History VideoGame / Mother3

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* NeverFoundTheBody: [[spoiler:Claus.]] Presumably, this is why Flint is so adamant about continuing to search for him, even after ''three years''.

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* NeverFoundTheBody: [[spoiler:Claus.]] Presumably, this is why Flint [[spoiler: Flint]] is so adamant about continuing to search for him, even after ''three years''.
23rd Mar '17 10:56:11 AM spiderfreak1011
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* DeceasedParentsAreTheBest: Sadly enough, [[spoiler:Hinawa is killed in the first few minutes of the game. While the game exemplifies that Hinawa is a great mother throughout the whole game, Flint, on the other hand, is seen as neglectful and distant towards Lucas after her death (that is, in the search of Lucas's brother, Claus). However, Flint makes it up during the final battle between Claus and Lucas.]]

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* DeceasedParentsAreTheBest: [[spoiler: DeceasedParentsAreTheBest]]: Sadly enough, [[spoiler:Hinawa is killed in the first few minutes of the game. While the game exemplifies that Hinawa is a great mother throughout the whole game, Flint, on the other hand, is seen as neglectful and distant towards Lucas after her death (that is, in the search of Lucas's brother, Claus). However, Flint makes it up during the final battle between Claus and Lucas.]]



* MacGuffin: The Seven Needles.

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* MacGuffin: [[spoiler: The Seven Needles.]]



* [[spoiler:MissingMom]]: She's violently killed by a [[BrainwashedAndCrazy Mecha-Drago]] at the beginning of the game.

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* [[spoiler:MissingMom]]: She's [[spoiler: Lucas's mom]] is violently killed by a [[spoiler: [[BrainwashedAndCrazy Mecha-Drago]] ]] at the beginning of the game.



* NiceJobFixingItVillain:He invites and takes you to [[spoiler:New Pork City]], the location of the final needle. A bit later, he [[spoiler:drops you down to the underground area containing it]]. Had he not done either of those things, he would probably have had the final needle to himself. It's almost as if he wanted to lose.

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* NiceJobFixingItVillain:He invites and takes you to [[spoiler:New Pork City]], the location of the final needle. A bit later, he [[spoiler:drops you down to the underground area containing it]]. Had he not done either of those things, he would probably have had [[spoiler: the final needle needle]] all to himself. It's almost as if he wanted as if he wanted to lose.lose.
** For some strange reason, instead of [[spoiler: pulling the Last Needle when he gets there before your party, Masked Man just kneels there waiting at the needle until you show up. Perhaps [[FridgeBrilliance some part of Claus left in him was holding back.]] ]]



* NoEnding: No matter what way you look at it, in terms of literary devices, ''MOTHER 3'' seems to be lacking a resolution. However, Itoi would rather let the player imagine the ending instead.

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* NoEnding: [[spoiler: NoEnding]]: No matter what way you look at it, in terms of literary devices, ''MOTHER 3'' seems to be [[spoiler: lacking a resolution. resolution.]] However, Itoi would rather let the player [[spoiler: imagine the ending ending]] instead.



* ParentalNeglect: Flint to Lucas, unintentionally so. He's so desperate to find his older son, Claus, that he barely comes home to look after his other one. [[spoiler:Subverted at the end when he takes two deadly hits to protect Lucas from Claus's blows, showing that he does care for him as much.]]

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* ParentalNeglect: Flint to Lucas, unintentionally so. He's so desperate to [[spoiler: find his older son, Claus, Claus,]] that he barely comes home to look after his other one.Lucas. [[spoiler:Subverted at the end when he takes two deadly hits to protect Lucas from Claus's blows, showing that he does care for him as much.]]



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** The narration at the end of Chapter 1 questions the whereabouts of Claus... [[spoiler:when he's actually lying face down on the ground, having fallen from the Plateau after trying to engage the Drago. From the looks of it, he could either be unconscious but badly injured, or he could flat out dead. Considering how he's only 9 years old, its most likely that he's dead. Except for the fact that he was turned into Porky's slave before he died.]]

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** The narration at the end of Chapter 1 questions the whereabouts of Claus...[[spoiler:Claus]]... [[spoiler:when he's actually lying face down on the ground, having fallen from the Plateau after trying to engage the Drago. From the looks of it, he could either be unconscious but badly injured, or he could flat out dead. Considering how he's only 9 years old, its most likely that he's dead. Except for the fact that he was turned into Porky's slave before he died.]]



* TookALevelInJerkass: The Tazmily townsfolk will become greedier and more self-centered once Fassad's modernized it three years post-Hinawa's death, and will badmouth Lucas for not owning a Happy Box.

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* TookALevelInJerkass: The Tazmily townsfolk will become greedier and more self-centered once Fassad's modernized it three years [[spoiler: post-Hinawa's death, death]], and will badmouth Lucas for not owning a Happy Box.



** After [[spoiler:Hinawa dies]], Claus runs away to the mountains to try and avenge her. Note that the thing that killed her is a [[ItMakesSenseInContext half-robot tyrannosaurus rex]], and he's a nine-year old boy armed with a steak knife.

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** After [[spoiler:Hinawa dies]], Claus runs away to the mountains [[spoiler: to try and avenge her. her.]] Note that the thing that killed her is a [[spoiler: [[ItMakesSenseInContext half-robot tyrannosaurus rex]], rex]] ]], and he's a nine-year old boy armed with a steak knife.



* VagueAge: Lucas is about twelve, assuming he's the same age as the other Mother protagonists; Duster is at least in his twenties, but could be much older, and Kumatora is somewhere in the middle.

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* VagueAge: Lucas is about twelve, assuming he's the same age as the other Mother protagonists; Duster is at least in his twenties, but could be much older, and Kumatora is somewhere in around the middle.middle, possibly around 14 pre time skip, 17 post.
23rd Mar '17 10:35:08 AM spiderfreak1011
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** After [[spoiler: Hinawa's funeral, but before Flint sets out to rescue Claus]], if you go down past Scamp's house to where the Pigs are, you'll find [[spoiler: Fassad who's about to go and start talking to the Village about the concept of money.]] Makes sense continuity wise, granted that [[spoiler: he arrives in the village and introduces money the very same day.]]



* DinosaursAreDragons: The dragos, animals who are indistinguishable in every way from tyrannosaurus rexes, except for the fact that they're as friendly as puppies. The only exception is the Drago that was kidnapped and turned into the Mecha-Drago.

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* DinosaursAreDragons: The dragos, animals who are indistinguishable in every way from tyrannosaurus rexes, except for the fact that they're as friendly as puppies. The only exception is the Drago [[spoiler: that was kidnapped and turned into the Mecha-Drago.]]



** There's also an [[DummiedOut unused sprite]] of [[spoiler: Hinawa's ghost dissapearing into light.]]



* DoWellButNotPerfect: Porky will force you to play a series of competitive challenges against his pathetically inept Porky-bots during the ascent through the Empire Porky Building. The only way to progress is to give a 90-99% percent effort and lose by a hair or else Pokey will get mad and accuse you of cheating (win a game) or losing on purpose without trying (lose a game by more than a hair).

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* DoWellButNotPerfect: Porky [[spoiler: Porky]] will force you to play a series of competitive challenges against his pathetically inept [[spoiler: Porky-bots during the ascent through the Empire Porky Building. Building.]] The only way to progress is to give a 90-99% percent effort and lose by a hair or else Pokey he will get mad and accuse you of cheating (win a game) or losing on purpose without trying (lose a game by more than a hair).



** Everytime Lucas and the Masked Man come face to face [[spoiler: and don't recognize their twin.]]



* EvilDetectingDog: There is a segment in the game where Lucas, Kumatora, and Duster eat some [[MushroomSamba unusual mushrooms]] while desperate for food. The mushrooms cause them to hallucinate that the monsters in the area are characters from their pasts. The party dog, Boney, is the only one not fooled, and whines and barks when hallucinations begin to talk to the characters, attempting to warn the rest of the party as to their true nature. He also refuses to get into a beautiful sauna the party can rest in - if you visit it again after the effects of the mushrooms have worn off, you'll find the humans were [[spoiler:deliriously bathing in toxic sludge.]]

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* EvilDetectingDog: There is a segment in the game where Lucas, Kumatora, and Duster eat some [[MushroomSamba unusual mushrooms]] while desperate for food. The mushrooms cause them to hallucinate that the monsters in the area are [[spoiler: characters from their pasts. pasts and are tormenting them with their fears.]] The party dog, Boney, is the only one not fooled, and whines and barks when hallucinations begin to talk to the characters, attempting to warn the rest of the party as to their true nature. He also refuses to get into a beautiful sauna the party can rest in - if you visit it again after the effects of the mushrooms have worn off, you'll find the humans were [[spoiler:deliriously bathing in toxic sludge.]]



* GainaxEnding: ''SO MUCH''.

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* GainaxEnding: [[spoiler: GainaxEnding]]: ''SO MUCH''.



** Played straighter, though, in his relationship with [[AlwaysSomeoneBetter Ness]].

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** Played straighter, though, in his relationship [[spoiler: with [[AlwaysSomeoneBetter Ness]].]]



* ILetGwenStacyDie: One can argue that Lucas blames himself for [[spoiler:his brother's]] death, since he turned down the offer to leave with him on the journey that killed him. Same goes for Flint and [[spoiler:Hinawa]].

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* ILetGwenStacyDie: One can argue that Lucas blames himself for [[spoiler:his brother's]] death, since he turned down the offer to leave with him on the journey that killed him.him, or even try to stop him from leaving. Same goes for Flint and [[spoiler:Hinawa]].


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** The trope also applies to [[spoiler: Claus for the same reasoning as mentioned above, him being forced to become the Masked Man being the some of the worst of it.]]
21st Mar '17 6:51:05 PM spiderfreak1011
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** Also, when Flint saves Fuel from being trapped in a Burning House, the two are covered in soot, and if you go into a hot spring while like this, the only thing that'll be left covered in soot are their faces.



* CainAndAbel: Claus and Lucas are this. [[BrainwashedAndCrazy Not that they want to.]]

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* CainAndAbel: [[spoiler: Claus and Lucas are this. [[BrainwashedAndCrazy Not that they want to.]] ]]



* ChekhovsGunman: [[spoiler:Leder. Also Hinawa, who indirectly saves Lucas and Kumatora in Chapter 7.]]

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* ChekhovsGunman: [[spoiler:Leder. Also Hinawa, who indirectly saves Lucas and Kumatora in Chapter 7.]]



* DeathSeeker: Implied with Lucas, twice. First time is a little-known dialogue chain from "[[FanNickname Mr. T]]" if you try to go down the train tunnel without first talking to Old Man Wess. [[BlackComedy It's very funny]]. [[spoiler:The second is during Chapter 6, when he sees his mother's ghost walking through a sunflower field. While he tearfully chases after her, in an act of desperation, he ends up pitching himself off a cliff]]. [[TearJerker It's not funny at all.]]

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* DeathSeeker: Implied with Lucas, twice. First time is a little-known dialogue chain from "[[FanNickname Mr. T]]" if you try to go down the train tunnel without first talking to Old Man Wess. [[BlackComedy It's very funny]]. [[spoiler:The second is during Chapter 6, when he sees his mother's ghost walking through a sunflower field. While he tearfully chases after her, in an act of desperation, he ends up pitching himself off a cliff]].cliff trying to reach her]]. [[TearJerker It's not funny at all.]]



* [[spoiler:During the final battle with Claus, Hinawa calls for Claus to stop attacking Lucas repeatedly. If Lucas (you) fight back (the only time you can is when Flint is blasted with PK Love Ω), Hinawa will tell YOU to stop. Her constant pleas finally ring in Claus's ears, causing him to regain control long enough to end the fight...with him as the loser.]]

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* ** [[spoiler:During the final battle with Claus, Hinawa calls for Claus to stop attacking Lucas repeatedly. If Lucas (you) fight back (the only time you can is when Flint is blasted with PK Love Ω), Hinawa will tell YOU to stop. Her constant pleas finally ring in Claus's ears, causing him to regain control long enough to end the fight...with him as the loser.]]



* DeusExitMachina: In Chapter 5, when Violet [[spoiler:(Kumatora)]] makes Lucas and Boney go through the attic, one of the most difficult areas in the game, by themselves to avoid conflict with the guards. The worst part? [[spoiler:A few sniffs from Boney will reveal that nearly everything in there, including [[ThatOneBoss the Jealous Bass]], is [[WeakToFire weak to Kumatora's PK Fire]].]]

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* DeusExitMachina: In Chapter 5, 4, when Violet [[spoiler:(Kumatora)]] makes Lucas and Boney go through the attic, one of the most difficult areas in the game, by themselves to avoid conflict with the guards. The worst part? [[spoiler:A few sniffs from Boney will reveal that nearly everything in there, including [[ThatOneBoss the Jealous Bass]], is [[WeakToFire weak to Kumatora's PK Fire]].]]
20th Mar '17 10:42:45 PM spiderfreak1011
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** When the party is [[MushroomSamba hallucinating]] on Tanetane Island, Lucas gets a vision of his father threatening to beat him. It's fairly unlikely that this has actually happened to him in real life, but it's apparently something he's deeply afraid of.

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** When the party is [[spoiler: [[MushroomSamba hallucinating]] on Tanetane Island, Island,]] Lucas gets a vision of his father threatening to beat him. It's fairly unlikely that this has actually happened to him in real life, but it's apparently something he's deeply afraid of.



* BewareTheNiceOnes: Lucas. Just because he's a little boy doesn't mean you should take him lightly.

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** During the Final Battle, [[spoiler: when Masked Man wounds Flint with TWO PK Love Omegas, Lucas can then attack him out of rage for hurting his father.]]
* BewareTheNiceOnes: Lucas. Just because he's a sensitive little boy doesn't mean you should take him lightly.
17th Mar '17 11:46:34 PM easyaspi314
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* ArcNumber: The number 7. There are technically 7 characters that the player can control in battle in the game.[[note]]Lucas, Flint, Claus, Boney, Salsa, Duster and Kumatora.[[/note]] There are Duster's ''Almost 7'' Thief Tools, the 7 Magypsies, and [[spoiler:the 7 Needles keeping the Dragon underneath the islands asleep.]]

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* ArcNumber: The number 7. There are technically 7 characters that the player can control in battle in the game.[[note]]Lucas, Flint, Claus, Boney, Salsa, Duster and Kumatora.[[/note]] There are Duster's ''Almost 7'' Thief Tools, the 7 Magypsies, 7 full-length Chapters, and [[spoiler:the 7 Needles keeping the Dragon underneath the islands asleep.]]


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* DeusExitMachina: In Chapter 5, when Violet [[spoiler:(Kumatora)]] makes Lucas and Boney go through the attic, one of the most difficult areas in the game, by themselves to avoid conflict with the guards. The worst part? [[spoiler:A few sniffs from Boney will reveal that nearly everything in there, including [[ThatOneBoss the Jealous Bass]], is [[WeakToFire weak to Kumatora's PK Fire]].]]
14th Mar '17 3:29:27 PM Doughdoughbird
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* LetsPlay: There [[http://www.gameanyone.com/game/GBA/9043.html are a]] [[http://lparchive.org/Mother-3/ couple of]] [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUxwSyVttF0 entertaining]] [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0muQ0yvQL0 ones.]]
28th Feb '17 6:53:44 PM finalsurvivor1
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* FinalBoss: [[spoiler:Porky Minch]]. See also PostFinalBoss below.

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* FinalBoss: [[spoiler:Porky Minch]]. Minch]] is the final opponent of the game with a feasible chance of winning, and is fittingly the central antagonist. See also PostFinalBoss below.below for the fight that comes after.



* PostFinalBoss: [[spoiler:The second fight with Claus, the Masked Man.]]

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* PostFinalBoss: [[spoiler:The second fight with Claus, the Masked Man. While the scenario is undeniably emotional and serious, the fight itself is easy since all you have to do is defend and heal, all in addition to the fact that Porky is taken care of before this fight.]]
24th Feb '17 7:24:33 PM rjd1922
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** This game was originally going to be even ''[[DarkerAndEdgier DARKER]]'' than the final version. The DummiedOut "nightmare" backgrounds show that some of these elements were in the GBA game for a part of its development, too.

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** This game was originally going to be even ''[[DarkerAndEdgier DARKER]]'' ''DARKER'' than the final version. The DummiedOut "nightmare" backgrounds show that some of these elements were in the GBA game for a part of its development, too.



** There are even [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upV_Vjhh6y4 unused]] [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdF45BIt6mQ cutscenes]]! Three of them seem to be flashbacks meant to play during the final battle (Lucas's childhood memories), while two of them appear to be from the ending (dealing with [[{{Bowdlerise}} the ultimate fate of]] [[spoiler:Salsa and Alec, who were the only ones left behind when everyone moved to New Pork City, surrounded with burnt animal corpses and falling meteorites.]])

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** There are even [[http://www.[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upV_Vjhh6y4 com/watch?v=2REnrYqqPZU unused]] [[http://www.[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdF45BIt6mQ com/watch?v=qENvfKEK6uk cutscenes]]! Three of them seem to be flashbacks meant to play during the final battle (Lucas's childhood memories), while two of them appear to be from the ending (dealing with [[{{Bowdlerise}} the ultimate fate of]] [[spoiler:Salsa and Alec, who were the only ones left behind when everyone moved to New Pork City, surrounded with burnt animal corpses and falling meteorites.]])
23rd Feb '17 2:07:19 PM Gosicrystal
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* LostForever: If you don't go all the way back to Tazmily and fight [[BonusBoss Lord Passion]] during Chapter Five, say goodbye to Duster's DiscOneNuke weapon forever.



* [[spoiler:TheLostLenore]]: After [[spoiler:Hinawa]] is tragically killed, [[spoiler:Flint]]... doesn't exactly recover. Maybe he'd have taken it better, if not for the fact that [[spoiler:his son went missing]] ''[[DeusAngstMachina less than a day later]]''.

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* [[spoiler:TheLostLenore]]: TheLostLenore: After [[spoiler:Hinawa]] is tragically killed, [[spoiler:Flint]]... doesn't exactly recover. Maybe he'd have taken it better, if not for the fact that [[spoiler:his son went missing]] ''[[DeusAngstMachina less than a day later]]''.


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* PermanentlyMissableContent: If you don't go all the way back to Tazmily and fight [[BonusBoss Lord Passion]] during Chapter Five, say goodbye to Duster's DiscOneNuke weapon forever.
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