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[[WMG: Lex will be the villain in the second movie, and there will be a shout out to ''ComicBook/BatmanNoMansLand'' and the {{DCAU}}]]

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[[WMG: Lex will be the villain in the second movie, and there will be a shout out to ''ComicBook/BatmanNoMansLand'' and the {{DCAU}}]]Franchise/TheDCAU]]
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* Mercy was referred to by name. In the extended cut, so was Jimmy.
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[[WMG: DCEU Bats and Supes don't act like the ones we know because they aren't.]]
What we're watching is the dawn of the Justice ''Lords!''

[[WMG: Jimmy and Mercy will be retconned as not the real deal.]]
Their names weren't said onscreen (I know Jimmy's wasn't and I don't remember Mercy's; correct me if I'm wrong) and there are a few signs that DC is learning from the DarknessInducedAudienceApathy produced by Snyder's work so far. As such, even though they were intended to be those characters according to WordOfGod, the final product leaves room for the "real" Jimmy and Mercy Graves to be revealed and show their stuff.
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Halfway through the fight, Batman and Superman will realize that the other guy isn't their enemy. But they continue fighting to give Clark an impromptu training session and to trick LexLuthor into thinking they are still enemies. Because Clark knows that Lois is doing some sneaky detective work and needs LexLuthor to stay distracted.

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Halfway through the fight, Batman and Superman will realize that the other guy isn't their enemy. But they continue fighting to give Clark an impromptu training session and to trick LexLuthor Comicbook/LexLuthor into thinking they are still enemies. Because Clark knows that Lois is doing some sneaky detective work and needs LexLuthor Comicbook/LexLuthor to stay distracted.

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During the climatic battle against Doomsday, she cut the monster's hand, which caused the giant spike that ultimately impaled Clark to grow up in its place. She also didn't manage to restrain it for all the time that was needed to impale it with the Kryptonite spear until it was dead, which let it have its arms free and counterattack. Nothing is her fault - nobody could have predicted such regrowth, and the grip of her lasso loosened because the wall she was holding her feet on collapsed - but she still feels that she could have done better, and that Clark may be still alive if she did.

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During the climatic battle against Doomsday, she cut the monster's hand, which caused the giant spike that ultimately impaled Clark to grow up in its place. She also didn't manage to restrain it for all the time that was needed to impale it with the Kryptonite spear until it was dead, which let it have its arms free and counterattack. Nothing is her fault - nobody could have predicted such regrowth, and the grip of her lasso loosened because the wall she was holding her feet on collapsed - but she still feels that she could have done better, and that Clark may be still alive if she did.did.
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Note the clips of Batman branding a criminal and the Bat-Plane killing several people! These are entirely out of character for Bats but entirely IN-CHARACTER for the Red Hood.. Plus, we have the whole "Dead Robin Shrine" which was seen in the first trailer by CinemaSins (And confirmed in Trailer 2) and add on to the fact that DC is trying to push Red Hood, and we have a perfect storyline. Batman is mad at Superman due to the fight which killed his family, which, by the way, you could actually see within Man of Steel, Zod slicing down Wayne Tower, just from inside the building, and Superman is mad because Batman seems to be killing normal criminals, while Red Hood is really doing it all. Not bad for a [[Riley1sCool kid]] huh?

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Note the clips of Batman branding a criminal and the Bat-Plane killing several people! These are entirely out of character for Bats but entirely IN-CHARACTER for the Red Hood.. Plus, we have the whole "Dead Robin Shrine" which was seen in the first trailer by CinemaSins WebVideo/CinemaSins (And confirmed in Trailer 2) and add on to the fact that DC is trying to push Red Hood, and we have a perfect storyline. Batman is mad at Superman due to the fight which killed his family, which, by the way, you could actually see within Man of Steel, Zod slicing down Wayne Tower, just from inside the building, and Superman is mad because Batman seems to be killing normal criminals, while Red Hood is really doing it all. Not bad for a [[Riley1sCool kid]] huh?
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[[WMG: Diana decides to join Bruce also because she feels partially responsible for Clark's death]]
During the climatic battle against Doomsday, she cut the monster's hand, which caused the giant spike that ultimately impaled Clark to grow up in its place. She also didn't manage to restrain it for all the time that was needed to impale it with the Kryptonite spear until it was dead, which let it have its arms free and counterattack. Nothing is her fault - nobody could have predicted such regrowth, and the grip of her lasso loosened because the wall she was holding her feet on collapsed - but she still feels that she could have done better, and that Clark may be still alive if she did.
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[[WMG: Who Lex Luthor was really warning about at the end...]]
...Was an alien entity that was ''hungry''. This isn't Darkseid. Where else have we heard of an EldritchAbomination that hungers for worlds to consume -- and who may have learned to wait until the world's greatest superhuman protector is dead? Why, of course, it is [[Film/FantasticFourRiseOfTheSilverSurfer Galactus]] who is coming!
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[[WMG: Bruce Wayne has suffered brain damage in his 20 years as Batman]]
Tanking multiple point-blank shots to the back of the head, even when armored with apparently bulletproof fabric, is not something you just walk away from. This has probably happened before in the past, and it's taken it's toll. It would explain a lot of how nonsensical Batman's plan is as well as why he apparently has no ability to think rationally.
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*** It's also the sound of Mother/Father Boxes [[http://static1.comicvine.com/uploads/square_small/3/31666/2515473-motherbox_tattoo.jpg used in the]] [[http://static3.comicvine.com/uploads/original/1/18154/1366442-motherbox.jpg original Jack Kirby]] [[https://cdn3.whatculture.com/images/2014/08/mother-box.jpg Fourth World comics]].
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* It's been confirmed that the dead Robin is indeed Jason, so that means Dick has become ComicBook/Nightwing by then and that Tim Drake or Carrie Kelley isn't too far off.
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[[WMG: The Superman in the vision wasn't actually Superman]]
It was actually Cyborg Superman. Or Bizarro. Or some other villainous version of Superman.
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[[WMG: Mercy Graves won't stay dead]]
Lex Luthor will take the technology used to create Cyborg and use it to resurrect his bodyguard.
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** It's the sound of the Mobius Chair when it's being used. But usually that many ''pings'' in succession means either an information overload or something really bad is coming. I belive OP was referring to the Chair's presence in ''[[ComicBook/DarkseidWar Justice League: Darkseid War]]''.
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* What?
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The creators of Arrow have said that the reason why the Atom is more like Blue Beetle is that WB did not allow them to use the latter, since they had plans for the character. Similarly, they were told they couldn't use Harley Quinn, since she would be in Film/SuicideSquad. Considering that Barry is the main character in ''Series/{{The Flash|2014}}'' (2014), it seems unlikely that they would re-use the same character in two live-action universes. On the other hand, though, considering that Film/SupermanReturns came out while Smallville was still airing, two Barry Allens might not be impossible either.

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The creators of Arrow have said that the reason why the Atom is more like Blue Beetle is that WB did not allow them to use the latter, since they had plans for the character. Similarly, they were told they couldn't use Harley Quinn, since she would be in Film/SuicideSquad.Film/SuicideSquad2016. Considering that Barry is the main character in ''Series/{{The Flash|2014}}'' (2014), it seems unlikely that they would re-use the same character in two live-action universes. On the other hand, though, considering that Film/SupermanReturns came out while Smallville was still airing, two Barry Allens might not be impossible either.



And going with the "government doesn't trust superheroes" thing the New 52 is doing, she will appear to Lex Luthor to enlist his help in finding a way to defeat the newly formed Justice League [[BewareTheSuperman should they go rogue.]] The first project she brings him under? [[Film/SuicideSquad "We're forming a team of our own".]]

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And going with the "government doesn't trust superheroes" thing the New 52 is doing, she will appear to Lex Luthor to enlist his help in finding a way to defeat the newly formed Justice League [[BewareTheSuperman should they go rogue.]] The first project she brings him under? [[Film/SuicideSquad [[Film/SuicideSquad2016 "We're forming a team of our own".]]
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** Jossed, he'll be played by WillSmith, see ''Film/SuicideSquad''.

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** Jossed, he'll be played by WillSmith, see ''Film/SuicideSquad''.
''Film/SuicideSquad2016''.



And as the announcement of Batman's battle with Superman and return to crime fighting make national news, he will slowly emerge from his state, flash a smile and say [[ComicBook/BatmanTheDarkKnightReturns Batman. Darling.]] Thus foreshadowing his appearance in Film/SuicideSquad.

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And as the announcement of Batman's battle with Superman and return to crime fighting make national news, he will slowly emerge from his state, flash a smile and say [[ComicBook/BatmanTheDarkKnightReturns Batman. Darling.]] Thus foreshadowing his appearance in Film/SuicideSquad.
Film/SuicideSquad2016.



* While it's pretty well known that a lot of Batman's story draws inspiration from ''The Dark Knight Returns'', the idea of the Joker knowing his identity and tormenting him thus has been explored in [[spoiler: the comics through "Death of the Family" and "Endgame"--the latter being what confirms that post-Flashpoint DCU has the Joker figure it out]] and ''BatmanBeyondReturnOfTheJoker''. Incidentally, ''ROTJ'' is also of a story from a continuity where Batman retired after a tragedy [[spoiler: namely the torture of Robin, through which the Joker learns Batman's identity. ''Film/SuicideSquad'' features a scene ''very'' reminiscent to how the Joker tortured Robin]].

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* While it's pretty well known that a lot of Batman's story draws inspiration from ''The Dark Knight Returns'', the idea of the Joker knowing his identity and tormenting him thus has been explored in [[spoiler: the comics through "Death of the Family" and "Endgame"--the latter being what confirms that post-Flashpoint DCU has the Joker figure it out]] and ''BatmanBeyondReturnOfTheJoker''. Incidentally, ''ROTJ'' is also of a story from a continuity where Batman retired after a tragedy [[spoiler: namely the torture of Robin, through which the Joker learns Batman's identity. ''Film/SuicideSquad'' ''Film/SuicideSquad2016'' features a scene ''very'' reminiscent to how the Joker tortured Robin]].
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[[WMG: DING DING DING DING DING]]
Well, considering who the next BigBad is, I think it's safe to say that Lex might've heard that sound wrong.

It's actually:

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[[WMG: [[spoiler: Darksied]] is responsible for any OOC behavior in the movie]]
He caused Lex to GoMadFromTheRevelation and turned him into a pawn. He may have influenced Batman also.

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He caused Lex to GoMadFromTheRevelation and turned him into a pawn. He may have influenced Batman also. He is ultimately the reason why the movie is so dark.
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[[WMG: [[spoiler: Darksied]] is responsible for any OOC behavior in the movie]]
He caused Lex to GoMadFromTheRevelation and turned him into a pawn. He may have influenced Batman also.
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Think about it. Clark [[spoiler: is believed dead, and has a funeral of his own separate from Superman's.]] As such, when they both [[spoiler: come back,]] Perry--Clark's ''boss'', for goodness sake--won't be fooled for an instant...especially seeing as in ''Film/ManOfSteel'' he saw right through Lois's "the leads dried up" excuse. And ''so''...near the end of the film, Perry calls Clark and Lois into his office...and we see a parallel with Lucius Fox, where he sets a "don't ask, don't tell" deal with them, "But don't think for a ''second'' you two are pulling the wool over my eyes."
* Clark could still salvage his secret identity. Remember that he disappeared from work sometime before he had his first encounter with Batman. From the looks of things, Clark never came back to work, [spoiler: especially since he went into self-imposed exile after the senate hearing and only reappeared as Superman to save Lois]]. He could just waltz back into work one day and say that he was kidnapped by a terrorist group or something.

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Think about it. Clark [[spoiler: is believed dead, and has a funeral of his own separate from Superman's.]] As such, when they both [[spoiler: come back,]] Perry--Clark's ''boss'', for goodness sake--won't be fooled for an instant...especially seeing as in ''Film/ManOfSteel'' he saw right through Lois's "the leads dried up" excuse. And ''so''...near the end of the film, Perry calls Clark and Lois into his office...and we see a parallel with Lucius Fox, Fox in ''Film/BatmanBegins'', where he sets a "don't ask, don't tell" deal with them, "But "If you two never tell me a dang thing...I'll never have to a lie. But don't think for a ''second'' you two are pulling the wool over my eyes."
eyes--am I clear?"
* Clark could still salvage his secret identity. Remember that he disappeared from work sometime before he had his first encounter with Batman. From the looks of things, Clark never came back to work, [spoiler: [[spoiler: especially since he went into self-imposed exile after the senate hearing and only reappeared as Superman to save Lois]]. He could just waltz back into work one day and say that he was kidnapped by a terrorist group or something.
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Much like the end of the three-fight between Blue, Rexy, and the Idominus Rex from JurassicWorld, Aquaman will jump in out of nowhere to deliver the final blow to take out Doomsday. Not only will this [[ContinuityNod follow up]] from Aquaman rescuing Superman in ''Film/ManOfSteel'', but will instantly negate any and all "[[WhatKindOfLamePowerIsHeartAnyway Aquaman is useless]]" sentiment still lingering in the minds of the general movie-going public.

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Much like the end of the three-fight between Blue, Rexy, and the Idominus Rex from JurassicWorld, ''Film/JurassicWorld'', Aquaman will jump in out of nowhere to deliver the final blow to take out Doomsday. Not only will this [[ContinuityNod follow up]] from Aquaman rescuing Superman in ''Film/ManOfSteel'', but will instantly negate any and all "[[WhatKindOfLamePowerIsHeartAnyway Aquaman is useless]]" sentiment still lingering in the minds of the general movie-going public.
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** [[spoiler: He had an open casket funeral as Clark, so that explanation wouldn't hold any weight.]]

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** [[spoiler: He had an open casket funeral as Clark, so that explanation wouldn't hold any weight.weight, since there are many people, most of which don't know that Clark is Superman, who saw Clark Kent's dead body in a coffin and saw that coffin buried.]]
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In the comics, Batman has long suspected that Perry White is too good of a reporter to not know Clark's secret, and as said in the guess above, Perry showed in Man of Steel that he has a surprising amount of wisdom and perceptiveness behind that gruff exterior. It would also explain why he's so hard on Clark throughout the film: his harsh treatment makes the idea that Clark could be Superman seem very unlikely.

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In the comics, Batman has long suspected that Perry White is too good of a reporter to not know Clark's secret, and and, as said in the guess above, Perry showed in Man of Steel that he has a surprising amount of wisdom and perceptiveness behind that gruff exterior. It would also explain why he's so hard on Clark throughout the this film: his harsh treatment makes the idea that Clark could be Superman seem very unlikely.
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* Darkseid: I doubt this one very much, but thought I'd just get it out of the way.




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[[WMG: Perry White already knows Clark Kent is Superman.]]
In the comics, Batman has long suspected that Perry White is too good of a reporter to not know Clark's secret, and as said in the guess above, Perry showed in Man of Steel that he has a surprising amount of wisdom and perceptiveness behind that gruff exterior. It would also explain why he's so hard on Clark throughout the film: his harsh treatment makes the idea that Clark could be Superman seem very unlikely.
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[[WMG: Bruce had Jason's body put in the same mausoleum as his parents]]
Jason was, in many ways, [[LikeASonToMe his son]]. He was a part of the family.
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After ''Batman v Superman'', there will be a 6-movie ''Justice League'' story arc with no attempts at all to flesh out the non-Superman, non-Batman members of the League with their own movies. This will be done to avoid the "why aren't the Avengers helping out" type criticisms the MarvelCinematicUniverse keeps getting (and differentiate these movies from the MCU).

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After ''Batman v Superman'', there will be a 6-movie ''Justice League'' story arc with no attempts at all to flesh out the non-Superman, non-Batman members of the League with their own movies. This will be done to avoid the "why aren't the Avengers helping out" type criticisms the MarvelCinematicUniverse Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse keeps getting (and differentiate these movies from the MCU).



[[WMG: Amanda Waller will show up in the post-credit scene, becoming the [[MarvelCinematicUniverse Nick Fury]] tying the DC films together.]]

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[[WMG: Amanda Waller will show up in the post-credit scene, becoming the [[MarvelCinematicUniverse [[Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse Nick Fury]] tying the DC films together.]]
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*[[spoiler: Revived by Project Cadmus and the Suicide Squad]]


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[[WMG: Luthor sold himself out to [[spoiler: Darkseid]]]]
[[spoiler: before the events of the movie, to ensure his survival when he attacks earth. As return, he had to find and kill possible obstacles - the superheroes.]]
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Superman asking Batman to save his mother forced Batman to think about the fact that Superman ''has'' a mother, which caused Batman to view him as a person for the first time.

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Superman asking Batman to save his mother forced Batman to think about the fact that Superman ''has'' a mother, mother (a human one, at that), which caused Batman to view him as a person for the first time.
* Batman would have also correctly assumed that having a human mother means he was raised on Earth and thus had nothing to do with the Metropolis invasion.




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* Clark could still salvage his secret identity. Remember that he disappeared from work sometime before he had his first encounter with Batman. From the looks of things, Clark never came back to work, [spoiler: especially since he went into self-imposed exile after the senate hearing and only reappeared as Superman to save Lois]]. He could just waltz back into work one day and say that he was kidnapped by a terrorist group or something.

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