History VideoGame / Mother3

20th Jul '17 8:56:37 PM spiderfreak1011
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* ItSucksToBeTheChosenOne: While Lucas isn't necessarily name-dropped as the Chosen One, [[spoiler:the fact that he's the only person (besides the Masked Man) who can use PK Love and pull the 7 Needles to awaken the dragon as was prophesied hints at it. And the Magypsies flat out point out this fact too. As such, Lucas definitely fits this trope, given all the traumatizing things that happen to him as he goes on his journey.]]
** The trope also applies to [[spoiler: the Masked Man, AKA Claus for the same reasoning as mentioned above, him being forced to become the Masked Man and commit atrocities in the name of Porky being the worst of it.]]

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* ItSucksToBeTheChosenOne: While Lucas isn't necessarily name-dropped as the Chosen One, [[spoiler:the fact that he's the one of only person (besides two people in the Masked Man) whole world who can use PK Love and pull the 7 Needles to awaken the dragon as was prophesied hints at it. And the The Magypsies flat out point out this fact too. As such, Lucas definitely fits this trope, given all the traumatizing things that happen to him as he goes on his journey.]]
** The trope also applies to [[spoiler: Claus as well, as he fulfills the same criteria as Lucas under "Chosen One" status, and because of this, he is robotized and brainwashed into the Masked Man, AKA Claus where his ability to pull the needles and Psychic Strength is exploited for the same reasoning as mentioned above, him being forced to become the Masked Man and commit atrocities in the name of Porky being the worst of it.Porky's personal gain.]]
17th Jul '17 1:30:08 AM spiderfreak1011
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* {{Flashback}}: A very important one happens in the Final Battle. [[spoiler: Lucas and Claus are fighting each other, and Hinawa's ghost pleads with them to remember their past, and the two have a flashback to when they were babies and their parents hoped for the best for their future. This finally gets Claus to return to his senses.]]

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* {{Flashback}}: This tends to happen to Lucas often throughout the game.
** Lucas first gets a couple at the start of Chapter 4, where he's reminded [[spoiler: of the [[MissingMom painful absence of his Mother]] when he tries to leave the house before getting dressed and [[TearJerker how she used to comb his hair while he's dressing himself alone.]]]]
** It happens again in Chapter 6, when he gets one right before [[spoiler: he sees his Mother's ghost.]]
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A very important one happens in the Final Battle. [[spoiler: Lucas and Claus are fighting each other, other in a heartrending "[[IKnowYouAreinTheresomewhereFight I Know You're in There Somewhere Fight]], and Hinawa's ghost pleads with them to remember their past, past and the stop fighting. The two then have a flashback to when they were babies and babies, when their parents hoped for the best for their future. futures and had faith that they'd grow up to be wonderful people. This is what finally gets Claus to return to his senses.]]



** Lucas gets a couple at the start of Chapter 4, where he's reminded [[spoiler: of the [[MissingMom painful absence of his Mother]] when he tries to leave the house before getting dressed and [[TearJerker while he's dressing himself alone.]]]]
** Also happens in Chapter 6, Lucas gets one right before [[spoiler: he sees his Mother's ghost.]]



* ForcedIntoEvil:[[spoiler:[[BrainwashedAndCrazy The Masked Man]].]]

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* ForcedIntoEvil:[[spoiler:[[BrainwashedAndCrazy ForcedIntoEvil: [[spoiler:[[BrainwashedAndCrazy The Masked Man]].]]



** Probably the most Notable examples are [[spoiler: the Foreshadowing towards the fact that Claus is actually the true identity of the Masked Man, Commander of the Pig Army.]] First it's implied when [[spoiler: Lucas is somehow mistaken for the Masked Man and is said to look exactly like him.]] Then after Lucas finds out that only he has the power to [[spoiler: pull the Needles that can awaken the Dark Dragon and use PK Love, something that not even the Magypsies can do]], he later discovers that the Mysterious Masked Man [[spoiler: is also able to pull the Needles and use PK Love just like him.]] This one is especially telling if you remember that [[spoiler: before Claus went to fight the Mecha Drago, the Magypsies said that they awakened the power of PSI inside him, and gave him a "Very Special PSI Technique".]] There's also the fact that [[spoiler: when you fight the Masked Man, his Physical Attacks have the same Musical Riffs as Claus's did back in Chapter 1.]] And finally, everytime Lucas and [[spoiler: the Masked Man]] meet face to face, [[spoiler: they both are at a loss for words and have FlashbackStares, implying that they recognize each other on some level.]] It's easy for people to see the Plot Twist coming very early on with how much Foreshadowing is laid out for it.



* {{Forgiveness}}: [[spoiler:What makes Claus's final words even more tragic. All he asks for is for his brother to forgive his wrongdoings.]]

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* {{Forgiveness}}: [[spoiler:What [[spoiler: What makes Claus's final words even more tragic. All he asks for is for his brother to forgive his wrongdoings.]]
17th Jul '17 1:05:58 AM spiderfreak1011
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** The Game starts with Lucas's family all living happily together [[spoiler: before they're torn apart by the Pigmask army, with Hinawa's death, Claus's disappearance, and Flint all but abandoning Lucas to search for Claus, leaving Lucas and Boney alone.]] In the Final Battle, [[spoiler: the whole family is re-united at the final Needle, even Hinawa through the means of appearing as a ghost to save Claus, only to be separated again for the final time with Claus joining Hinawa in death.]]

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** The Game starts with Lucas's family all living happily together [[spoiler: before they're torn apart by the Pigmask army, with Hinawa's death, Claus's disappearance, and Flint all but abandoning Lucas to search for Claus, leaving Lucas and Boney alone.]] In During the Final Battle, [[spoiler: the whole family is re-united at the final Last Needle, even Hinawa through the means of appearing as a ghost to save Claus, only for them to be separated again for the final time time, with Claus joining Hinawa in death.]]
** The First Battle of Mother 3 has Lucas and Claus fighting a Mole Cricket together. [[spoiler: The Final Battle of the game also has them fighting, but this time it's against each other.
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* CainAndAbel: [[spoiler: Claus and Lucas are this. [[BrainwashedAndCrazy Not that they want to.]] ]]

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* CainAndAbel: [[spoiler: Claus and Lucas are this. and Claus. [[BrainwashedAndCrazy Not that they want to.to be.]] ]]



* CallBack: The game starts off the same way Earthbound did, with a boy sleeping in his PJs being woken up by loud Knocking on the door.
** Also, the start of Chapter 4 mirrors Chapter 1's aforementioned Call Back, with Lucas waking up in his PJs at home. [[spoiler: Except this time he has no Mom or Brother to wake him up by knocking on the door.]]

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* CallBack: The game starts off the same way Earthbound did, with a boy sleeping in his PJs pajamas being woken up by loud Knocking on the door.
** Also, the start of Chapter 4 mirrors Chapter 1's aforementioned Call Back, with Earthbound's iconic "Rise and Shine" music playing while Lucas waking wakes up in his PJs pajamas at home. [[spoiler: Except this time he has no Mom or Brother to wake him up by knocking on the door.]]



** The Runaway Five in Earthbound save Ness and Jeff from the Clumsy Robot by joining in the fray and fighting him, flipping his switch to de-activate him. [[spoiler: [[BigDamnHeroes The DCMC come to the rescue]] when Lucas and co. are fighting a HopelessBattle against the Porky Bots.]]

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** The Runaway Five in Earthbound save Ness and Jeff from the Clumsy Robot by joining in the fray and fighting him, flipping his switch to de-activate him. [[spoiler: [[BigDamnHeroes The DCMC come to the rescue]] when Lucas and co. are fighting a HopelessBattle HopelessBossFight against the Porky Bots.]]



** Also happens in Chapter 6, Lucas gets one right before [[spoiler: he sees his Mother's ghost.]]


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** Lucas gets a couple at the start of Chapter 4, where he's reminded [[spoiler: of the [[MissingMom painful absence of his Mother]] when he tries to leave the house before getting dressed and [[TearJerker while he's dressing himself alone.]]]]
** Also happens in Chapter 6, Lucas gets one right before [[spoiler: he sees his Mother's ghost.]]
11th Jul '17 8:54:52 PM billybobfred
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* DigitalPiracyIsOkay: [[NoExportForYou It's not like Nintendo is giving us any choice in the matter...]]
** There is a fan-translation, but it's really rare and not available as a rom.
12th Jun '17 4:44:06 PM Aipom-pom
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* AllForNothing: One interpretation to [[spoiler: the ending.]]
** [[spoiler:While listening to Leder's speech, one might start to believe that all of the events in ''VideoGame/{{EarthBound}}'' were technically this [[FridgeHorror if thought about long enough.]]]]



* ArcWords: It first appears on a gravestone in Tazmily's Sunset Cemetary, but is later mimicked a notable number of times throughout the game.

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* ArcWords: It first appears on a gravestone in Tazmily's Sunset Cemetary, Cemetery, but is later mimicked a notable number of times throughout the game.



-->''There are ants under your feet. You might accidentally step on them, so please don't cotinue in that direction.''

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-->''There are ants under your feet. You might accidentally step on them, so please don't cotinue continue in that direction.''



* CuteCrittersActChildlike: Subverted by the Mr. Saturns. They're cute, innocent, playful, friendly, have a bizarre speaking syntax and their dialogue is even written n in a font resembling loopy, childish handwriting. Despite this, however, they are extremely intelligent and capable of building technology lightyears ahead of what humans can.

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* CuteCrittersActChildlike: Subverted by the Mr. Saturns. They're cute, innocent, playful, friendly, have a bizarre speaking syntax and their dialogue is even written n in in a font resembling loopy, childish handwriting. Despite this, however, they are extremely intelligent and capable of building technology lightyears light years ahead of what humans can.



** Also, at one point in Chapter 4, the term "sexual harrassment" is explicitly used.

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** Also, at one point in Chapter 4, the term "sexual harrassment" harassment" is explicitly used.



* PointOfNoReturn: Getting rid of the vines blocking the sixth needle will prevent you from ever going back to the rest of the game, forcing you to move on with the plot and enter New Pork City, which is seperate from the rest of the game.

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* PointOfNoReturn: Getting rid of the vines blocking the sixth needle will prevent you from ever going back to the rest of the game, forcing you to move on with the plot and enter New Pork City, which is seperate separate from the rest of the game.



* {{Tagline}}: ''"Strange, Funny, Heartrending."'' Thos game definitely lives up to all of these words, being as quirky and odd as Earthbound could be, as well as having what's considered to be one of the most heart-rending stories ever in a Video Game.

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* {{Tagline}}: ''"Strange, Funny, Heartrending."'' Thos This game definitely lives up to all of these words, being as quirky and odd as Earthbound could be, as well as having what's considered to be one of the most heart-rending stories ever in a Video Game.
11th Jun '17 10:11:12 AM spiderfreak1011
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* CosmicPlaything: Pretty much [[CrapSackWorld everybody on the good side]], really. [[ItSucksToBeTheChosenOne Lucas especially takes the brunt of this.]]
* CosyCatastrophe: When the party finds out that [[spoiler: they're living in a post apocalyptic world and humans

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* CosmicPlaything: Pretty much [[CrapSackWorld everybody on the good side]], really.https://smashboards.com/threads/read-this-first-directory-of-tutorials-help-threads-links-faqs-updated-7-25.262863/#faqreally. [[ItSucksToBeTheChosenOne Lucas especially takes the brunt of this.]]
* CosyCatastrophe: When the party finds out that [[spoiler: they're living in a post apocalyptic The residents of Tazmily Village]] are revealed to be this because they [[spoiler: brainwashed themselves into forgetting that the rest of the world was destroyed and humans technology existed in order to live comfortable lives in ignorance of this fact.]]
11th Jun '17 10:07:04 AM spiderfreak1011
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%%** [[spoiler:ArmyOfTheAges]]

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%%** [[spoiler:ArmyOfTheAges]]** [[spoiler:ArmyOfTheAges]]: Though, not neccessarily handpicking Powerful Warriors persay, [[spoiler: Porky's Pigmask Army is mostly comprised of people he's pulled from various points in time who know of industrialized society, and bring it to the Nowhere Islands.]]



%%*** AmusementPark

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%%*** AmusementPark*** AmusementPark: Pretty much all of [[spoiler: New Pork City]] is this.



* CosmicPlaything: Pretty much [[CrapSackWorld everybody on the good side]], really.
%%* CosyCatastrophe

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* CosmicPlaything: Pretty much [[CrapSackWorld everybody on the good side]], really.
%%* CosyCatastrophe
really. [[ItSucksToBeTheChosenOne Lucas especially takes the brunt of this.]]
* CosyCatastrophe: When the party finds out that [[spoiler: they're living in a post apocalyptic world and humans



%% [[FightingYourFriend Fighting Your Brother]]

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%% * [[FightingYourFriend Fighting Your Brother]]Brother]]: Happens [[spoiler: twice with Lucas and Claus post timeskip.]]



%%* FragileSpeedster: Both Boney and Salsa. Makes sense, since they're animals and all.

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%%* * FragileSpeedster: Both Boney and Salsa. Makes sense, since Salsa are the speedy party members of the game, given that they're animals animals. Boney, and all.especially Salsa cannot take much damage though.



%%* IdleAnimation

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%%* IdleAnimation* IdleAnimation: Each Character, even guest star party members gets one of these. For Example, Kumatora yawns and Boney scratches his side with his leg.



%% InTheEndYouAreOnYourOwn

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%% InTheEndYouAreOnYourOwn* InTheEndYouAreOnYourOwn: [[spoiler: The Final Battle has Lucas alone facing off against his Brother, and being unable to bring himself to attack.]]



%%** WrittenSoundEffect

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%%** WrittenSoundEffect** WrittenSoundEffect: [[CriticalHit SMAAAAAAAAAAASH!]]
3rd Jun '17 10:00:26 AM CombativeBoil
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** [[HumansAreBastards Humankind is a flawed, childish race]].

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** [[HumansAreBastards [[HumansAreFlawed Humankind is a flawed, childish race]].
24th May '17 12:16:06 PM spiderfreak1011
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* {{Deconstruction}}: This game is this to the ''VideoGame/{{MOTHER}}'' series. Not only do you start off on a rural town on some Islands that aren't even remotely like a Modern Era continent that resembles America, and the fact that there isn't even a concept of Money in your hometown, [[spoiler: the villains aren't Aliens from outerspace, they're ''Humans'' who've been corrupted by their own greed and selfishness that are working for the BigBad in order to industrialize the Islands.]] You don't play as the true Main Character until Chapter 4, and even then the Main Party doesn't consist of 4 kids anymore, but of a kid, [[ABoyandHisX his dog]], and [[IntergenerationalFriendship 2 friends that are way older than him.]] Each character in the role of the Main Character for each part of the game are [[HeroicMime Silent Protagonists]], but the game fully acknowledges and shows you that when they're not in that role, they all speak normally like any other NPCs and have their own personalities, including main protagonist Lucas. That being said, even while in this role, Lucas in particular still has his own personality bleed through and be noticable during particular (mostly emotional) moments despite this, completely changing the formula that Ninten and Ness set before him. And lastly, the game deconstructs the use of the ArtifactTitle that ''VideoGame/MOTHER2'' brought to the series, by [[spoiler: having Lucas's own Mother be a major focal part of the story through her death and how that event sets the tone of the story and the actions of the characters from then on, as well as her role in the Finale.]] Overall, the world and setting are much fantasy-esque than before, deconstructing the series to the point of bringing it back to more traditional EasternRPGs roots like Final Fantasy. Which is to be expected, when you end up deconstructing a game series that is known for deconstructing the RPG Genre to begin with.

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* {{Deconstruction}}: This The game is this to the ''VideoGame/{{MOTHER}}'' series. Not only do you start off on a rural town on some a group of Islands that aren't even remotely like a Modern Era continent that resembles America, and the fact that there isn't even a concept of Money in your hometown, [[spoiler: the villains aren't Aliens from outerspace, they're ''Humans'' who've been corrupted by their own greed and selfishness that are working for the BigBad in order to industrialize the Islands.]] You don't play as the true Main Character until Chapter 4, and even then the Main Party doesn't consist of 4 kids anymore, but of a kid, [[KidHero kid]], [[ABoyandHisX his dog]], and [[IntergenerationalFriendship 2 friends that are way older than him.]] Each character in the role of the Main Character for each part of the game are [[HeroicMime Silent Protagonists]], but the game fully acknowledges and shows you that when they're not in that role, they all speak normally like any other NPCs [[NPC NPCs]] and have their own personalities, including main protagonist Lucas. That being said, even while in this role, Lucas in particular still has his own personality bleed through and be noticable his silent exterior during particular (mostly emotional) moments of the game despite this, completely changing the formula that Ninten and Ness set before him. And lastly, the game deconstructs the use of the ArtifactTitle that ''VideoGame/MOTHER2'' brought to the series, by [[spoiler: having Lucas's own Mother be a major focal part of the story through her death death, and how that event sets the tone of the story and influences the actions of the characters from then on, as well as her role in the Finale.]] Overall, the world and setting are much more medieval and fantasy-esque than before, deconstructing the series to the point of bringing it back to more traditional EasternRPGs EasternRPG roots like Final Fantasy. Which is to be expected, when you end up deconstructing a game series that is known for deconstructing the RPG Genre to begin with.
24th May '17 9:52:55 AM PegaFoxx
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* [[spoiler:AmbiguousEnding]]: See [[spoiler: GainaxEnding below.]]

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* [[spoiler:AmbiguousEnding]]: AmbiguousEnding: See [[spoiler: GainaxEnding below.]]



* [[spoiler:AngstySurvivingTwin: ''Hooooo'' boy...]]

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* [[spoiler:AngstySurvivingTwin: AngstySurvivingTwin: ''Hooooo'' boy...]]



* [[spoiler:EarnYourHappyEnding]]: There are ''[[AmbiguousEnding multiple]]'' ways to interpret the ending, but if you interpret it happily, ''definitely'' this.

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* [[spoiler:EarnYourHappyEnding]]: EarnYourHappyEnding: There are ''[[AmbiguousEnding multiple]]'' ways to interpret the ending, but if you interpret it happily, ''definitely'' this.



* [[spoiler:EvilTwin:]] Subverted. Cruelly, ''cruelly'' subverted.
* [[spoiler:EvilWillFail: The BigBad's untimely defeat supports this.]]

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* [[spoiler:EvilTwin:]] EvilTwin: Subverted. Cruelly, ''cruelly'' subverted.
* [[spoiler:EvilWillFail: The EvilWillFail: [[Spoiler:The BigBad's untimely defeat supports this.]]



* [[spoiler:[[FightingYourFriend Fighting Your Brother]]]]

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* [[spoiler:[[FightingYourFriend %% [[FightingYourFriend Fighting Your Brother]]]]Brother]]



* [[Flashback]]: A very important one happens in the Final Battle. [[spoiler: Lucas and Claus are fighting each other, and Hinawa's ghost pleads with them to remember their past, and the two have a flashback to when they were babies and their parents hoped for the best for their future. This finally gets Claus to return to his senses.]]

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* [[Flashback]]: {{Flashback}}: A very important one happens in the Final Battle. [[spoiler: Lucas and Claus are fighting each other, and Hinawa's ghost pleads with them to remember their past, and the two have a flashback to when they were babies and their parents hoped for the best for their future. This finally gets Claus to return to his senses.]]



* [[spoiler: GainaxEnding]]: ''SO MUCH''.

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* [[spoiler: GainaxEnding]]: GainaxEnding: ''SO MUCH''.



* [[spoiler: ImpersonatingTheEvilTwin]]: Not on purpose, though.

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* [[spoiler: ImpersonatingTheEvilTwin]]: ImpersonatingTheEvilTwin: Not on purpose, though.



* [[spoiler:InTheEndYouAreOnYourOwn]]

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* [[spoiler:InTheEndYouAreOnYourOwn]]%% InTheEndYouAreOnYourOwn



* [[spoiler: NoEnding]]: No matter what way you look at it, in terms of literary devices, ''MOTHER 3'' seems to be [[spoiler: lacking a resolution.]] However, Itoi would rather let the player [[spoiler: imagine the ending]] instead.

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* [[spoiler: NoEnding]]: NoEnding: No matter what way you look at it, in terms of literary devices, ''MOTHER 3'' seems to be [[spoiler: lacking a resolution.]] However, Itoi would rather let the player [[spoiler: imagine the ending]] instead.



* [[spoiler: SuddenDownerEnding]]: But [[TakeOurWordForIt it gets better.]] [[GainaxEnding Maybe.]]

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* [[spoiler: SuddenDownerEnding]]: SuddenDownerEnding: But [[TakeOurWordForIt it gets better.]] [[GainaxEnding Maybe.]]



* [[spoiler: TwinTelepathy]]: Clearly ''something'' is going on when [[spoiler: Lucas and the Masked Man meet each other at each needle. The Flashing Colors and their elipses each time they see each other imply that on some level they know who they're looking at.]]

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* [[spoiler: TwinTelepathy]]: TwinTelepathy: Clearly ''something'' is going on when [[spoiler: Lucas and the Masked Man meet each other at each needle. The Flashing Colors and their elipses each time they see each other imply that on some level they know who they're looking at.]]



* [[spoiler: WeakerTwinSavesTheDay]]: Important. Very, very important...

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* [[spoiler: WeakerTwinSavesTheDay]]: WeakerTwinSavesTheDay: Important. Very, very important...
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