History VideoGame / ShinMegamiTenseiIV

4th Dec '17 8:52:55 AM finalsurvivor1
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* BraggingRightsReward:
** Astaroth, Asherah, and Ishtar are all unlocked on a NewGamePlus quest chain, Astaroth being available after beating him at Level 90 during the first quest and the latter two being available upon clearing the last, Chaos-exclusive quest, which has a GuideDangIt trigger. Given the effort you need to get them, they're not all that useful.
** Mother Harlot, gotten from the same quest as Asherah and Ishtar, is a massive example. Having to beat the game and do a Chaos run on NewGamePlus while doing a quest chain that starts with one of the strongest bosses in the game isn't enough. You also have to beat all of the 1/256 Fiend encounters except Chemtrail, and two of them (Red Rider and Trumpeter) cannot be fought on the Chaos route due to their areas being locked off. Mother Harlot's still decent, but given that you'll have to beat Astaroth, most of the Fiends, [[spoiler:Merkabah, and most likely Lucifer]] to be able to fuse her, you probably won't be using her much, if at all.



** There are a number of demons, such as Ishtar, Astaroth, and Take-Mikazuchi, that require very difficult end-game quests to unlock but whose recruitable versions come in at a much lower level. These seem to be intended as {{Disc One Nuke}}s for a NewGamePlus, as their move pool includes endgame-level moves like Samarecarm and Hades Blast, allowing you to get these moves at midgame on a new cycle.

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** There are a number of demons, such as Ishtar, Astaroth, and Take-Mikazuchi, that require very difficult end-game NewGamePlus quests to unlock but whose recruitable versions come in at a much lower level. These seem to be intended as {{Disc One Nuke}}s for a NewGamePlus, as their move pool includes endgame-level moves like Samarecarm and Hades Blast, allowing you to get these moves at midgame on a new cycle.


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** The 1/256 Fiends. The only hint that something like them even exists is an NPC in Minami Sunamachi; knowing where they spawn is another matter.
27th Nov '17 6:12:39 PM nombretomado
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* WorldOfBadass: The list of named characters who aren't badass in one way or another probably could be counted on one hand. Particularly badass individuals include [[KaijuDefenseForce Koga Saburo]], [[{{Determinator}} Kaga]], and [[ActionHero your main character]]. The alignment heroes too, for the extent to which dedication to their ideals makes them potent allies... and enemies.

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* WorldOfBadass: The list of named characters who aren't badass in one way or another probably could be counted on one hand. Particularly badass individuals include [[KaijuDefenseForce [[UsefulNotes/KaijuDefenseForce Koga Saburo]], [[{{Determinator}} Kaga]], and [[ActionHero your main character]]. The alignment heroes too, for the extent to which dedication to their ideals makes them potent allies... and enemies.
12th Nov '17 3:18:30 PM Harco
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* ForDoomTheBellTolls: The "-Battle C4-" theme begins with the toll of a bell, which is repeated several times and ultimately becomes an integral part of the track. This song is also known as "Fiend Battle Theme" and plays as you face off against the most brutal {{Bonus Boss}}es in the game, who are all heavily associated with death (such as the HorsemenOfTheApocalypse).
31st Oct '17 10:48:33 PM infernape612
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** In the dream sequences where you see Jonathon you also clearly see the [[spoiler: head of a stature lying on the ground behind him]]. Careful observers will notice that this is the [[spoiler: head of the King Aquila statue]] that will be [[spoiler: destroyed by the angels after they take direct control of Mikado]].

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** In the dream sequences where you see Jonathon Jonathan you also clearly see the [[spoiler: head of a stature lying on the ground behind him]]. Careful observers will notice that this is the [[spoiler: head of the King Aquila statue]] that will be [[spoiler: destroyed by the angels after they take direct control of Mikado]].



* HeroicSacrifice: Regardless of ending, [[spoiler: Walter willingly fuses with Hikari/Lucifer to restore the latter's power, while Johnathan fuses with the archangels and becomes Merkabah, God's Chariot. It's made clear that both fusions are treated as death for their respective heroes, and made doubly apparent if you chose to be the sacrifice instead.]]

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* HeroicSacrifice: Regardless of ending, [[spoiler: Walter willingly fuses with Hikari/Lucifer to restore the latter's power, while Johnathan Jonathan fuses with the archangels and becomes Merkabah, God's Chariot. It's made clear that both fusions are treated as death for their respective heroes, and made doubly apparent if you chose to be the sacrifice instead.]]
31st Oct '17 10:46:37 PM infernape612
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* YankTheDogsChain:[[spoiler: In the Neutral route, Fujiwara reveals that he and the Counter-Demon Force actually managed to complete the tunnel Mikado would name Naraku and reach the world outside, still recovering from the nuclear holocaust. They started laying the land and building some infrastructure that would become part of Mikado Castle (he specifically mentions the bar implied to eventually become K's Tavern) when the Archangels came down and drove them back into Tokyo.]]

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* YankTheDogsChain:[[spoiler: In YankTheDogsChain: [[spoiler:In the Neutral route, Fujiwara reveals that he and the Counter-Demon Force actually managed to complete the tunnel Mikado would name Naraku and reach the world outside, still recovering from the nuclear holocaust. They started laying the land and building some infrastructure that would become part of Mikado Castle (he specifically mentions the bar implied to eventually become K's Tavern) when the Archangels came down and drove them back into Tokyo.]]
31st Oct '17 10:43:56 PM infernape612
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** For the Law Route, there's [[spoiler:Gabriel of the Four Archangels.]], while the Chaos route features [[spoiler: Lucifer]] in this role.

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** For the Law Route, there's [[spoiler:Gabriel of the Four Archangels.]], Archangels]], while the Chaos route features [[spoiler: Lucifer]] in this role.
19th Oct '17 1:06:28 PM LucaEarlgrey
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* FirstTimeInTheSun: [[spoiler:In the Neutral Ending, large groups of Tokyo citizens stand in the streets to watch the Firmament tear itself out of its place, allowing sunlight back into the city.]]

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* FirstTimeInTheSun: FirstTimeInTheSun:
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[[spoiler:In the Neutral Ending, large groups of Tokyo citizens stand in the streets to watch the Firmament tear itself out of its place, allowing sunlight back into the city.city. While there are many who have seen the sun before due to being old enough to have been around in pre-Firmament Tokyo, there are also many who were born after Tokyo turned into a massive cavern.]]
23rd Sep '17 10:05:00 AM nombretomado
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''Shin Megami Tensei IV'' is a 2013 game in the main ''Franchise/ShinMegamiTensei'' series, developed by {{Atlus}} for the UsefulNotes/Nintendo3DS. ''SMT IV'' also marks the first {{Numbered Sequel|s}} in the main series since the release of ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiIIINocturne'' in [[VideoGameLongRunners 2003]].

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''Shin Megami Tensei IV'' is a 2013 game in the main ''Franchise/ShinMegamiTensei'' series, developed by {{Atlus}} Creator/{{Atlus}} for the UsefulNotes/Nintendo3DS. ''SMT IV'' also marks the first {{Numbered Sequel|s}} in the main series since the release of ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiIIINocturne'' in [[VideoGameLongRunners 2003]].
16th Sep '17 2:27:55 PM nombretomado
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''Shin Megami Tensei IV'' is a 2013 game in the main ''Franchise/ShinMegamiTensei'' series, developed by {{Atlus}} for the Nintendo3DS. ''SMT IV'' also marks the first {{Numbered Sequel|s}} in the main series since the release of ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiIIINocturne'' in [[VideoGameLongRunners 2003]].

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''Shin Megami Tensei IV'' is a 2013 game in the main ''Franchise/ShinMegamiTensei'' series, developed by {{Atlus}} for the Nintendo3DS.UsefulNotes/Nintendo3DS. ''SMT IV'' also marks the first {{Numbered Sequel|s}} in the main series since the release of ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiIIINocturne'' in [[VideoGameLongRunners 2003]].
15th Sep '17 2:39:17 AM LucaEarlgrey
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* NotCompletelyUseless: Silent Prayer resets all stat changes to both sides of the battle. This isn't that useful for the most part, since by the time it's available, odds are you are making extensive use of status buffs for your allies, and you don't want that to reset. Merkabah, on the other hand, ''loves'' to increase his own stats while lowering yours, and the battle can go uphill for you in a hurry without Silent Prayer.

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Silent Prayer resets all stat changes to both sides of the battle. This isn't that useful for the most part, since by the time it's available, odds are you are making extensive use of status buffs for your allies, and you don't want that to reset. Merkabah, on the other hand, ''loves'' to increase his own stats while lowering yours, and the battle can go uphill for you in a hurry without Silent Prayer.Prayer.
** Demon Fusion Lite, which allows basic 2-demon fusion with computer-picked skill inheritance seems pointless when you have Mido's full-featured demon fusion app. However, the Lite version allows some skills that have restrictions on being inherited to get passed on to new demons, such as Desperate Hit and Die For Me!, to be inherited anyway. Also, the resulting new demon will have full HP and MP, which can be useful in a pinch if you need a new, healthy demon immediately or if you want to spam high-cost skills.
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