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** Before Alder hands the player the Light or Dark Stone in Nacrene City, [[spoiler: he mentions to the player that they will have to battle N if Alder gets defeated. After the player defeats the Elite Four, the player finds out that N defeated Alder, leaving the player to battle N after they capture Reshiram or Zekrom.]]

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** Before Alder hands the player the Light Stone[[note]]Black Version[[/note]] or Dark Stone Stone[[note]]White Version[[/note]] in Nacrene City, [[spoiler: he mentions to the player that they will have to battle N if Alder gets defeated. After the player defeats the Elite Four, the player finds out that N defeated Alder, leaving the player to battle N after they capture Reshiram Reshiram[[note]]Black Version[[/note]] or Zekrom.]][[note]]White Version[[/note]]]]
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** Before Alder hands the player the Light Stone in Nacrene City, [[spoiler: he mentions to the player that they will have to battle N if Alder gets defeated. After the player defeats the Elite Four, the player finds out that N defeated Alder, leaving the player to battle N after they capture Reshiram or Zekrom.]]

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** Before Alder hands the player the Light or Dark Stone in Nacrene City, [[spoiler: he mentions to the player that they will have to battle N if Alder gets defeated. After the player defeats the Elite Four, the player finds out that N defeated Alder, leaving the player to battle N after they capture Reshiram or Zekrom.]]

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* {{Foreshadowing}}: Members of the Elite Four make various offhand remarks to the effect of another challenger coming through just before you. [[spoiler: That was N, of course.]]

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** Before Alder hands the player the Light Stone in Nacrene City, [[spoiler: he mentions to the player that they will have to battle N if Alder gets defeated. After the player defeats the Elite Four, the player finds out that N defeated Alder, leaving the player to battle N after they capture Reshiram or Zekrom.]]
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Members of the Elite Four make various offhand remarks to the effect of another challenger coming through just before you. [[spoiler: That was N, of course.]]

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%%** Think about it: Oshawott(er).

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%%** Think about it: Oshawott(er).** In a way, Wotter was one of the most popular nicknames for Osha''wott''.



* DiscOneNuke: See the [[{{DiscOneNuke/Pokemon}} series' page here]].

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* DifficultyByRegion: Minor example: Poison Touch has a 30% chance to poison the target with a contact move in the international versions, but it's '''2'''0% in Japan. If a Japanese copy of the game is in a Link Battle with a non-Japanese copy, Poison Touch's probability of activation is determined by game of the player with the Pokémon possessing the Ability. Thus, non-Japanese players are more advantageous when using a Pokémon with Poison Touch. However, the percentage has since been buffed to 30% across all languages starting in ''VideoGame/PokemonXAndY''.
* DiscOneNuke: See the [[{{DiscOneNuke/Pokemon}} [[DiscOneNuke/{{Pokemon}} series' page here]].
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** There's a guy in Black version's Opelucid City with PeekABangs. To top it off, he plays a keytar.

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** There's a guy in Black version's Opelucid City with PeekABangs.bangs. To top it off, he plays a keytar.
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* GameGourmet: A maid on Route 5, known as the Gourmet Maniac, will buy any manner of food or ingredients from you for higher than they'd normally sell for, including stuff your Pokémon don't normally eat such as Sticks (scallions for Farfetch'd), mushrooms, honey, Leftovers, Lucky Eggs, and Shoal Salt.
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** With one exception, the previous generations had a common plot point in which the player fights the villainous organization's leader before earning the eighth and final gym badge and entering the Pokémon League afterwards. Generation V does a twist to the story, wherein the villainous team leader is fought ''after'' earning the eighth and final gym badge.
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Per TRS.


* SurpriseCreepy: As usual, some of the weirder Pokédex entries. More unusually for the series, the more involved plot with some fairly dark themes at that caught a lot of players off guard.

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* GratuitousGerman:There is a room where some trainers speak foreign languages (including Spanish, Italian, and German). The German was [[SurprisinglyGoodEnglish surprisingly good]] (the man says he bought a car, which would help his business due to being able to easily visit the next city over, but he can't pass his driving test).

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* GratuitousGerman:There is a room where some trainers speak foreign languages (including Spanish, Italian, and German). The German was [[SurprisinglyGoodEnglish surprisingly good]] good (the man says he bought a car, which would help his business due to being able to easily visit the next city over, but he can't pass his driving test).



* SurprisinglyGoodEnglish: Virtually all usages of English, German, French, Italian, and Spanish appearing in both versions of the games are grammatically correct and fluent.

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* ExcusePlot: Actually averted this time. ''Platinum'' averted ''some'' of it before (by giving the subplot more of an emphasis than it had in ''Diamond'' and ''Pearl''), but in ''Black'' and ''White'', the plot is literally ''everywhere'', up to [[spoiler: the ending at the Pokémon League.]]

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* EnchantedForest: Lostlorn Forest is shrouded in constant fog, and human intruders within it are constantly turned around and confused by the illusions of a Zoroark living there.
* ExcusePlot: Actually averted this time. ''Platinum'' averted ''some'' of it before (by giving the subplot more of an emphasis than it had in ''Diamond'' and ''Pearl''), but in ''Black'' and ''White'', the plot is literally ''everywhere'', up to [[spoiler: the [[spoiler:the ending at the Pokémon League.]]League]].



* {{Fanservice}}: While it's nothing new, several young trainers wear very revealing outfits...

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* {{Fanservice}}: While it's nothing new, several young trainers wear very revealing outfits...outfits.
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* FantasyCounterpartMap: Unova's map looks like parts of New York and some of New Jersey.

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* FantasyCounterpartMap: Unova's map looks like Unova is designed based on the New York metropolitan area (including parts of New York Jersey). Although Pokémon regions also take inspiration in their cities and geographical landmarks from their real equivalents, Unova differs noticeably at some points to prevent the whole region from being one big city. For instance, it has a desert right above the equivalent of New Jersey.lower Manhattan.
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* FantasyCounterpartMap: Unova's map looks like parts of New York and some of New Jersey.
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Despite the Happy Ending Override aspects of the sequel, I'd say the tone is more overall happy than bitter.


* BittersweetEnding: N is defeated, so is Ghetsis and Team Plasma, but N's ideals leaves him very disillusioned, and finds out Ghetsis founded Team Plasma for the specific intention to rule the world by disarming Pokémon Trainers so he can rule unopposed. Team Plasma's actions has serious repercussions in the sequel, and the protagonist decides to leave Unova to look for N.
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* BittersweetEnding: N is defeated, so is Ghetsis and Team Plasma, but N's ideals leaves him very disillusioned, and finds out Ghetsis founded Team Plasma for the specific intention to rule the world by disarming Pokémon Trainers so he can rule unopposed. Team Plasma's actions has serious repercussions in the sequel, and the protagonist decides to leave Unova to look for N.
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* RoswellThatEndsWell: Elgyem and Beheeyem are highly imied to be the survivors of the Roswell Incident.

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* RoswellThatEndsWell: Elgyem and Beheeyem are highly imied implied to be the survivors of the Roswell Incident.

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* RetiredBadass: The player's mother used to be a Pokémon Trainer herself. At one point, she even met the sequel protagonist's mother on her journey.



* RoswellThatEndsWell: Elgyem and Beheeyem are highly implied to be the survivors of the Roswell Incident.

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* RoswellThatEndsWell: Elgyem and Beheeyem are highly implied imied to be the survivors of the Roswell Incident.
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Trope has been renamed per TRS [1]. but this was a zce


* NotGoodWithPeople: N fits both subtypes.
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*** The "Round" move is reminiscent of the first ''VideoGame/{{MOTHER|1}}''. (Which makes sense, since Creatures, Inc. worked on it.)

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*** The "Round" move is reminiscent of the first ''VideoGame/{{MOTHER|1}}''.''VideoGame/EarthBoundBeginnings''. (Which makes sense, since Creatures, Inc. worked on it.)
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*** Zekrom also looks like it stole its legs and shoulder pads from fellow black-colored character [[StarWars Darth Vader]]. Not helped by the fact that the lightning it uses glows ''neon blue'' rather than yellow or white, just like Palpatine, Starkiller or any other given Sith Lord (but not Vader himself).

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*** Zekrom also looks like it stole its legs and shoulder pads from fellow black-colored character [[StarWars [[Franchise/StarWars Darth Vader]]. Not helped by the fact that the lightning it uses glows ''neon blue'' rather than yellow or white, just like Palpatine, Starkiller or any other given Sith Lord (but not Vader himself).
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** The first four generations had Pokémon from previous generations, and would introduce new evolutions of them. Generation V shakes things up by not having any past Pokémon appear in Unova until the National Dex is obtained at the end of the game.
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* BrokenAesop: The game is not subtle about its message of contrasting perspectives and working with those of differing views, and yet in many ways drops the ball when it counts when it comes to N and Team Plasma. Team Plasma are repeatedly shown to be [[StrawHypocrite Straw Hypocrites]] who don't believe a word of what they preach and N is shown to be incredibly naive with an inaccurate perspective on the world thanks to being raised by Ghetsis through both the story and [[GameplayAndStorySegregation the game itself]], and yet is billed as the player's equal and opposite in both skill and goals. While the player's stance and moral judgement are never once questioned, the main antagonists of the game, [[StrawmanHasAPoint who raise a point that the broader franchise has been historically criticised for]] are shown to be explicitly, objectively wrong and made up of gullible idiots and self-serving liars.
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Hot Scientist is no longer a trope


* HotScientist: Professor Juniper is... [[MsFanservice Wow.]] Her friend, Fennel, is no slouch, either.
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* GenderBender: A boy in Icirrus City is spontaneously transformed into a Waitress when you enter the Entralink. She responds with panic.

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* %%* GenderBender: A boy in Icirrus City is spontaneously transformed into a Waitress when you enter the Entralink. She responds with panic.
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Although it's more relevant here than in the sequels, this is still a series-wide trope.


Information about ''VideoGame/PokemonBlack2AndWhite2'' goes on that page.



* VideoGameDelegationPenalty: You may choose to leave one (later two) of your Mons at the Pokémon Day Care. Pokémon in Day Care gain one experience point per every step the player takes. While its nice to have a Pokémon leveling-up while you simply walk around, there are several drawbacks to this method. For one, Pokémon in Day Care will not evolve. Two, if a Pokémon reaches a level where it can learn a new move, it will always learn that move; if the Pokémon already knows four moves, its first move will be forgotten and the new move will be placed last. This can lead to your Mons forgetting moves you wanted while learning moves you do not. Third, the Mon will not gain Effort Points as it would have if you leveled it up yourself through battle. This will leave it with somewhat lesser stats at higher levels than it would have had if you leveled it up yourself.
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* AmbiguousDisorder: Certain things about Bianca make you wonder if she has some sort of mental disorder, as her father is unusually protective of her and doesn't want her going out into the world alone. You can only wonder if it's because he's worried that she won't be able to function in the outside world without an adult.
%%**N has been interpreted as a high-functioning autistic, though his upbringing goes a long way toward explaining his quirks. Still, the whole "thinks more like a Pokémon than a human" thing calls ''Film/TempleGrandin'' to mind, and ''boy'' has he got the social awkwardness down.
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* BrokenAesop: The game is not subtle about its message of contrasting perspectives and working with those of differing views, and yet in many ways drops the ball when it counts when it comes to N and Team Plasma. Team Plasma are repeatedly shown to be [[StrawHypocrite Straw Hypocrites]] who don't believe a word of what they preach and N is shown to be incredibly naive with an inaccurate perspective on the world thanks to being raised by Ghetsis through both the story and [[GameplayAndStorySegregation the game itself]], and yet is billed as the player's equal and opposite in both skill and goals. While the player's stance and moral judgement are never once questioned, the main antagonists of the game, [[StrawmanHasAPoint who raise a point that the broader franchise has been historically criticised for]] are shown to be explicitly, objectively wrong and made up of gullible idiots and self-serving liars.
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** What makes it this trope as opposed to a regular DifficultySpike is that in order to compensate for the level difference, the majority of the trainers you encounter in the beginning endgame areas use unevolved Pokémon. More than one person had a double take at the trainer with a lv. 63 Weedle.
** It mostly depends on which way you go to reach the new area; do you go east of Opelucid City or east of Nimbasa City? If the latter, it's a DifficultySpike, as some of the early trainers include a tough triple/rotational battle and one has a high leveled Altaria that loves to bulk up on the broken Cotton Guard.
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** The move "Soak" is imported from the TCG. This move changes the target's Pokemon type to Water, making it vulnerable to attacks that are strong against Water types, like Electric. Much like Brock's Onix in Ash's gym battle against him.
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* GottaCatchEmAll: In addition to [[TropeNamer the obvious]], after the main quest ends, you get to go find the remaining Plasma Sages with the help of Looker.

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* GottaCatchEmAll: GottaCatchThemAll: In addition to [[TropeNamer the obvious]], after the main quest ends, you get to go find the remaining Plasma Sages with the help of Looker.
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* MoeStare: Bianca's default expression.

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