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And so the cycle repeats itself, and once again humanity will have a serious choice to make: link the fire one more time, thus postponing the Age of Dark, or giving in to the Night King, who acts out in the name of the Furtive Pygmy. Only difference is, now the Dark Soul has assumed the form of cold for some reason. This might seem like a flaw in the theory, but maybe not. Maybe this is what happens when the Dark Soul also loses its strength, its true essence. Just like the Light Soul becomes dim and weak, the Dark Soul grows colder and colder until the Abyss is not a sea of shadows anymore, but of ice. Or maybe this was its true nature all along, and now Humanity is more powerful than ever.

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And so the cycle repeats itself, and once again humanity will have a serious choice to make: link the fire one more time, thus postponing the Age of Dark, or giving in to the Night King, who acts out in the name of the Furtive Pygmy. Only difference is, now the Dark Soul has assumed the form of cold for some reason. This might seem like a flaw in the theory, but maybe not. Maybe this is what happens when the Dark Soul also loses its strength, its true essence. Just like the Light Soul becomes dim and weak, the Dark Soul grows colder and colder until the Abyss is not a sea of shadows anymore, but of ice. Or maybe this was its true nature all along, and now Humanity is more powerful than ever.ever.

[[WMG: The Targaryens are [[Webcomic/GirlGenius sparks]].]]
It would explain a lot.
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And so the cycle repeats itself, and once again humanity will have a serious choice to make: link the fire one more time, thus postponing the Age of Dark, or giving in to the Night King, who acts out in the name of the Furtive Pygmy. Only difference is, now the Dark Souls has assumed the form of cold for some reason. This might seem like a flaw in the theory, but maybe not. Maybe this is what happens when the Dark Soul also loses its strength, its true essence. Just like the Light Soul becomes dim and weak, the Dark Soul grows colder and colder until the Abyss is not a sea of shadows anymore, but of ice.

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And so the cycle repeats itself, and once again humanity will have a serious choice to make: link the fire one more time, thus postponing the Age of Dark, or giving in to the Night King, who acts out in the name of the Furtive Pygmy. Only difference is, now the Dark Souls Soul has assumed the form of cold for some reason. This might seem like a flaw in the theory, but maybe not. Maybe this is what happens when the Dark Soul also loses its strength, its true essence. Just like the Light Soul becomes dim and weak, the Dark Soul grows colder and colder until the Abyss is not a sea of shadows anymore, but of ice. Or maybe this was its true nature all along, and now Humanity is more powerful than ever.
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* Daenerys dragons awoke because the Lord Souls are failing again, and you know Everlasting sons of guns love that;

And so the cicle repeats itself, and once again humanity will have a serious choice to make: link the fire one more time, thus postponing the Age of Dark, or giving in to the Night King, who acts out in the name of the Furtive Pygmy. Only difference is, now the Dark Souls has assumed the form of cold for some reason. This might seem like a flaw in the theory, but maybe not. Maybe this is what happens when the Dark Soul also loses its strength, its true essence. Just like the Light Soul becomes dim and weak, the Dark Soul grows colder and colder until the Abyss is not a sea of shadows, but of ice.

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* Daenerys Daenerys' dragons awoke because the Lord Souls are failing again, and you know Everlasting sons of guns love that;

And so the cicle cycle repeats itself, and once again humanity will have a serious choice to make: link the fire one more time, thus postponing the Age of Dark, or giving in to the Night King, who acts out in the name of the Furtive Pygmy. Only difference is, now the Dark Souls has assumed the form of cold for some reason. This might seem like a flaw in the theory, but maybe not. Maybe this is what happens when the Dark Soul also loses its strength, its true essence. Just like the Light Soul becomes dim and weak, the Dark Soul grows colder and colder until the Abyss is not a sea of shadows, shadows anymore, but of ice.
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* Some undead humans figured out a way brand people they deem worthy of immortality with the Dark Sign, or whom may need it at a certain point for important roles, like what Thoros did with Beric (and Mel to Jon in the series);

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* Some undead humans figured out a way to brand people they deem worthy of immortality with the Dark Sign, or whom may need it at a certain point for important roles, like what Thoros did with Beric (and Mel to Jon in the series);



And so the cicle repeats, and once again humanity will have a serious choice to make: link the fire one more time, thus postponing the Age of Dark, or giving in to the Night King, who acts out in the name of the Furtive Pygmy. Only difference is, now the Dark Souls has assumed the form of cold for some reason. This might seem like a flaw in the theory, but maybe not. Maybe this is what happens when the Dark Soul also loses its strength, its true essence. Just like the Light Soul becomes dim and weak, the Dark Soul grows colder and colder until the Abyss is not a sea of shadows, but of ice.

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And so the cicle repeats, repeats itself, and once again humanity will have a serious choice to make: link the fire one more time, thus postponing the Age of Dark, or giving in to the Night King, who acts out in the name of the Furtive Pygmy. Only difference is, now the Dark Souls has assumed the form of cold for some reason. This might seem like a flaw in the theory, but maybe not. Maybe this is what happens when the Dark Soul also loses its strength, its true essence. Just like the Light Soul becomes dim and weak, the Dark Soul grows colder and colder until the Abyss is not a sea of shadows, but of ice.
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* Some undead humans figured out a way to pass the curse to people they deem worthy of immortality, or whom may need it at a certain point for important roles, like what Thoros did with Beric (and Mel to Jon in the series);

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* Some undead humans figured out a way to pass the curse to brand people they deem worthy of immortality, immortality with the Dark Sign, or whom may need it at a certain point for important roles, like what Thoros did with Beric (and Mel to Jon in the series);
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Much like how the conquest is based around William the Conqueror, the Dance of the Dragons is based on the Anarchy and of course the current set of books is the War of the Roses, the next detailed point in history will be inspired from the various revolutions and questioning of the monarch itself. Mainly the French and American Revolution. The Americas would be represented by "Northyros", and the religious reformation will be the basis for a lot of the stories between it and A Song Of Ice And Fire.

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Much like how the conquest is based around William the Conqueror, the Dance of the Dragons is based on the Anarchy and of course the current set of books is the War of the Roses, the next detailed point in history will be inspired from the various revolutions and questioning of the monarch itself. Mainly the French and American Revolution. The Americas would be represented by "Northyros", and the religious reformation will be the basis for a lot of the stories between it and A Song Of Ice And Fire.Fire.

[[WMG: Jon Snow or Daenerys, maybe both, will link the First Flame.]]
Time is certainly convoluted in Westeros - as it was in Lordran -, but many have forgotten this fact, especially with the rise and fall of hundreds of kingdoms before it. The undead curse is much less widespread at this point, but still present in non hollow undead like Melisandre, Brinden, Quaith (and Qyburn I think), etc; hollow ones: wights, maybe stone men; as well as other characters who are on different stages of hollowing: white walkers, Beric Dondarion (and then Lady Stoneheart), Ser Robert Strong. So here's some food for thought...
On hollowing/the undead curse:
* Ser Beric Dondarion is clearly suffering from very progressive hollowing;
* Some undead humans figured out a way to pass the curse to people they deem worthy of immortality, or whom may need it at a certain point for important roles, like what Thoros did with Beric (and Mel to Jon in the series);
* That's exactly what Qyburn did to Gregor Clegane, thus why I think he's undead;
* And that's why resurrection is so connected to fire in most instances where it happens. The "magic" Thoros and Mel use is actually them tapping into the last gasps of the Light Soul. He and Mel might be the last people who know about or is somehow connected to Gwyn. I'd go further down the rabbit hole and say Melisandre isn't undead or human at all, but Gwynevere herself or at least a descendant thereof;
* * The Lands of Always Winter is where the Ringed City is, where all the undead, affected and adapted by the extreme cold, are coming from.

On the First Flame and Linking the Fire:
* The Long Night is simply a sign that the First Flame is going out;
* And so, Azor Ahai was the last person who linked the Flame, the last Lord of Cinder;
* The Doom of Valyria is the result of him linking the fire. That's where the Kiln is located;
* Daenerys dragons awoke because the Lord Souls are failing again, and you know Everlasting sons of guns love that;

And so the cicle repeats, and once again humanity will have a serious choice to make: link the fire one more time, thus postponing the Age of Dark, or giving in to the Night King, who acts out in the name of the Furtive Pygmy. Only difference is, now the Dark Souls has assumed the form of cold for some reason. This might seem like a flaw in the theory, but maybe not. Maybe this is what happens when the Dark Soul also loses its strength, its true essence. Just like the Light Soul becomes dim and weak, the Dark Soul grows colder and colder until the Abyss is not a sea of shadows, but of ice.
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[[WMG: George R. R. Martian does NOT hate his characters and his fans. He's an obsessive fan of ''Literature/TheArtOfWar'']]

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[[WMG: George R. R. Martian does NOT hate his characters and his fans. He's an obsessive fan of ''Literature/TheArtOfWar'']]''Literature/{{The Art of War|SunTzu}}'']]
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[[OvertookTheManga George knew the show would wrap up before he's finished]], and reveal one of the biggest secrets-the parentage of Jon Snow. Unless he hasn't even decided it for himself, he's at risk of Jon Snow's parentage being a CaptainObviousReveal. And if he changes it to be a case of NotHisSled, it'll come off as a ShockingSwerve instead. [[TakeAThirdOption He found two alternatives]]. The first is that the it won't be focused on the reveal [[spoiler:that Jon is Lyanna and Rhaegar's son]], but instead the outcome. To keep readers on their toes and because of how the two continuities have diverged, it'll go in a completely different route with how the reveal affects everyone. Other alternative? Jon's parents will be different in the books than in the show. If the other popular theory that Ned and Ashara are Jon's parents is true, then it could mean [[AdaptedOut Ashara's omission]] and the Daynes being much less involved in the show might be intentional to conceal that secret.

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[[OvertookTheManga George knew the show would wrap up before he's finished]], and reveal one of the biggest secrets-the parentage of Jon Snow. Unless he hasn't even decided it for himself, he's at risk of Jon Snow's parentage being a CaptainObviousReveal. And if he changes it to be a case of NotHisSled, it'll come off as a ShockingSwerve instead. [[TakeAThirdOption He found two alternatives]]. The first is that the it won't be focused on the reveal [[spoiler:that Jon is Lyanna and Rhaegar's son]], but instead the outcome. To keep readers on their toes and because of how the two continuities have diverged, it'll go in a completely different route with how the reveal affects everyone. Other alternative? Jon's parents will be different in the books than in the show. If the other popular theory that Ned and Ashara are Jon's parents is true, then it could mean [[AdaptedOut Ashara's omission]] and the Daynes being much less involved in the show might be intentional to conceal that secret.secret.

[[WMG: If there's a series set in the future(that's not a direct sequel), it'll be based around the 18th century.]]
Much like how the conquest is based around William the Conqueror, the Dance of the Dragons is based on the Anarchy and of course the current set of books is the War of the Roses, the next detailed point in history will be inspired from the various revolutions and questioning of the monarch itself. Mainly the French and American Revolution. The Americas would be represented by "Northyros", and the religious reformation will be the basis for a lot of the stories between it and A Song Of Ice And Fire.
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He will reveal himself to the few main surviving characters at the end, and that he orchestrated their entire world to be as interesting as possible for an unseen audience not knowing that what they're reading about is actually happening. Obviously, these characters are freaked out by this revelation as they're forced to board Varys's helicopter that takes them back to Earth. Perhaps there's another Westeros for the TV show, where everything is recorded and broadcast, like The Hunger Games.

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He will reveal himself to the few main surviving characters at the end, and that he orchestrated their entire world to be as interesting as possible for an unseen audience not knowing that what they're reading about is actually happening. Obviously, these characters are freaked out by this revelation as they're forced to board Varys's helicopter that takes them back to Earth. Perhaps there's another Westeros for the TV show, where everything is recorded and broadcast, like The Hunger Games.Games.

[[WMG: GRRM lied about Jon Snow's parentage to the producers of Series/GameOfThrones, or just gave the broad details.]]
[[OvertookTheManga George knew the show would wrap up before he's finished]], and reveal one of the biggest secrets-the parentage of Jon Snow. Unless he hasn't even decided it for himself, he's at risk of Jon Snow's parentage being a CaptainObviousReveal. And if he changes it to be a case of NotHisSled, it'll come off as a ShockingSwerve instead. [[TakeAThirdOption He found two alternatives]]. The first is that the it won't be focused on the reveal [[spoiler:that Jon is Lyanna and Rhaegar's son]], but instead the outcome. To keep readers on their toes and because of how the two continuities have diverged, it'll go in a completely different route with how the reveal affects everyone. Other alternative? Jon's parents will be different in the books than in the show. If the other popular theory that Ned and Ashara are Jon's parents is true, then it could mean [[AdaptedOut Ashara's omission]] and the Daynes being much less involved in the show might be intentional to conceal that secret.
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[[WMG: ''TheRoad'' is a distant future sequel to A Song of Ice and Fire.]]

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[[WMG: ''TheRoad'' ''Literature/TheRoad'' is a distant future sequel to A Song of Ice and Fire.]]
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* Ironically, the seeds for this may have been planted from the start. The very first chapter introduces the White Walkers, who are unambiguously evil, who eventually will march on Westeros, killing everyone regardless of faction. Against such a threat, there's basically two options: either enough groups will form an alliance, however temporary, and work together to drive them off; or they don't, and the whole War of the Five Kings will prove to be a ShaggyDogStory. The ''first'' kind of magic seen will, if encountered, cause a BlackAndWhiteMorality paradigm against them in an otherwise GreyAndGreyMorality world.


[[WMG: Sam is an {{Expy}} of George R.R. Martin]]

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[[WMG: Sam is an {{Expy}} of based on George R.R. Martin]]



* Sam seems more like an Expy of [[Literature/TheLordOfTheRings Samwise Gamgee]] than anything.

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* Sam seems more like an Expy of based on [[Literature/TheLordOfTheRings Samwise Gamgee]] than anything.



** Unlikely, given that GRRM has a pretty obvious Arthur {{Expy}} in Ser Arthur Dayne, the Sword of the Morning.

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** Unlikely, given that GRRM has a pretty obvious character similar to Arthur {{Expy}} in Ser Arthur Dayne, the Sword of the Morning.
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*** And the Wall was built by Donald Trump.
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* A C'Tan shard may be the Great Other.
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[[WMG: Dolorous Edd is an alternate universe [[SayonaraZetsubouSensei Nozomu Itoshiki]]]]

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[[WMG: Dolorous Edd is an alternate universe [[SayonaraZetsubouSensei [[Manga/SayonaraZetsubouSensei Nozomu Itoshiki]]]]
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* So when he gets back from his ranging [[GoodAllAlong he'll be on Jon's side?]]
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The One Ring = The Iron Throne

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The One Ring = The Iron ThroneThrone

[[WMG: Westeros actually exists, and George RR Martin is Varys]]
He will reveal himself to the few main surviving characters at the end, and that he orchestrated their entire world to be as interesting as possible for an unseen audience not knowing that what they're reading about is actually happening. Obviously, these characters are freaked out by this revelation as they're forced to board Varys's helicopter that takes them back to Earth. Perhaps there's another Westeros for the TV show, where everything is recorded and broadcast, like The Hunger Games.
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[[WMG: At the end of the series, Khaleesi will marry Jack Sparrow from ''PiratesOfTheCaribbean.'']]

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[[WMG: At the end of the series, Khaleesi will marry Jack Sparrow from ''PiratesOfTheCaribbean.''Franchise/PiratesOfTheCaribbean.'']]

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Nazghuls = Dragons\\

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Nazghuls The Fell Beasts = Dragons\\The Dragons\\
The Nazgul = Jorah Mormont, Grey Worm, Daario Naharis\\
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Winter is satire, but again slightly different than our definition, it isn't funny but rather social critique, like dystopian stories where you can mock the social order but have no real chance of defeating it. Which doesn't bode well for book 6.

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Winter is satire, but again slightly different than our definition, it isn't funny but rather social critique, like dystopian stories where you can mock the social order but have no real chance of defeating it. Which doesn't bode well for book 6.6.

[[WMG: The entire series is a {{Realpolitik}} version of Literature/TheLordOfTheRings]]
Treesicle's [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxG03oBY5zU video]] was the initial inspiration, and [[Fanfic/MassEffectHumanRevolution IgnusDei]] had a brainwave; if Dany is Sauron, she has direct analogues for ''all'' of his forces;
*Orks = Dothraki\\
Corsairs of Umbar = Iron Islanders\\
Haradrim = Dornishmen\\
Uruk-Hai = The Unsullied\\
Nazghuls = Dragons\\
Saruman = Varys\\
The Mouth of Sauron = The Hand of the Queen AKA Tyrion Lannister\\
The One Ring = The Iron Throne
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!! These are Wild Mass Guesses for ''ASongOfIceAndFire'' which cover meta-theories and theories about crossovers with other works of fiction or mythology

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!! These are Wild Mass Guesses for ''ASongOfIceAndFire'' ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire'' which cover meta-theories and theories about crossovers with other works of fiction or mythology
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* George was searching for historical mercenary groups and came upon the janisseries. He took the most famous, Gjergj Kastriot and Vlad Tepes and mashed them. Kastrot by the way wore a goat head helmet and his traditional garb was incorporated with a link of coins. He rode under false pretenses in a castle and took control of it. The castle was atop the peak of a mountain above the "vale" next to a stream said to be the tears of a maiden, but that's another thing.

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* George was searching for historical mercenary groups and came upon the janisseries. He took the most famous, Gjergj Kastriot and Vlad Tepes and mashed them. Kastrot by the way wore a goat head helmet and his traditional garb was incorporated with a link of coins. He rode under false pretenses in a castle and took control of it. The castle was atop the peak of a mountain above the "vale" next to a stream said to be the tears of a maiden, but that's another thing.thing.

[[WMG: The entire series plus the Dunk and Egg tales are inspired by Northrop Frye's Theory of Archetypes]]
For anyone who's not familiar with the theory, Frye believed that Western literature falls into four main genres: comedy, romance, tragedy, and satire; and each of these correspond with one of the seasons: spring, summer, autumn, and winter.

Spring is comedy, defined as a story where the menace is relatively minor and the younger generation/lower class triumph fairly easily and the bad guys get their comeuppance. The first two Dunk and Egg tales, which are the most upbeat of their stories, take place in late spring. The tourney where Rhaegar and Lyanna meet and everything starts going to crap took place during the "false spring," where it seemed like things were going to be happily ever after but in fact winter was about to arrive again (making it actually an autumn, i.e. a tragedy).

Summer is romance, not the love-story kind but the battle between good and evil kind, where good wins but only through great sacrifice. The third Dunk and Egg story takes place in the summer and features the Blackfyre rebellion and a (metaphorical) dragon slaying.

Autumn is tragedy, where the hero's own flaws lead to their downfall. The first five books are all set during autumn, and hoo boy are they ever tragedies.

Winter is satire, but again slightly different than our definition, it isn't funny but rather social critique, like dystopian stories where you can mock the social order but have no real chance of defeating it. Which doesn't bode well for book 6.
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* Sam seems more like an Expy of [[Literature/LordOfTheRings Samwise Gamgee]] than anything.

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* Sam seems more like an Expy of [[Literature/LordOfTheRings [[Literature/TheLordOfTheRings Samwise Gamgee]] than anything.
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[[WMG: There is a world in which [[DowntonAbbey Violet Crawley]] and Olenna Redwyn-Tyrell have met.]]

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[[WMG: There is a world in which [[DowntonAbbey [[Series/DowntonAbbey Violet Crawley]] and Olenna Redwyn-Tyrell have met.]]



[[WMG: Several Series/HarryPotter and Series/DowntonAbbey characters ended up in Westeros after the series ended]]

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[[WMG: Several Series/HarryPotter ''Series/HarryPotter'' and Series/DowntonAbbey ''Series/DowntonAbbey'' characters ended up in Westeros after the series ended]]
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* ...by a kindergarten teacher in modern-day America named Edward Snow. In his classroom, he has this really comfortable armchair that all his students love. That day, a whole bunch of kids want to sit there at the same time. Edward explains that they have to take turns, but the kids refuse, and the whole thing devolves into a mess of hitting, shoving, yelling, crying, and screaming. That night, exhausted from the armchair mess, Edward dreams about it--except now all the kids who wanted to sit in the armchair are grown lords and ladies claiming to be the heirs to an Iron Throne in a fantasy land called Westeros. The last chapter will be Edward's POV, and he will wake up to his alarm, mutter "What a weird dream," get out of bed, and proceed with his morning. The last sentence will be something like, "He got in his car and readied himself for another day of armchair-wanting madness."

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* ...by a kindergarten teacher in modern-day America named Edward Snow. In his classroom, he has this really comfortable armchair that all his students love. That day, a whole bunch of kids want to sit there at the same time. Edward explains that they have to take turns, but the kids refuse, and the whole thing devolves into a mess of hitting, shoving, yelling, crying, and screaming. That night, exhausted from the armchair mess, Edward dreams about it--except now all the kids who wanted to sit in the armchair are grown lords and ladies claiming to be the heirs to an Iron Throne in a fantasy land called Westeros. The last chapter will be Edward's POV, and he will wake up to his alarm, mutter "What a weird dream," get out of bed, and proceed with his morning. The last sentence will be something like, "He got in his car and readied himself for another day of armchair-wanting madness.""

[[WMG: Vargo Hoat was created thusly]]
*George was searching for historical mercenary groups and came upon the janisseries. He took the most famous, Gjergj Kastriot and Vlad Tepes and mashed them. Kastrot by the way wore a goat head helmet and his traditional garb was incorporated with a link of coins. He rode under false pretenses in a castle and took control of it. The castle was atop the peak of a mountain above the "vale" next to a stream said to be the tears of a maiden, but that's another thing.
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* The landmasses are bigger because the gourmet meteor hit earth and started growing around it. The sunset lands are the gourmet world. Did you think the long-winded description of food was was a coincidence!? This would make the Others evil ice cream.

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* The landmasses are bigger because the gourmet meteor hit earth and started growing around it. The sunset lands are the gourmet world. Did you think the long-winded description of food was was a coincidence!? This would make the Others evil ice cream.cream.

[[WMG: It will turn out to be all just a dream...]]
* ...by a kindergarten teacher in modern-day America named Edward Snow. In his classroom, he has this really comfortable armchair that all his students love. That day, a whole bunch of kids want to sit there at the same time. Edward explains that they have to take turns, but the kids refuse, and the whole thing devolves into a mess of hitting, shoving, yelling, crying, and screaming. That night, exhausted from the armchair mess, Edward dreams about it--except now all the kids who wanted to sit in the armchair are grown lords and ladies claiming to be the heirs to an Iron Throne in a fantasy land called Westeros. The last chapter will be Edward's POV, and he will wake up to his alarm, mutter "What a weird dream," get out of bed, and proceed with his morning. The last sentence will be something like, "He got in his car and readied himself for another day of armchair-wanting madness."
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* Theon will tell how he escaped by summoning a shadow baby that opened the gates of Winterfell like he used to open the bodices of poor serving wenches with a cry of arrivedeci, the shadow is called Missing Sticky Fingers. Meanwhile at the wall Mel will don a top hat made of patchface's erm face and teach Jon how to use the power of the ultimate fire, the sun, to face the Others by sending ripples throw his kingsblood. At the same time Jon and Jojen start to show a star birthmark on the shoulder.

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* Theon will tell how he escaped by summoning a shadow baby that opened the gates of Winterfell like he used to open the bodices of poor serving wenches with a cry of arrivedeci, the shadow is called Missing Sticky Fingers. Meanwhile at the wall Mel will don a top hat made of patchface's erm face and teach Jon how to use the power of the ultimate fire, the sun, to face the Others by sending ripples throw his kingsblood. At the same time Jon and Jojen start to show a star birthmark on the shoulder.shoulder.

[[WMG: Planetos is earth, but its the earth of the manga Toriko]]
* The landmasses are bigger because the gourmet meteor hit earth and started growing around it. The sunset lands are the gourmet world. Did you think the long-winded description of food was was a coincidence!? This would make the Others evil ice cream.
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[[WMG: The hooded man is part of Theon]]
* Theon will tell how he escaped by summoning a shadow baby that opened the gates of Winterfell like he used to open the bodices of poor serving wenches with a cry of arrivedeci, the shadow is called Missing Sticky Fingers. Meanwhile at the wall Mel will don a top hat made of patchface's erm face and teach Jon how to use the power of the ultimate fire, the sun, to face the Others by sending ripples throw his kingsblood. At the same time Jon and Jojen start to show a star birthmark on the shoulder.
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* It's actually the 629th layer of the Abyss, which explains the [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/CrapsackWorld a lot about the setting]].

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* It's actually the 629th layer of the Abyss, which explains the [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/CrapsackWorld a lot about the setting]].setting]].

[[WMG: Westeros is actually Charn in the past]]
*There are mentions of dragons used as a way of transport, probably Targaryen dragons.
*Jadis and the Royal Family of Charn are said to have giant's blood.
*The Others won, and explaining why Jadis was able to conjure a hundred years winter: she's a host of the Great Other.
*The Royal Family of Charn is said to have a long story of civil wars, treason, fratricide and general bloodshed that dated back to its very origins.
*There are mentions of faraway kingdoms that traded with Charn with exotic freight goods (the Eastern Lands)
*The pitch black sky, the big red and cold sun and the little white star are all a consequence of the coming of the second Long Night.

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