History WMG / CrisisOnInfiniteEarths

** Actually when put into context, it makes more sense: ([[UsefulNotes/TheSilverAgeOfComicBooks Silver Age]]) Super(boy-Prime) can beat both ([[UsefulNotes/TheGoldenAgeOfComicBooks Golden Age]]) Superman and ([[UsefulNotes/TheModernAgeOfComicBooks Modern Age]]) Superman. While the G.A. Supes is really strong (post-PowerCreepPowerSeep) and M.A. Supes is... well, Modern Age Supes strong, Prime maintains Silver Age power levels where he can literally move planets with his bare hands, has ''almost'' no weaknesses and a very black-and-white morality view. The only reason he was beaten in Infinite Crisis was that the two Supermen destroyed his armor and exposed him to red sun radiation.

During the final issues of ''X-Man'', the writer began to refer to the Marvel Universe as "611" because numerous other universes, including ones "higher up" had been destroyed by a godlike being. Yet the 616 designation was swiftly returned. Possibly, the total reboot of various heroes and organizations after the initial ''Crisis'' and the events of ''Zero Hour'' helped disrupt and stunt the sliding timescale of the DCU. Once the [[spoiler:Multiverse returned]] in ''Infinite Crisis'', however, the DCU made up for lost time: Luthor temporarily combines Earths 154 and 462 and catches a distorted glimpse of the ''Comicbook/CivilWar''.

[[WMG: The entire span of events between ''Crisis on Infinite Earths'' and the return of the Multiverse in ''Infinite Crisis'' took place over an extraordinarily short period of time in the Main/MarvelUniverse.]]

There are villain counterparts. ComicBook/LexLuthor is a rival Jerkass nerd who bullied Superboy-Prime, Thadeus Sinestro is a police lieutenant or chief that's hard on Hal and Brainiac is an misanthropic librarian. Black Manta is Arthur's rival in the program and Mary's former BastardBoyfriend, of whom she is with child. Slade Wilson ''is'' secretly an assassin, not as skilled and well equipped as in the comics though, with his public identity looking after his darling Rose. ComicBook/TheJoker is a clown [[MonsterClown that scared the hell out of Bruce when he was a kid.]] As for the various Lantern Corps: The Sinestro Corps are Sinestro's cop pals whom are very extreme in their duties, the Green Lantern Corps the US Airforce and other hopefuls that want to enlist too, the Blue Lanterns are a church that Hal's apprehensive to go to, the Indigo Tribe are a group/cult of junkies that rely on drugs to be compassionate, the Star Sapphires are a gang of "enlightened" hookers, the Red Lanterns are a group of vigilantes and are thus always clashing with Sinestro's guys, and Larfleeze is one of those {{Corrupt Corporate Executive}}s devastating the country with his 'corps' being his many, ''many'' , "business partners" that he stepped on to get on top,

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But what i'm alluding to is that maybe on Earth-Prime (here) there are others like Clark, like a guy named [[ComicBook/TheFlash Barry Allen]], a track star, the self proclaimed "fastest man alive" who claims to zoom past like red and yellow lightning, then there's [[ComicBook/SuperGirl Karen Kent]], who's Clark's cousin and a cheerleader who admires Supergirl/Powergirl. Next [[Franchise/{{Batman}} Bruce Wayne]], an angsty orphan with quite the will left by his parents. [[ComicBook/GreenLantern Harold Jordan]], a high school senior whose most precious possession is his Emerald class ring and wants to sign up for the air force. Then [[WonderWoman Diana Prince]], a bombshell feminist that was homeschooled in an all female community. Finally, you have [[Comicbook/TeenTitans Victor Stone]] A man with a bunch of prosthetics, but they're so high end, everyone calls him Cyborg.

The DCU, the Franchise/MarvelUniverse, Franchise/DisneyAnimatedCanon, Creator/{{Pixar}}'s films and the various Franchise/FinalFantasy worlds were all originally part of the same set of infinite earths that made up the multiverse before it was destroyed by the Anti-Moniter. We know this since we have seen that Marvel and DC universes are able to crossover occasionally, the minor {{Mythology Gag}}s in the Pixar movies, Disney owning Marvel and Disney/ThePrincessAndTheFrog showing a combined cosmology as that of the Disney/TheLionKing indicating a form of shared verses.

The Anti-Monitor and Monitor embody antimatter and matter on a truly multiversal scale. The reason they exist at all is because, when looking at the dawn of time, [[ComicBook/GreenLantern Kro]][[BiggerBad na]] inadvertently recreated some of the initial conditions at its earliest moments(particles and antiparticles). [[TooDumbToLive He was lucky he only got the Crisis.]] The Anti-Monitor and Monitor would've been perfectly fine ruling their respective universes, but they ended up discovering each other's existence. [[UltimateShowdownOfUltimateDestiny It was then on to prove who's type of matter would reign supreme]]: positive or negative. Neither side [[EvilVersusEvil was good]]: the battle between the two was us vs them on a cosmic scale. Particles and antiparticles must destroy each other when they collide, with the exception of Alex Luthor Jr. The Anti-Monitor stayed dead after the Crisis because there was only a single positive and negative universe left, and a huge margin of error to screw up and destroy his universe. [[OmnicidalManiac Destroyer he may be]], [[EvenEvilHasStandards but not of the team he's fighting for.]] [[ComicBook/SinestroCorpsWar When the new 52 universe showed up]], the Anti-Monitor was happy to see that the pestering InsignificantBluePlanet had done goofed and [[CosmicKeystone made themselves vital to the 52 multiverse]], meaning that it would be easy picking. [[ComicBook/BrightestDay Kidnapping the Entity]] was an attempt to rebuild the Antimatter Multiverse.

Basically, he became the anthropormorphic personification of the ContinuitySnarl. The one we saw in ''Main/GreenLantern'' was Krona.

But what i'm alluding to is that maybe on Earth-Prime (here) there are others like Clark, like a guy named [[ComicBook/TheFlash Barry Allen]], a track star, the self proclaimed "fastest man alive" who claims to zoom past like red and yellow lightning, then there's [[ComicBook/SuperGirl Karen Kent]], who's Clark's cousin and a cheerleader who admires Supergirl/Powergirl. Next [[Franchise/{{Batman}} Bruce Wayne]], an angsty orphan with quite the will left by his parents. [[GreenLantern Harold Jordan]], a high school senior whose most precious possession is his Emerald class ring and wants to sign up for the air force. Then [[WonderWoman Diana Prince]], a bombshell feminist that was homeschooled in an all female community. Finally, you have [[Comicbook/TeenTitans Victor Stone]] A man with a bunch of prosthetics, but they're so high end, everyone calls him Cyborg.

The Anti-Monitor and Monitor embody antimatter and matter on a truly multiversal scale. The reason they exist at all is because, when looking at the dawn of time, [[GreenLantern Kro]][[BiggerBad na]] inadvertently recreated some of the initial conditions at its earliest moments(particles and antiparticles). [[TooDumbToLive He was lucky he only got the Crisis.]] The Anti-Monitor and Monitor would've been perfectly fine ruling their respective universes, but they ended up discovering each other's existence. [[UltimateShowdownOfUltimateDestiny It was then on to prove who's type of matter would reign supreme]]: positive or negative. Neither side [[EvilVersusEvil was good]]: the battle between the two was us vs them on a cosmic scale. Particles and antiparticles must destroy each other when they collide, with the exception of Alex Luthor Jr. The Anti-Monitor stayed dead after the Crisis because there was only a single positive and negative universe left, and a huge margin of error to screw up and destroy his universe. [[OmnicidalManiac Destroyer he may be]], [[EvenEvilHasStandards but not of the team he's fighting for.]] [[ComicBook/SinestroCorpsWar When the new 52 universe showed up]], the Anti-Monitor was happy to see that the pestering InsignificantBluePlanet had done goofed and [[CosmicKeystone made themselves vital to the 52 multiverse]], meaning that it would be easy picking. [[ComicBook/BrightestDay Kidnapping the Entity]] was an attempt to rebuild the Antimatter Multiverse.

* The OP is right, though he/she seems to forget that Superman's introduction in ''Man of Steel'' took place before CoIE in the timeline, though yes, he was less powerful and there was no Supergirl.

Due to his concern of the possibility of the Heartless reforming the Antimoniter and the potential dangers of the Nobodies and Unversed the moniter created the Access force as seen in ComicBook/MarvelVsDC and the Amalgalm universe. This did not go as planned as he was diverted from his purpose of watching over the Heartless and Nobodies by the interference of Dr. Strangefate from the Amalgalm Universe. So when that minor crisis was adverted he stripped Access of his power and reforged the power into the Keyblades and Gummivessels which he gifted upon the Land of Departure, a world of his own creation where he deposited those with worthy hearts who had lost worlds but survived the Crisis. This is where the series begins.

* ''Comicbook/{{Justice}}'' takes place in this Earth. The [[{{Shazam}} Marvel Family]] apparently have always lived on this Earth, and debuted during the early years of the superheroes. As shown in ''History of the DC Universe'' #2.

There are villain counterparts. ComicBook/LexLuthor is a rival Jerkass nerd who bullied Superboy-Prime, Thadeus Sinestro is a police lieutenant or chief that's hard on Hal and Brainiac is an misanthropic librarian. Black Manta is Arthur's rival in the program and Mary's former BastardBoyfriend, of whom she is with child. Slade Wilson ''is'' secretly an assassin, not as skilled and well equipped as in the comics though, with his public identity looking after his darling Rose. ComicBook/TheJoker is a clown [[MonsterClown that scared the hell out of Bruce when he was a kid.]] As for the various Lantern Corps: The Sinestro Corps are Sinestro's cop pals whom are very extreme in their duties, the Green Lantern Corps the US Airforce and other hopefuls that want to enlist too, the Blue Lanterns are a church that Hal's apprehensive to go to, the Indigo Tribe are a group/cult of junkies that rely on drugs to be compassionate, the Star Sapphires are a gang of "enlightened" hookers, the Red Lanterns are a group of vigilantes and are thus always clashing with Sinestro's guys, and Larfleeze is one of those CorruptCorporateExecutives devastating the country with his 'corps' being his many, ''many'' , "business partners" that he stepped on to get on top,

The Anti-Monitor and Monitor embody antimatter and matter on a truly multiversal scale. The reason they exist at all is because, when looking at the dawn of time, [[GreenLantern Kro]][[BiggerBad na]] inadvertently recreated some of the initial conditions at its earliest moments(particles and antiparticles). [[TooDumbToLive He was lucky he only got the Crisis.]] The Anti-Monitor and Monitor would've been perfectly fine ruling their respective universes, but they ended up discovering each other's existence. [[UltimateBattleOfUltimateDestiny It was then on to prove who's type of matter would reign supreme]]: positive or negative. Neither side [[EvilVersusEvil was good]]: the battle between the two was us vs them on a cosmic scale. Particles and antiparticles must destroy each other when they collide, with the exception of Alex Luthor Jr. The Anti-Monitor stayed dead after the Crisis because there was only a single positive and negative universe left, and a huge margin of error to screw up and destroy his universe. [[OmnicidalManiac Destroyer he may be]], [[EvenEvilHasStandards but not of the team he's fighting for.]] [[ComicBook/SinestroCorpsWar When the new 52 universe showed up]], the Anti-Monitor was happy to see that the pestering InsignificantBluePlanet had done goofed and [[CosmicKeystone made themselves vital to the 52 multiverse]], meaning that it would be easy picking. [[ComicBook/BrightestDay Kidnapping the Entity]] was an attempt to rebuild the Antimatter Multiverse.

* [[Main/TheFlash Barry Allen's]] brief appearance in ''Quasar'' was due to his [[Main/HeroicSacrifice final race]] in the original ''Crisis'' sending him through the Multiverse. Eventually, he found his way back to the Infinite Earths to finish his job.

There's no logical reason the Anti-Matter wave would affect him like that. Pariah wasn't affected, nor was anyone else present for the death of a universe. The true moment of mutation was when he broke out of his universe, attempting to reach Earth-1, thus exposing him to [[Main/{{Wildstorm}} The Bleed]], which is known to have bizarre effects on those exposed to it.

There are villain counterparts. ComicBook/LexLuthor is a rival Jerkass nerd who bullied Superboy-Prime, Thadeus Sinestro is a police lieutenant or chief that's hard on Hal and Brainiac is an misanthropic librarian. Black Manta is Arthur's rival in the program and Mary's former BastardBoyfriend, of whom she is with child. Slade Wilson ''is'' secretly an assassin, not as skilled and well equipped as in the comics though, with his public identity looking after his darling Rose. SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker is a clown [[MonsterClown that scared the hell out of Bruce when he was a kid.]] As for the various Lantern Corps: The Sinestro Corps are Sinestro's cop pals whom are very extreme in their duties, the Green Lantern Corps the US Airforce and other hopefuls that want to enlist too, the Blue Lanterns are a church that Hal's apprehensive to go to, the Indigo Tribe are a group/cult of junkies that rely on drugs to be compassionate, the Star Sapphires are a gang of "enlightened" hookers, the Red Lanterns are a group of vigilantes and are thus always clashing with Sinestro's guys, and Larfleeze is one of those CorruptCorporateExecutives devastating the country with his 'corps' being his many, ''many'' , "business partners" that he stepped on to get on top,

The DCU, the MarvelUniverse, Franchise/DisneyAnimatedCanon, {{Pixar}}'s films and the various Franchise/FinalFantasy worlds were all originally part of the same set of infinite earths that made up the multiverse before it was destroyed by the Anti-Moniter. We know this since we have seen that Marvel and DC universes are able to crossover occasionally, the minor {{Mythology Gag}}s in the Pixar movies, Disney owning Marvel and Disney/ThePrincessAndTheFrog showing a combined cosmology as that of the Disney/TheLionKing indicating a form of shared verses.

The DCU, the MarvelUniverse, Franchise/DisneyAnimatedCanon, {{Pixar}}'s films and the various Franchise/FinalFantasy worlds were all originally part of the same set of infinite earths that made up the multiverse before it was destroyed by the Anti-Moniter. We know this since we have seen that Marvel and DC universes are able to crossover occasionally, the minor {{Mythology Gag}}s in the Pixar movies, Disney owning Marvel and PrincessAndTheFrog showing a combined cosmology as that of the Disney/TheLionKing indicating a form of shared verses.

*** No, I meant that the pre-Crisis Marvel Family characters were still canon before they were reintroduced in the ''Shazam! The New Beginning'' mini-series and ''The Power of Shazam'' graphic novel.

*** The only time Lex was sent to prison was for public endangerment in ''The Man of Steel'' #4.

** No, these were other alternate versions of the originals. Mr. Mind didn't "eat parts" of these universes, just cycled through several alternates including some that looked "partially eaten". The ones we ended up with were the last ones Mind jumped into before skipping to another section of the continuum entirely, and these wound up gettng slotted into the 52 "empty" spots connected directly to TheDCU; but all the other worlds are still out there isolated from the current DCU, including all the Elseworlds.

* This proves that the DC and Marvel multiverses are actually one-and-the-same, and that it's only the barriers in the WMG above that shield [[Main/AlternateUniverse the worlds connected to]] Main/TheDCU from the Marvel multiverse proper.

Aside from the obvious multiple worlds theme, just ''tell'' me [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Monitor this]] is not a superpowerful example of [[http://kingdomhearts.wikia.com/wiki/Unnamed_Unbirths these]]. They even fire energy bolts. This offers a link between Disney, ''Franchise/FinalFantasy'', and Main/TheDCU (and the Main/MarvelUniverse, if the above guesses are correct).

And they all have similarities to the heroes and villains we love. Given there are about 7 billion people, they're bound to exist somewhere on our world. Including the above, we have [[ComicBook/{{Aquaman}} Arthur Curry]] (a member of the school swimming program) and his girlfriend Mary. Richard Grayson is Bruce's younger, adoptive brother. The Teen Titans are [[Comicbook/TeenTitans Victor Stone's]] former classmates at college. ComicBook/AdamStrange is actually an astronaut who died during his mission(his TheDCU counterpart survived because the Rannians exist.) [[ComicBook/MartianManhunter John Jones]] exists, but is a standard detective, albeit one who's into the psychic craze.

And the Black Lanterns are...actually, they're the same as the ones in TheDCU. When [[ComicBook/BlackestNight Zombie Alex Jr]] brought Prime's victims to our universe, he sent a bunch of black rings so that, if Nekron is defeated, the Black Lanterns can make a comeback here. As for why it hasn't happened, the rings are still weak from being cut off from fiction-land. Until [[FridgeHorror you get a hold of a "toy ring."]] [[UnwittingPawn It's keeping an eye on you]], and wait until you die/it finds a source of significant power. [[ZombieApocalypse And then...]]

And the Black Lanterns are...actually, they're the same as the ones in TheDCU. When [[ComicBook/BlackestNight Zombie Alex Jr]] brought Prime's victims to our universe, he sent a bunch of black rings so that, [[DangerouslyGenreSavvy if Nekron is defeated, the Black Lanterns can make a comeback here.]] As for why it hasn't happened, the rings are still weak from being cut off from fiction-land. Until [[FridgeHorror you get a hold of a "toy ring."]] [[UnwittingPawn It's keeping an eye on you]], and wait until you die/it finds a source of significant power. [[ZombieApocalypse And then...]]

ChuckNorris roundhouse-kicked Creator/MrT at the exact moment that Creator/MrT punched ChuckNorris. The impact caused a chain reaction that awoke the Anti-Monitor and set the Crisis in motion.

* Or the Anti-Monitor in Sinestro Corps War '''was''' the original, and still serves as the personification of the ContinuitySnarl. He worked in conjunction with Superboy-Prime's punching of the Source Wall to cause all the current continuity errors since just before ''ComicBook/InfiniteCrisis'' to the moment became the Black Lantern Power Battery.

The Anti-Monitor and Monitor embody antimatter and matter on a truly multiversal scale. The reason they exist at all is because, when looking at the dawn of time, [[GreenLantern Kro]][[BiggerBad na]] inadvertently recreated some of the initial conditions at its earliest moments(particles and antiparticles). [[TooDumbToLive He was lucky he only got the Crisis.]] The Anti-Monitor and Monitor would've been perfectly fine ruling their respective universes, but they ended up discovering each other's existence. [[UltimateBattleOfUltimateDestiny It was then on to prove who's type of matter would reign supreme]]: positive or negative. Neither side [[EvilVersusEvil was good]]: the battle between the two was us vs them on a cosmic scale. Particles and antiparticles must destroy each other when they collide, with the exception of Alex Luthor Jr. The Anti-Monitor stayed dead after the Crisis because there was only a single positive and negative universe left, and a huge margin of error to screw up and destroy his universe. [[OmnicidalManiac Destroyer he may be]], [[EvenEvilHasStandards but not of the team he's fighting for.]] [[SinestroCorpsWar When the new 52 universe showed up]], the Anti-Monitor was happy to see that the pestering InsignificantBluePlanet had done goofed and [[CosmicKeystone made themselves vital to the 52 multiverse]], meaning that it would be easy picking. [[ComicBook/BrightestDay Kidnapping the Entity]] was an attempt to rebuild the Antimatter Multiverse.

Think about it-the Crisis was designed to straighten out the endless continuity of DC Comics. The Anti-Monitor was sick of a confusing reality, so he decided to simplify it-make sure there was only one universe, and that the continuity didn't get snarled(the simplest way to simplify reality would be [[OmnicidalManiac to limit how complex it could get.]] The reason why the Anti-Monitor came back to life in the Sinestro Corps War was because he worried the recent 52 universes would muddle up continuity even more. He would later serve as a power battery to [[ComicBook/BlackestNight Nekron]] not just because he's a PhysicalGod, but because he had information about the continuity. Essentially, the Anti-Monitor is a CosmicEntity that exists to simplify the timeline.

...just thousands upon thousands, because as noted above, it's impossible to destroy all of an infinite number. This is supported in ''{{Planetary}}'', where Elijah Snow makes a reference to the Crisis as a "partial multiversal collapse" or something to that effect. The destroyed Earths were just an exceptionally large "family" of universes surrounding the multiversal cornerstone of Oa/Qward on Earth-1 and the Anti-Matter Universe, and other Earths (such as Wildstorm) were just too distant for the Anti-Monitor to detect. Alexander Luthor did not in fact recreate 51 other Earths, but only 50 -- the reconstitution of the multiple Earths facilitated a connection to the Wildstorm Universe, which unbeknownst to either world's denizens now acts as a bridge between the 52 and the wider multiverse.

The Antimoniter claimed to have destroyed the multiverse but since it was made up from an infinite number of Earths that would be functionally impossible to destroy a infinite number of anything. What really occured was that he destroyed trillions of worlds but simply seperated and sealed most worlds off from each other. In this process some beings were removed from their original worlds and placed into new ones often with no memory of their true home, this happened to the JusticeSocietyOfAmerica who were stranded on New Earth away from their original Earth-1 and to most of the Final Fantasy characters as their worlds were among those lost in the Crisis.