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23rd Apr '16 7:26:55 PM Matt620
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** [[spoiler:Justine Courtney]] undertakes a number of unethical and even illegal actions, and never receives any comeuppance. While part of it deals with her job on the P.I.C, it comes to a head in the 4th case, when she accepts a confession from [[spoiler:Kay, who is medically verified to have amnesia and is thus unreliable; she also illegally rejects evidence that places reasonable suspicion on her as the killer]], which would have removed her from any authority on the case, [[spoiler:as it eventually does in the fifth case when she is actually the prime suspect]]. [[spoiler:She's not the killer in either case, but her excuse for not murdering Jill Crane is "I'm a judge, so I couldn't do it."]]

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** [[spoiler:Justine Courtney]] undertakes a number of unethical and even illegal actions, and never receives any comeuppance. While part of it deals with her job on the P.I.C, it comes to a head in the 4th case, when she accepts a confession from [[spoiler:Kay, who is medically verified to have amnesia and is thus unreliable; she amnesic at the time.]] She also illegally rejects evidence that places reasonable suspicion on her as the killer]], killer, which would have removed her from any authority on the case, [[spoiler:as it eventually does in the fifth case when she is actually the initial prime suspect]]. [[spoiler:She's not the killer in either case, but her excuse for not murdering Jill Crane is "I'm a judge, so I couldn't do it."]]"]] She also introduces a piece of fabricated evidence, which got Phoenix disbarred. When coupled with the fact that she had the opportunity to commit the murder, any reasonable person could conclude she was trying to throw off the police. But she gets away with it scot-free.
17th Apr '16 8:02:07 AM universalperson
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** A boy with strange headgear makes brief appearances in the third and fourth case. He enters the plot in the fifth one.
11th Apr '16 9:13:11 PM quietThunderstorm
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* VideogameCrueltyPotential: During the logic chess segments, you get the opportunity to say some ''really'' hurtful things to your opponents. [[VideogameCrueltyPunishment Doing so will usually give you a penalty]]. In particular, while playing logic chess against [[spoiler:Sebastian]], if you choose [[KickTheDog "You are a failure as a human being!"]], you instantly receive a 100% penalty.

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* VideogameCrueltyPotential: During the logic chess segments, you get the opportunity to say some ''really'' hurtful things to your opponents. [[VideogameCrueltyPunishment Doing so will usually give you a penalty]]. In particular, while playing logic chess against [[spoiler:Sebastian]], if you choose [[KickTheDog "You are a failure as a human being!"]], person!"]], you instantly receive a 100% penalty.time penalty, and a loss of part of the health bar.
10th Apr '16 6:02:34 PM universalperson
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** The flashback cases are full of this from the player's point of view (and no doubt a FunnyAneurysmMoment from the point of view of the characters): for example, when [[spoiler:von Karma tells Miles that he must become a famous prosecutor because "otherwise, it wouldn't be ''interesting''"]], Miles seems to take this as reassurance, whereas any player who's followed the AA series will realize that this is some rather ominous foreshadowing of [[spoiler:Case 4 in the first ''Ace Attorney'' game]]. There's also one example that doubles as {{Forshadowing}}: Edgeworth says that no man is above the law. [[spoiler: von Karma]] disagrees, saying there are people like that. To the player who knows [[spoiler: von Karma killed Edgeworth's father]], the implication is that the speaker is referring to himself. However, the very next case in Investigations deals with a criminal [[spoiler: who hides behind his [[DiplomaticImpunity diplomatic immunity]]]], making him "above the law".

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** The flashback cases are full of this from the player's point of view (and no doubt a FunnyAneurysmMoment from the point of view of the characters): for example, when [[spoiler:von Karma tells Miles that he must become a famous prosecutor because "otherwise, it wouldn't be ''interesting''"]], Miles seems to take this as reassurance, whereas any player who's followed the AA series will realize that this is some rather ominous foreshadowing of [[spoiler:Case 4 in the first ''Ace Attorney'' game]]. There's also one example that doubles as {{Forshadowing}}: {{Foreshadowing}}: Edgeworth says that no man is above the law. [[spoiler: von Karma]] disagrees, saying there are people like that. To the player who knows [[spoiler: von Karma killed Edgeworth's father]], the implication is that the speaker is referring to himself. However, the very next case in Investigations deals with a criminal [[spoiler: who hides behind his [[DiplomaticImpunity diplomatic immunity]]]], making him "above the law".
10th Apr '16 6:02:06 PM universalperson
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** The flashback cases are full of this from the player's point of view (and no doubt a FunnyAneurysmMoment from the point of view of the characters): for example, when [[spoiler:von Karma tells Miles that he must become a famous prosecutor because "otherwise, it wouldn't be ''interesting''"]], Miles seems to take this as reassurance, whereas any player who's followed the AA series will realize that this is some rather ominous foreshadowing of [[spoiler:Case 4 in the first ''Ace Attorney'' game]].

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** The flashback cases are full of this from the player's point of view (and no doubt a FunnyAneurysmMoment from the point of view of the characters): for example, when [[spoiler:von Karma tells Miles that he must become a famous prosecutor because "otherwise, it wouldn't be ''interesting''"]], Miles seems to take this as reassurance, whereas any player who's followed the AA series will realize that this is some rather ominous foreshadowing of [[spoiler:Case 4 in the first ''Ace Attorney'' game]]. There's also one example that doubles as {{Forshadowing}}: Edgeworth says that no man is above the law. [[spoiler: von Karma]] disagrees, saying there are people like that. To the player who knows [[spoiler: von Karma killed Edgeworth's father]], the implication is that the speaker is referring to himself. However, the very next case in Investigations deals with a criminal [[spoiler: who hides behind his [[DiplomaticImpunity diplomatic immunity]]]], making him "above the law".
18th Mar '16 12:25:47 PM SolidSonicTH
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* AlwaysMurder: Of course. Edgeworth can't even take a simple plane trip without someone winding up dead in an elevator (and himself accused of the crime). The second game even has an assassination attempt [[spoiler:that takes place during a ''faked'' assassination attempt, which is then used by the case's culprit to obscure his actions in the very ''real'' murder that ends up taking place]]!
23rd Feb '16 10:50:59 AM Viira
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A character sheet for the whole series can be found [[Characters/AceAttorney here]]. ''Note that this page contains '''spoilers''' for the sequel, and may not be properly marked at some points.''

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A character sheet for the whole series can be found [[Characters/AceAttorney here]]. ''Note that this page contains '''spoilers''' for the sequel, and may not be properly marked at some points.''
23rd Feb '16 7:46:29 AM Peridonyx
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* GreaterScopeVillain: Played with. The corrupt organization encompassing [[spoiler:chief prosecutor Blaise Debeste, prison warden Patricia Roland and Zheng Fa "president" (really body double) Di-Juan Huang]] is ''significantly'' and obviously more powerful, influential and menacing than the game's actual BigBad [[spoiler:Simon Keyes]], but they aren't the ones who drive and instigate the main conflict. [[spoiler:In fact, he ends up destroying them all behind the scenes, thus technically elevating him to a similar scope.]]

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* GreaterScopeVillain: Played with. The corrupt organization encompassing [[spoiler:chief prosecutor Blaise Debeste, prison warden Patricia Roland and Zheng Fa "president" (really body double) Di-Juan Huang]] is ''significantly'' and obviously more powerful, influential and menacing than the game's actual BigBad [[spoiler:Simon Keyes]], but they aren't the ones who drive and instigate the main conflict. [[spoiler:In fact, he ends up destroying them all behind the scenes, thus technically elevating him himself to a similar scope.]]
12th Feb '16 2:39:48 PM ThatFanwiththeGlasses
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** A similar spoiler to the first game's is averted: [[spoiler:Miles Edgeworth's text box refers to him as "Edgeworth", despite the presence of his father, Gregory Edgeworth, in case 3.]]
10th Feb '16 8:37:45 AM SolidSonicTH
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** Remember Gregory Edgeworth? [[spoiler:Killed by von Karma? You get to play as him in case 3 of the sequel]].

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** Remember Gregory Edgeworth? [[spoiler:Killed by von Karma? You get to play as him in case 3 of the sequel]].sequel and find out what ''really'' inspired von Karma to do the deed]].
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