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I don't believe that BS about Thor committing suicide -- dude's playing lead guitar in a folk metal band, and simply has no interest in the shenanigans of the novel. He's doing quite well enough, thank you, from room-fulls of people with hammer pendants/tatoos mosh while singing along enthusiastically to lyrics that mention him either directly or indirectly.
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NeilGaiman aside there was a blink and miss it cameo by Delirium.
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[[WMG: American Gods takes place in the same universe as PercyJacksonAndTheOlympians and TheKaneChronicles]]
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[[WMG: The Lakeside sub-plot was inspired by the BlueOysterCult song ''Harvest Moon'']]
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[[WMG: The Lakeside sub-plot was inspired by the BlueOysterCult Music/BlueOysterCult song ''Harvest Moon'']]
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That was a full god, and Shadow is [[strike: [[HumansAreSpecial only]]]] a demigod. There is a running theme of one thing being two and two things being one in the Literature/AmericanGods [[Literature/AnansiBoys continuity]], so Shadow could easily be a demigod who was [[IronicNickname ironically]] (the intentional version of irony) given [[NamesTheSame the same name as]] his [[GodsNeedPrayerBadly Deader]] [[DeadLittleSister Than]] [[DeaderThanDead Dead]] half-brother, and [[YouCantFightFate accidentally stepped into his half-brother's place in things]]-- [[ImmuneToFate picking up a few extra tricks along the way]].
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That was a full god, and Shadow is [[strike: [[HumansAreSpecial only]]]] a demigod. There is a running theme of one thing being two and two things being one in the Literature/AmericanGods [[Literature/AnansiBoys continuity]], so Shadow could easily be a demigod who was [[IronicNickname ironically]] (the intentional version of irony) given [[NamesTheSame the same name as]] his [[GodsNeedPrayerBadly Deader]] [[DeadLittleSister Than]] Than [[DeaderThanDead Dead]] half-brother, and [[YouCantFightFate accidentally stepped into his half-brother's place in things]]-- [[ImmuneToFate picking up a few extra tricks along the way]].
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[[WMG: The Lakeside sub-plot was inspired by the BlueOysterCult song ''Harvest Moon'']]
If you've read the novel and heard the song, the similarity is blindingly obvious.
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[[WMG: American Gods and ''EightDaysOfLuke'' take place in the same continuity.]]
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* The fact that he named the organization after an anagram of "Fib" (a synonym for "Lie") is supposed to be a subtle raspberry to his enemies.
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* Mr. Wednesday is canonically just the American incarnation of Odin, as shown by the Icelandic Odin's appearance in the epilogue, so logically [[spoiler: his son Shadow is the American Baldr.]]
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NeilGaiman aside there was a blink and miss it cameo by Delirium.
* After failing to buy Hell from Dream (and Loki escaping) Odin decided to come up with a different way to survive Ragnorok.
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* Even if he is the way gods work in this universe there would still be a "real" [[spoiler: Balder]] in Scandinavia: Shadow is the American [[spoiler: Balder]] as Wednesday is the American Odin.
** My point was, he's not ''the'' American one. It's fairly obvious that he's not the original Scandinavian one, the same way ''no one'' (aside from, possibly, native American gods, and probably the New Gods) is the original _______ one.
** My point was, he's not ''the'' American one. It's fairly obvious that he's not the original Scandinavian one, the same way ''no one'' (aside from, possibly, native American gods, and probably the New Gods) is the original _______ one.
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** My point was, he's not ''the'' American one. It's fairly obvious that he's not the original Scandinavian one, the same way ''no one'' (aside from, possibly, native American gods, and probably the New Gods) is the original _______ one.
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Possibly the reason the Old Gods continue to survive no matter what, while the New Gods die when the thing they repersent go out of style, is because the stories of the Old Gods are still being told. Smithing may not be as mainstream as it used to be, but as long as people continue to pass down stories he is in (such as the origin of the Greek gods), Vulcan will still survive. Railroads didn't have that advantage, so he died when not enough people took the train. Cars will not have that problem, so long as people read this book.
* ...But the Railroad Baron didn't die. Shadow saw him in the final battle! Besides, that doesn't make sense, tons of people take the train every day, and even if they don't, it's still used for transporting goods. Even if your guess is true, the Railroad Baron wouldn't die out until all trains are obsolete.
* ...But the Railroad Baron didn't die. Shadow saw him in the final battle! Besides, that doesn't make sense, tons of people take the train every day, and even if they don't, it's still used for transporting goods. Even if your guess is true, the Railroad Baron wouldn't die out until all trains are obsolete.
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Possibly the reason the Old Gods continue to survive no matter what, while the New Gods die when the thing they repersent go out of style, is because the stories of the Old Gods are still being told. Smithing may not be as mainstream as it used to be, but as long as people continue to pass down stories he is in (such as the origin of the Greek gods), Vulcan will still survive. Railroads didn't have that advantage, so he died when not enough people took the train. Cars will not have that problem, so long as people read this book.
* ...But the Railroad Baron didn't die. Shadow saw him in the final battle! Besides, that doesn't make sense, tons of people take the train every day, and even if they don't, it's still used for transporting goods. Even if your guess is true, the Railroad Baron wouldn't die out until all trains are obsolete.
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* ...But the Railroad Baron didn't die. Shadow saw him in the final battle! Besides, that doesn't make sense, tons of people take the train every day, and even if they don't, it's still used for transporting goods. Even if your guess is true, the Railroad Baron wouldn't die out until all trains are obsolete.
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* Well, Monarch of the Glen suggests he still exists on some level at least, unless Shadow was just dreaming. Which, given as this NeilGaiman we're talking about, is unlikely.
** "[[TheSandman It is never just a dream.]]"
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* For most theories concerning the unknown god see [[http://frowl.org/gods/forgotten.html this]] page. It is impossible to tell and Gaiman has said he will not say anything on the topic.
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Let's see- Scheming character with multiple identities, one of which is the persona of a two-bit con artist. Both arrange their arrest so they can [[YouAllMeetInACell meet up with people in prison]]. The two admittedly look pretty different, but some amount of disguise going on seems pretty plausible.
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Let's see- Scheming character with multiple identities, one of which is the persona of a two-bit con artist. Both arrange their arrest so they can [[YouAllMeetInACell meet up with people in prison]]. The two admittedly look pretty different, but some amount of disguise going on seems pretty plausible.
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Gaiman has said he was inspired by Diana Wynne Jones, and Luke and Wedding have very similar personalities to Low-Key and Wednesday, just toned down a little for a children's book. Also, at the end of Eight Days of Luke, Wedding mentions battling other faiths for belief. And the Valhalla hidden inside a funfair is similar to various settings in American Gods.
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Gaiman has said he was inspired by Diana Wynne Jones, and Luke and Wedding have very similar personalities to Low-Key and Wednesday, just toned down a little for a children's book. Also, at the end of Eight Days of Luke, Wedding mentions battling other faiths for belief. And the Valhalla hidden inside a funfair is similar to various settings in American Gods.
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*...But the Railroad Baron didn't die. Shadow saw him in the final battle! Besides, that doesn't make sense, tons of people take the train every day, and even if they don't, it's still used for transporting goods. Even if your guess is true, the Railroad Baron wouldn't die out until all trains are obsolete.
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The Greek/Roman Gods were smart enough to know that if they didn't somehow keep themselves known, they too would fade. So they did what they needed to in order to ensure their survival, and moved to America, had a bunch of children that they claimed and put into a camp, and told them to worship their parents (the Gods) all summer and throughout their lives. Unfortunately, because of the strong concentration of power focusing on not only the Gods, but also the monsters that came with them, their children accidentally brought the Greek/Roman monsters to life as well. The reason we don't see many of the Greek/Roman gods around Shadow is because they're busy with their own troubles that don't include fading out of existence.
The Egyptian Gods had a different idea and decided that if there weren't enough people to worship them into a physical existence, that they would need to take hosts. So they did. The rest who could have a physical form appear much like Mr. Wednesday did to Shadow; in a human form that best matches their personality.
The Greek/Roman Gods were smart enough to know that if they didn't somehow keep themselves known, they too would fade. So they did what they needed to in order to ensure their survival, and moved to America, had a bunch of children that they claimed and put into a camp, and told them to worship their parents (the Gods) all summer and throughout their lives. Unfortunately, because of the strong concentration of power focusing on not only the Gods, but also the monsters that came with them, their children accidentally brought the Greek/Roman monsters to life as well. The reason we don't see many of the Greek/Roman gods around Shadow is because they're busy with their own troubles that don't include fading out of existence.
The Egyptian Gods had a different idea and decided that if there weren't enough people to worship them into a physical existence, that they would need to take hosts. So they did. The rest who could have a physical form appear much like Mr. Wednesday did to Shadow; in a human form that best matches their personality.
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** "[[TheSandman It is never just a dream.]]"
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That was a full god, and Shadow is [[strike: [[HumansAreSpecial only]]]] a demigod. There is a running theme of one thing being two and two things being one in the AmericanGods [[AnansiBoys continuity]], so Shadow could easily be a demigod who was [[IronicNickname ironically]] (the intentional version of irony) given [[NamesTheSame the same name as]] his [[GodsNeedPrayerBadly Deader]] [[DeadLittleSister Than]] [[DeaderThanDead Dead]] half-brother, and [[YouCantFightFate accidentally stepped into his half-brother's place in things]]-- [[ImmuneToFate picking up a few extra tricks along the way]].
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That was a full god, and Shadow is [[strike: [[HumansAreSpecial only]]]] a demigod. There is a running theme of one thing being two and two things being one in the AmericanGods [[AnansiBoys Literature/AmericanGods [[Literature/AnansiBoys continuity]], so Shadow could easily be a demigod who was [[IronicNickname ironically]] (the intentional version of irony) given [[NamesTheSame the same name as]] his [[GodsNeedPrayerBadly Deader]] [[DeadLittleSister Than]] [[DeaderThanDead Dead]] half-brother, and [[YouCantFightFate accidentally stepped into his half-brother's place in things]]-- [[ImmuneToFate picking up a few extra tricks along the way]].
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* Even if he is the way gods work in this universe there would still be a "real" Balder [[spoiler: Balder]] in Scandinavia: Shadow is the American Balder [[spoiler: Balder]] as Wednesday is the American Odin.
** My point was, he's not ''the'' American one. It's fairly obvious that he's not the original Scandinavian one, the same way ''no one'' (aside from, possibly, native American gods, and probably the New Gods) is the original _______ one.
** My point was, he's not ''the'' American one. It's fairly obvious that he's not the original Scandinavian one, the same way ''no one'' (aside from, possibly, native American gods, and probably the New Gods) is the original _______ one.
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[[WMG: The two guesses above are both true; additionally, the whole idea was Wednesday's Plan B]]
Because logic dictates that [[MagnificentBastard a Bastard as Magnificient as Wednesday]] can't go without contingency plan. He had made arrangements so that when [[spoiler: Shadow stopped the two fighting forces]] and his "war" went downhill, a record of the whole thing is delivered to Mr. Gaiman. The resulting faith brought forth by the finished novel was enough to nourish both the Old and New Gods and resurrect their dead (including [[spoiler: Wednesday and Loki]]). Wednesday could then claim ''this'' is what he was aiming for all along, honest.
Because logic dictates that [[MagnificentBastard a Bastard as Magnificient as Wednesday]] can't go without contingency plan. He had made arrangements so that when [[spoiler: Shadow stopped the two fighting forces]] and his "war" went downhill, a record of the whole thing is delivered to Mr. Gaiman. The resulting faith brought forth by the finished novel was enough to nourish both the Old and New Gods and resurrect their dead (including [[spoiler: Wednesday and Loki]]). Wednesday could then claim ''this'' is what he was aiming for all along, honest.
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* For most theories concerning the unknown god see [[http://frowl.org/gods/forgotten.html this]] page. It is impossible to tell and Gaiman has said he will not say anything on the topic.
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[[WMG: American Gods and ''EightDaysOfLuke'' take place in the same continuity.]]
Gaiman has said he was inspired by Diana Wynne Jones, and Luke and Wedding have very similar personalities to Low-Key and Wednesday, just toned down a little for a children's book. Also, at the end of Eight Days of Luke, Wedding mentions battling other faiths for belief. And the Valhalla hidden inside a funfair is similar to various settings in American Gods.
Thor is alive because they're the British versions, not the American ones, and are doing a little better (or were back in the seventies.)
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* Well, Monarch of the Glen suggests he still exists on some level at least, unless Shadow was just dreaming. Which, given as this NeilGaiman we're talking about, is unlikely.
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[[WMG: The god in Las Vegas was Binbougami, the japanese spirit of poverity,]]
Explains why he gets empowered by the loss of wealtha nd why he would request Soma as his price.
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[[WMG: Shadow isn't ''the'' [[spoiler: Baldr]].]]
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[[WMG: The book and [[http://www.crowdsourcing.com/cs/2010/05/ready-set-read-the-one-book-one-twitter-discussion-schedule.html #1b1t]] the twitter]] are an attempt to restore faith in the gods.]]
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Both are towns (beside a lake) in the Midwest that have thrived despite the depopulation of the rural Midwest. There are several other similarities, such as the genial and occasionally eccentric inhabitants.
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He infiltrated the FBI during its earliest stages and cultivated it into something iconic. While in a position of power, he also engaged in randomness and rumor mongering so that people would still talk about the scandalous little details to this day - up to and including the belief that Hoover had nude photos of Elanor Roosevelt "just in case".
At the same time, he actively worked against the reputation of that individual organization in preparation for his retirement, making sure to discredit it and any of its successors. Which would mean that he was the one who first told the CIA joke. By doing this, he was able to build up a suitable MIB mystique in American consciousness that it manifested the New-Gods-aligned organization that we all know & hate. Using his experience as Hoover, Loki took control of the organization and was able to reap the benefits of having an army of disposable little gods that are easily dealt with when faced with a TomatoInTheMirror moment.
This is why Mister Town & co follow his orders. They know that he was Hoover before becoming Mister World, and that's explanation enough for them. The higher-ups always know better & are more scarily-competent. Even when the higher-ups are in jail.
He infiltrated the FBI during its earliest stages and cultivated it into something iconic. While in a position of power, he also engaged in randomness and rumor mongering so that people would still talk about the scandalous little details to this day - up to and including the belief that Hoover had nude photos of Elanor Roosevelt "just in case".
At the same time, he actively worked against the reputation of that individual organization in preparation for his retirement, making sure to discredit it and any of its successors. Which would mean that he was the one who first told the CIA joke. By doing this, he was able to build up a suitable MIB mystique in American consciousness that it manifested the New-Gods-aligned organization that we all know & hate. Using his experience as Hoover, Loki took control of the organization and was able to reap the benefits of having an army of disposable little gods that are easily dealt with when faced with a TomatoInTheMirror moment.
This is why Mister Town & co follow his orders. They know that he was Hoover before becoming Mister World, and that's explanation enough for them. The higher-ups always know better & are more scarily-competent. Even when the higher-ups are in jail.
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It explains the popularity of LOLCats.
It explains the popularity of LOLCats.
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[[WMG: As a corrolary, this book was made by the New Gods to ensure their survival]]
Possibly the reason the Old Gods continue to survive no matter what, while the New Gods die when the thing they repersent go out of style, is because the stories of the Old Gods are still being told. Smithing may not be as mainstream as it used to be, but as long as people continue to pass down stories he is in (such as the origin of the Greek gods), Vulcan will still survive. Railroads didn't have that advantage, so he died when not enough people took the train. Cars will not have that problem, so long as people read this book.
Possibly the reason the Old Gods continue to survive no matter what, while the New Gods die when the thing they repersent go out of style, is because the stories of the Old Gods are still being told. Smithing may not be as mainstream as it used to be, but as long as people continue to pass down stories he is in (such as the origin of the Greek gods), Vulcan will still survive. Railroads didn't have that advantage, so he died when not enough people took the train. Cars will not have that problem, so long as people read this book.
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Although Shadow stopped the battle proper, gods still died in the opening skirmish, including between Shadow finding out it’s a con and talking to the dis-embodied Wednesday and stopping the battle: possibly enough to fuel Wednesday's resurrection. Given his plan was scuppered by Shadow before he could gain full power, he decided to lie low and play dead.
