History VisualNovel / AceAttorneyInvestigationsMilesEdgeworth

29th Nov '16 12:36:10 PM dotchan
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* ParrotExposition: You could make a drinking game out of the times somebody repeats a key word or phrase in the form of a question. (In the form of a question?)
27th Nov '16 3:40:00 PM Chariset
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** Remember Gregory Edgeworth? [[spoiler:Killed by von Karma? You get to play as him in case 3 of the sequel and find out what ''really'' inspired von Karma to do the deed]].

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** Remember Gregory Edgeworth? [[spoiler:Killed by von Karma? You get to play as him in case 3 of the sequel and find out what ''really'' inspired von Karma to do the deed]].take his life.



** Subverted in [[spoiler: Case 3]]. The [[spoiler:present portion of the]] case seemingly has no victim, until a body is found. [[spoiler: Turns out, it's the same victim from 18 years ago, whose body was never found]].
* AmoralAttorney: [[spoiler:Blaise Debeste]], the Chief Prosecutor. In addition to his present-day jackassery, he also turns out to have been the instigator of DL-6 (indirectly) and the prosecutor who disgraced the Lang family.
* AndNowForSomeoneCompletelyDifferent: Case 3 has you [[spoiler:switching between Gregory and Miles Edgeworth]].

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** Subverted in [[spoiler: Case 3]]. The [[spoiler:present present portion of the]] the case seemingly has no victim, until a body is found. [[spoiler: Turns out, it's the same victim from 18 years ago, whose body was never found]].
* AmoralAttorney: [[spoiler:Blaise Debeste]], the former Chief Prosecutor.Prosecutor and current head of the P.I.C. In addition to his present-day jackassery, he also turns out to have been the instigator of DL-6 (indirectly) and the prosecutor who disgraced the Lang family.
* AndNowForSomeoneCompletelyDifferent: Case 3 has you [[spoiler:switching switching between Gregory and Miles Edgeworth]].Edgeworth.



* DistressedDude: [[spoiler:Sebastian]] in case 5 of [=AAI2=] is [[AccidentalKidnapping accidentally kidnapped]] by [[spoiler:his father's men]] when he's mistaken for [[spoiler:Courtney's son]]. Kay and Edgeworth find him BoundAndGagged [[spoiler:''in his own house'']] while investigating and have to free him. He's pretty heavily traumatized by the incident, [[spoiler:especially since it serves to remind him of how powerless he perceives himself to be after his father [[KickTheDog called him useless and stupid]]]], and it's up to Edgeworth to get him back on his feet.
* DownerEnding: The past portion of Case 3 in the sequel, due to ForegoneConclusion. [[spoiler:At least knowing von Karma will get his comeuppance eventually makes it better]].

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* DistressedDude: [[spoiler:Sebastian]] in case 5 of [=AAI2=] is [[AccidentalKidnapping accidentally kidnapped]] by [[spoiler:his father's men]] when he's mistaken for [[spoiler:Courtney's son]]. another boy. Kay and Edgeworth find him BoundAndGagged [[spoiler:''in ''in his own house'']] house'' while investigating and have to free him. He's pretty heavily traumatized by the incident, [[spoiler:especially since it serves to remind him of how powerless he perceives himself to be after his father [[KickTheDog called him useless and stupid]]]], and it's up to Edgeworth to get him back on his feet.
* DownerEnding: The past It's a ForegoneConclusion that the flashback portion of Case 3 in the sequel, due isn't going to ForegoneConclusion. [[spoiler:At least knowing end well. Fortunately, von Karma will get his comeuppance eventually makes it better]].Karma's eventual downfall is also established in canon.



** TheSmartGuy -- Franziska von Karma and [[spoiler:Gregory Edgeworth]]

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** TheSmartGuy -- Franziska von Karma and [[spoiler:Gregory Edgeworth]]Gregory Edgeworth



** SixthRanger -- [[spoiler:Shi-Long Lang]]
* {{Flashback}}: [[spoiler:Part of Case 3 is a flashback played from Gregory's perspective]].
* ForegoneConclusion: [[spoiler:Victory in the second game's third case seems shallow when you're already aware that it's the very case that results in the first stain on Manfred von Karma's record and subsequently his killing Gregory Edgeworth. Integrated into the gameplay. The point of final, big confrontation of Gregory's segment is not proving who the killer is, but proving von Karma forged evidence]].

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** SixthRanger -- [[spoiler:Shi-Long Lang]]
Shi-Long Lang
* {{Flashback}}: [[spoiler:Part Part of Case 3 is a flashback played from Gregory's perspective]].
perspective.
* ForegoneConclusion: [[spoiler:Victory Victory in the second game's third case seems shallow when you're already aware that it's the very case that results in the first puts a stain on Manfred von Karma's spotless record and subsequently his killing drives him to murder Gregory Edgeworth. Integrated into With that established, the gameplay. The point of final, big confrontation of Gregory's segment is not proving who the killer is, but proving von Karma forged evidence]].evidence.



* GreaterScopeVillain: Played with. The corrupt organization encompassing [[spoiler:chief prosecutor Blaise Debeste, prison warden Patricia Roland and Zheng Fa "president" (really body double) Di-Juan Huang]] is ''significantly'' and obviously more powerful, influential and menacing than the game's actual BigBad [[spoiler:Simon Keyes]], but they aren't the ones who drive and instigate the main conflict. [[spoiler:In fact, he ends up destroying them all behind the scenes, thus technically elevating himself to a similar scope.]]

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* GreaterScopeVillain: Played with. The corrupt organization encompassing [[spoiler:chief prosecutor [[spoiler:P.I.C. head Blaise Debeste, prison warden Patricia Roland and Zheng Fa "president" (really body double) Di-Juan Huang]] is ''significantly'' and obviously more powerful, influential and menacing than the game's actual BigBad [[spoiler:Simon Keyes]], but they aren't the ones who drive and instigate the main conflict. [[spoiler:In fact, he ends up destroying them all behind the scenes, thus technically elevating himself to a similar scope.]]



** [[spoiler:Miles Edgeworth's text box refers to him as "Edgeworth", despite the presence of his father, Gregory Edgeworth, in case 3.]]



** Ray constantly makes mention of the similarities between both Edgeworths. The game even allows the player to [[spoiler: play as Gregory in the third case, who makes the same remarks as Miles in multiple situations. They even have the exact same opinion about Katherine's desserts being too sweet for the taste]].

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** Ray constantly makes mention of the similarities between both Edgeworths. The game even allows the player to [[spoiler: play as Gregory in the third case, who makes the same remarks as Miles in multiple situations. They even have the exact same opinion about Katherine's desserts being too sweet for the taste]].their taste.



* MiscarriageOfJustice: [[spoiler:Jeff Masters. He confesses to the crime because the prosecution threatens to charge Katherine for being an accomplice. Gregory Edgeworth is able to prove that the confession was coerced, but is unable to prove that the body was falsified due to Blaise Debeste's coverup]].

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* MiscarriageOfJustice: [[spoiler:Jeff Masters.Masters]]. He confesses to the crime because the prosecution threatens to charge Katherine for being an accomplice. Gregory Edgeworth is able to prove that the confession was coerced, but is unable to prove that the body was falsified due to Blaise Debeste's coverup]].a coverup in the higher ranks of the prosecutor's office.



* MysteriousWaif: The "Mysterious Girl" brought to Edgeworth's office in Case 4. [[spoiler: She is very quickly revealed to be an [[LaserGuidedAmnesia amnesiac]] Kay Faraday]].
* NeverSpeakIllOfTheDead: When [[spoiler:Knightley in the first case]] speaks ill of his fallen co-worker, almost everyone believes he's crossed the MoralEventHorizon by doing so.

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* MysteriousWaif: The "Mysterious Girl" brought to Edgeworth's office in Case 4. [[spoiler: She is very quickly revealed to be an [[LaserGuidedAmnesia [[EasyAmnesia amnesiac]] Kay Faraday]].
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* NeverSpeakIllOfTheDead: When [[spoiler:Knightley Knightley in the first case]] case speaks ill of his fallen co-worker, almost everyone believes he's crossed the MoralEventHorizon by doing so.



* OriginsEpisode: [[spoiler:Remember the trial where Manfred von Karma got his first penalty? The IS-7 incident is what the trial was about]].

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* OriginsEpisode: [[spoiler:Remember Remember the trial where Manfred von Karma got his first penalty? The IS-7 incident is what the trial was about]].about.



* SoundtrackDissonance: It seemed odd that the heroic and noble Great Revival heralds the arrival of [[spoiler:Manfred von Karma. Out of a fairy cake house, nonetheless]].

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* SoundtrackDissonance: It seemed odd that the heroic and noble Great Revival heralds the arrival of [[spoiler:Manfred Manfred von Karma. Out of a fairy cake house, nonetheless]].fairytale castle made of sweets, even.



* TemptingFate: In Case 3, Ray says that von Karma reminds him of [[SadistTeacher an old schoolteacher of his]]. Gregory Edgeworth then comments via inner monologue that he would hate to have his son being taught by someone like von Karma...
* ThatOneCase: IS-7, [[spoiler: the case where Gregory caused Manfred von Karma to get a penalty]]. Then there's also SS-5, [[spoiler:the case where Lang's reputation got tarnished]].

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* TemptingFate: In Case 3, Ray says that von Karma reminds him of [[SadistTeacher an old schoolteacher of his]]. Gregory Edgeworth then comments via in his inner monologue that he would hate to have his son being taught by someone like von Karma...
* ThatOneCase: IS-7, [[spoiler: the case where Gregory caused Manfred von Karma to get a penalty]]. penalty. Then there's also SS-5, [[spoiler:the the case where Lang's the Lang family's reputation got tarnished]].was tarnished.



** IS-7 turns out to be the case that led to [[spoiler: Manfred Von Karma getting his first penalty from Gregory Edgeworth. This resulted in DL-6 and set up a whole host of problems for many characters in the series.]]

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** In the IS-7 turns out to be incident, an innocent person unknowingly manipulated the case that led crime scene, leading the Chief Prosecutor at the time to [[spoiler: forge evidence (because [[spoiler:the victim's body]] had gone missing) and then stick Manfred Von von Karma getting his first penalty from Gregory Edgeworth.with a penalty. This resulted in DL-6 and set up a whole host of problems for many characters in the series.]] The case's murderer could also be considered this, but he at least knew he was doing a despicable deed.



* WordAssociationTest: Has elements of it. [[spoiler:To kickstart Kay's memories, Edgeworth gives a chance for her to repeat after him. It turns into this trope.]]

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* WordAssociationTest: Has elements of it. [[spoiler:To To kickstart Kay's memories, Edgeworth gives a chance for her to repeat after him. It turns into this trope.]]



[[spoiler:'''Kay''':]] [{{beat}}] ''...Broken safe.''\\

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[[spoiler:'''Kay''':]] '''Kay''': [{{beat}}] ''...Broken safe.''\\



[[spoiler:'''Kay''':]] ''...Stolen goods.''\\

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[[spoiler:'''Kay''':]] '''Kay''': ''...Stolen goods.''\\



[[spoiler:'''Kay''':]] ''...Crooks on the lam.''\\

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[[spoiler:'''Kay''':]] '''Kay''': ''...Crooks on the lam.''\\



[[spoiler:'''Kay''':]] [cowering] ''...Snatched loot of the Great Thief.''\\

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[[spoiler:'''Kay''':]] '''Kay''': [cowering] ''...Snatched loot of the Great Thief.''\\



** In case 4, [[spoiler:Edgeworth repeatedly does this to an amnesiac Kay who thinks she killed someone and just can't remember]].

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** In case 4, [[spoiler:Edgeworth Edgeworth repeatedly does this to an amnesiac Kay who thinks she killed someone and just can't remember]].remember.
24th Nov '16 7:08:26 AM Chariset
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*ShooTheDog: In case 4, Kay tries to drive Edgeworth away, believing that she's a criminal ruining the life of a good man. He doesn't listen. Edgeworth, in turn, prevents Gumshoe from following him when he surrenders his badge rather than remain a prosecutor in an ''openly'' corrupt system.
23rd Nov '16 6:37:53 AM Chariset
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*ActingYourIntellectualAge: Judging from Gregory Edgeworth's comments, Miles was stoic and serious even as a kid. His father even laments that he'd rather read law books than fairy tales, and that it seems unlikely he'll be able to get along with kids his own age.



* DarkerAndEdgier: The game has many instances of corruption in the series' justice system and the first and last cases feature [[spoiler: a case of political corruption as well]]. The biggest of these instances is [[spoiler: Blaise Debeste]] who manages to put every other AmoralAttorney in the series to shame with his corrupt actions and sends Edgeworth into a HeroicBSOD and a 10MinuteRetirement as a result. Then there is the game's BigBad who is a WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds in contrast to the sociopathic and LargeHam villains in past games.

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* DarkerAndEdgier: The game has many instances of corruption in the series' justice system and the first and last cases feature [[spoiler: a case of political corruption as well]]. The biggest of these instances is [[spoiler: Blaise Debeste]] who manages to put every other AmoralAttorney in the series to shame with his corrupt actions and sends Edgeworth into a HeroicBSOD and a 10MinuteRetirement TenMinuteRetirement as a result. Then there is the game's BigBad who is a WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds in contrast to the sociopathic and LargeHam villains in past games.



** Given Courtney's age, it's simply not possible that she could have [[spoiler:had a child]]. Then "The Grand Turnabout" rolls around, and you find out that she didn't.

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** Given Courtney's age, it's simply not possible that she could have [[spoiler:had [[spoiler:be the mother of a child]]. teenage boy]]. Then "The Grand Turnabout" rolls around, and you find out that she didn't.isn't.
21st Nov '16 3:39:29 PM Chariset
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* FriendOnTheForce: Detective Gumshoe more than usual in this game; when JurisdictionFriction forces Edgeworth out of the official investigation, Gumshoe (reluctantly) assists Debeste but passes any useful information on to Edgeworth and Raymond Shields. Detective Badd played a similar role for Gregory Edgeworth in the IS-7 incident, for similar reasons.
21st Nov '16 12:16:52 PM mario0987
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** IS-7 turns out to be the case that led to [[spoiler: Manfred Von Karma getting his first penalty from Gregory Edgeworth. This resulted in DL-6 and set up the events of the first game.]]
** Isaac Dover's son [[spoiler: prevented Simon Keyes from helping his father in IS-7. This lead to the series of events that turned him into the villain he is.]]

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** IS-7 turns out to be the case that led to [[spoiler: Manfred Von Karma getting his first penalty from Gregory Edgeworth. This resulted in DL-6 and set up a whole host of problems for many characters in the events of the first game.series.]]
** Isaac Dover's son [[spoiler: prevented Simon Keyes from helping his father in IS-7. This lead to the series of events that turned him into made Keyes manipulate the villain he is.present day events.]]
21st Nov '16 11:50:13 AM mario0987
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* [[BigBadEnsemble Bigger Bad Ensemble]]: See GreaterScopeVillain below.

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* [[BigBadEnsemble Bigger Bad Ensemble]]: See GreaterScopeVillain below.BigBad: [[spoiler: Simon Keyes]]


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* DarkerAndEdgier: The game has many instances of corruption in the series' justice system and the first and last cases feature [[spoiler: a case of political corruption as well]]. The biggest of these instances is [[spoiler: Blaise Debeste]] who manages to put every other AmoralAttorney in the series to shame with his corrupt actions and sends Edgeworth into a HeroicBSOD and a 10MinuteRetirement as a result. Then there is the game's BigBad who is a WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds in contrast to the sociopathic and LargeHam villains in past games.


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* UnwittingInstigatorOfDoom:
** IS-7 turns out to be the case that led to [[spoiler: Manfred Von Karma getting his first penalty from Gregory Edgeworth. This resulted in DL-6 and set up the events of the first game.]]
** Isaac Dover's son [[spoiler: prevented Simon Keyes from helping his father in IS-7. This lead to the series of events that turned him into the villain he is.]]
19th Nov '16 10:38:54 PM TaylorHyuuga
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** At one point in the game, Simon says that he doesn't like sweets. [[spoiler:Gee, I wonder why]].
19th Nov '16 8:11:13 PM TaylorHyuuga
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* WhamLine: A great one in Case 4, signifying [[spoiler:Courtney's HeelFaceTurn]].
-->'''Courtney''': The defendant.... [[spoiler:Blaise Debeste! I hereby indict you!]]
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* BeAllMySinsRemembered: Edgeworth's checkered past as Von Karma's disciple haunts him for most of the game, especially when Raymond Shields returns and he comes under suspicion by the P.I.C. He is pretty much the only one who doesn't bristle at "Uncle Ray's" bitter anger toward him, since it's understandable that someone who worked with Gregory Edgeworth would be consider him a traitor.

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* BeAllMySinsRemembered: Edgeworth's checkered past as Von Manfred von Karma's disciple haunts him for most of the game, especially when Raymond Shields returns and he comes under suspicion by the P.I.C. He is pretty much the only one who doesn't bristle at "Uncle Ray's" bitter anger toward him, since it's understandable Shields had every reason to feel that someone who worked with he had betrayed his father Gregory Edgeworth would be consider him a traitor.by joining Von Karma.
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