History Videogame / FinalFantasyVIII

18th Jan '18 4:52:28 PM Reymma
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** When the party members except for Rinoa [[spoiler:remember that they were all in the same orphanage along with [[TheRivalSeifer]], Irvine reveals who the orphan matron really is]].

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** When the party members except for Rinoa [[spoiler:remember that they were all in the same orphanage along with [[TheRivalSeifer]], Seifer, Irvine reveals who the orphan matron really is]].
9th Jan '18 1:38:55 PM Darkmoonfire
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** Edea also has these features, though this overlaps with EeriePaleSkinnedBrunette due to being a sorceress with an [[PimpedOutDress outrageous outfit. [[spoiler:Her beauty is more pronounced in her regular outfits as seen in the flashbacks and the game's closing credits.]]

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** Edea also has these features, though this overlaps with EeriePaleSkinnedBrunette due to being a sorceress with an [[PimpedOutDress outrageous outfit. ]] [[spoiler:Her beauty is more pronounced in her regular outfits as seen in the flashbacks and the game's closing credits.]]
20th Dec '17 2:52:54 AM Daefaroth
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** Showing off your Gunblade in the Classroom Area (where weapons are prohibited) will instantly result in you getting caught by Garden Faculty and being deducted points from the SeeD exam.
** From the instant you put your Garden Cadet uniform until you are dismissed after the completion of the mission, you are being closely monitored. Run away from too many fights? Go out of your way to talk to people instead of focusing on the mission? Disobey an order given by your squad leader? They'll know, and your Final Exam score (and initial SeeD Rank) will suffer for it.

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** Showing off your Gunblade in the Classroom Area (where weapons are prohibited) will instantly result in you getting caught by Garden Faculty and being deducted points from the SeeD [=SeeD=] exam.
** From the instant you put your Garden Cadet uniform until you are dismissed after the completion of the mission, you are being closely monitored. Run away from too many fights? Go out of your way to talk to people instead of focusing on the mission? Disobey an order given by your squad leader? They'll know, and your Final Exam score (and initial SeeD [=SeeD=] Rank) will suffer for it.



-->'''Rinoa''': ''(to herself)'' I'm not a SeeD, but... I can do this... This isn't some kind of game...

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-->'''Rinoa''': ''(to herself)'' I'm not a SeeD, [=SeeD=], but... I can do this... This isn't some kind of game...
14th Dec '17 3:49:20 PM JoieDeCombat
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* AnimalMotifs: Squall's omnipresent (winged) lion motif, the ''[[MeaningfulName Griever]].''

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* AnimalMotifs: Squall's omnipresent (winged) Lion imagery is all ''over'' Squall, from his family name of Leonhart to the fur collar of his jacket evoking a lion's mane. Some of it, like the jacket and the lion-headed cross that decorates his necklace and his gunblade, is clearly purposeful on his part: discussing his ring, which also features a winged lion, Squall describes the lion motif, as a symbol of great strength and pride, with the ''[[MeaningfulName Griever]].''implication that he wishes he could be more like one.
14th Dec '17 2:53:49 PM Tractical_Chunder
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** Lampshaded during the missile base mission: a guard will compliment you for walking in a single file if you choose to act cool.

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** Lampshaded during the missile base mission: a guard will compliment tease you for walking in a single file if you choose to act "act cool."



* AnimalMotifs: Squall's omnipresent (winged) lion motif.

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* AnimalMotifs: Squall's omnipresent (winged) lion motif. motif, the ''[[MeaningfulName Griever]].''



* {{Anti Villain}}s: Fujin and Raijin.

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* {{Anti Villain}}s: Fujin and Raijin. They're loyal to Seifer, but don't get quite as delusional as him and only fight the main characters because Seifer wills it. This dissonance leads them to alternate between senseless loyalty to Seifer to thinking he needs some sense knocking into him.



* AsskickingEqualsAuthority: Cid steps down as Headmaster and promotes Squall to Commander of [=SeeD=] specifically in order to change Garden from a school to an active fighting force against the sorceress. [[spoiler:The decision is undoubtedly helped along by the fact that Cid already knows, courtesy of Edea, that Squall is going to defeat Ultimecia in the future.]]

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* AsskickingEqualsAuthority: Cid steps down as Headmaster and promotes Squall to Commander of [=SeeD=] specifically in order to change Garden from a school to an active fighting force against the sorceress. [[spoiler:The decision is undoubtedly helped along by the fact that Cid already knows, courtesy of Edea, [[StableTimeLoop that Squall is going to defeat Ultimecia in the future.future]].]]



** Not only that, but Laguna [[spoiler:was in love with Rinoa's mother before he disappeared to Winhill and before she married General Caraway, adding a further connection between them]].

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** Not only that, but Laguna [[spoiler:was in love with Rinoa's mother before he disappeared to Winhill and before she married General Caraway, adding a further connection between them]].helped raise Ellone, who ends up as Edea's orphanage]].



* AFatherToHisMen: Cid.

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* AFatherToHisMen: Cid. Although considering he's working with child soldiers...



** Squall and Seifer both use gunblades -- that is, a sword with a pistol built into the base of the blade; perfect examples of ExoticWeaponSupremacy, as they have 100% accuracy and can do additional damage with the press of a button. Exactly how gunblades function are a source of much FanWank, though Square themselves basically explained them to be {{Vibroweapon}}s in the [[AllThereInTheManual Ultimania guide]]. In-universe, Cid mentions that gunblade specialists are rare, as the weapons are rather difficult to use, hinting that even in the game's world, they're not necessarily practical. Seifer mastered it because he saw a video of a sorceress' knight as a kid and wanted to emulate the style (and he's still rather blunt when using it). Various secondary media point out that Squall learned it because he was ''stubborn'', and wanted to master the weird weapon when everyone else went to something more commonsense.

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** Squall and Seifer both use gunblades -- that is, a sword with a pistol built into the base of the blade; perfect examples of ExoticWeaponSupremacy, as they have 100% 100%- no sorry, ''255%'' accuracy and can do additional damage with the press of a button. Exactly how gunblades function are a source of much FanWank, though Square themselves basically explained them to be {{Vibroweapon}}s in the [[AllThereInTheManual Ultimania guide]]. In-universe, Cid mentions that gunblade specialists are rare, as the weapons are rather difficult to use, hinting that even in the game's world, they're not necessarily practical. Seifer mastered it because he saw a video of a sorceress' knight as a kid and wanted to emulate the style (and he's still rather blunt when using it). Various secondary media point out that Squall learned it because he was ''stubborn'', and wanted to master the weird weapon when everyone else went to something more commonsense.



** Quistis seems to have some kind of feelings for Squall, but admits that she "gave up as soon as (Rinoa) entered the picture."



** SenseiChan: Only a year older than most of her students.



** TeacherStudentRomance: Seems to have some kind of attraction to Squall, although this isn't really explored once Rinoa enters the picture.



** The three time is on the Esthar Lunar Base, which is about [[spoiler:to be swallowed by the Lunar Cry]], but you can take as long as you want getting to the EscapePod. To gain a particular card in the game's card game sidequest, you are required to play a secondary character, an opportunity that [[PermanentlyMissableContent comes only in this instance]]. The game does some LampshadeHanging on this by having the character state, "You wanna to play cards now!?"

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** The three third time is on the Esthar Lunar Base, which is about [[spoiler:to be swallowed by the Lunar Cry]], but you can take as long as you want getting to the EscapePod. To gain a particular card in the game's card game sidequest, you are required to play a secondary character, an opportunity that [[PermanentlyMissableContent comes only in this instance]]. The game does some LampshadeHanging on this by having the character state, "You wanna to play cards now!?"
2nd Dec '17 6:14:32 PM DrakeClawfang
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* BrokenAesop:
** Early on, Cid espouses that he doesn't want [=SeeD=] to just blindly follow orders and wants them to think for themselves, and other characters comment on the perception that [=SeeD=] will do anything they're told by their commanders, which makes the party uncomfortable. Later, Squall is appointed the leader of Balamb Garden's forces with no one giving him a chance to refuse, and it turns out at the end of the game that BecauseDestinySaysSo has been in effect the entire time.
** Squall believes in GreyAndGrayMorality, thinking that there is no such thing as good and evil, just different viewpoints that divide people. Despite this, Adel is a GenericDoomsdayVillain, the party never shows any interest in understanding Seifer's motivations or reasoning with him, and Dr. Odine dismisses any speculation on [[spoiler:why Ultimecia wants to compress time, saying they should just focus on stopping her.]]
2nd Nov '17 5:46:17 AM DragonQuestZ
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* NoFlowInCGI: The fur collar of Squall's bomber jacket is designed to challenge the CGI artists.



* PrettyInMink: The collar of Squall's bomber jacket, designed to challenge the CGI artists.
8th Oct '17 1:04:30 PM SeptimusHeap
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** Tetsuya Nomura mentioned in an interview about ''TheBouncer'' that Squall was inspired by River Phoenix and "Nobody understood it". Though, many series fans have also noted a resemblance to idol singer Gackt. The fact that Gackt has cosplayed Squall and Tetsuya Nomura's obsession with him appeared in multiple games only makes the resemblance even easier to notice.

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** Tetsuya Nomura mentioned in an interview about ''TheBouncer'' ''VideoGame/TheBouncer'' that Squall was inspired by River Phoenix and "Nobody understood it". Though, many series fans have also noted a resemblance to idol singer Gackt. The fact that Gackt has cosplayed Squall and Tetsuya Nomura's obsession with him appeared in multiple games only makes the resemblance even easier to notice.
19th Sep '17 1:40:23 AM dytysan
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Ironically, ''VIII'' took some major liberties with gameplay. Though the swords-and-sorcery mixed with a sci-fi vibe (sans FantasyGunControl) was not unusual, ''VIII'' did away with the ManaMeter entirely, as well as with almost all equipment options. Characters now "junction" VancianMagic directly to their bodies instead of armour. Foremost amongst these are captive [[SummonMagic summoned creatures]], which themselves unlock other junctioning options, allowing characters to enhance their other primary statistics. Monsters use LevelScaling to beef up relative to the party average, making it entirely worthless to [[OneManParty level up to Lv.100]] because every enemy will get stronger to invalidate your grinding. Modern ''Final Fantasy'' games continue to tinker with the "no armor" approach, most notably ''[[VideoGame/FinalFantasyX X]]'' and ''[[VideoGame/FinalFantasyXIII XIII]]''. Gameplay met with a mixed reception. Some complained that that magic use led to stat reduction, as spells are stored on the person as quantified inventory; others complained that the ability to LevelGrind powerful magic, and use your summons multiple times per battle, essentially destroyed the difficulty curve.

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Ironically, ''VIII'' took some major liberties with gameplay. Though the swords-and-sorcery mixed with a sci-fi vibe (sans FantasyGunControl) was not unusual, ''VIII'' did away with the ManaMeter entirely, as well as with almost all equipment options. Characters now "junction" VancianMagic directly to their bodies instead of armour. Foremost amongst these are captive [[SummonMagic summoned creatures]], which themselves unlock other junctioning options, allowing characters to enhance their other primary statistics. Monsters use LevelScaling to beef up relative to the party average, making it entirely worthless to [[OneManParty level up to Lv.100]] because every enemy will get stronger to invalidate your grinding. Modern ''Final Fantasy'' games continue to tinker with the "no armor" approach, most notably ''[[VideoGame/FinalFantasyX X]]'' and ''[[VideoGame/FinalFantasyXIII XIII]]''. Gameplay met with a mixed reception. Some complained that that magic use led to stat reduction, as spells are stored on the person as quantified inventory; others complained that the ability to LevelGrind powerful magic, and use your summons multiple times per battle, essentially destroyed the difficulty curve.
16th Sep '17 12:51:31 PM jameygamer
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