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[[WMG: Stanley is actually [[Film/{{Troll}} Torok the Troll]].]]
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[[WMG: Stanley is actually [[Film/{{Troll}} [[Film/Troll1986 Torok the Troll]].]]
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Gnorga has obviously killed a lot of their subjects, to the point of using their petrified bodies as furniture and support beams. His suggestion of banishment was to try to introduce the idea of non-fatal punishments into the kingdom (especially because Gnorga crosses out the carving of him in her song).
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Gnorga has obviously killed a lot of their subjects, to the point of using their petrified bodies as furniture and support beams. His suggestion of banishment was to try to introduce the idea of non-fatal punishments into the kingdom (especially because Gnorga crosses out the carving of him in her song).song).
[[WMG: The ending was a last-ditch effort by Bluth.]]
It was either as a take-that to the hideousness of the rest of the movie, or given the man's true genius, he deliberately made it look like a watered-down Film/LittleShopOfHorrors original ending or a super-villain plot knowing that future viewers will pick up on it and either poke fun at it or use it as evidence that Stanley is deceptive and evil, thus giving them at least something to walk away with.
[[WMG: The ending was a last-ditch effort by Bluth.]]
It was either as a take-that to the hideousness of the rest of the movie, or given the man's true genius, he deliberately made it look like a watered-down Film/LittleShopOfHorrors original ending or a super-villain plot knowing that future viewers will pick up on it and either poke fun at it or use it as evidence that Stanley is deceptive and evil, thus giving them at least something to walk away with.
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There has to be ''some'' reason why they hate greenery and love gross things. Maybe they literally need rot and death in order to survive, and living plants are toxic to them.
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There has to be ''some'' reason why they hate greenery and love gross things. Maybe they literally need rot and death in order to survive, and living plants are toxic to them.them.
[[WMG: Llort's actions are PragmaticVillainy]]
Gnorga has obviously killed a lot of their subjects, to the point of using their petrified bodies as furniture and support beams. His suggestion of banishment was to try to introduce the idea of non-fatal punishments into the kingdom (especially because Gnorga crosses out the carving of him in her song).
[[WMG: Llort's actions are PragmaticVillainy]]
Gnorga has obviously killed a lot of their subjects, to the point of using their petrified bodies as furniture and support beams. His suggestion of banishment was to try to introduce the idea of non-fatal punishments into the kingdom (especially because Gnorga crosses out the carving of him in her song).
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[[WMG: A film-hating wizard created a curse to switch the endings of Film/LittleShopOfHorrors and ATrollInCentralPark.]]
Of course this doesn't really make ATrollInCentralPark any better, as the true ending involves Stanley almost losing to Gnorga after an awesome VillainSong, only for Gnorga to be electrocuted to death by a stray wire, and Stanley and Rosie go and live in the suburbs somewhere.
Of course this doesn't really make ATrollInCentralPark any better, as the true ending involves Stanley almost losing to Gnorga after an awesome VillainSong, only for Gnorga to be electrocuted to death by a stray wire, and Stanley and Rosie go and live in the suburbs somewhere.
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[[WMG: A film-hating wizard created a curse to switch the endings of Film/LittleShopOfHorrors and ATrollInCentralPark.WesternAnimation/ATrollInCentralPark.]]
Of course this doesn't really makeATrollInCentralPark WesternAnimation/ATrollInCentralPark any better, as the true ending involves Stanley almost losing to Gnorga after an awesome VillainSong, only for Gnorga to be electrocuted to death by a stray wire, and Stanley and Rosie go and live in the suburbs somewhere.
Of course this doesn't really make
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The characters themselves were wiped out by the plantocalypse, and when the Audrey [=IIs=] left the Earth they only took their pods, leaving immobile vines. ''ATrollInCentralPark'' is an attempt by the survivors to explain what happened, years later, although they have somewhat forgotten of the violence of the plantocalypse.
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The characters themselves were wiped out by the plantocalypse, and when the Audrey [=IIs=] left the Earth they only took their pods, leaving immobile vines. ''ATrollInCentralPark'' ''WesternAnimation/ATrollInCentralPark'' is an attempt by the survivors to explain what happened, years later, although they have somewhat forgotten of the violence of the plantocalypse.
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[[WMG: Stanley's "magic" is really [[TengenToppaGurrenLagann Spiral Energy]].]]
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[[WMG: Stanley's "magic" is really [[TengenToppaGurrenLagann [[Anime/TengenToppaGurrenLagann Spiral Energy]].]]
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There has to be ''some'' reason why they hate greenery and love gross things. Maybe they literally need rot and death in order to survive, and living plants are toxic to them.
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*Alternately, he's just LethallyStupid
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A very [[MemeticMutation baaa]][[NarmCharm aaad]] {{Troll}}!
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A very [[MemeticMutation baaa]][[NarmCharm aaad]] {{Troll}}!{{Troll}}!
[[WMG: Flowers are poisonous to trolls]]
There has to be ''some'' reason why they hate greenery and love gross things. Maybe they literally need rot and death in order to survive, and living plants are toxic to them.
[[WMG: Flowers are poisonous to trolls]]
There has to be ''some'' reason why they hate greenery and love gross things. Maybe they literally need rot and death in order to survive, and living plants are toxic to them.
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His mother was Llort's sister, and seemed to be of similar ilk to Stanley- it's been a while since this troper's watched the movie, so maybe when she was found out, she was stoned. Llort did his best to make sure Stanley was saved and brought up as a normal troll, though clearly that didn't work. That's why he makes sure Stanley ends up in New York, where he might be happy. To pretend he hasn't gone soft, he goes along with Gnorga's plot to end Stanley, but quickly makes amends once she's dead.
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His mother was Llort's sister, and seemed to be of similar ilk to Stanley- it's been a while since this troper's watched the movie, so maybe when she was found out, she was stoned. Llort did his best to make sure Stanley was saved and brought up as a normal troll, though clearly that didn't work. That's why he makes sure Stanley ends up in New York, where he might be happy. To pretend he hasn't gone soft, he goes along with Gnorga's plot to end Stanley, but quickly makes amends once she's dead.dead.
[[WMG: The troll that told Stanley to have a rotten day was a bad troll]]
A very [[MemeticMutation baaa]][[NarmCharm aaad]] {{Troll}}!
[[WMG: The troll that told Stanley to have a rotten day was a bad troll]]
A very [[MemeticMutation baaa]][[NarmCharm aaad]] {{Troll}}!
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** Does it really need explaining?
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[[WMG: Stanely is actually the villain.]]
He's trying to use his green thumb to wipe out all of civilization by enveloping it out-of-control plantlife, to make everything absolutely green.
He's trying to use his green thumb to wipe out all of civilization by enveloping it out-of-control plantlife, to make everything absolutely green.
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[[WMG: Stanely Stanley is actually the villain.]]
He's trying to use his green thumb to wipe out all of civilization by enveloping it out-of-control plantlife, to make everything absolutelygreen.green.
[[WMG: Stanley is Llort's nephew.]]
His mother was Llort's sister, and seemed to be of similar ilk to Stanley- it's been a while since this troper's watched the movie, so maybe when she was found out, she was stoned. Llort did his best to make sure Stanley was saved and brought up as a normal troll, though clearly that didn't work. That's why he makes sure Stanley ends up in New York, where he might be happy. To pretend he hasn't gone soft, he goes along with Gnorga's plot to end Stanley, but quickly makes amends once she's dead.
He's trying to use his green thumb to wipe out all of civilization by enveloping it out-of-control plantlife, to make everything absolutely
[[WMG: Stanley is Llort's nephew.]]
His mother was Llort's sister, and seemed to be of similar ilk to Stanley- it's been a while since this troper's watched the movie, so maybe when she was found out, she was stoned. Llort did his best to make sure Stanley was saved and brought up as a normal troll, though clearly that didn't work. That's why he makes sure Stanley ends up in New York, where he might be happy. To pretend he hasn't gone soft, he goes along with Gnorga's plot to end Stanley, but quickly makes amends once she's dead.
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[[JustForPun Isn't it obvious?]]
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[[JustForPun Isn't it obvious?]]obvious?]]
[[WMG: Stanely is actually the villain.]]
He's trying to use his green thumb to wipe out all of civilization by enveloping it out-of-control plantlife, to make everything absolutely green.
[[WMG: Stanely is actually the villain.]]
He's trying to use his green thumb to wipe out all of civilization by enveloping it out-of-control plantlife, to make everything absolutely green.
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** No, no, because to do that the one who dies would have to be the one who covers New York in plant life. The true ending, then, would involve Gnorga almost losing to Stanley after an awesome VillainSong, only for Stanley to be electrocuted to death by a stray wire.
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* The actual plot would have made a lot more sense if not seen through the eyes of that stoner squirrel. Everything's from his point of view.
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[[WMG: New York was evacuated or everyone was hiding when Gnorga's tornado hits Central Park.]]
This would somewhat explain how Gnorga could get away with attacking a place in one of the most densely populated cities on Earth without anyone noticing; its also possible Gnorga anticipated the Tornado would be a clever cover-up so she can search for Stanley and the kids without interference. This would also explain why New York is seemingly vacant of people during the ending as well (but doesn't explain why Gus and Rosie's parents are still around, and don't seem to acknowledge the tornadoes damage).
This would somewhat explain how Gnorga could get away with attacking a place in one of the most densely populated cities on Earth without anyone noticing; its also possible Gnorga anticipated the Tornado would be a clever cover-up so she can search for Stanley and the kids without interference. This would also explain why New York is seemingly vacant of people during the ending as well (but doesn't explain why Gus and Rosie's parents are still around, and don't seem to acknowledge the tornadoes damage).
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This would somewhat explain how Gnorga could get away with attacking a place in one of the most densely populated cities on Earth without anything noticing; its also possible Gnorga anticipated the Tornado would be a clever cover-up so she can search for Stanley and the kids without interference. This would also explain why New York is seemingly vacant of people during the ending as well (but doesn't explain why Gus and Rosie's parents are still around, and don't seem to acknowledge the tornadoes damage).
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This would somewhat explain how Gnorga could get away with attacking a place in one of the most densely populated cities on Earth without anything anyone noticing; its also possible Gnorga anticipated the Tornado would be a clever cover-up so she can search for Stanley and the kids without interference. This would also explain why New York is seemingly vacant of people during the ending as well (but doesn't explain why Gus and Rosie's parents are still around, and don't seem to acknowledge the tornadoes damage).
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[[WMG: New York was evacuated or everyone was hiding when Gnorga's tornado hits Central Park.]]
This would somewhat explain how Gnorga could get away with attacking a place in one of the most densely populated cities on Earth without anything noticing; its also possible Gnorga anticipated the Tornado would be a clever cover-up so she can search for Stanley and the kids without interference. This would also explain why New York is seemingly vacant of people during the ending as well (but doesn't explain why Gus and Rosie's parents are still around, and don't seem to acknowledge the tornadoes damage).
This would somewhat explain how Gnorga could get away with attacking a place in one of the most densely populated cities on Earth without anything noticing; its also possible Gnorga anticipated the Tornado would be a clever cover-up so she can search for Stanley and the kids without interference. This would also explain why New York is seemingly vacant of people during the ending as well (but doesn't explain why Gus and Rosie's parents are still around, and don't seem to acknowledge the tornadoes damage).
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He genuinely likes Stanley as a person and was willing to look for any excuse to keep him from being stoned without having Gnorga brand him a traitor, even making up stuff about the outside world to get on Gnorga's good side, such as New York and humanity being a horrible fate to sentence Stanley too. The plan falls apart when its revealed Stanley is enjoying himself there, and when word spreads that Stanley's punishment is too soft, Llort just rolls with it as best as he can as Gnorga decides to take care of Stanley personally.
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He genuinely likes Stanley as a person and was willing to look for any excuse to keep him from being stoned without having getting Gnorga brand him a traitor, suspicious, even making up stuff about the outside world to get on Gnorga's good side, such as New York and humanity being a horrible fate to sentence Stanley too. The plan falls apart when its revealed Stanley is enjoying himself there, and when word spreads that Stanley's punishment is too soft, Llort just rolls with it as best as he can as Gnorga decides to take care of Stanley personally.
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[[WMG: Llort flat out lied about New York being a PlaceWorseThanDeath.]]
He genuinely likes Stanley as a person and was willing to look for any excuse to keep him from being stoned without having Gnorga brand him a traitor, even making up stuff about the outside world to get on Gnorga's good side, such as New York and humanity being a horrible fate to sentence Stanley too. The plan falls apart when its revealed Stanley is enjoying himself there, and when word spreads that Stanley's punishment is too soft, Llort just rolls with it as best as he can as Gnorga decides to take care of Stanley personally.
He genuinely likes Stanley as a person and was willing to look for any excuse to keep him from being stoned without having Gnorga brand him a traitor, even making up stuff about the outside world to get on Gnorga's good side, such as New York and humanity being a horrible fate to sentence Stanley too. The plan falls apart when its revealed Stanley is enjoying himself there, and when word spreads that Stanley's punishment is too soft, Llort just rolls with it as best as he can as Gnorga decides to take care of Stanley personally.
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[[WMG: DonBluth was {{Trolling}} when he made this movie.]]
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[[WMG: DonBluth Creator/DonBluth was {{Trolling}} {{Troll}}ing when he made this movie.]]
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[[WMG: The film is an allegory of democracy against communism]]
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[[WMG: The film is an allegory of democracy against communism]]communism.]]
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** Burn the heretic!
[[WMG: Stanley's "magic" is really [[TengenToppaGurrenLagann Spiral Energy]]]]
[[WMG: Stanley's "magic" is really [[TengenToppaGurrenLagann Spiral Energy]]]]
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[[WMG: Stanley is actually [[Film/{{Troll}} Torok the Troll]]]]
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* So, in a way it's like a LighterAndSofter FutureImperfect version of Film/TheHappening if The Happening was a FutureImperfect retelling of Theatre/LittleShopOfHorrors?
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[[WMG: A Troll in Central Park is the unofficial Troll 4]]
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[[WMG: A Troll in Central Park is the unofficial Troll 4]]
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[[WMG: Goodness is troll drugs]]
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[[WMG: Goodness is troll drugs]]
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* Can someone please explain this one?
* Can someone please explain this one?
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Stanley is the only person in the film who shows any individuality compared to the other trolls, and his magic green thumb drives this point home. The other trolls, by their hideous and grumpy nature, are clearly not benefiting from their habits, but are too ingrained into them or consider them too natural to consider breaking out of (ala [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegory_of_the_Cave Plato's Cave Allegory]]), or, out of fear or loyalty, stick to their habits. [[BigBad Gnorga]] is the ultimate conformist--a true fascist who believes solely in "her way, or the highway", with not the slightest nod to anyone below her distinguishing themselves--going as far as to where she can and ''will'' stop you from having any chance of abandoning conformity, ''[[Literature/NineteenEightyFour 1984]]'' style (read: Turns anyone who shows individuality into stone, which can be interpreted as a visible form of brainwashing, or not being able to change at all, or just flat out death). Her husband Llort harbors a secret desire to abandon the habits of the troll kingdom, but largely hides it out of fear of being stoned. The climax when Stanley finally rebels against Gnorga and topples her with his sheer willpower is meant to represent the triumph of the individual against impossible odds. Alternatively...
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Stanley is the only person in the film who shows any individuality compared to the other trolls, and his magic green thumb drives this point home. The other trolls, by their hideous and grumpy nature, are clearly not benefiting from their habits, but are too ingrained into them or consider them too natural to consider breaking out of (ala [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegory_of_the_Cave Plato's Cave Allegory]]), or, out of fear or loyalty, stick to their habits. [[BigBad Gnorga]] is the ultimate conformist--a true fascist who believes solely in "her way, or the highway", with not the slightest nod to anyone below her distinguishing themselves--going as far as to where she can and ''will'' [[RoyalsWhoActuallyDoSomething go out of her way to stop you you]] from having any chance of abandoning conformity, ''[[Literature/NineteenEightyFour 1984]]'' style (read: Turns anyone who shows individuality into stone, which can be interpreted as a visible form of brainwashing, or not being able to change at all, or just flat out death). Her husband Llort harbors a secret desire to abandon the habits of the troll kingdom, but largely hides it out of fear of being stoned. The climax when Stanley finally rebels against Gnorga and topples her with his sheer willpower is meant to represent the triumph of the individual against impossible odds. Alternatively...
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Stanley is the only person in the film who shows any individuality compared to the other bitter trolls, and his magic green thumb drives this point home. The other trolls, by their hideous and grumpy nature, are clearly not benefiting from their habits, but are too ingrained into them or consider them too natural to consider breaking out of (ala [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegory_of_the_Cave Plato's Cave Allegory]]), or, out of fear or loyalty, stick to their habits. [[BigBad Gnorga]] is the ultimate conformist--a true fascist who believes solely in "her way, or the highway", with not the slightest nod to anyone below her distinguishing themselves--going as far as to where she can and ''will'' stop you from having any chance of abandoning conformity, ''[[Literature/NineteenEightyFour 1984]]'' style (read: Turns anyone who shows individuality into stone, which can be interpreted as a visible form of brainwashing, or not being able to change at all, or just flat out death). Her husband Llort harbors a secret desire to abandon the habits of the troll kingdom, but largely hides it out of fear of being stoned. The climax when Stanley finally rebels against Gnorga and topples her with his sheer willpower is meant to represent the triumph of the individual against impossible odds. Alternatively...
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Stanley is the only person in the film who shows any individuality compared to the other bitter trolls, and his magic green thumb drives this point home. The other trolls, by their hideous and grumpy nature, are clearly not benefiting from their habits, but are too ingrained into them or consider them too natural to consider breaking out of (ala [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegory_of_the_Cave Plato's Cave Allegory]]), or, out of fear or loyalty, stick to their habits. [[BigBad Gnorga]] is the ultimate conformist--a true fascist who believes solely in "her way, or the highway", with not the slightest nod to anyone below her distinguishing themselves--going as far as to where she can and ''will'' stop you from having any chance of abandoning conformity, ''[[Literature/NineteenEightyFour 1984]]'' style (read: Turns anyone who shows individuality into stone, which can be interpreted as a visible form of brainwashing, or not being able to change at all, or just flat out death). Her husband Llort harbors a secret desire to abandon the habits of the troll kingdom, but largely hides it out of fear of being stoned. The climax when Stanley finally rebels against Gnorga and topples her with his sheer willpower is meant to represent the triumph of the individual against impossible odds. Alternatively...
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Stanley is the only person in the film who openly shows any kind of individuality compared to the other bitter trolls, and his magic green thumb drives this point home further. The other trolls, by their hideous and grumpy nature, are clearly not benefiting from their habits, but are too ingrained into them or consider them too natural to consider breaking out of (think Socrates and the other men in the dark cave), or, out of fear or loyalty, stick to their habits. Gnorga is the ultimate conformist--a true fascist or dictator who believes solely in "her way, or the highway", with not the slightest nod to anyone below her distinguishing themselves--going as far as to where she can and ''will'' stop you from having any chance of abandoning conformity, ''1984'' style (read: Turns anyone who shows individuality into stone, which can be interpreted as a visible form of brainwashing, or not being able to change at all, or just flat out death). Her husband Llort harbors a secret desire to abandon the conformity habits of the troll kingdom, but largely hides it out of fear of being stoned. The climax when Stanley finally openly rebels against Gnorga and topples her with his sheer willpower is meant to represent the triumph of the individual going against the grain, and against impossible odds. Alternatively...
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Stanley is the only person in the film who openly shows any kind of individuality compared to the other bitter trolls, and his magic green thumb drives this point home further. home. The other trolls, by their hideous and grumpy nature, are clearly not benefiting from their habits, but are too ingrained into them or consider them too natural to consider breaking out of (think Socrates and the other men in the dark cave), (ala [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegory_of_the_Cave Plato's Cave Allegory]]), or, out of fear or loyalty, stick to their habits. Gnorga [[BigBad Gnorga]] is the ultimate conformist--a true fascist or dictator who believes solely in "her way, or the highway", with not the slightest nod to anyone below her distinguishing themselves--going as far as to where she can and ''will'' stop you from having any chance of abandoning conformity, ''1984'' ''[[Literature/NineteenEightyFour 1984]]'' style (read: Turns anyone who shows individuality into stone, which can be interpreted as a visible form of brainwashing, or not being able to change at all, or just flat out death). Her husband Llort harbors a secret desire to abandon the conformity habits of the troll kingdom, but largely hides it out of fear of being stoned. The climax when Stanley finally openly rebels against Gnorga and topples her with his sheer willpower is meant to represent the triumph of the individual going against the grain, and against impossible odds. Alternatively...
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Its really just a good vs. evil story about a troll who can grow plants against an evil dictator who can turn people into stone.
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Its really just a [[BlackAndWhiteMorality good vs. evil story story]] about a troll who can grow plants against an evil dictator who can turn people into stone.
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* {{Alternate Character Interpretation}}- It is possible to see Stanley as not so benevolent troll, considering he dreams of a land where all trolls are essentially copies of him (even if supposed to be "good") and, in the end, [[spoiler: he covers New York in vegetation]]. Whether he is simply delusional or actively malevolent is up to the viewer.
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* {{Alternate Character Interpretation}}- AlternateCharacterInterpretation - It is possible to see Stanley as not so benevolent troll, considering he dreams of a land where all trolls are essentially copies of him (even if supposed to be "good") and, in the end, [[spoiler: he covers New York in vegetation]]. Whether he is simply delusional or actively malevolent is up to the viewer.
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*** [[NightmareFuel OH GOD.]] GOD. [[FridgeHorror Do you realize how horrifyingly terrifying this makes the movie!?!]]
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** Burn the heretic!