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* LastMinuteHookup: The game is billed as a romance, the cover shows Squall and Rinoa embracing, and the {{foreshadowing}} opening montage closes with them sharing a powerful embrace in slow motion. Yet the whole game is spent setting up their relationship, and their first kiss is the final shot of the game.
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Actually, I didn\'t \"blow off\" the Ragnarok sequence. I was well aware of that. It appears that you\'re not aware of the way that a Will They Or Wont They Couple works. Look at how many of them share (sometimes extremely) intimate moments, yet those don\'t make them officially together. Not to mention Squall is still grappling with his feelings even after the scene, AND he suffers from a bad case of Cannot Spit It Out, and his statements like \"I\'ve fallen for you\" and \"I\'ll be your knight\" are internal. However, if you really disagree that much I\'m willing to compromise. Delete it from the main page and put it in the YMMV section.
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* LastMinuteHookup: The game is billed as a romance, the cover shows Squall and Rinoa embracing, and the {{foreshadowing}} opening montage closes with them sharing a powerful embrace in slow motion. Yet the whole game is spent setting up their relationship, and their first kiss is the final shot of the game.
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* LoveConfession: Notably [[SubvertedTrope Subverted.]] The IGN review notes that, for love basically being the main theme of the game, the word is not mentioned once.
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* LoveConfession: Notably [[SubvertedTrope Subverted.]] The IGN review notes that, for love basically being the main theme of the game, the word is not mentioned once.once (although this is incorrect; Rinoa does tell Squall "''we'' love you" during the concert at FH. Nevertheless, neither of the leads of what is primarily a love story ever makes an official LoveConfession).
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* AnguishedDeclarationofLove: Notably [[SubvertedTrope Subverted.]] The IGN review notes that, for love basically being the main theme of the game, the word is not mentioned once.
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* AnguishedDeclarationofLove: Notably [[SubvertedTrope Subverted.]] The IGN review notes that, for love basically being the main theme of the game, the word is not mentioned once.
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Sorry, that trope was taken off because it doesn\'t apply at all to the game. They hooked up well before that. It\'s fairly obvious when they do (seriously the Ragnarok sequence even had the damn love song, followed by Squall defying convention to rescue Rinoa purely out of love for her). Also took off an absolutely pointless trope name spoiler tag.
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* [[spoiler: LaserGuidedAmnesia]]: [[spoiler:Guardian Forces inhibit memories]], which is a fundamental plot point that defines most of the game.
* [[spoiler: LastMinuteHookup: The game is billed as a romance, the cover shows Squall and Rinoa embracing, and the {{foreshadowing}} opening montage closes with them sharing a powerful embrace in slow motion. Yet the whole game is spent setting up their relationship, and their first kiss is the final shot of the game.]]
* [[spoiler: LastMinuteHookup: The game is billed as a romance, the cover shows Squall and Rinoa embracing, and the {{foreshadowing}} opening montage closes with them sharing a powerful embrace in slow motion. Yet the whole game is spent setting up their relationship, and their first kiss is the final shot of the game.]]
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* [[spoiler: LaserGuidedAmnesia]]: LaserGuidedAmnesia: [[spoiler:Guardian Forces inhibit memories]], which is a fundamental plot point that defines most of the game.
* [[spoiler: LastMinuteHookup: The game is billed as a romance, the cover shows Squall and Rinoa embracing, and the {{foreshadowing}} opening montage closes with them sharing a powerful embrace in slow motion. Yet the whole game is spent setting up their relationship, and their first kiss is the final shot of thegame.]]
* [[spoiler: LastMinuteHookup: The game is billed as a romance, the cover shows Squall and Rinoa embracing, and the {{foreshadowing}} opening montage closes with them sharing a powerful embrace in slow motion. Yet the whole game is spent setting up their relationship, and their first kiss is the final shot of the
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Re-adding trope that was deleted. Please remember this part of the trope\'s description. From the page for Last Minute Hookup: \"Keep in mind that even though this is not a {{YMMV }} trope and is usually pretty straight forward, (ie the couple hooks up at the last minute), that Your Mileage May Vary can still apply to this. What one person considers to be the couple getting together, another person may not. For example, the couple may have confessed their feelings for each other earlier, at which point part of the audience now considers them to have hooked up, but the couple doesn\'t have their first kiss until the very end, (or vice versa) and the other part of the audience doesn\'t consider them officially together until then.\"
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** The various [=GFs=] who offer you their powers after defeating them.
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** The various [=GFs=] [=GFs=]; Ifrit, Diablos, Brothers,Cerberus, Bahamut, Cactuar, Tonberry, and Odin, who offer you their powers after defeating them.
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** The team also splits up when Squall and Rinoa are sent into space.
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* DistressedDamsel: Rinoa requires rescuing several times over the course of the game, and is unplayable for almost all of the third disc thanks to being [[spoiler: variously comatose, possessed by Ultimecia, or imprisoned by Esthar. This makes her a DamselScrappy to many players, at least until she TakesALevelInBadass by becoming a sorceress]].
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* DistressedDamsel: Rinoa requires rescuing several times over the course of the game, and is unplayable for almost all of the third disc thanks to being [[spoiler: variously comatose, possessed by Ultimecia, or imprisoned by Esthar. This makes her a DamselScrappy to many players, at least until she TakesALevelInBadass by becoming a sorceress]].sorceress. Even then, she still gets taken captive by Seifer, later to be held hostage by Adel, but of course, he was holding her at weapon-point.]]
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There was no reason for that to be a hottip.
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* PeninsulaOfPowerleveling: The Island Closest To Heaven and The Island Closest To Hell. Not only does it have (hidden) Draw Points stocking of some of the game's best spells, it's also the only place where DynamicDifficulty is averted, instead providing Lv.100 versions of some pretty fierce monsters[[hottip:*:The EXP they provide doesn't go up, but it does affect their item drops and the magic you can draw from them]], and at a high encounter rate. Spam [[OneHitKill Degenerator]] for rapid experience gain.
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* PeninsulaOfPowerleveling: The Island Closest To Heaven and The Island Closest To Hell. Not only does it have (hidden) Draw Points stocking of some of the game's best spells, it's also the only place where DynamicDifficulty is averted, instead providing Lv.100 versions of some pretty fierce monsters[[hottip:*:The monsters. While the EXP they provide doesn't go up, but it does affect their item drops and the magic you can draw from them]], them, and at a high encounter rate. Spam [[OneHitKill Degenerator]] for rapid experience gain.
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* PeninsulaOfPowerleveling: The Island Closest To Heaven and The Island Closest To Hell. Not only does it have (hidden) Draw Points providing stocks of some of the game's best spells, it's also the only place where DynamicDifficulty is averted, instead providing Lv.100 versions of some pretty fierce monsters. (The EXP they provide doesn't go up, but it does affect their item drops and the magic you can draw from them.) Regardless, it's one of the best places for rapid leveling, particularly if you spam [[GameBreaker Degenerator]].
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* PeninsulaOfPowerleveling: The Island Closest To Heaven and The Island Closest To Hell. Not only does it have (hidden) Draw Points providing stocks stocking of some of the game's best spells, it's also the only place where DynamicDifficulty is averted, instead providing Lv.100 versions of some pretty fierce monsters. (The monsters[[hottip:*:The EXP they provide doesn't go up, but it does affect their item drops and the magic you can draw from them.) Regardless, it's one of the best places them]], and at a high encounter rate. Spam [[OneHitKill Degenerator]] for rapid leveling, particularly if you spam [[GameBreaker Degenerator]].experience gain.
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* LimitBreak: As mentioned, one of the more easily abused systems in the series.
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* LimitBreak: As mentioned, one of the more easily abused easily-abused systems in the series.series. See the "GameBreaker" entry on the [[YMMV/FinalFantasyVIII YMMV page]] for more details.
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** It's stated that after you hit [[PointOfNoReturn Time Compression]] you will not be able to access any towns or characters. But you still have access to your GlobalAirship... where a number of {{NPC}}s have inexplicably set up shop. And the only way to ''reach'' your airship is a wildly circuitous Chocobo ride. How many people figured this out without being told it beforehand?
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No apstrophe! That is plural, not possessive! Gragh!
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** In the Japanese version, this happens with any of the [=GF's=] that have to be drawn from a boss, and with Cerberus. The US version, however, averts this by allowing the player to draw any of the missed [=GF's=] from the bosses in Ultimecia's castle.
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** In the Japanese version, this happens with any of the [=GF's=] that have to be drawn from a boss, and with Cerberus. The US version, however, averts this by allowing the player to draw any of the missed [=GF's=] from the bosses in Ultimecia's castle.
** Any item on the Dollet communications tower.
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** Any item on the Esthar Lunar Base.
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** Any item in Galbadia Garden.
** Any item on the Esthar LunarBase.Base, one of which is a card that can only be gotten there.
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* PartyInMyPocket: The first game in the series to avertWhile in a town or dungeon, the party members will be shown AllInARow, but on the world map, only the leader will be shown.
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* PartyInMyPocket: The first game in the series to avertWhile avert it. While in a town or dungeon, the party members will be shown AllInARow, but on the world map, only the leader will be shown.
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** "Eyes on Me" is more the Leitmotif for the concept of love itself. Every time something romantic between Squall and Rinoa, or their parents (Its complicated, but there's no incest) or Laguna and Raine, this music plays. In addition, most of the main cast ends up with SOMEONE by the end of the game, and the reason that SeeDs exist in the first place is because Cid loved Edea too much to just outright kill her when he saw what a monster she was becoming (That and Edea before being mind controlled knew a teenager killed Ultimecia)
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** "Eyes on Me" is more the Leitmotif for the concept of love itself. Every time something romantic between Squall and Rinoa, or their parents (Its (it's complicated, but there's no incest) or Laguna and Raine, this music plays. In addition, most of the main cast ends up with SOMEONE ''someone'' by the end of the game, and the reason that SeeDs exist [=SeeD=] exists in the first place is because Cid loved Edea too much to just outright kill her when he saw what a monster she was becoming (That (that and Edea before being mind controlled Edea knew a teenager killed Ultimecia)Ultimecia).
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* [[DefrostingIceQueen Defrosting Ice King]]: Squall, in an uncommon male example.
* DeusExMachina: The Ragnarok conveniently floats by as Squall and Rinoa are drifting in space. Of course, it's revealed later that there was a good reason it was there as it was used to launch Adel's tomb and thus was abandoned in the same area of space. However, because this is revealed after and not before, it ends up in this category.
* DeusExMachina: The Ragnarok conveniently floats by as Squall and Rinoa are drifting in space. Of course, it's revealed later that there was a good reason it was there as it was used to launch Adel's tomb and thus was abandoned in the same area of space. However, because this is revealed after and not before, it ends up in this category.
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DefrostingIceQueen: Squall.
* DeusExMachina: The Ragnarok conveniently floats by as Squall and Rinoa are drifting in space.Of course, it's It's revealed later that there was a good reason it was there as it was used to launch Adel's tomb and thus was abandoned in the same area of space. However, because this is revealed after its timing and not before, it ends up in this category.placement is still incredibly convenient.
* DeusExMachina: The Ragnarok conveniently floats by as Squall and Rinoa are drifting in space.
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* [[DidntThinkThisThrough Didn't Think This Through]]: Squall gets into a space suit and leaves the EscapePod to [[spoiler: rescue Rinoa, who's floating out in space]]. Even though he succeeds, they're both stuck out in the middle of space, low on oxygen, and with no way to get back to the Planet. Fortunately DeusExMachina saves the day.
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* [[DidntThinkThisThrough Didn't Think This Through]]: DidntThinkThisThrough: Squall gets into a space suit and leaves the EscapePod to [[spoiler: rescue Rinoa, who's floating out in space]]. Even though he succeeds, they're both stuck out in the middle of space, low on oxygen, and with no way to get back to the Planet. Fortunately DeusExMachina saves the day.
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* [[ICantDance I Can't Dance]]: Squall in the ballroom scene. [[spoiler:Turned out to be a lie.]]
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* [[ICantDance I Can't Dance]]: ICantDance: Squall in the ballroom scene. [[spoiler:Turned out to be a lie.]]
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* [[ItsRainingMen It's Raining Men]]: Galbadia Garden uses this technique during both of their offensives during the Battle of the Gardens.
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* [[ItsRainingMen It's Raining Men]]: ItsRainingMen: Galbadia Garden uses this technique during both of their offensives during the Battle of the Gardens.
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* DeusExMachina: The Ragnarok conveniently floats by as Squall and Rinoa are drifting in space. Justified to some extent in that it was used to launch Adel's tomb and thus was abandoned in the same area of space.
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* DeusExMachina: The Ragnarok conveniently floats by as Squall and Rinoa are drifting in space. Justified to some extent in Of course, it's revealed later that there was a good reason it was there as it was used to launch Adel's tomb and thus was abandoned in the same area of space.space. However, because this is revealed after and not before, it ends up in this category.
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* LaserGuidedAmnesia: [[spoiler:Guardian Forces inhibit memories]], which is a fundamental plot point that defines most of the game.
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* OurPresidentsAreDifferent: The President Buffoon type, subverted with [[spoiler:Laguna]]. After the whole game portrays him as awkward, dimwitted, and reckless, he then becomes President of [[spoiler:Esthar]] and seems to be doing quite well at it. Still a pretty big dork when you met him with your party. His background also helps make him a President Personable.
** The Galbadian president, however, is PresidentEvil played quite straight before [[spoiler: Edea makes him a President Target]].
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* OurPresidentsAreDifferent: The President Buffoon type, subverted with [[spoiler:Laguna]]. After the whole game portrays him as awkward, dimwitted, and reckless, he then becomes President of [[spoiler:Esthar]] and seems to be doing quite well at it. Still a pretty big dork when you met him with your party. His background also helps make him a President Personable.
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**The Galbadian president, President Vinzer Deling of Galbadia, however, is PresidentEvil played quite straight before [[spoiler: Edea makes him a President Target]].
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* ShiftingSandLand: D-District Prison is located in one, which is why it's named D (For Desert) District Prison.
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* WouldntHitAGirl: Raijin, during the three boss fights with him, will not attack your female characters. He even says ''"I don't hit girls, ya know"'' if he [=KOs=] all the male members of your party and only females are left. (Sadly it is not possible to take advantage of this by fighting him with an all-female party since you CantDropTheHero.)
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* WouldntHitAGirl: Raijin, during the three boss fights with him, will not attack your female characters. He even says ''"I don't hit girls, ya know"'' if he [=KOs=] all the male members of your party and only females are left. (Sadly it is not possible to take advantage of this by fighting him with an all-female party since you CantDropTheHero.)CantDropTheHero, and during the first two fights, Zell is a RequiredPartyMember.
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SWORD BEAM. NOT BFS.
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** She doesn't speak like this in the Spanish translation either.
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Because this was bugging folks and it doesn\'t actually add anything to the paragraph anyway.
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The fandom either [[LoveItOrHateIt loved it or hated it]]. The hyper-success of ''FinalFantasyVII'' meant that ''FinalFantasyVIII'' had incredible expectations to live up to. Exacerbating the matter was the fact that ''[=FFVIII=]'''s storytelling opted for subtlety and nuance, leaving the player to [[JigsawPuzzlePlot interpret the meaning behind the story's events themselves]]. The two opposing fan camps over the game's quality are just as vocal today as they were when the game was released.
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The fandom either [[LoveItOrHateIt loved it or hated it]]. The hyper-success of ''FinalFantasyVII'' meant that ''FinalFantasyVIII'' had incredible expectations to live up to. Exacerbating the matter was the fact that ''[=FFVIII=]'''s storytelling opted for subtlety and nuance, leaving the player to [[JigsawPuzzlePlot interpret the meaning behind the story's events themselves]]. The two opposing fan camps over the game's quality are just as vocal today as they were when the game was released.
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I\'m really going to have to contest this, as that does not really strike me as the game\'s central theme.
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* CentralTheme: Better to love and be hurt than to not love at all.
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* ArsonMurderAndJaywalking: Right before the Battle of the Gardens, Squall is given a choice of orders to issue to the students in Balamb Garden involving their battle strategy and defense, but there's also an order of what to do with the hot dogs.
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* {{Nakama}}: The party, especially after they learn that [[spoiler: most of them grew up together in the same orphanage]].
* TrueCompanions: The party, especially after they learn that [[spoiler: most of them grew up together in the same orphanage]].
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** BadassTeacher: Quistis, at least at first. She probably qualifies for Bookworm as well, as becoming a Seed by age 15 requires some hardcore studying.
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* SolemnEndingTheme: "[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNefNLOHVYk Eyes On Me]]".
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* AnimalMotifs: Squall's omnipresent lion motif.
** It's actually a Griever: think flaming St. Mark's Lion.
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