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* NoobCave: Averted hard. It is actually quite easy to die in that first cave where you pursue Annie. In fact, you should probably grind a few levels here before you do anything.

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* NoobCave: Averted hard.Averted. It is actually quite easy to die in that first cave where you pursue Annie. In fact, you should probably grind a few levels here before you do anything.

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* NintendoHard: A few hours into the game, you will encounter Elves, possibly the first normal enemy with an all-party attack (WindLevel1), and it will be brutal. After this point, mental-note white foes will uses area attacks and kill them asap. Also applies to the Water Guardian, the first real boss, encountered some 10 hours in, at the end of a long dungeon, and it sucks (IceLevel2).

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* NintendoHard: A few hours into the game, you will encounter Elves, possibly the first normal enemy with an all-party attack (WindLevel1), and it will be brutal. After this point, mental-note white which foes will uses area attacks and kill them asap. Also applies to the Water Guardian, the first real boss, encountered some 10 hours in, at the end of a long dungeon, and it sucks (IceLevel2).(IceLevel2).
* NoobCave: Averted hard. It is actually quite easy to die in that first cave where you pursue Annie. In fact, you should probably grind a few levels here before you do anything.

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* CriticalAttack: And performed while the character is on fire! Except for Finn, who performs a unique combo attack with his dragon pal.



* GuideDangIt: You'd think the game would at least tell you what the items or spells do. Also, good luck finding a number of locations without a lot of aimless wandering.



* KingMook: A few forced-encounters against enemy soldiers. Two of these are guarding a specific location and give no outright indication of just how much tougher they are, having several times the HP of normal soldiers and bordering on ''MarathonBoss'' status (or at least ''BaitAndSwitchBoss'' status, capable of one-shotting weaker team members with their arrows. Another one of these guys shows up later with several regular soldiers with him, and it is plainly obvious this time because he is quite noticeably taller than the others.

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* KingMook: A few forced-encounters against enemy soldiers. Two of these are guarding a specific location and give no outright indication of just how much tougher they are, having several times the HP of normal soldiers men and bordering on ''MarathonBoss'' MarathonBoss status (or at least ''BaitAndSwitchBoss'' status, BaitAndSwitchBoss), capable of one-shotting weaker team members with their arrows. Another one of these guys shows up later with several regular soldiers with him, and it is plainly obvious this time because he is quite noticeably taller than the others. You can be easily smashed by either encounter if you think it'll be over in a couple rounds.
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* ButThouMust: That frustrating sliding-block puzzle early on in the game? Yeah, you're going to have to solve that, and no faq can help you since it is randomized positions each time.


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* KingMook: A few forced-encounters against enemy soldiers. Two of these are guarding a specific location and give no outright indication of just how much tougher they are, having several times the HP of normal soldiers and bordering on ''MarathonBoss'' status (or at least ''BaitAndSwitchBoss'' status, capable of one-shotting weaker team members with their arrows. Another one of these guys shows up later with several regular soldiers with him, and it is plainly obvious this time because he is quite noticeably taller than the others.


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* NintendoHard: A few hours into the game, you will encounter Elves, possibly the first normal enemy with an all-party attack (WindLevel1), and it will be brutal. After this point, mental-note white foes will uses area attacks and kill them asap. Also applies to the Water Guardian, the first real boss, encountered some 10 hours in, at the end of a long dungeon, and it sucks (IceLevel2).
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* GoddamnedBats: Even with an encounter rate as notoriously high as this game, it is particularly ludicrous at Bandore Castle.
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* Music by MotoiSakuraba

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* Music by MotoiSakurabaCreator/MotoiSakuraba
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* PrestigeClass: At a certain point in the game, once Finn reaches level 20, he has to complete a long dungeon ([[SoloSequence by himself]]) in order to graduate from Swordsman to Hero. Once he completes the quest, his allies can access their prestige classes at level 20 without having to endure the trial again.
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* NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast: If you see a piece of equipment that has dark-sounding name like 'Dark', 'Devil', etc... well do yourself a favor avoid it, because it's always cursed when you try to equip it.

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* AmbidextrousSprite
* ATasteOfPower: You've got Samson busting heads for about five minutes after he joins the group before he gets affected by his plot-induced curse. Then he becomes TheLoad for a great long while.

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* AmbidextrousSprite
AmbidextrousSprite: Most noticeable during battle, as the characters will switch the hand that they use to hold their weapon depending on the direction they're facing.
* ATasteOfPower: You've got Samson busting heads for about five minutes after he joins the group before he gets affected by his plot-induced curse. Then he becomes TheLoad for a great long while.while, as the curse will either occasionally freeze him in place, or hit him for damage.



* SquishyWizard: All three of the main magic users: Edward, Annie and Tont.
** Literal for Tont after upgrade (If he wasn't that squishy beforehand...)

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* SquishyWizard: All three of the main magic users: Edward, Annie and Tont.
** Literal for Tont
Tont. Taken literally in Tont's case, as he's a slime creature (and he becomes even squishier and gooier after upgrade (If he wasn't that squishy beforehand...)his promotion).



* TookALevelInBadass: Steiner, after you complete the promotion quest. He goes from a harmless-looking baby dragon to a majestic golden wyrm, and you can ride on him and summon him into battle. [[PlotRelevantAgeUp Kid sure grows up fast, doesn't he?]]

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* TookALevelInBadass: Steiner, after you complete the promotion quest. He goes from a harmless-looking baby dragon to a majestic golden wyrm, and you can ride on him and summon him into battle. [[PlotRelevantAgeUp Kid sure grows up fast, doesn't he?]]He becomes useless as a vehicle later on [[spoiler:once you gain control of the Pyramid, which moves much faster and can fly over mountains that Steiner can't]].



* WhiteHairBlackHeart: One of the BigBad, Shutat

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* WhiteHairBlackHeart: One Shutat, one of the BigBad, Shutat{{Big Bad}}s.
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* WhiteHairBlackHeart: One of the BigBad, Shutat
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* WhiteHairedPrettyBoy: Shutat. He even beats [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII Sephiroth]] to the punch by about a year or so.
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* WhiteHairedPrettyBoy: Shutat. He even beats [[FinalFantasyVII Sephiroth]] to the punch by about a year or so.

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* WhiteHairedPrettyBoy: Shutat. He even beats [[FinalFantasyVII [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII Sephiroth]] to the punch by about a year or so.
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* {{Gonk}}: Yeon. Even his battle sprite is perpetually hunched over.

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* {{Gonk}}: Yeon. Even his battle sprite is perpetually hunched over.
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* HopelessBossFight: You'll be forced into one with Ramue if you attempt to leave the Border Church without solving the arbitrary sliding puzzle that's there. Also counts as a NonStandardGameOver.

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* HopelessBossFight: You'll be forced into one with Ramue if you attempt to leave the Border Church without solving the [[SolveTheSoupCans arbitrary sliding puzzle puzzle]] that's there. Also counts as a NonStandardGameOver.
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* StayInTheKitchen: Annie gets hit with this early on when her parents (and the hero's foster parents) send him to the Cave of Spirits on a FetchQuest. Annie asks if she can go too, only to get the "you can't 'cause you're just a girl" treatment. That just makes things worse when she gets pissed and takes off for the cave on her own, where she takes a wrong turn and is almost killed by a Kraken.

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* StayInTheKitchen: Annie gets hit with this early on when her parents (and the hero's Finn's foster parents) send him to the Cave of Spirits on a FetchQuest. Annie asks if she can go too, only to get the "you can't 'cause you're just a girl" treatment. That just makes things worse when she gets pissed and takes off for the cave on her own, where she takes a wrong turn and is almost killed by a Kraken.

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* WeaponOfChoice: Finn and Percy use swords, Domino uses throwing knives, Lorelei fights with her fists, Samson has axes, and everyone else uses staves.

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* WeaponOfChoice: Finn and Percy use swords, Domino uses throwing knives, Lorelei fights with her fists, Samson has axes, and everyone else uses staves.WeaponOfChoice:
** HeroesPreferSwords: Finn, Percy
** SimpleStaff: Annie, Edward, Tont
** AnAxeToGrind: Samson
** KnifeNut: Domino
** BareFistedMonk: Lorelei
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* RoyalsWhoActuallyDoSomething: Edward, and later, Lorelei.

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* OverratedAndUnderleveled: ''Samson''. A big deal is made about his massive physical strength early on, but he's only in your party for a few minutes before he's inflicted with a curse that renders him nigh-useless for the next several hours of the game (and this is before you have the option of switching him out for someone better). Even after you get the curse lifted, he's a GlassCannon that's outclassed by most of the other characters.

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* OverratedAndUnderleveled: ''Samson''.Samson. A big deal is made about his massive physical strength early on, but he's only in your party for a few minutes before he's inflicted with a curse that renders him nigh-useless for the next several hours of the game (and this is before you have the option of switching him out for someone better). Even after you get the curse lifted, he's a GlassCannon that's outclassed by most of the other characters.


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* WhiteHairedPrettyBoy: Shutat. He even beats [[FinalFantasyVII Sephiroth]] to the punch by about a year or so.
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* EvilOverlooker: Shutat, on the box art.
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* OverratedAndUnderleveled: Samson, Samson, ''Samson''. A big deal is made about his massive physical strength early on, but he's only in your party for a few minutes before he's inflicted with a curse that renders him nigh-useless for the next several hours of the game (and this is before you have the option of switching him out for someone better). Even after you get the curse lifted, he's a GlassCannon that's outclassed by most of the other characters.

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* OverratedAndUnderleveled: Samson, Samson, ''Samson''. A big deal is made about his massive physical strength early on, but he's only in your party for a few minutes before he's inflicted with a curse that renders him nigh-useless for the next several hours of the game (and this is before you have the option of switching him out for someone better). Even after you get the curse lifted, he's a GlassCannon that's outclassed by most of the other characters.
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* OverratedAndUnderleveled: Samson, Samson, ''Samson''. A big deal is made about his massive physical strength early on, but he's only in your party for a few minutes before he's inflicted with a curse that renders him nigh-useless for the next several hours of the game (and this is before you have the option of switching him out for someone better). Even after you get the curse lifted, he's a GlassCannon that's outclassed by most of the other characters.
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* HopelessBossFight: You'll be forced into one with Ramue if you attempt to leave the Border Church without solving the arbitrary sliding puzzle that's there.

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* HopelessBossFight: You'll be forced into one with Ramue if you attempt to leave the Border Church without solving the arbitrary sliding puzzle that's there. Also counts as a NonStandardGameOver.
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* HopelessBossFight: You'll be forced into one with Ramue if you attempt to leave the Border Church without solving the arbitrary sliding puzzle that's there.
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* ATasteOfPower: You've got Samson busting heads for about five minutes after he joins the group before he gets affected by his plot-induced curse. Then he becomes TheLoad for a great long while.
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* StayInTheKitchen: Annie gets hit with this early on when her parents (and the hero's foster parents) send him to the Cave of Spirits on a FetchQuest. Annie asks if she can go too, only to get the "you can't 'cause you're just a girl" treatment. She gets pissed and takes off for the cave on her own, which only ends up making things worse when she takes a wrong turn and is almost killed by a Kraken.

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* StayInTheKitchen: Annie gets hit with this early on when her parents (and the hero's foster parents) send him to the Cave of Spirits on a FetchQuest. Annie asks if she can go too, only to get the "you can't 'cause you're just a girl" treatment. She That just makes things worse when she gets pissed and takes off for the cave on her own, which only ends up making things worse when where she takes a wrong turn and is almost killed by a Kraken.
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* StayInTheKitchen: Annie gets hit with this early on when her parents (and the hero's foster parents) send him to the Cave of Spirits on a FetchQuest. Annie asks if she can go too, only to get the "you can't 'cause you're just a girl" treatment. She gets pissed and takes off for the cave on her own, which only ends up making things worse when she takes a wrong turn and is almost killed by a Kraken.
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''Beyond the Beyond'' was one of the first {{Role Playing Game}}s released during the Sony PlayStation's life cycle, and one of the first by game developer Camelot (after changing its name from Sonic! Software Planning and working on the first two ''ShiningForce'' games).

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''Beyond the Beyond'' was one of the first {{Role Playing Game}}s released during the Sony PlayStation's life cycle, and one of the first by game developer Camelot (after changing its name from Sonic! Software Planning and working on the first two ''ShiningForce'' ''VideoGame/ShiningForce'' games).



Has nothing to do with BeyondTheImpossible, the [[ThereBeyondTheBeyond manga of the same name]], or the unproduced sequel to the Lucio Fulci film "The Beyond".

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Has nothing to do with BeyondTheImpossible, the [[ThereBeyondTheBeyond [[Manga/ThereBeyondTheBeyond manga of the same name]], or the unproduced sequel to the Lucio Fulci film "The Beyond".



* [[BlackMagicianGirl Black Magician Boy]]: Edward

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* [[BlackMagicianGirl Black Magician Boy]]: BlackMage: Edward
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* MarathonLevel: The final part of your quest to cure Samson's curse qualifies for this. You have to fight through ''three different dungeons'' without saving in order to reach the sorcerer Arawn.
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* TokenNonHuman: Tont.
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''Beyond the Beyond'' was one of the first {{Role Playing Game}}s released during the Sony PlayStation's life cycle, and one of the first by game developer Camelot (after changing its name from Sonic! Software Planning and working on the first two ''ShiningForce'' games).

The basic plot of the game isn't much to write home about, but it serves its purpose: young swordsman-in-training travels across the world with his pet dragon, meets allies, fights an evil empire, and attempts to save the world from a group of angry underworld denizens known as the Vicious Ones.

As this was Camelot's first "true" [[EasternRPG Eastern-styled CRPG]] (most of its previous games were either tactical [=RPGs=] or dungeon-crawlers), ''Beyond the Beyond'' took flak for its sometimes confusing game mechanics and uninspired characterization and plotting (though there were one or two unique twists toward the end). It would be a few years before Camelot would attempt this genre again with the ''VideoGame/GoldenSun'' games.

Has nothing to do with BeyondTheImpossible, the [[ThereBeyondTheBeyond manga of the same name]], or the unproduced sequel to the Lucio Fulci film "The Beyond".
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!!This game uses the following tropes:
* AerithAndBob: Almost every friendly human character has a "standard" name like Finn, Annie, and Galahad, while the non-humans get "fantastic" names like Tont and Dagoot.
* AmbidextrousSprite
* BareFistedMonk: Lorelei.
* [[ABoyAndHisX A Boy And His Baby Dragon]]
* [[BlackMagicianGirl Black Magician Boy]]: Edward
* BlackKnight: [[spoiler:Percy]]
* ButtonMashing: Certain button combinations increase the chance of double attacks, critical hits, counter-attacks, and even critical counters.
* CallAHitPointASmeerp: There are two gauges to measure a character's fighting potential: Vitality Points (VP) and Life Points (LP). If a character's VP run out, they get stunned for a turn and have to use up some of their LP to get their fighting strength back. If a character's LP run out, the character is considered "dead" and has to be revived by a priest.
* CrystalDragonJesus: Arawn.
* DistressBall: Annie, in the ''very first'' moments of the game, runs off to the cave to the south of her home village after her father denies her the chance to go on an adventure just because she's a girl.
* DualBoss: Ramue and Shutat, the penultimate bosses and {{Big Bad}}s of the game.
* FlunkyBoss: Dagoot and Yeon.
* FiveManBand:
** TheHero: Finn
** TheLancer: Percy (sometimes Edward)
** TheSmartGuy: Tont
** TheBigGuy: Samson
** TheChick: Annie
** {{Sixth Ranger}}s: Domino and Lorele
** TeamPet: Steiner
* FourIsDeath: The "Vicious Ones" are a group of four of the most powerful Underworlders. They are also a FiveBadBand with Akkadias as the BigBad, Shutat as TheDragon, Yeon as TheEvilGenius, Dagoot as TheBrute, and Ramue as TheDarkChick.
* GameplayAndStorySegregation: Normally, you can remove curses by going to a priest, but a plot-based curse saps Samson of his legendary strength, and no priest is strong enough to remove it. He has to go and personally ask for the help of CrystalDragonJesus to lift it.
* GiantSpaceFleaFromNowhere: Akkadias, the actual final boss.
* {{Gonk}}: Yeon. Even his battle sprite is perpetually hunched over.
* HeroicMime: Finn. Steiner does all of the talking for him.
* KilledOffForReal: Sir Kevins, and later [[spoiler:Percy, if you attack and defeat him in combat without realizing that he's the Black Knight]].
* Music by MotoiSakuraba
* NonHumanSidekick: Steiner.
* OptionalPartyMember: Only Finn, Samson, Edward, Annie, and Domino are "required" to finish the game. Tont is almost dropped into your lap, while Lorelei and [[spoiler:Black Knight Percy]] will actually require some searching.
* {{Pirate}}: Domino.
* PropheticName: Samson, a soldier known for his SuperStrength.
* SheatheYourSword: This is how you get [[spoiler:Percy]] back. Don't attack the BlackKnight.
* ShoulderSizedDragon: Steiner, at first.
* SpellMyNameWithAnS: The playable characters' names are only given enough room for six letters, which presented a bit of a problem when you got to meet the BareFistedMonk princess late in the game. The instruction manual and back-of-the-box screenshots render her name as "Loreli", but in-game, it's spelled "Lorele", when it was possibly meant to be "Lorelei".
** In addition, Tont's thunder-elemental summon beast, Thor, is mistransliterated as "Tolle" in the U.S. version.
* SpritePolygonMix
* SquishyWizard: All three of the main magic users: Edward, Annie and Tont.
** Literal for Tont after upgrade (If he wasn't that squishy beforehand...)
* SummonMagic: Tont specializes in this. There are two varieties: One summons a random mook to deliver a one-time attack on an enemy, while a second variety allows him to summon powerful guardian beasts that hit every enemy at once.
* TookALevelInBadass: Steiner, after you complete the promotion quest. He goes from a harmless-looking baby dragon to a majestic golden wyrm, and you can ride on him and summon him into battle. [[PlotRelevantAgeUp Kid sure grows up fast, doesn't he?]]
* TreacherousAdvisor: Glade of Zalagoon.
* VillainousBreakdown: The normally calm and self-assured Glade explodes into a [[TalkativeLoon rambling nonsensical rant]] when Samson returns to Zalagoon free from his magical curse to showcase his trademark brute strength.
* WeaponOfChoice: Finn and Percy use swords, Domino uses throwing knives, Lorelei fights with her fists, Samson has axes, and everyone else uses staves.
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