History WMG / CrisisOnInfiniteEarths

26th Dec '15 1:06:36 AM jormis29
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* Or the Anti-Monitor in Sinestro Corps War '''was''' the original, and still serves as the personification of the ContinuitySnarl. He worked in conjunction with Superboy-Prime's punching of the Source Wall to cause all the current continuity errors since just before ''ComicBook/InfiniteCrisis'' to the moment became the Black Lantern Power Battery.
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* Or the Anti-Monitor in Sinestro Corps War ''ComicBook/SinestroCorpsWar'' '''was''' the original, and still serves as the personification of the ContinuitySnarl. He worked in conjunction with Superboy-Prime's punching of the Source Wall to cause all the current continuity errors since just before ''ComicBook/InfiniteCrisis'' to the moment became the Black Lantern Power Battery.

The Anti-Monitor and Monitor embody antimatter and matter on a truly multiversal scale. The reason they exist at all is because, when looking at the dawn of time, [[GreenLantern Kro]][[BiggerBad na]] inadvertently recreated some of the initial conditions at its earliest moments(particles and antiparticles). [[TooDumbToLive He was lucky he only got the Crisis.]] The Anti-Monitor and Monitor would've been perfectly fine ruling their respective universes, but they ended up discovering each other's existence. [[UltimateBattleOfUltimateDestiny It was then on to prove who's type of matter would reign supreme]]: positive or negative. Neither side [[EvilVersusEvil was good]]: the battle between the two was us vs them on a cosmic scale. Particles and antiparticles must destroy each other when they collide, with the exception of Alex Luthor Jr. The Anti-Monitor stayed dead after the Crisis because there was only a single positive and negative universe left, and a huge margin of error to screw up and destroy his universe. [[OmnicidalManiac Destroyer he may be]], [[EvenEvilHasStandards but not of the team he's fighting for.]] [[SinestroCorpsWar When the new 52 universe showed up]], the Anti-Monitor was happy to see that the pestering InsignificantBluePlanet had done goofed and [[CosmicKeystone made themselves vital to the 52 multiverse]], meaning that it would be easy picking. [[ComicBook/BrightestDay Kidnapping the Entity]] was an attempt to rebuild the Antimatter Multiverse.
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The Anti-Monitor and Monitor embody antimatter and matter on a truly multiversal scale. The reason they exist at all is because, when looking at the dawn of time, [[GreenLantern Kro]][[BiggerBad na]] inadvertently recreated some of the initial conditions at its earliest moments(particles and antiparticles). [[TooDumbToLive He was lucky he only got the Crisis.]] The Anti-Monitor and Monitor would've been perfectly fine ruling their respective universes, but they ended up discovering each other's existence. [[UltimateBattleOfUltimateDestiny It was then on to prove who's type of matter would reign supreme]]: positive or negative. Neither side [[EvilVersusEvil was good]]: the battle between the two was us vs them on a cosmic scale. Particles and antiparticles must destroy each other when they collide, with the exception of Alex Luthor Jr. The Anti-Monitor stayed dead after the Crisis because there was only a single positive and negative universe left, and a huge margin of error to screw up and destroy his universe. [[OmnicidalManiac Destroyer he may be]], [[EvenEvilHasStandards but not of the team he's fighting for.]] [[SinestroCorpsWar [[ComicBook/SinestroCorpsWar When the new 52 universe showed up]], the Anti-Monitor was happy to see that the pestering InsignificantBluePlanet had done goofed and [[CosmicKeystone made themselves vital to the 52 multiverse]], meaning that it would be easy picking. [[ComicBook/BrightestDay Kidnapping the Entity]] was an attempt to rebuild the Antimatter Multiverse.

Think about it-the Crisis was designed to straighten out the endless continuity of DC Comics. The Anti-Monitor was sick of a confusing reality, so he decided to simplify it-make sure there was only one universe, and that the continuity didn't get snarled(the simplest way to simplify reality would be [[OmnicidalManiac to limit how complex it could get.]] The reason why the Anti-Monitor came back to life in the Sinestro Corps War was because he worried the recent 52 universes would muddle up continuity even more. He would later serve as a power battery to [[ComicBook/BlackestNight Nekron]] not just because he's a PhysicalGod, but because he had information about the continuity. Essentially, the Anti-Monitor is a CosmicEntity that exists to simplify the timeline.
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Think about it-the Crisis was designed to straighten out the endless continuity of DC Comics. The Anti-Monitor was sick of a confusing reality, so he decided to simplify it-make sure there was only one universe, and that the continuity didn't get snarled(the simplest way to simplify reality would be [[OmnicidalManiac to limit how complex it could get.]] The reason why the Anti-Monitor came back to life in the Sinestro Corps War ''ComicBook/SinestroCorpsWar' was because he worried the recent 52 universes would muddle up continuity even more. He would later serve as a power battery to [[ComicBook/BlackestNight Nekron]] not just because he's a PhysicalGod, but because he had information about the continuity. Essentially, the Anti-Monitor is a CosmicEntity that exists to simplify the timeline.
20th Dec '15 1:20:43 AM TitoMosquito
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*** The only time Lex was sent to prison was for public endangerment in ''The Man of Steel'' #4.
16th Oct '15 4:54:42 PM nombretomado
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...just thousands upon thousands, because as noted above, it's impossible to destroy all of an infinite number. This is supported in ''{{Planetary}}'', where Elijah Snow makes a reference to the Crisis as a "partial multiversal collapse" or something to that effect. The destroyed Earths were just an exceptionally large "family" of universes surrounding the multiversal cornerstone of Oa/Qward on Earth-1 and the Anti-Matter Universe, and other Earths (such as Wildstorm) were just too distant for the Anti-Monitor to detect. Alexander Luthor did not in fact recreate 51 other Earths, but only 50 -- the reconstitution of the multiple Earths facilitated a connection to the Wildstorm Universe, which unbeknownst to either world's denizens now acts as a bridge between the 52 and the wider multiverse.
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...just thousands upon thousands, because as noted above, it's impossible to destroy all of an infinite number. This is supported in ''{{Planetary}}'', ''ComicBook/{{Planetary}}'', where Elijah Snow makes a reference to the Crisis as a "partial multiversal collapse" or something to that effect. The destroyed Earths were just an exceptionally large "family" of universes surrounding the multiversal cornerstone of Oa/Qward on Earth-1 and the Anti-Matter Universe, and other Earths (such as Wildstorm) were just too distant for the Anti-Monitor to detect. Alexander Luthor did not in fact recreate 51 other Earths, but only 50 -- the reconstitution of the multiple Earths facilitated a connection to the Wildstorm Universe, which unbeknownst to either world's denizens now acts as a bridge between the 52 and the wider multiverse.
8th Oct '15 5:20:41 PM nombretomado
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The Antimoniter claimed to have destroyed the multiverse but since it was made up from an infinite number of Earths that would be functionally impossible to destroy a infinite number of anything. What really occured was that he destroyed trillions of worlds but simply seperated and sealed most worlds off from each other. In this process some beings were removed from their original worlds and placed into new ones often with no memory of their true home, this happened to the JusticeSocietyOfAmerica who were stranded on New Earth away from their original Earth-1 and to most of the Final Fantasy characters as their worlds were among those lost in the Crisis.
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The Antimoniter claimed to have destroyed the multiverse but since it was made up from an infinite number of Earths that would be functionally impossible to destroy a infinite number of anything. What really occured was that he destroyed trillions of worlds but simply seperated and sealed most worlds off from each other. In this process some beings were removed from their original worlds and placed into new ones often with no memory of their true home, this happened to the JusticeSocietyOfAmerica ComicBook/JusticeSocietyOfAmerica who were stranded on New Earth away from their original Earth-1 and to most of the Final Fantasy characters as their worlds were among those lost in the Crisis.
15th Sep '15 8:52:58 PM nombretomado
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In the first Crisis, the Earth-1 Superman is clearly the pre-Crisis Superman, and at the end it's stated he'll continue to be the main Superman. However, the Main/PostCrisis DCU has its own Superman, introduced in ''Man of Steel'' and well-known for being nowhere as powerful. In fact, a lot changed after the Crisis, so much so that it's obvious the Earth presented at the end ''isn't the post-Crisis DCU at all''. ''Crisis'' was told from the perspective of that Earth, and after the Crisis was resolved that Earth... Main/{{Hypertime}}'d away or something. ''Comicbook/WhateverHappenedToTheManOfTomorrow'' takes place in this continuity.
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In the first Crisis, the Earth-1 Superman is clearly the pre-Crisis Superman, and at the end it's stated he'll continue to be the main Superman. However, the Main/PostCrisis ComicBook/PostCrisis DCU has its own Superman, introduced in ''Man of Steel'' and well-known for being nowhere as powerful. In fact, a lot changed after the Crisis, so much so that it's obvious the Earth presented at the end ''isn't the post-Crisis DCU at all''. ''Crisis'' was told from the perspective of that Earth, and after the Crisis was resolved that Earth... Main/{{Hypertime}}'d away or something. ''Comicbook/WhateverHappenedToTheManOfTomorrow'' takes place in this continuity.

** Wait, the Earth of the post-Crisis DCU, up until InfiniteCrisis, is secretly Earth-S?
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** Wait, the Earth of the post-Crisis DCU, up until InfiniteCrisis, ComicBook/InfiniteCrisis, is secretly Earth-S?

* Or the Anti-Monitor in Sinestro Corps War '''was''' the original, and still serves as the personification of the ContinuitySnarl. He worked in conjunction with Superboy-Prime's punching of the Source Wall to cause all the current continuity errors since just before ''Main/InfiniteCrisis'' to the moment became the Black Lantern Power Battery.
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* Or the Anti-Monitor in Sinestro Corps War '''was''' the original, and still serves as the personification of the ContinuitySnarl. He worked in conjunction with Superboy-Prime's punching of the Source Wall to cause all the current continuity errors since just before ''Main/InfiniteCrisis'' ''ComicBook/InfiniteCrisis'' to the moment became the Black Lantern Power Battery.

Due to his concern of the possibility of the Heartless reforming the Antimoniter and the potential dangers of the Nobodies and Unversed the moniter created the Access force as seen in ComicBook/MarvelVsDC and the Amalgalm universe. This did not go as planned as he was diverted from his purpose of watching over the Heartless and Nobodies by the interfereance of Dr. Strangefate from the Amalgalm Universe. So when that minor crisis was adverted he stripped Access of his power and reforged the power into the Keyblades and Gummivessels which he gifted upon the Land of Departure, a world of his own creation where he deposited those with worthy hearts who had lost worlds but survived the Crisis. This is where the series begins.
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Due to his concern of the possibility of the Heartless reforming the Antimoniter and the potential dangers of the Nobodies and Unversed the moniter created the Access force as seen in ComicBook/MarvelVsDC and the Amalgalm universe. This did not go as planned as he was diverted from his purpose of watching over the Heartless and Nobodies by the interfereance interference of Dr. Strangefate from the Amalgalm Universe. So when that minor crisis was adverted he stripped Access of his power and reforged the power into the Keyblades and Gummivessels which he gifted upon the Land of Departure, a world of his own creation where he deposited those with worthy hearts who had lost worlds but survived the Crisis. This is where the series begins.

Let's see...he doesn't just [[OmnicidalManiac try to destroy reality,]] but is [[PlanetEater absorbing its remains.]] He's an EldritchAbomination who's come back to life, only needing a shell to contain his essence. He's even described as a "universe-eater." This is why the Anti-Monitor does what he does-more or less, he just wants to consume TheMultiverse, and feel full afterwards. Being a MultiversalConqueror is just a bonus for the guy. This way of eating may be something that all Monitors share, [[FinalCrisis considering that they tried to eat Earths 0-51 as well.]]
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Let's see...he doesn't just [[OmnicidalManiac try to destroy reality,]] but is [[PlanetEater absorbing its remains.]] He's an EldritchAbomination who's come back to life, only needing a shell to contain his essence. He's even described as a "universe-eater." This is why the Anti-Monitor does what he does-more or less, he just wants to consume TheMultiverse, and feel full afterwards. Being a MultiversalConqueror is just a bonus for the guy. This way of eating may be something that all Monitors share, [[FinalCrisis [[ComicBook/FinalCrisis considering that they tried to eat Earths 0-51 as well.]]

[[WMG: It goes beyond that-CrisisOnInfiniteEarths represents baryogenesis.]]
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[[WMG: It goes beyond that-CrisisOnInfiniteEarths that-ComicBook/CrisisOnInfiniteEarths represents baryogenesis.]]
12th Sep '15 12:27:36 PM nombretomado
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The Anti-Monitor and Monitor embody antimatter and matter on a truly multiversal scale. The reason they exist at all is because, when looking at the dawn of time, [[GreenLantern Kro]][[BiggerBad na]] inadvertently recreated some of the initial conditions at its earliest moments(particles and antiparticles). [[TooDumbToLive He was lucky he only got the Crisis.]] The Anti-Monitor and Monitor would've been perfectly fine ruling their respective universes, but they ended up discovering each other's existence. [[UltimateBattleOfUltimateDestiny It was then on to prove who's type of matter would reign supreme]]: positive or negative. Neither side [[EvilVersusEvil was good]]: the battle between the two was us vs them on a cosmic scale. Particles and antiparticles must destroy each other when they collide, with the exception of Alex Luthor Jr. The Anti-Monitor stayed dead after the Crisis because there was only a single positive and negative universe left, and a huge margin of error to screw up and destroy his universe. [[OmnicidalManiac Destroyer he may be]], [[EvenEvilHasStandards but not of the team he's fighting for.]] [[SinestroCorpsWar When the new 52 universe showed up]], the Anti-Monitor was happy to see that the pestering InsignificantBluePlanet had done goofed and [[CosmicKeystone made themselves vital to the 52 multiverse]], meaning that it would be easy picking. [[BrightestDay Kidnapping the Entity]] was an attempt to rebuild the Antimatter Multiverse.
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The Anti-Monitor and Monitor embody antimatter and matter on a truly multiversal scale. The reason they exist at all is because, when looking at the dawn of time, [[GreenLantern Kro]][[BiggerBad na]] inadvertently recreated some of the initial conditions at its earliest moments(particles and antiparticles). [[TooDumbToLive He was lucky he only got the Crisis.]] The Anti-Monitor and Monitor would've been perfectly fine ruling their respective universes, but they ended up discovering each other's existence. [[UltimateBattleOfUltimateDestiny It was then on to prove who's type of matter would reign supreme]]: positive or negative. Neither side [[EvilVersusEvil was good]]: the battle between the two was us vs them on a cosmic scale. Particles and antiparticles must destroy each other when they collide, with the exception of Alex Luthor Jr. The Anti-Monitor stayed dead after the Crisis because there was only a single positive and negative universe left, and a huge margin of error to screw up and destroy his universe. [[OmnicidalManiac Destroyer he may be]], [[EvenEvilHasStandards but not of the team he's fighting for.]] [[SinestroCorpsWar When the new 52 universe showed up]], the Anti-Monitor was happy to see that the pestering InsignificantBluePlanet had done goofed and [[CosmicKeystone made themselves vital to the 52 multiverse]], meaning that it would be easy picking. [[BrightestDay [[ComicBook/BrightestDay Kidnapping the Entity]] was an attempt to rebuild the Antimatter Multiverse.
11th Sep '15 4:24:27 PM nombretomado
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And the Black Lanterns are...actually, they're the same as the ones in TheDCU. When [[BlackestNight Zombie Alex Jr]] brought Prime's victims to our universe, he sent a bunch of black rings so that, [[DangerouslyGenreSavvy if Nekron is defeated, the Black Lanterns can make a comeback here.]] As for why it hasn't happened, the rings are still weak from being cut off from fiction-land. Until [[FridgeHorror you get a hold of a "toy ring."]] [[UnwittingPawn It's keeping an eye on you]], and wait until you die/it finds a source of significant power. [[ZombieApocalypse And then...]]
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And the Black Lanterns are...actually, they're the same as the ones in TheDCU. When [[BlackestNight [[ComicBook/BlackestNight Zombie Alex Jr]] brought Prime's victims to our universe, he sent a bunch of black rings so that, [[DangerouslyGenreSavvy if Nekron is defeated, the Black Lanterns can make a comeback here.]] As for why it hasn't happened, the rings are still weak from being cut off from fiction-land. Until [[FridgeHorror you get a hold of a "toy ring."]] [[UnwittingPawn It's keeping an eye on you]], and wait until you die/it finds a source of significant power. [[ZombieApocalypse And then...]]

Think about it-the Crisis was designed to straighten out the endless continuity of DC Comics. The Anti-Monitor was sick of a confusing reality, so he decided to simplify it-make sure there was only one universe, and that the continuity didn't get snarled(the simplest way to simplify reality would be [[OmnicidalManiac to limit how complex it could get.]] The reason why the Anti-Monitor came back to life in the Sinestro Corps War was because he worried the recent 52 universes would muddle up continuity even more. He would later serve as a power battery to [[BlackestNight Nekron]] not just because he's a PhysicalGod, but because he had information about the continuity. Essentially, the Anti-Monitor is a CosmicEntity that exists to simplify the timeline.
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Think about it-the Crisis was designed to straighten out the endless continuity of DC Comics. The Anti-Monitor was sick of a confusing reality, so he decided to simplify it-make sure there was only one universe, and that the continuity didn't get snarled(the simplest way to simplify reality would be [[OmnicidalManiac to limit how complex it could get.]] The reason why the Anti-Monitor came back to life in the Sinestro Corps War was because he worried the recent 52 universes would muddle up continuity even more. He would later serve as a power battery to [[BlackestNight [[ComicBook/BlackestNight Nekron]] not just because he's a PhysicalGod, but because he had information about the continuity. Essentially, the Anti-Monitor is a CosmicEntity that exists to simplify the timeline.
11th Sep '15 4:23:19 PM nombretomado
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Earth Prime is supposed to be the real world. So obviously no one on Earth Prime has powers. But when their in Another Universe AKA the Fictional World, thats when theirs powers manifest. These fictional places in DC, or marvel, or any kind of comic book, were born out of the Comic creators minds and take shape within their books, creating a pocket dimension, that has no effect here. Only when they bring up Earth Prime in the comics is when we actually get involved. Like Superboy-Prime probably wasn't born on Krypton, which would explain why there's no kryptonite on Earth, No Darkseid in space or any trace of Zod or other Kryptonians. He may have just been abandoned by his real parents, who just happened to be exactly like Jor-El and Lara and were aptly named Jordan and Laura. Also the comet that Superboy claims gave him his powers was nothing more than coincidence, it was the fact that the fictional Superman had came into his world that gave him powers. Which would also explain why, only when Alex gave him back his armor in BlackestNight, is when his abilities came back. Because the writers had unknowingly brought fictional elements into the real world, thus giving Prime his powers back. But what i'm alluding to is that maybe on Earth-Prime (here) there are others like Clark, like a guy named [[TheFlash Barry Allen]], a track star, the self proclaimed "fastest man alive" who claims to zoom past like red and yellow lightning, then there's [[SuperGirl Karen Kent]], who's Clark's cousin and a cheerleader who admires Supergirl/Powergirl. Next [[Franchise/{{Batman}} Bruce Wayne]], an angsty orphan with quite the will left by his parents. [[GreenLantern Harold Jordan]], a high school senior whose most precious possession is his Emerald class ring and wants to sign up for the air force. Then [[WonderWoman Diana Prince]], a bombshell feminist that was homeschooled in an all female community. Finally, you have [[Comicbook/TeenTitans Victor Stone]] A man with a bunch of prosthetics, but they're so high end, everyone calls him Cyborg.
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Earth Prime is supposed to be the real world. So obviously no one on Earth Prime has powers. But when their in Another Universe AKA the Fictional World, thats when theirs powers manifest. These fictional places in DC, or marvel, or any kind of comic book, were born out of the Comic creators minds and take shape within their books, creating a pocket dimension, that has no effect here. Only when they bring up Earth Prime in the comics is when we actually get involved. Like Superboy-Prime probably wasn't born on Krypton, which would explain why there's no kryptonite on Earth, No Darkseid in space or any trace of Zod or other Kryptonians. He may have just been abandoned by his real parents, who just happened to be exactly like Jor-El and Lara and were aptly named Jordan and Laura. Also the comet that Superboy claims gave him his powers was nothing more than coincidence, it was the fact that the fictional Superman had came into his world that gave him powers. Which would also explain why, only when Alex gave him back his armor in BlackestNight, ComicBook/BlackestNight, is when his abilities came back. Because the writers had unknowingly brought fictional elements into the real world, thus giving Prime his powers back. But what i'm alluding to is that maybe on Earth-Prime (here) there are others like Clark, like a guy named [[TheFlash [[ComicBook/TheFlash Barry Allen]], a track star, the self proclaimed "fastest man alive" who claims to zoom past like red and yellow lightning, then there's [[SuperGirl [[ComicBook/SuperGirl Karen Kent]], who's Clark's cousin and a cheerleader who admires Supergirl/Powergirl. Next [[Franchise/{{Batman}} Bruce Wayne]], an angsty orphan with quite the will left by his parents. [[GreenLantern Harold Jordan]], a high school senior whose most precious possession is his Emerald class ring and wants to sign up for the air force. Then [[WonderWoman Diana Prince]], a bombshell feminist that was homeschooled in an all female community. Finally, you have [[Comicbook/TeenTitans Victor Stone]] A man with a bunch of prosthetics, but they're so high end, everyone calls him Cyborg.
10th Aug '15 1:03:03 PM nombretomado
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And they all have similarities to the heroes and villains we love. Given there are about 7 billion people, they're bound to exist somewhere on our world. Including the above, we have [[ComicBook/{{Aquaman}} Arthur Curry]] (a member of the school swimming program) and his girlfriend Mary. Richard Grayson is Bruce's younger, adoptive brother. The Teen Titans are [[Comicbook/TeenTitans Victor Stone's]] former classmates at college. AdamStrange is actually an astronaut who died during his mission(his TheDCU counterpart survived because the Rannians exist.) [[ComicBook/MartianManhunter John Jones]] exists, but is a standard detective, albeit one who's into the psychic craze.
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And they all have similarities to the heroes and villains we love. Given there are about 7 billion people, they're bound to exist somewhere on our world. Including the above, we have [[ComicBook/{{Aquaman}} Arthur Curry]] (a member of the school swimming program) and his girlfriend Mary. Richard Grayson is Bruce's younger, adoptive brother. The Teen Titans are [[Comicbook/TeenTitans Victor Stone's]] former classmates at college. AdamStrange ComicBook/AdamStrange is actually an astronaut who died during his mission(his TheDCU counterpart survived because the Rannians exist.) [[ComicBook/MartianManhunter John Jones]] exists, but is a standard detective, albeit one who's into the psychic craze.
19th Jul '15 9:06:14 AM nombretomado
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* The Zombie Sentry from ''MarvelZombies'' actually ''was'' Comicbook/{{Superman}} (traveling into the afterlife is a trick he pulls off in DC One Million), from one of the 52. He broke through the barriers of reality and attacked [[Franchise/EvilDead Ash Williams]] in heaven, and then you know where it goes from there.
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* The Zombie Sentry from ''MarvelZombies'' ''ComicBook/MarvelZombies'' actually ''was'' Comicbook/{{Superman}} (traveling into the afterlife is a trick he pulls off in DC One Million), from one of the 52. He broke through the barriers of reality and attacked [[Franchise/EvilDead Ash Williams]] in heaven, and then you know where it goes from there.
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