some Grimdark: The entire game is a LighterThanSofter version of DeadSpace.]]

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[[WMG: And now time for some Grimdark: The entire game is a LighterThanSofter LighterAndSofter version of DeadSpace.]]
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