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Then there are exceptions to the rules because it isn't thought to be a good idea to put some kid in jail because they're having consensual sex with their boyfriend or girlfriend who just happens to be below the normal age of consent when the two of them are close in age — for example, a 15-year-old and 16-year-old, in some places. So exceptions are sometimes made; for example, in Maryland, the age of consent is 16, but it's legal to have sex with someone 15 if you're under 21. In Colorado, the age of consent is 17, but it's legal to have consensual sex with someone 15 or 16 as long as you're no more than 10 years older. In California, all sex with anyone under 18 is a crime (yes, that means if a 17-year-old boy is having consensual sex with his 17-year-old girlfriend, ''both'' are committing a crime), but the crime is reduced from a felony (with prison time of at least 3 years) to a misdemeanor (maximum jail time of six months and a fine) if they are no more than four years difference in age.

It's sometimes been said when there's an issue of consensual sex where one or both are below the age of consent, the only issue is what the other one's parents think. If their parents are okay with it, it doesn't matter if it is illegal or not. They'll probably let the two use their child's bedroom, so it's private. The person who wants to have sex isn't going to turn the other in, and their parents aren't, so the police don't know and nobody's going to jail.

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Then there are exceptions to the rules because it isn't thought to be a good idea to put some kid in jail because they're having consensual sex with their boyfriend or girlfriend who just happens to be below the normal age of consent when the two of them are close in age — for example, a 15-year-old and 16-year-old, in some places. So exceptions are sometimes made; for example, in Maryland, the age of consent is 16, but it's legal to have sex with someone 15 if you're under 21. In Colorado, the age of consent is 17, but it's legal to have consensual sex with someone 15 or 16 as long as you're no more than 10 years older. In California, all sex with anyone under 18 is a crime (yes, that means if a 17-year-old boy is having consensual sex with his 17-year-old girlfriend, ''both'' are committing a crime), crime)[[labelnote:*]]This situation (and others related to it, i.e., if the act was filmed regardless of mutual agreement, both would be considered to be creating child pornography) and dueling are perhaps the only crimes where both parties can equally be considered both victim and perpetrator.[[/labelnote]], but the crime is reduced from a felony (with prison time of at least 3 years) to a misdemeanor (maximum jail time of six months and a fine) if they are no more than four years difference in age.

It's sometimes been said when there's an issue of consensual sex where one or both are below the age of consent, the only issue is what the other one's parents think. If their parents are okay with it, it doesn't matter if it is illegal or not. They'll probably let the two use their child's bedroom, so it's private. The person who wants to have sex isn't going to turn the other in, and their parents aren't, so the police don't know and nobody's going to jail.
jail [[labelnote:*]]Of course, there would be the situations where a younger girl with understanding parents might have an older boyfriend, but with the parents perhaps being a bit ''too'' understanding and the boyfriend a bit ''too'' forward with what he'd like them to do together, and maybe the girl wants to but at the same time she kind of doesn't, but her boyfriend is really nice and not doing anything wrong and her parents really like him and everyone is being really honest and up front with what's going on and nobody's trying to go behind anyone's back, but maybe just this once, her parents saying "No" might be just what she needs to hear. There are parents that will go by the letter of the law in terms of their children's liaisons and others will slip condoms into their daughter's dresser drawer and tell her to clean the sheets when they're done, or anywhere in between. All valid approaches, and the pros of a child being open and honest with his or her parents regarding their sex life generally outweigh the cons, but in no way does a parent's consent substitute for that of the child's. A parent agreeing to sex on the child's behalf is the very definition of illegal and, as the above example shows, even being overly permissive can create an unintended pressure on the child to submit; conversely, age of consent laws are there for a reason, and if parents don't feel that a physical relationship on that level is appropriate (or even if they're not involved at all) and the sexual act proceeds anyway, then '''all''' the consequences thereof can come into play. They could anyway. There's a line between practicality and pure legality. Again, in this case, open and honest communication between parent and child in this case can solve more problems than it causes.[[/labelnote]].
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Then there are exceptions to the rules because it isn't thought to be a good idea to put some kid in jail because they're having consensual sex with their boyfriend or girlfriend who just happens to be below the normal age of consent when the two of them are close in age — for example, a 15-year-old and 16-year-old, in some places. So exceptions are sometimes made; for example, in Maryland, the age of consent is 16, but it's legal to have sex with someone 15 if you're under 21. In Colorado, the age of consent is 17, but it's legal to have consensual sex with someone 15 or 16 as long as you're no more than 10 years older. In California, all sex with anyone under 18 is a crime (yes, that means if a 15-year-old boy is having consensual sex with his 17-year-old girlfriend, ''both'' are committing a crime), but the crime is reduced from a felony (with prison time of at least 3 years) to a misdemeanor (maximum jail time of six months and a fine) if they are no more than four years difference in age.

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Then there are exceptions to the rules because it isn't thought to be a good idea to put some kid in jail because they're having consensual sex with their boyfriend or girlfriend who just happens to be below the normal age of consent when the two of them are close in age — for example, a 15-year-old and 16-year-old, in some places. So exceptions are sometimes made; for example, in Maryland, the age of consent is 16, but it's legal to have sex with someone 15 if you're under 21. In Colorado, the age of consent is 17, but it's legal to have consensual sex with someone 15 or 16 as long as you're no more than 10 years older. In California, all sex with anyone under 18 is a crime (yes, that means if a 15-year-old 17-year-old boy is having consensual sex with his 17-year-old girlfriend, ''both'' are committing a crime), but the crime is reduced from a felony (with prison time of at least 3 years) to a misdemeanor (maximum jail time of six months and a fine) if they are no more than four years difference in age.
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And then there’s the issue of potentially hazardous body modifications often performed on children (or babies) for reasons that don’t involve immediate need for medical attention, often as a traditional rite of passage; the most notable among these in the West is circumcision, a procedure the opponents of which usually bring up consent as an argument. [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment And that is all we are going to say on the matter.]]

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And then there’s the issue of potentially hazardous body modifications often performed on children (or babies) for reasons that don’t involve immediate need for medical attention, often as a traditional rite of passage; the most notable among these in the West is circumcision, a procedure the opponents of which usually bring up consent as an argument. [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment [[Administrivia/RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment And that is all we are going to say on the matter.]]
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Most places have a set of fixed rules established by law with some exceptions called "age of consent." In the United Kingdom, Canada, 31 U.S. states and the District of Columbia, the age of consent is 16. In 8 U.S. states, the age of consent is 17, and the other 11 states set it at 18.

Then there are exceptions to the rules because it isn't thought to be a good idea to put some kid in jail because they're having consensual sex with their boyfriend or girlfriend who just happens to be below the normal age of consent when the two of them are close in age--for example, a 15-year-old and 16-year-old, in some places. So exceptions are sometimes made, e.g. in Maryland the age of consent is 16, but it's legal to have sex with someone 15 if you're under 21. In Colorado the age of consent is 17, but it's legal to have consensual sex with someone 15 or 16 as long as you're no more than 10 years older. In California all sex with anyone under 18 is a crime (yes, that means if a 15-year-old boy is having consensual sex with his 17-year-old girlfriend, ''both'' are committing a crime), but the crime is reduced from a felony (with prison time of at least 3 years) to a misdemeanor (maximum jail time of six months and a fine) if they are no more than four years difference in age.

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Most places have a set of fixed rules established by law with (with some exceptions exceptions) called "age of consent." In the United Kingdom, Canada, 31 U.S. states and the District of Columbia, the age of consent is 16. In 8 U.S. states, the age of consent is 17, and the other 11 states set it at 18.

Then there are exceptions to the rules because it isn't thought to be a good idea to put some kid in jail because they're having consensual sex with their boyfriend or girlfriend who just happens to be below the normal age of consent when the two of them are close in age--for age — for example, a 15-year-old and 16-year-old, in some places. So exceptions are sometimes made, e.g. made; for example, in Maryland Maryland, the age of consent is 16, but it's legal to have sex with someone 15 if you're under 21. In Colorado Colorado, the age of consent is 17, but it's legal to have consensual sex with someone 15 or 16 as long as you're no more than 10 years older. In California California, all sex with anyone under 18 is a crime (yes, that means if a 15-year-old boy is having consensual sex with his 17-year-old girlfriend, ''both'' are committing a crime), but the crime is reduced from a felony (with prison time of at least 3 years) to a misdemeanor (maximum jail time of six months and a fine) if they are no more than four years difference in age.



While both constructs are useful, they are far from waterproof. What if someone is an adult but not informed? Scams are not cool! Or what if someone who's not adult is "informed" and consents to something that is [[NotSafeForWork Not Safe For Kids]] and later regrets it? One of the main points of having age limits is that kids should not be forced to take that kind of responsibility! It's ''not'' their own fault if they get into a situation that hurts them, no matter how good an idea it seemed at the time. And also, what if someone is technically adult and technically informed, but has a mental handicap that makes them unfit to make the decision?

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While both constructs are useful, they are far from waterproof. What if someone is an adult but not informed? Scams are not cool! Or what if someone who's not adult is "informed" and consents to something that is [[NotSafeForWork Not Safe For Kids]] and [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone later regrets it? it]]? One of the main points of having age limits is that kids should not be forced to take that kind of responsibility! It's ''not'' their own fault if they get into [[HarmfulToMinors a situation that hurts them, them]], no matter [[ItSeemedLikeAGoodIdeaAtTheTime how good an idea it seemed at the time.time]]. And also, what if someone is technically adult and technically informed, but has a mental handicap that makes them unfit to make the decision?



This can be handled by giving consent beforehand ("permission"); for instance, asking your significant partner to wake you up with… well with love. Is such stated consent even needed? Can't lovers just hug each other without asking permission? And can such consent even be given? While most people would probably answer "yes" on both questions, there are those who say no on one or even both. The argument goes that even if you consented beforehand, you might be having a bad morning now and not want any contact--there's no way to know until afterwards, and by then it's too late. Others would argue that this extreme defense against sexual oppression becomes oppressive in itself.

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This can be handled by giving consent beforehand ("permission"); for instance, asking your significant partner to wake you up with… well well, with love. Is such stated consent even needed? Can't lovers just hug each other without asking permission? And can such consent even be given? While most people would probably answer "yes" on both questions, there are those who say no on one or even both. The argument goes that even if you consented beforehand, you might be having a bad morning now and not want any contact--there's contact — there's no way to know until afterwards, and by then it's too late. Others would argue that this extreme defense against sexual oppression becomes oppressive in itself.



There are some cases where that might be acceptable; it is impossible to ask for consent to talk to someone, for instance, since that would itself require you to talk to them.[[note]]Exceptions are granted if you're communicating through a liaison, but that means your liaison has to deal with these issues instead.[[/note]] (Actually, that's not completely true, because we've had a method for decades to do exactly that; kids learn in school to ''raise their hand'' to ask for permission to speak.) It is also common to block a person's path to get their attention, shake their hand, and occasionally even enter their home without asking first, and without being explicitly given permission. These things are established as acceptable by conventions like body language, and by the concept of harassment--you may have the right to talk to whomever you like, but they can revoke that 'default consent' by telling you to go away, and can even sue you for failing to do so.

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There are some cases where that might be acceptable; it is impossible to ask for consent to talk to someone, for instance, since that would itself require you to talk to them.[[note]]Exceptions are granted if you're communicating through a liaison, but that means your liaison has to deal with these issues instead.[[/note]] (Actually, that's not completely true, because we've had a method for decades to do exactly that; kids learn in school to ''raise their hand'' to ask for permission to speak.) It is also common to block a person's path to get their attention, shake their hand, and occasionally even enter their home without asking first, and without being explicitly given permission. These things are established as acceptable by conventions like body language, and by the concept of harassment--you harassment — you may have the right to talk to whomever you like, but they can revoke that 'default consent' by telling you to go away, and can even sue you for failing to do so.



The law also has several cases of implied consent which apply away from these personal situations. A few examples: Every time you get behind the wheel of a car in the United States, you have consented to allowing law enforcement to checking your blood alcohol levels. Refusing to take the test--blood, urine or breathalyzer--is just not a viable defense, and while refusal cannot be taken as an admission of guilt, if you refuse they'll suspend your license for anything from a few months to a year, whether or not you're convicted of drunk driving. In the United States, certain firearms permits give consent to being continually ready to prove registration of the weapon to law enforcement whenever asked to do so. Likewise, many countries (notably not the US) have implied consent for organ donation. Unless you specifically refuse to donate, the legal system assumes you are consenting to donate your organs upon death.

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The law also has several cases of implied consent which apply away from these personal situations. A few examples: Every time you get behind the wheel of a car in the United States, you have consented to allowing law enforcement to checking check your blood alcohol levels. Refusing to take the test--blood, urine test — blood, urine, or breathalyzer--is breathalyzer — is just not a viable defense, and while refusal cannot be taken as an admission of guilt, if you refuse refuse, they'll suspend your license for anything from a few months to a year, whether or not you're convicted of drunk driving. In the United States, certain firearms permits give consent to being continually ready to prove registration of the weapon to law enforcement whenever asked to do so. Likewise, many countries (notably not the US) have implied consent for organ donation. Unless you specifically refuse to donate, the legal system assumes you are consenting to donate your organs upon death.



The problem with this is that some people consider others to have given implied consent even when no such implication was intended at all. The most infamous version of this is guys who believe that if a woman is wearing clothing considered to be scanty by the standards of her culture and or locale she's implying that she wants unknown men to stare at her, touch her, or [[SexIsEvilAndIAmHorny worse]]. This has given some people (mostly women) a certain aversion to the concept of implied consent.

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The problem with this is that some people consider others to have given implied consent even when no such implication was intended at all. The most infamous version of this is guys who believe that if a woman is wearing clothing [[{{Stripperiffic}} considered to be scanty scanty]] by the standards of her culture and or locale locale, she's implying that she wants unknown men to stare at her, touch her, or [[SexIsEvilAndIAmHorny worse]]. This has given some people (mostly women) a certain aversion to the concept of implied consent.



!!Consent and Implied Consent--Medicine

Implied consent is also a legal term in medicine. This applies to the United States, and your local laws may be different. A full discussion of this is way beyond the scope of this article, but these kinds of dramatic life-and-death situations come up in fiction and so are worth examining. First, all medical procedures -- period -- require informed consent. A rational patient must be provided reasonable information about proposed interventions and also must be allowed to refuse care. However, when a patient cannot make decisions for themselves rationally, they have given the health care worker or rescuer implied consent to go ahead and execute appropriate care. If you are dying, and you are in your right mind, you can still wave-away any help and your autonomy in this matter must be recognized. If you fall unconscious before help arrives, your rescuers should assume you wanted help.

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!!Consent and Implied Consent--Medicine

Consent — Medicine

Implied consent is also a legal term in medicine. This applies to the United States, and your local laws may be different. A full discussion of this is way beyond the scope of this article, but these kinds of dramatic life-and-death situations come up in fiction and so are worth examining. First, all medical procedures -- period -- require informed consent. A rational patient must be provided reasonable information about proposed interventions and also must be allowed to refuse care. However, when a patient cannot make decisions for themselves rationally, they have given the health care worker or rescuer implied consent to go ahead and execute appropriate care. If you are dying, and you are in your right mind, you can still wave-away any help and your autonomy in this matter must be recognized. If you fall unconscious before help arrives, your rescuers should assume you wanted help.



This leads to problematic situations and as such there are some exceptions. For example, parents cannot deny life-saving treatment to a child because it contradicts the parent's religious views. In this case, the physician is empowered to legally make that decision against the child's and parents' wishes to save that child. When a person's mental state or drug intoxication makes them ineligible to make a rational decision, a physician can be empowered to order treatment despite these objections. All of these situations fall under implied consent, with the idea that a person who looks back on the situation rationally or as an adult would likely consent to receive treatment and so it should be assumed on behalf of those who cannot make the decision themselves. As soon as a person "comes to their senses," they can revoke consent immediately.

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This leads to problematic situations situations, and as such there are some exceptions. For example, parents cannot deny life-saving treatment to a child because it contradicts the parent's religious views. In this case, the physician is empowered to legally make that decision against the child's and parents' wishes to save that child. When a person's mental state or drug intoxication makes them ineligible to make a rational decision, a physician can be empowered to order treatment despite these objections. All of these situations fall under implied consent, with the idea that a person who looks back on the situation rationally or as an adult would likely consent to receive treatment and so it should be assumed on behalf of those who cannot make the decision themselves. As soon as a person "comes to their senses," they can revoke consent immediately.



You can preemptively revoke consent to certain procedures with an advanced directive, the most famous of which is a DNR (Do Not Resuscitate) order. A patient with an advanced directive has stated their wishes and those must be honored regardless of the outcome or objections from family members. Another strategy for handling these decisions is appointing a surrogate to make decisions for you, such as with a power of attorney. Furthermore, in a few special situations such as getting an abortion or treatment for [=STDs=], a minor does not have to consult their parents and can procure services without their parents' consent. Finally, an advanced directive must be presented before the crisis situation hits and your family cannot simply vouch that you have one (as they may not have your wishes at heart). Without a DNR or power of attorney, medical personnel are assumed to have your implied consent, regardless of what you told your family. Don't just tell your family any end-of-life or emergency care instructions. Put it in writing.

There's a few situations where a DNR or advance directive preventing care go out the window. Generally, pre-hospital responders ([=EMTs=], paramedics, even civilian bystanders) aren't bound by it as there's usually no way to verify it in the field and they respond in situations where minutes, even seconds, can count. Some ambulance corps will allow you to file a DNR with them in case they need to respond, but this is far from universal. Also, ''any'' overt indication that you want assistance, even in a hospital setting with an advanced directive or power of attorney on file, renders those orders invalid.

There is one ''additional'' issue here. An extremely popular treatment for autism known as Applied Behavioral Analysis or ABA for short (which happens to be the '''only''' autism treatment American health-insurance is required to cover) actually '''mandates''' practitioners to violate the patients' consent ([[LoopholeAbuse though technically a patient younger than 18 can't consent so the parents consent for the patient]]). ABA holds the dubious distinction of being a treatment method which 100% of first-hand patient testimonials advise '''against''', citing (among other things) ''Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder'' and fear of asserting personal boundaries, which in turn can lead to ''considerable'' complications concerning credibility of consent in contrasting contexts.

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You can preemptively revoke consent to certain procedures with an advanced directive, the most famous of which is a DNR (Do Not Resuscitate) order. A patient with an advanced directive has stated their wishes and those must be honored regardless of the outcome or objections from family members. Another strategy for handling these decisions is appointing a surrogate to make decisions for you, such as with a power of attorney. Furthermore, in a few special situations situations, such as getting an abortion or treatment for [=STDs=], a minor does not have to consult their parents and can procure services without their parents' consent. Finally, an advanced directive must be presented before the crisis situation hits and your family cannot simply vouch that you have one (as they may not have your wishes at heart). Without a DNR or power of attorney, medical personnel are assumed to have your implied consent, regardless of what you told your family. Don't just tell your family any end-of-life or emergency care instructions. Put it in writing.

There's a few situations where a DNR or advance directive preventing care go out the window. Generally, pre-hospital responders ([=EMTs=], paramedics, even civilian bystanders) aren't bound by it it, as there's usually no way to verify it in the field and they respond in situations where minutes, even seconds, can count. Some ambulance corps will allow you to file a DNR with them in case they need to respond, but this is far from universal. Also, ''any'' overt indication that you want assistance, even in a hospital setting with an advanced directive or power of attorney on file, renders those orders invalid.

There is one ''additional'' issue here. An extremely popular treatment for autism UsefulNotes/{{autism}} known as Applied Behavioral Analysis or ABA for short (which happens to be the '''only''' autism treatment American health-insurance is required to cover) actually '''mandates''' practitioners to violate the patients' consent ([[LoopholeAbuse though technically a patient younger than 18 can't consent consent, so the parents consent for the patient]]). ABA holds the dubious distinction of being a treatment method which 100% of first-hand patient testimonials advise '''against''', citing (among other things) ''Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder'' and fear of asserting personal boundaries, which in turn can lead to ''considerable'' complications concerning credibility of consent in contrasting contexts.



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# When should something be considered "Safe"? One reasonable interpretation is that risks are known and minimized. However, one could also take it as a totalitarian demand for total safety: No risk whatsoever can ever be tolerated. This is unreasonable, because nothing is ever totally safe. Leaving your home is not safe; you could get mugged or ran over by a car. ''Staying'' in your home is not safe either--you could be attacked by a robber, a plane or tree could crash into it, or there could be a fire or whatever. Yet there are people in the BDSM community who with complete sincerity and very literally speaking accuse each other of being unsafe because they have someone sit in a chair without having the chair bolted to the floor and the person tied to the chair--because, what if they happened to fall off the chair? On the other end of the spectrum, some people consider lethally hazardous activities to be "safe" even as others insist that they are hugely underestimating the risks.
# When can a person be considered sufficiently sane for a certain activity? There is room for some really valid discussion here, regarding for example the line between doing SSC BDSM and being self-destructive. However, some people land in a position that people with not-so-severe mental problems consider robs them of their rights as adults. Some people have difficulty communicating when in a heightened emotional state. That makes it impractical for them to communicate during sex, even if they have a {{Safeword}}. Does that mean they shouldn't be allowed to have kinky sex? Does it mean they shouldn't be allowed to practice martial arts?

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# When should something be considered "Safe"? One reasonable interpretation is that risks are known and minimized. However, one could also take it as a totalitarian demand for total safety: No risk whatsoever can ever be tolerated. This is unreasonable, because nothing is ever totally safe. Leaving your home is not safe; you could get mugged or ran over by a car. ''Staying'' in your home is not safe either--you either — you could be attacked by a robber, a plane or tree could crash into it, or there could be a fire or whatever. Yet there are people in the BDSM community who with (with complete sincerity and very literally speaking speaking) accuse each other of being unsafe because they have someone sit in a chair without having the chair bolted to the floor and the person tied to the chair--because, chair — because, what if they happened to fall off the chair? On the other end of the spectrum, some people consider lethally hazardous activities to be "safe" even as others insist that they are hugely underestimating the risks.
# When can a person be considered sufficiently sane for a certain activity? There is room for some really valid discussion here, regarding regarding, for example example, the line between doing SSC BDSM and being self-destructive. However, some people land in a position that people with not-so-severe mental problems consider robs them of their rights as adults. Some people have difficulty communicating when in a heightened emotional state. That makes it impractical for them to communicate during sex, even if they have a {{Safeword}}. Does that mean they shouldn't be allowed to have kinky sex? Does it mean they shouldn't be allowed to practice martial arts?
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More than anything else, except in the case of permission (because permission is consent in advance), the other person must have the capacity to say no any time before something happens. And once something does happen, even where permission was given, they have every right to stop it, to "revoke" consent — even when things are in progress, or rather, ''especially'' when things are in progress.

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More than anything else, except in the case of permission (because permission is consent in advance), the other person must have the capacity to say no any time before something happens. And once something does happen, even where permission was given, they have every right to stop it, to "revoke" consent — even when things are in progress, or rather, ''especially'' when things are in progress.
progress. Of course, this doesn't apply retroactively; but it absolutely does apply from that moment on, with no "grace period" beyond the minimum time physically necessary to stop the now non-consensual action.
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To be "rational," you must be an adult or emancipated minor, must be judged to be able to make sound decisions, and must not be in some form of altered mental status such as intoxicated or unconscious. The classic example is when a paramedic finds a patient knocked out in a car accident and heavily injured, he does not have to wait for the patient to come to before beginning treatment and evacuation. A heroin addict who is semi-conscious cannot wave-away treatment for his overdose. A child or a person with severe schizophrenia cannot make many decisions at all.

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To be "rational," you must be an adult or emancipated minor, must be judged to be able to make sound decisions, and must not be in some form of altered mental status such as intoxicated or unconscious. The classic example is when a paramedic finds a patient knocked out in a car accident and heavily injured, he does not have to wait for the patient to come to before beginning treatment and evacuation. A heroin addict who is semi-conscious cannot wave-away treatment for his overdose. A child or a person with severe schizophrenia cannot make many decisions at all.
all. That said, involuntary treatment for mental illness is controversial. Some say it can further stress an ill person.
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As human beings, we all have the right to our own lives and the control over our own bodies. Thus, doing something serious to someone else's body requires consent. Acts that require consent include:

* Acts that can give bruises and/or cause pain. A boxing match is not assault, and neither is playing around with martial arts--but only as long as everyone involved is in on it. Doing the same move on a non-consenting person is assault, no more and no less.
* Any and all sexual acts, including fondling--for example, grabbing a stranger's ass can be considered sexual assault, depending on the jurisdiction.

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As human beings, we all have the right to our own lives and the control over our own bodies. Thus, doing something serious to someone else's body requires consent. Acts that require consent include:

* Acts that can give bruises and/or cause pain. A boxing match is not assault, and neither is playing around with martial arts--but arts — but only as long as everyone involved is in on it. Doing the same move on a non-consenting person is assault, no more and no less.
less [[note]]unless the resulting injuries end up being fatal — ''then'' it’s manslaughter, or possibly even murder[[/note]].
* Any and all sexual acts, including fondling--for fondling — for example, grabbing a stranger's ass can be considered sexual assault, depending on the jurisdiction.



The discussion about consent is particularly intense when it comes to the sexuality known as [[CasualKink BDSM]], since this sexuality touches both the first and the second type, and sometimes also the third. (BDSM stands for '''B'''ondage, '''D'''ominance-games and '''S'''ado-'''M'''asochism. It started out as a combination of the old terms Bondage&Discipline, Dominance&Submission and Sadism&Masochism.) However, the discussion is not in any way limited to that particular field: it also includes mainstream sexuality as well as all kinds of issues that has nothing to do with sexuality.

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The discussion about consent is particularly intense when it comes to the sexuality known as [[CasualKink BDSM]], since this sexuality touches both the first and the second type, and sometimes also the third. (BDSM stands for '''B'''ondage, '''D'''ominance-games and '''S'''ado-'''M'''asochism. It started out as a combination of the old terms Bondage&Discipline, Dominance&Submission Dominance&Submission, and Sadism&Masochism.) However, the discussion is not in any way limited to that particular field: it also includes mainstream sexuality as well as all kinds of issues that has have nothing to do with sexuality.



First, does the person reasonably understand what is happening? Second, does the person have the right to stop what is happening without external consequences? Third, does the person have the right to require reasonable protections? Let's go over each of these:

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First, does the person reasonably understand what is happening? Second, does the person have the right to stop what is happening without external consequences? Third, does the person have the right to require reasonable protections? If the answer to any of these questions is “no”, the situation has taken a horrifically wrong turn. Let's go over each of these:



Being able to stop without external consequences means that you're not being blackmailed or forced to do whatever is happening by extortion or threat to others, nor threatened with injury for refusing. The other person can leave (or tell you to leave) or refuse to see you again, but they can't hurt or injure you, nor cause you problems with other people.

The right to reasonable protections means they can insist on means to warn of the need to stop, and for use of any reasonable birth control and/or disease protection with respect to how well they know you and your history. Two people who don't know each other or who are in a non-monogamous relationship should use condoms or dental dams. Two people who know each other and have knowledge the other has no diseases might use a non-barrier contraceptive, and so on. This also includes the use of "safe words" to allow things to stop if it goes too far, especially if they're going to ignore "no" or "stop" when people are playing games involving fake non-consent (like when plays the homeowner and the other plays the "burglar" who broke in and decides to "take advantage" of them, or the other way around). Or people doing BDSM, there may be minor amounts of pain they don't mind or actually like, but they must be given a means to indicate something is wrong to allow things to stop.

We can divide consent into three flavors. Permission, plain consent and implied consent.

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Being able to stop without external consequences means that you're not being blackmailed [[{{Blackmail}} blackmailed]] or forced to do whatever is happening by extortion or threat to others, nor threatened with injury for refusing. The other person can leave (or tell you to leave) or refuse to see you again, but they can't hurt or injure you, nor cause you problems with other people.

The right to reasonable protections means they can insist on means to warn of the need to stop, and for use of any reasonable birth control and/or disease protection with respect to how well they know you and your history. Two people who don't know each other or who are in a non-monogamous relationship should use condoms or dental dams. Two people who know each other and have knowledge the other has no diseases might use a non-barrier contraceptive, and so on. This also includes the use of "safe words" to allow things to stop if it goes too far, especially if they're going to ignore "no" or "stop" when people are playing games involving fake non-consent (like when one plays the homeowner and the other plays the "burglar" who broke in and decides to "take advantage" of them, or the other way around). Or people doing BDSM, there may be minor amounts of pain they don't mind or actually like, but they must be given a means to indicate something is wrong to allow things to stop.

We can divide consent into three flavors. Permission, plain consent consent, and implied consent.



This one's a little touchy because some people feel there is no such thing, but in real situations it's probably very common and expected. A man and a woman are in bed together, he's been performing oral sex on her for some time and she's enjoyed it. So then he decides to have his fun. He uses his hands to push her legs apart, climbs on top of her, prepares himself, then gets inside her, taking a full ten seconds to do so before he starts moving. She clearly knew what he was going to do, and said nothing. She did not say it was okay, nor did she tell him no. Given the circumstances it is reasonable to presume she consented to this.

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This one's a little touchy touchy, because some people feel there is no such thing, but in real situations situations, it's probably very common and expected. A man and a woman are in bed together, he's been performing oral sex on her for some time and she's enjoyed it. So then he decides to have his fun. He uses his hands to push her legs apart, climbs on top of her, prepares himself, then gets inside her, taking a full ten seconds to do so before he starts moving. She clearly knew what he was going to do, and said nothing. She did not say it was okay, nor did she tell him no. Given the circumstances circumstances, it is reasonable to presume she consented to this.



More than anything else, except in the case of permission (because permission is consent in advance), the other person must have the capacity to say no any time before something happens. And once something does happen, even where permission was given, they have every right to stop it, to "revoke" consent. Even when things are in progress, or rather, ''especially'' when things are in progress.

We think that consensus requires equality between the parties in terms of power and responsibility, which is why children and the mentally disabled are considered incapable of consenting with able adults. And even between adults, there can still be issues about knowing what they are getting into and not getting exploited, which is why the ethics get trickier when there are issues of power and authority (such as teachers and students, supervisors and employees, etc.). See '''Consenting Adults and Informed Consent''' below.

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More than anything else, except in the case of permission (because permission is consent in advance), the other person must have the capacity to say no any time before something happens. And once something does happen, even where permission was given, they have every right to stop it, to "revoke" consent. Even consent — even when things are in progress, or rather, ''especially'' when things are in progress.

We think that consensus Furthermore, consent requires equality between the parties in terms of power and responsibility, which is why children and the mentally disabled are considered incapable of consenting with able adults. And even between adults, there can still be issues about knowing what they are getting into and not getting exploited, which is why the ethics get trickier when there are issues of power and authority (such as teachers and students, supervisors and employees, etc.). See '''Consenting Adults and Informed Consent''' below.
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->''"I never, in any of my public school years, had a lesson saying you needed to wait for verbal consent before touching a woman. I saw the quarterback of the football team slap girls on the butt, I saw guys reach around and grab girls' boobs as a prank, I saw mistletoe hung over doorways and was told if you and a girl stood under it, she ''had'' to kiss you. One time when we were playing volleyball at the beach, Dr. Dre ran up and unhooked a girl's bikini top."''
-->--''Website/{{Cracked}}'', "[[http://www.cracked.com/blog/how-men-are-trained-to-think-sexual-assault-no-big-deal/ How Men Are Trained to Think Sexual Assault Is No Big Deal]]"

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->''"I never, in any of my public school years, had a lesson saying you needed to wait for verbal consent before touching a woman. I saw the quarterback of the football team slap girls on the butt, I saw guys reach around and grab girls' boobs as a prank, I saw mistletoe hung over doorways and was told if you and a girl stood under it, she ''had'' '''had''' to kiss you. One time when we were playing volleyball at the beach, Dr. Dre ran up and unhooked a girl's bikini top."''
-->--''Website/{{Cracked}}'', "[[http://www.[[http://www.cracked.com/blog/how-men-are-trained-to-think-sexual-assault-no-big-deal/ How "How Men Are Trained to Think Sexual Assault Is No Big Deal]]"
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* Acts that cause permanent alterations on the body, such as tattoos and piercings. Giving someone a tattoo that wasn't asked for, that's not legal anywhere.

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* Acts that cause permanent alterations on the body, such as tattoos and piercings. Giving someone a tattoo that wasn't asked for, that's for is not legal anywhere.



The right to reasonable protections means they can insist on means to warn of the need to stop, and for use of any reasonable birth control and/or disease protection with respect to how well they know you and your history. Two people who don't know each other or who are in a non-monogamous relationship should use condoms (or dental dams in the case of lesbians). Two people who know each other and have knowledge the other has no diseases might use a non-barrier contraceptive, and so on. This also includes the use of "safe words" to allow things to stop if it goes too far, especially if they're going to ignore "no" or "stop" when people are playing games involving fake non-consent (like when plays the homeowner and the other plays the "burglar" who broke in and decides to "take advantage" of them, or the other way around). Or people doing BDSM, there may be minor amounts of pain they don't mind or actually like, but they must be given a means to indicate something is wrong to allow things to stop.

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The right to reasonable protections means they can insist on means to warn of the need to stop, and for use of any reasonable birth control and/or disease protection with respect to how well they know you and your history. Two people who don't know each other or who are in a non-monogamous relationship should use condoms (or or dental dams in the case of lesbians).dams. Two people who know each other and have knowledge the other has no diseases might use a non-barrier contraceptive, and so on. This also includes the use of "safe words" to allow things to stop if it goes too far, especially if they're going to ignore "no" or "stop" when people are playing games involving fake non-consent (like when plays the homeowner and the other plays the "burglar" who broke in and decides to "take advantage" of them, or the other way around). Or people doing BDSM, there may be minor amounts of pain they don't mind or actually like, but they must be given a means to indicate something is wrong to allow things to stop.



Then there are exceptions to the rules because it isn't thought to be a good idea to put some kid in jail because they're having consensual sex with their boyfriend or girlfriend who just happens to be below the normal age of consent and the two of them are close in age, so exceptions are sometimes made, e.g. in Maryland the age of consent is 16, but it's legal to have sex with someone 15 if you're under 21. In Colorado the age of consent is 17, but it's legal to have consensual sex with someone 15 or 16 as long as you're no more than 10 years older. In California all sex with anyone under 18 is a crime (yes, that means if a 15-year-old boy is having consensual sex with his 17-year-old girlfriend, ''both'' are committing a crime), but the crime is reduced from a felony (with prison time of at least 3 years) to a misdemeanor (maximum jail time of six months and a fine) if they are no more than four years difference in age.

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Then there are exceptions to the rules because it isn't thought to be a good idea to put some kid in jail because they're having consensual sex with their boyfriend or girlfriend who just happens to be below the normal age of consent and when the two of them are close in age, so age--for example, a 15-year-old and 16-year-old, in some places. So exceptions are sometimes made, e.g. in Maryland the age of consent is 16, but it's legal to have sex with someone 15 if you're under 21. In Colorado the age of consent is 17, but it's legal to have consensual sex with someone 15 or 16 as long as you're no more than 10 years older. In California all sex with anyone under 18 is a crime (yes, that means if a 15-year-old boy is having consensual sex with his 17-year-old girlfriend, ''both'' are committing a crime), but the crime is reduced from a felony (with prison time of at least 3 years) to a misdemeanor (maximum jail time of six months and a fine) if they are no more than four years difference in age.



The idea that everyone involved is not only consenting, but also understands what they are consenting to.

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The idea that everyone involved is not only consenting, but also understands ''understands what they are consenting to.
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Implied consent is also a legal term in medicine. This applies to the United States, and your local laws may be different. A full discussion of this is way beyond the scope of this article, but these kinds of dramatic life-and-death situations come up in fiction and so are worth examining. First, all medical procedures--period--require informed consent. A rational patient must be provided reasonable information about proposed interventions and also must be allowed to refuse care. However, when a patient cannot make decisions for themselves rationally, they have given the health care worker or rescuer implied consent to go ahead and execute appropriate care. If you are dying, and you are in your right mind, you can still wave-away any help and your autonomy in this matter must be recognized. If you fall unconscious before help arrives, your rescuers should assume you wanted help.

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Implied consent is also a legal term in medicine. This applies to the United States, and your local laws may be different. A full discussion of this is way beyond the scope of this article, but these kinds of dramatic life-and-death situations come up in fiction and so are worth examining. First, all medical procedures--period--require procedures -- period -- require informed consent. A rational patient must be provided reasonable information about proposed interventions and also must be allowed to refuse care. However, when a patient cannot make decisions for themselves rationally, they have given the health care worker or rescuer implied consent to go ahead and execute appropriate care. If you are dying, and you are in your right mind, you can still wave-away any help and your autonomy in this matter must be recognized. If you fall unconscious before help arrives, your rescuers should assume you wanted help.



* Safe means that the risks are known and minimized: That people know what they are getting into and handle it responsibly.
* Sane means that everyone involved is at an accountable mental capacity: No one is drugged down, too insane, or too young or immature.
* Consensual means that everyone involved participates by their own free will.

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* Safe '''Safe''' means that the risks are known and minimized: That people know what they are getting into and handle it responsibly.
* Sane '''Sane''' means that everyone involved is at an accountable mental capacity: No one is drugged down, too insane, or too young or immature.
* Consensual *'''Consensual''' means that everyone involved participates by their own free will.
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->''"I never, in any of my public school years, had a lesson saying you needed to wait for verbal consent before touching a woman. I saw the quarterback of the football team slap girls on the butt, I saw guys reach around and grab girls' boobs as a prank, I saw mistletoe hung over doorways and was told if you and a girl stood under it, she ''had'' to kiss you. One time when we were playing volleyball at the beach, Dr. Dre ran up and unhooked a girl's bikini top."''
-->--''Website/{{Cracked}}'', "[[http://www.cracked.com/blog/how-men-are-trained-to-think-sexual-assault-no-big-deal/ How Men Are Trained to Think Sexual Assault Is No Big Deal]]"



* All and any sexual acts, including fondling--for example, grabbing a stranger's ass can be considered sexual assault, depending on the jurisdiction.

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* All Any and any all sexual acts, including fondling--for example, grabbing a stranger's ass can be considered sexual assault, depending on the jurisdiction.



The discussion about consent is particularly intense when it comes to the sexuality known as [[CasualKink BDSM]], since this sexuality touches both the first and the second type, and sometimes also the third. (BDSM stands for Bondage, Dominance-games and Sado-Masochism. Started out as a combination of the old terms Bondage&Discipline, Dominance&Submission and Sadism&Masochism.) However, the discussion is not in any way limited to that particular field: it also includes mainstream sexuality as well as all kinds of issues that has nothing to do with sexuality.

However, consent is not a simple matter…

First, does the person reasonably understand what is happening? Second, does the person have the right to stop what is happening without external consequences? Third, does the person have the right to require reasonable protections? Let's go over each of these.

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The discussion about consent is particularly intense when it comes to the sexuality known as [[CasualKink BDSM]], since this sexuality touches both the first and the second type, and sometimes also the third. (BDSM stands for Bondage, Dominance-games '''B'''ondage, '''D'''ominance-games and Sado-Masochism. Started '''S'''ado-'''M'''asochism. It started out as a combination of the old terms Bondage&Discipline, Dominance&Submission and Sadism&Masochism.) However, the discussion is not in any way limited to that particular field: it also includes mainstream sexuality as well as all kinds of issues that has nothing to do with sexuality.

However, consent [[{{Understatement}} is not a simple matter…

matter]]; if it were, this Useful Notes page wouldn't exist.

First, does the person reasonably understand what is happening? Second, does the person have the right to stop what is happening without external consequences? Third, does the person have the right to require reasonable protections? Let's go over each of these.
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First, does the person reasonably understand what is happening? Second, does the person have the right to stop what is happening without external consequences? Third, does the person have he right to require reasonable protections? Let's go over each of these.

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* Acts that can give bruises and/or cause pain. A boxing match is not assault, and neither is playing around with martial arts -- but only as long as everyone involved is in on it. Doing the same move on a non-consenting person is assault, no more and no less.
* All and any sexual acts, including fondling -- for example, grabbing a stranger's ass can be considered sexual assault, depending on the jurisdiction.

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* Acts that can give bruises and/or cause pain. A boxing match is not assault, and neither is playing around with martial arts -- but arts--but only as long as everyone involved is in on it. Doing the same move on a non-consenting person is assault, no more and no less.
* All and any sexual acts, including fondling -- for fondling--for example, grabbing a stranger's ass can be considered sexual assault, depending on the jurisdiction.



However, consent is not a simple matter....

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This can be handled by giving consent beforehand ("permission"); for instance, asking your significant partner to wake you up with ... well with love. Is such stated consent even needed? Can't lovers just hug each other without asking permission? And can such consent even be given? While most people would probably answer "yes" on both questions, there are those who say no on one or even both. The argument goes that even if you consented beforehand, you might be having a bad morning now and not want any contact -- there's no way to know until afterwards, and by then it's too late. Others would argue that this extreme defense against sexual oppression becomes oppressive in itself.

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This can be handled by giving consent beforehand ("permission"); for instance, asking your significant partner to wake you up with ... with… well with love. Is such stated consent even needed? Can't lovers just hug each other without asking permission? And can such consent even be given? While most people would probably answer "yes" on both questions, there are those who say no on one or even both. The argument goes that even if you consented beforehand, you might be having a bad morning now and not want any contact -- there's contact--there's no way to know until afterwards, and by then it's too late. Others would argue that this extreme defense against sexual oppression becomes oppressive in itself.



The law also has several cases of implied consent which apply away from these personal situations. A few examples: Every time you get behind the wheel of a car in the United States, you have consented to allowing law enforcement to checking your blood alcohol levels. Refusing to take the test - blood, urine or breathalyzer - is just not a viable defense, and while refusal cannot be taken as an admission of guilt, if you refuse they'll suspend your license for anything from a few months to a year, whether or not you're convicted of drunk driving. In the United States, certain firearms permits give consent to being continually ready to prove registration of the weapon to law enforcement whenever asked to do so. Likewise, many countries (notably not the US) have implied consent for organ donation. Unless you specifically refuse to donate, the legal system assumes you are consenting to donate your organs upon death.

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The law also has several cases of implied consent which apply away from these personal situations. A few examples: Every time you get behind the wheel of a car in the United States, you have consented to allowing law enforcement to checking your blood alcohol levels. Refusing to take the test - blood, test--blood, urine or breathalyzer - is breathalyzer--is just not a viable defense, and while refusal cannot be taken as an admission of guilt, if you refuse they'll suspend your license for anything from a few months to a year, whether or not you're convicted of drunk driving. In the United States, certain firearms permits give consent to being continually ready to prove registration of the weapon to law enforcement whenever asked to do so. Likewise, many countries (notably not the US) have implied consent for organ donation. Unless you specifically refuse to donate, the legal system assumes you are consenting to donate your organs upon death.



!!Consent and Implied Consent - Medicine

Implied consent is also a legal term in medicine. This applies to the United States, and your local laws may be different. A full discussion of this is way beyond the scope of this article, but these kinds of dramatic life-and-death situations come up in fiction and so are worth examining. First, all medical procedures - period - require informed consent. A rational patient must be provided reasonable information about proposed interventions and also must be allowed to refuse care. However, when a patient cannot make decisions for themselves rationally, they have given the health care worker or rescuer implied consent to go ahead and execute appropriate care. If you are dying, and you are in your right mind, you can still wave-away any help and your autonomy in this matter must be recognized. If you fall unconscious before help arrives, your rescuers should assume you wanted help.

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Consent--Medicine

Implied consent is also a legal term in medicine. This applies to the United States, and your local laws may be different. A full discussion of this is way beyond the scope of this article, but these kinds of dramatic life-and-death situations come up in fiction and so are worth examining. First, all medical procedures - period - require procedures--period--require informed consent. A rational patient must be provided reasonable information about proposed interventions and also must be allowed to refuse care. However, when a patient cannot make decisions for themselves rationally, they have given the health care worker or rescuer implied consent to go ahead and execute appropriate care. If you are dying, and you are in your right mind, you can still wave-away any help and your autonomy in this matter must be recognized. If you fall unconscious before help arrives, your rescuers should assume you wanted help.



# When should something be considered "Safe"? One reasonable interpretation is that risks are known and minimized. However, one could also take it as a totalitarian demand for total safety: No risk whatsoever can ever be tolerated. This is unreasonable, because nothing is ever totally safe. Leaving your home is not safe; you could get mugged or ran over by a car. ''Staying'' in your home is not safe either -- you could be attacked by a robber, a plane or tree could crash into it, or there could be a fire or whatever. Yet there are people in the BDSM community who with complete sincerity and very literally speaking accuse each other of being unsafe because they have someone sit in a chair without having the chair bolted to the floor and the person tied to the chair -- because, what if they happened to fall off the chair? On the other end of the spectrum, some people consider lethally hazardous activities to be "safe" even as others insist that they are hugely underestimating the risks.

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# When should something be considered "Safe"? One reasonable interpretation is that risks are known and minimized. However, one could also take it as a totalitarian demand for total safety: No risk whatsoever can ever be tolerated. This is unreasonable, because nothing is ever totally safe. Leaving your home is not safe; you could get mugged or ran over by a car. ''Staying'' in your home is not safe either -- you either--you could be attacked by a robber, a plane or tree could crash into it, or there could be a fire or whatever. Yet there are people in the BDSM community who with complete sincerity and very literally speaking accuse each other of being unsafe because they have someone sit in a chair without having the chair bolted to the floor and the person tied to the chair -- because, chair--because, what if they happened to fall off the chair? On the other end of the spectrum, some people consider lethally hazardous activities to be "safe" even as others insist that they are hugely underestimating the risks.

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The right to reasonable protections means they can insist on means to warn of the need to stop, and for use of any reasonable birth control and/or disease protection with respect to how well they know you and your history. Two people who don't know each other or who are in a non-monogamous relationship should use condoms (or dental dams in the case of lesbians). Two people who know each other and have knowledge the other has no diseases might use a non-barrier contraceptive, and so on. This also includes the use of "safe words" to allow things to stop if it goes too far, especially if they're going to ignore "no" or "stop" when people are playing games involving fake non-consent (like oen plays the homeowner and the other plays the "burglar" who broke in and decides to "take advantage" of them, or the other way around). Or people doing BDSM, there may be minor amounts of pain they don't mind or actually like, but they must be given a means to indicate something is wrong to allow things to stop.

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The right to reasonable protections means they can insist on means to warn of the need to stop, and for use of any reasonable birth control and/or disease protection with respect to how well they know you and your history. Two people who don't know each other or who are in a non-monogamous relationship should use condoms (or dental dams in the case of lesbians). Two people who know each other and have knowledge the other has no diseases might use a non-barrier contraceptive, and so on. This also includes the use of "safe words" to allow things to stop if it goes too far, especially if they're going to ignore "no" or "stop" when people are playing games involving fake non-consent (like oen when plays the homeowner and the other plays the "burglar" who broke in and decides to "take advantage" of them, or the other way around). Or people doing BDSM, there may be minor amounts of pain they don't mind or actually like, but they must be given a means to indicate something is wrong to allow things to stop.



Permission is obvious explicit approval in advance. Two people are in bed together fooling around, and one says to the other they can go ahead and get inside them whenever they want. There is no doubt that consent has been given, and the person doesn't have ro worry they might do somnething the other didn't like or wasn't ready for.

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Permission is obvious explicit approval in advance. Two people are in bed together fooling around, and one says to the other they can go ahead and get inside them whenever they want. There is no doubt that consent has been given, and the person doesn't have ro to worry they might do somnething something the other didn't like or wasn't ready for.
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The simplest form of consent is plain consent. Someone saying "uh, yeah, sure" or whatever when aske4.

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The simplest form of consent is plain consent. Someone saying "uh, yeah, sure" or whatever when aske4.asked.
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Being able to stop without external consequences means that you're not being blackmailed or forced to do whatever is happening by extortion or threat to others, nor threatened with injury for refusing. The other person can tell you to leave or refuse to see you again, but they can't cause you problems with other people.

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Being able to stop without external consequences means that you're not being blackmailed or forced to do whatever is happening by extortion or threat to others, nor threatened with injury for refusing. The other person can leave (or tell you to leave leave) or refuse to see you again, but they can't hurt or injure you, nor cause you problems with other people.



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More than anything else, except in the case of permission (because permission is consent in advance), the other person must have the capacity to say no any time before something happens. And once something does happen, even where permission was given, they have every right to stop it. Even when things are in progress, or rather, ''especially'' when things are in progress.

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More than anything else, except in the case of permission (because permission is consent in advance), the other person must have the capacity to say no any time before something happens. And once something does happen, even where permission was given, they have every right to stop it.it, to "revoke" consent. Even when things are in progress, or rather, ''especially'' when things are in progress.



Then there are exceptions to the rules because it isn't thought to be a good idea to put some kid in jail because they're having consensual sex with their boyfriend or girlfriend who just happens to be below the normal age of consent and the two of them are close in age, so exceptions are sometimes made, e.g. in Maryland the age of consent is 16, but it's legal to have sex with someone 15 if you're under 21. In Colorado the age of consent is 17, but it's legal to have consensual sex with someone 15 or 16 as long as you're no more than 10 years older. In California all sex with anyone under 18 is a crime (yes, that means if a 15-yeat5-old boy is having consensual sex with his 17-year-old girlfriend, ''both'' are committing a crime), but the crime is reduced from a felony (with prison time of at least 3 years) to a misdemeanor (maximum jail time of six months and a fine) if they are no more than four years difference in age.

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Then there are exceptions to the rules because it isn't thought to be a good idea to put some kid in jail because they're having consensual sex with their boyfriend or girlfriend who just happens to be below the normal age of consent and the two of them are close in age, so exceptions are sometimes made, e.g. in Maryland the age of consent is 16, but it's legal to have sex with someone 15 if you're under 21. In Colorado the age of consent is 17, but it's legal to have consensual sex with someone 15 or 16 as long as you're no more than 10 years older. In California all sex with anyone under 18 is a crime (yes, that means if a 15-yeat5-old 15-year-old boy is having consensual sex with his 17-year-old girlfriend, ''both'' are committing a crime), but the crime is reduced from a felony (with prison time of at least 3 years) to a misdemeanor (maximum jail time of six months and a fine) if they are no more than four years difference in age.
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The right to reasonable protections means they can insist on means to warn of the need to stop, and for use of any reasonable birth control and/or disease protection with respect to how well they know you and your history. Two people who don't know each other or who are in a non-monogamous relationship should use condoms. Two people who know each other and have knowledge the other has no diseases might use a non-barrier contraceptive, and so on. This also includes the use of "safe words" to allow things to stop if it goes too far, especially if they're going to ignore "no" or "stop" when people are playing games involving fake non-consent (like oen plays the homeowner and the other plays the "burglar" who broke in and decides to "take advantage" of them, or the other way around). Or people doing BDSM, there may be minor amounts of pain they don't mind or actually like, but they must be given a means to indicate something is wrong to allow things to stop.

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The right to reasonable protections means they can insist on means to warn of the need to stop, and for use of any reasonable birth control and/or disease protection with respect to how well they know you and your history. Two people who don't know each other or who are in a non-monogamous relationship should use condoms.condoms (or dental dams in the case of lesbians). Two people who know each other and have knowledge the other has no diseases might use a non-barrier contraceptive, and so on. This also includes the use of "safe words" to allow things to stop if it goes too far, especially if they're going to ignore "no" or "stop" when people are playing games involving fake non-consent (like oen plays the homeowner and the other plays the "burglar" who broke in and decides to "take advantage" of them, or the other way around). Or people doing BDSM, there may be minor amounts of pain they don't mind or actually like, but they must be given a means to indicate something is wrong to allow things to stop.

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First, does the person reasonably understand what is happening? Second, does the person have the right to stop what is happening without external consequences? Third, does the person have he right to require reasonable protections? Let's go over each of these.

Reasonable understanding means you know what's going on and what to expect. If a guy and a girl are on a couch heavy necking, and he reaches under her dress, pulls off her panties and sticks it in her, that's certainly not what she was expecting, or even in the most charitable interpretation, not ''yet'', anyway.

Being able to stop without external consequences means that you're not being blackmailed or forced to do whatever is happening by extortion or threat to others, nor threatened with injury for refusing. The other person can tell you to leave or refuse to see you again, but they can't cause you problems with other people.

The right to reasonable protections means they can insist on means to warn of the need to stop, and for use of any reasonable birth control and/or disease protection with respect to how well they know you and your history. Two people who don't know each other or who are in a non-monogamous relationship should use condoms. Two people who know each other and have knowledge the other has no diseases might use a non-barrier contraceptive, and so on. This also includes the use of "safe words" to allow things to stop if it goes too far, especially if they're going to ignore "no" or "stop" when people are playing games involving fake non-consent (like oen plays the homeowner and the other plays the "burglar" who broke in and decides to "take advantage" of them, or the other way around). Or people doing BDSM, there may be minor amounts of pain they don't mind or actually like, but they must be given a means to indicate something is wrong to allow things to stop.

We can divide consent into three flavors. Permission, plain consent and implied consent.
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Permission is obvious explicit approval in advance. Two people are in bed together fooling around, and one says to the other they can go ahead and get inside them whenever they want. There is no doubt that consent has been given, and the person doesn't have ro worry they might do somnething the other didn't like or wasn't ready for.



The simplest form of consent is plain consent. Someone saying "uh, yeah, sure" or whatever. But what if the person doesn't know what he or she is getting into? What if they're not in a position to say no?

We think that consensus requires equality between the parties in terms of power and responsibility, which is why children and the mentally disabled are considered incapable of consenting with able adults. And even between adults, there can still be issues about knowing what they are getting into and not getting exploited, which is why the ethics get trickier when there are issues of power and authority (such as teachers and students, supervisors and employees, etc.). See Consenting Adults and Informed Consent below.

We also have the reverse issue, with consent being given such high priority that it actually takes away people's right to their own bodies. See Implied Consent below.

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The simplest form of consent is plain consent. Someone saying "uh, yeah, sure" or whatever. But whatever when aske4.

!!1Implied Consent in an existing situation where intimacy is already established
This one's a little touchy because some people feel there is no such thing, but in real situations it's probably very common and expected. A man and a woman are in bed together, he's been performing oral sex on her for some time and she's enjoyed it. So then he decides to have his fun. He uses his hands to push her legs apart, climbs on top of her, prepares himself, then gets inside her, taking a full ten seconds to do so before he starts moving. She clearly knew
what he was going to do, and said nothing. She did not say it was okay, nor did she tell him no. Given the circumstances it is reasonable to presume she consented to this.

With the possible exception of when the person has permission, there are always questions that can occur. What
if the person doesn't know what he or she is getting into? What if they're not in a position to say no?

More than anything else, except in the case of permission (because permission is consent in advance), the other person must have the capacity to say no any time before something happens. And once something does happen, even where permission was given, they have every right to stop it. Even when things are in progress, or rather, ''especially'' when things are in progress.

We think that consensus requires equality between the parties in terms of power and responsibility, which is why children and the mentally disabled are considered incapable of consenting with able adults. And even between adults, there can still be issues about knowing what they are getting into and not getting exploited, which is why the ethics get trickier when there are issues of power and authority (such as teachers and students, supervisors and employees, etc.). See Consenting '''Consenting Adults and Informed Consent Consent''' below.

We also have the reverse issue, with consent being given such high priority that it actually takes away people's right to their own bodies. See Implied Consent '''Implied Consent''' below.



Most places have a set of fixed rules established by law with some exceptions called "age of consent." In the United Kingdom, Canada, 30 U.S. states and the District of Columbia, the age of consent is 16. In 12 U.S. states, the age of consent is 17, and the other 8 states set it at 18.

Then there are exceptions to the rules because it isn't thought to be a good idea to put some kid in jail because they're having consensual sex with their boyfriend or girlfriend who just happens to be below the normal age of consent and the two of them are close in age, so exceptions are sometimes made, e.g. in Maryland the age of consent is 16, but it's legal to have sex with someone 15 if you're under 21. In Colorado the age of consent is 17, but it's legal to have consensual sex with someone 15 or 16 as long as you're no more than 10 years older. In California all sex with anyone under 18 is a crime, but the crime is reduced from a felony (with prison time of at least 3 years) to a misdemeanor (maximum jail time of six months and a fine) if they are no more than four years difference in age.

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Most places have a set of fixed rules established by law with some exceptions called "age of consent." In the United Kingdom, Canada, 30 31 U.S. states and the District of Columbia, the age of consent is 16. In 12 8 U.S. states, the age of consent is 17, and the other 8 11 states set it at 18.

Then there are exceptions to the rules because it isn't thought to be a good idea to put some kid in jail because they're having consensual sex with their boyfriend or girlfriend who just happens to be below the normal age of consent and the two of them are close in age, so exceptions are sometimes made, e.g. in Maryland the age of consent is 16, but it's legal to have sex with someone 15 if you're under 21. In Colorado the age of consent is 17, but it's legal to have consensual sex with someone 15 or 16 as long as you're no more than 10 years older. In California all sex with anyone under 18 is a crime, crime (yes, that means if a 15-yeat5-old boy is having consensual sex with his 17-year-old girlfriend, ''both'' are committing a crime), but the crime is reduced from a felony (with prison time of at least 3 years) to a misdemeanor (maximum jail time of six months and a fine) if they are no more than four years difference in age.
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It's sometimes been said when there's an issue of consensual sex where one or both are below the age of consent, the only issue is what the other one's parents think. If their parents are okay with it, it doesn't matter if it is illegal or not. They'll probably let the two use their child's bedroom, so it's private. The person who wants to have sex isn't going to turn the other in, and their parents aren't, so the police don't know and nobody's going to jail.



This can be handled by giving consent beforehand; for instance, asking your significant partner to wake you up with ... well with love. Is such stated consent even needed? Can't lovers just hug each other without asking permission? And can such consent even be given? While most people would probably answer "yes" on both questions, there are those who say no on one or even both. The argument goes that even if you consented beforehand, you might be having a bad morning now and not want any contact -- there's no way to know until afterwards, and by then it's too late. Others would argue that this extreme defense against sexual oppression becomes oppressive in itself.

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This can be handled by giving consent beforehand; beforehand ("permission"); for instance, asking your significant partner to wake you up with ... well with love. Is such stated consent even needed? Can't lovers just hug each other without asking permission? And can such consent even be given? While most people would probably answer "yes" on both questions, there are those who say no on one or even both. The argument goes that even if you consented beforehand, you might be having a bad morning now and not want any contact -- there's no way to know until afterwards, and by then it's too late. Others would argue that this extreme defense against sexual oppression becomes oppressive in itself.
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To be "rational," you must be an adult or emancipated minor, must be judged to be able to make sound decisions, and must not be in some form of altered mental status such as intoxicated or unconscious. The classic example is when a paramedic finds a patient knocked out in a car accident and heavily injured, he does not have to wait for the patient to come to before beginning treatment and evacuation. A heroin addict who is semi-conscious cannot wave-away treatment for his overdose. A child or a person with schizophrenia cannot make many decisions at all.

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To be "rational," you must be an adult or emancipated minor, must be judged to be able to make sound decisions, and must not be in some form of altered mental status such as intoxicated or unconscious. The classic example is when a paramedic finds a patient knocked out in a car accident and heavily injured, he does not have to wait for the patient to come to before beginning treatment and evacuation. A heroin addict who is semi-conscious cannot wave-away treatment for his overdose. A child or a person with severe schizophrenia cannot make many decisions at all.

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As said in the Discussion page the last time you made a similar edit, I have been able to find no legal or ethical reference in which the distinction you make between \"consent\" and \"permission\" is drawn. If you can provide some reference or citation to the contrary, please do so.


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Permission is the "gold standard" of consent, where someone outright says it's okay if you ask them if you can do something, or they tell you to go ahead before you even ask. Permission is a higher standard than mere consent, as such, If everything involved permission, well, we'd never have problems with questions of whether consent had occurred. Permission differs from consent in one important point: it's explicit and it occurs in advance of whatever the other person is doing. Of course, this still has all the other problems raised about consent, below; does the person know what they are granting permission to do or do they have the capacity to grant permission?

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!!!Permission
Permission is the "gold standard" of consent, where someone outright says it's okay if you ask them if you can do something, or they tell you to go ahead before you even ask. Permission is a higher standard than mere consent, as such, If everything involved permission, well, we'd never have problems with questions of whether consent had occurred. Permission differs from consent in one important point: it's explicit and it occurs in advance of whatever the other person is doing. Of course, this still has all the other problems raised about consent, below; does the person know what they are granting permission to do or do they have the capacity to grant permission?



We think that consensus requires equality between the parties in terms of power and responsibility, which is why children and the mentally disabled are considered incapable of consenting with able adults. And with adults, we still have issues about them knowing what they are getting into and not getting exploited. See Consenting Adults and Informed Consent below.

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We think that consensus requires equality between the parties in terms of power and responsibility, which is why children and the mentally disabled are considered incapable of consenting with able adults. And with even between adults, we there can still have be issues about them knowing what they are getting into and not getting exploited.exploited, which is why the ethics get trickier when there are issues of power and authority (such as teachers and students, supervisors and employees, etc.). See Consenting Adults and Informed Consent below.



The idea that everyone involved is not only consenting, but also an adult -- and thus defined as a person capable of giving meaningful consent. Adults are allowed to do business, and also to have sex with each other.

Actually, the above is a bit of a circular definition, because it is saying that a consenting adult is a person capable of giving consent. Of course, this ignores another matter that some people want to ignore or sweep under the rug: teenagers having sex. Are they likely to understand what they are doing? Yes, probably. And is it reasonable to allow them to do so? Well, the fact that teenagers do have sex, whether or not their parents think they should indicates that it probably is reasonable.

So what has come about of this is a set of fixed rules established by law with some exceptions called "age of consent." In most places, you do not have to be a "consenting adult" you just have to be consenting and be old enough. In the United Kingdom, Canada, 30 U.S. states and the District of Columbia, the age of consent is 16. In 12 U.S. states, the age of consent is 17, and the other 8 states set it at 18. To add to this, there are exceptions. If a person is in a position of authority over them (like a coach or teacher) the student either has to be married to them or they have to be at least 18.

Then there are exceptions to the rules because it wasn't thought to be a good idea to put some kid in jail because they're having consensual sex with their boyfriend or girlfriend who just happens to be below the normal age of consent and the two of them are close in age, so new rules got added that either made consensual sex with someone below the age of consent either legal or reduced the crime penalties, e.g. in Maryland the age of consent is 16, but it's legal to have sex with someone 15 if you're under 21. In Colorado the age of consent is 17, but it's legal to have consensual sex with someone 15 or 16 as long as you're no more than 10 years older. In California all sex with anyone under 18 is a crime, but the crime is reduced from a felony (with prison time of at least 3 years) to a misdemeanor (maximum jail time of six months and a fine) if they are no more than four years difference in age.

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The idea that everyone involved is not only consenting, but also an adult -- and thus defined as a person capable of giving meaningful consent. Adults are allowed to do business, and also to adult.

Most places
have sex with each other.

Actually, the above is a bit of a circular definition, because it is saying that a consenting adult is a person capable of giving consent. Of course, this ignores another matter that some people want to ignore or sweep under the rug: teenagers having sex. Are they likely to understand what they are doing? Yes, probably. And is it reasonable to allow them to do so? Well, the fact that teenagers do have sex, whether or not their parents think they should indicates that it probably is reasonable.

So what has come about of this is
a set of fixed rules established by law with some exceptions called "age of consent." In most places, you do not have to be a "consenting adult" you just have to be consenting and be old enough. " In the United Kingdom, Canada, 30 U.S. states and the District of Columbia, the age of consent is 16. In 12 U.S. states, the age of consent is 17, and the other 8 states set it at 18. To add to this, there are exceptions. If a person is in a position of authority over them (like a coach or teacher) the student either has to be married to them or they have to be at least 18.

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Then there are exceptions to the rules because it wasn't isn't thought to be a good idea to put some kid in jail because they're having consensual sex with their boyfriend or girlfriend who just happens to be below the normal age of consent and the two of them are close in age, so new rules got added that either made consensual sex with someone below the age of consent either legal or reduced the crime penalties, exceptions are sometimes made, e.g. in Maryland the age of consent is 16, but it's legal to have sex with someone 15 if you're under 21. In Colorado the age of consent is 17, but it's legal to have consensual sex with someone 15 or 16 as long as you're no more than 10 years older. In California all sex with anyone under 18 is a crime, but the crime is reduced from a felony (with prison time of at least 3 years) to a misdemeanor (maximum jail time of six months and a fine) if they are no more than four years difference in age.



We also have the issue of people not wanting to formally ask each other for consent all the time. For most people in a relationship, it would feel quite awkward if your partner was never allowed to touch you without having to ask for consent. You'd probably think it was weird if they always asked you for consent.

This can be handled by giving consent beforehand (which is permission, as noted earlier) -- for instance, asking your significant partner to wake you up with ... well with love. Is such stated consent even needed -- can't lovers just hug each other without asking permission? And can such consent even be given? While most people would probably answer "yes" on both questions, there are those who say no on one or even both. The argument goes that even if you consented beforehand, you might be having a bad morning now and not want any contact -- there's no way to know until afterwards, and by then it's too late. Others would argue that this extreme defense against sexual oppression becomes oppressive in itself.

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We also have the issue of people not wanting to formally ask each other for consent all the time. For most people in a relationship, it would feel quite awkward if your partner was never allowed to touch you without having to explicitly ask for consent. You'd probably think it was weird if they always asked you for consent.

consent every time.

This can be handled by giving consent beforehand (which is permission, as noted earlier) -- beforehand; for instance, asking your significant partner to wake you up with ... well with love. Is such stated consent even needed -- can't needed? Can't lovers just hug each other without asking permission? And can such consent even be given? While most people would probably answer "yes" on both questions, there are those who say no on one or even both. The argument goes that even if you consented beforehand, you might be having a bad morning now and not want any contact -- there's no way to know until afterwards, and by then it's too late. Others would argue that this extreme defense against sexual oppression becomes oppressive in itself.

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!!!Permission
Permission is the "gold standard" of consent, where someone outright says it's okay if you ask them if you can do something, or they tell you to go ahead before you even ask. Permission is a higher standard than mere consent, as such, If everything involved permission, well, we'd never have problems with questions of whether consent had occurred. Permission differs from consent in one important point: it's explicit and it occurs in advance of whatever the other person is doing. Of course, this still has all the other problems raised about consent, below; does the person know what they are granting permission to do or do they have the capacity to grant permission?




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Actually, the above is a bit of a circular definition, because it is saying that a consenting adult is a person capable of giving consent. Of course, this ignores another matter that some people want to ignore or sweep under the rug: teenagers having sex. Are they likely to understand what they are doing? Yes, probably. And is it reasonable to allow them to do so? Well, the fact that teenagers do have sex, whether or not their parents think they should indicates that it probably is reasonable.

So what has come about of this is a set of fixed rules established by law with some exceptions called "age of consent." In most places, you do not have to be a "consenting adult" you just have to be consenting and be old enough. In the United Kingdom, Canada, 30 U.S. states and the District of Columbia, the age of consent is 16. In 12 U.S. states, the age of consent is 17, and the other 8 states set it at 18. To add to this, there are exceptions. If a person is in a position of authority over them (like a coach or teacher) the student either has to be married to them or they have to be at least 18.

Then there are exceptions to the rules because it wasn't thought to be a good idea to put some kid in jail because they're having consensual sex with their boyfriend or girlfriend who just happens to be below the normal age of consent and the two of them are close in age, so new rules got added that either made consensual sex with someone below the age of consent either legal or reduced the crime penalties, e.g. in Maryland the age of consent is 16, but it's legal to have sex with someone 15 if you're under 21. In Colorado the age of consent is 17, but it's legal to have consensual sex with someone 15 or 16 as long as you're no more than 10 years older. In California all sex with anyone under 18 is a crime, but the crime is reduced from a felony (with prison time of at least 3 years) to a misdemeanor (maximum jail time of six months and a fine) if they are no more than four years difference in age.

Rather than worry about all of these rules and exceptions, for the rest of this article we'll presume we're referring to people who are all at least 18 years of age.



We also have the issue of people not wanting to formally ask each other for consent all the time. For most people in a relationship, it would feel quite awkward if your partner was never allowed to touch you without having to ask for consent.

This can be handled by giving consent beforehand -- for instance, asking your significant partner to wake you up with ... well with love. Is such stated consent even needed -- can't lovers just hug each other without asking permission? And can such consent even be given? While most people would probably answer "yes" on both questions, there are those who say no on one or even both. The argument goes that even if you consented beforehand, you might be having a bad morning now and not want any contact -- there's no way to know until afterwards, and by then it's too late. Others would argue that this extreme defense against sexual oppression becomes oppressive in itself.

For implied or generic consent to work, though, it's necessary for those involved to ''find out'' what they like. You can consent to "experiment," but in that situation, it isn't clear what you've consented to. There is a lot of controversy over what constitutes an acceptable context for experimentation:

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We also have the issue of people not wanting to formally ask each other for consent all the time. For most people in a relationship, it would feel quite awkward if your partner was never allowed to touch you without having to ask for consent. \n\n You'd probably think it was weird if they always asked you for consent.

This can be handled by giving consent beforehand (which is permission, as noted earlier) -- for instance, asking your significant partner to wake you up with ... well with love. Is such stated consent even needed -- can't lovers just hug each other without asking permission? And can such consent even be given? While most people would probably answer "yes" on both questions, there are those who say no on one or even both. The argument goes that even if you consented beforehand, you might be having a bad morning now and not want any contact -- there's no way to know until afterwards, and by then it's too late. Others would argue that this extreme defense against sexual oppression becomes oppressive in itself.

Couples that know each other will often have a sense of how their partner feels, or may simply try intimacy and if the other person gives an indication or says they're not interested, then they stop, and it's understood they've not consented, because they know each other the attempt isn't "wrong," and by stopping they show that they respect the other person.

For implied or generic consent like that to work, though, it's necessary for those involved to ''find out'' what they like. You can consent to "experiment," but in that situation, it isn't clear what you've consented to. There is a lot of controversy over what constitutes an acceptable context for experimentation:

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However, consent is not a simple matter... Also note that 'consent' is not 'permission'. Consent is a much lower standard, it merely means a reasonable belief the person agreed to something. Permission is an explicit agreement. Permission always includes consent, but consent only implies permission.

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However, consent is not a simple matter... Also note that 'consent' is not 'permission'. Consent is a much lower standard, it merely means a reasonable belief the person agreed to something. Permission is an explicit agreement. Permission always includes consent, but consent only implies permission.
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Now, in that respect you can have consent or permission. If a guy takes a girl into his bedroom, takes off her clothes and gets in bed with her and proceeds to fondle her and go on from there, as long as she's conscious and old enough to be considered able to consent to sex, that's okay. As long as she doesn't say no, it's considered he has consent, even if he has sex with her without asking her first. What the law looks at, if the issue comes up, is whether she could have changed her mind or did do so.

That's why having sex with a drunk girl who passes out is rape (she can't tell you if she changed her mind), but not if you get inside her and she complains and you stop (you had reason to believe she consented, and because she told you she didn't and you stopped immediately, you are considered not to have acted improperly).

However, the sky's the limit if you have permission. If your regular girlfriend tells you you can have sex with her any time you want, even if she's asleep or drunk, then she's given you permission, and as long as she gave it freely, means she's not likely to complain you raped her if she wakes up in the middle of something you started while she was asleep. She still has the right to change her mind at any time, however, and you generally have to stop immediately if she does.

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Now, in that respect you can have consent or permission. If a guy takes a girl into his bedroom, takes off her clothes and gets in bed with her and proceeds to fondle her and go on from there, as long as she's conscious and old enough to be considered able to consent to sex, that's okay. As long as she doesn't say no, it's considered he has consent, even if he has sex with her without asking her first. What the law looks at, if the issue comes up, is whether she could have changed her mind or did do so.

That's why having sex with a drunk girl who passes out is rape (she can't tell you if she changed her mind), but not if you get inside her and she complains and you stop (you had reason to believe she consented, and because she told you she didn't and you stopped immediately, you are considered not to have acted improperly).

However, the sky's the limit if you have permission. If your regular girlfriend tells you you can have sex with her any time you want, even if she's asleep or drunk, then she's given you permission, and as long as she gave it freely, means she's not likely to complain you raped her if she wakes up in the middle of something you started while she was asleep. She still has the right to change her mind at any time, however, and you generally have to stop immediately if she does.



This can be handled by giving consent beforehand -- for instance, asking your significant partner to wake you up with ... well with love. (Technically, as noted earlier, this is not mere consent, it's ''permission''.) Is such stated consent even needed -- can't lovers just hug each other without asking permission? And can such consent even be given? While most people would probably answer "yes" on both questions, there are those who say no on one or even both. The argument goes that even if you consented beforehand, you might be having a bad morning now and not want any contact -- there's no way to know until afterwards, and by then it's too late. Others would argue that this extreme defense against sexual oppression becomes oppressive in itself.

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This can be handled by giving consent beforehand -- for instance, asking your significant partner to wake you up with ... well with love. (Technically, as noted earlier, this is not mere consent, it's ''permission''.) Is such stated consent even needed -- can't lovers just hug each other without asking permission? And can such consent even be given? While most people would probably answer "yes" on both questions, there are those who say no on one or even both. The argument goes that even if you consented beforehand, you might be having a bad morning now and not want any contact -- there's no way to know until afterwards, and by then it's too late. Others would argue that this extreme defense against sexual oppression becomes oppressive in itself.

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However, consent is not a simple matter...

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However, consent is not a simple matter...
matter... Also note that 'consent' is not 'permission'. Consent is a much lower standard, it merely means a reasonable belief the person agreed to something. Permission is an explicit agreement. Permission always includes consent, but consent only implies permission.



Now, in that respect you can have consent or permission. If a guy takes a girl into his bedroom, takes off her clothes and gets in bed with her and proceeds to fondle her and go on from there, as long as she's conscious and old enough to be considered able to consent to sex, that's okay. As long as she doesn't say no, it's considered he has consent, even if he has sex with her without asking her first. What the law looks at, if the issue comes up, is whether she could have changed her mind or did do so.

That's why having sex with a drunk girl who passes out is rape (she can't tell you if she changed her mind), but not if you get inside her and she complains and you stop (you had reason to believe she consented, and because she told you she didn't and you stopped immediately, you are considered not to have acted improperly).

However, the sky's the limit if you have permission. If your regular girlfriend tells you you can have sex with her any time you want, even if she's asleep or drunk, then she's given you permission, and as long as she gave it freely, means she's not likely to complain you raped her if she wakes up in the middle of something you started while she was asleep. She still has the right to change her mind at any time, however, and you generally have to stop immediately if she does.



This can be handled by giving consent beforehand -- for instance, asking your significant partner to wake you up with ... well with love. Is such stated consent even needed -- can't lovers just hug each other without asking permission? And can such consent even be given? While most people would probably answer "yes" on both questions, there are those who say no on one or even both. The argument goes that even if you consented beforehand, you might be having a bad morning now and not want any contact -- there's no way to know until afterwards, and by then it's too late. Others would argue that this extreme defense against sexual oppression becomes oppressive in itself.

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This can be handled by giving consent beforehand -- for instance, asking your significant partner to wake you up with ... well with love. (Technically, as noted earlier, this is not mere consent, it's ''permission''.) Is such stated consent even needed -- can't lovers just hug each other without asking permission? And can such consent even be given? While most people would probably answer "yes" on both questions, there are those who say no on one or even both. The argument goes that even if you consented beforehand, you might be having a bad morning now and not want any contact -- there's no way to know until afterwards, and by then it's too late. Others would argue that this extreme defense against sexual oppression becomes oppressive in itself.



There are some cases where that might be acceptable; it is impossible to ask for consent to talk to someone, for instance, since that would itself require you to talk to them.[[note]]Exceptions are granted if you're communicating through a liaison, but that means your liaison has to deal with these issues instead.[[/note]] It is also common to block a person's path to get their attention, shake their hand, and occasionally even enter their home without asking first, and without being explicitly given permission. These things are established as acceptable by conventions like body language, and by the concept of harassment--you may have the right to talk to whomever you like, but they can revoke that 'default consent' by telling you to go away, and can even sue you for failing to do so.

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There are some cases where that might be acceptable; it is impossible to ask for consent to talk to someone, for instance, since that would itself require you to talk to them.[[note]]Exceptions are granted if you're communicating through a liaison, but that means your liaison has to deal with these issues instead.[[/note]] (Actually, that's not completely true, because we've had a method for decades to do exactly that; kids learn in school to ''raise their hand'' to ask for permission to speak.) It is also common to block a person's path to get their attention, shake their hand, and occasionally even enter their home without asking first, and without being explicitly given permission. These things are established as acceptable by conventions like body language, and by the concept of harassment--you may have the right to talk to whomever you like, but they can revoke that 'default consent' by telling you to go away, and can even sue you for failing to do so.



The law also has several cases of implied consent which apply away from these personal situations. A few examples: Every time you get behind the wheel of a car in the United States, you have consented to allowing law enforcement to checking your blood alcohol levels. Refusing to take the test - field sobriety or breathalyzer - is just not a viable defense, and in some states is taken as an admission of guilt. In the United States, certain firearms permits give consent to being continually ready to prove registration of the weapon to law enforcement whenever asked to do so. Likewise, many countries (notably not the US) have implied consent for organ donation. Unless you specifically refuse to donate, the legal system assumes you are consenting to donate your organs upon death.

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The law also has several cases of implied consent which apply away from these personal situations. A few examples: Every time you get behind the wheel of a car in the United States, you have consented to allowing law enforcement to checking your blood alcohol levels. Refusing to take the test - field sobriety blood, urine or breathalyzer - is just not a viable defense, and in some states is while refusal cannot be taken as an admission of guilt.guilt, if you refuse they'll suspend your license for anything from a few months to a year, whether or not you're convicted of drunk driving. In the United States, certain firearms permits give consent to being continually ready to prove registration of the weapon to law enforcement whenever asked to do so. Likewise, many countries (notably not the US) have implied consent for organ donation. Unless you specifically refuse to donate, the legal system assumes you are consenting to donate your organs upon death.



# When should something be considered "Safe"? One reasonable interpretation is that risks are known and minimized. However, one could also take it as a totalitarian demand for total safety: No risk whatsoever can ever be tolerated. This is unreasonable, because nothing is ever totally safe. Leaving your home is not safe; you could get mugged or ran over by a car. ''Staying'' in your home is not safe either -- you could be attacked by a robber or there could be a fire or whatever. Yet there are people in the BDSM community who with complete sincerity and very literally speaking accuse each other of being unsafe because they have someone sit in a chair without having the chair bolted to the floor and the person tied to the chair -- because, what if they happened to fall off the chair? On the other end of the spectrum, some people consider lethally hazardous activities to be "safe" even as others insist that they are hugely underestimating the risks.

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# When should something be considered "Safe"? One reasonable interpretation is that risks are known and minimized. However, one could also take it as a totalitarian demand for total safety: No risk whatsoever can ever be tolerated. This is unreasonable, because nothing is ever totally safe. Leaving your home is not safe; you could get mugged or ran over by a car. ''Staying'' in your home is not safe either -- you could be attacked by a robber robber, a plane or tree could crash into it, or there could be a fire or whatever. Yet there are people in the BDSM community who with complete sincerity and very literally speaking accuse each other of being unsafe because they have someone sit in a chair without having the chair bolted to the floor and the person tied to the chair -- because, what if they happened to fall off the chair? On the other end of the spectrum, some people consider lethally hazardous activities to be "safe" even as others insist that they are hugely underestimating the risks.

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As human beings, we all have the right to our own lives and the control over our own bodies (not an absolute mind you as you shall see below) Thus, doing something serious to someone else's body requires consent. Acts that require consent include:

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As human beings, we all have the right to our own lives and the control over our own bodies (not an absolute mind you as you shall see below) bodies. Thus, doing something serious to someone else's body requires consent. Acts that require consent include:



Complicating the issue is that many tines a person who is so dressed is infact looking for such attention. That DOES NOT mean that consent to your specific advance is to be implied. After all think about it, she (or he) may not be looking for what you are, you might not be of their perferred gender! might not be interested in you specifically etc etc



A patient who is losing consciousness who has not revoked consent continues to give implied consent right until they are out. For example, a patient who has been wheeled to the OR and prepared for surgery could refuse care and be wheeled right out of the OR. Once the patient is under (presumably having not objected while conscious), implied consent governs the entire procedure until the patient awakens again. Likewise, if a complication is discovered, your consent is still needed for the new situation. For example, a patient who is in for an appendectomy is opened and the surgeon discovers a malignancy. The surgeon cannot simply attempt to remove the cancer "while he's in there anyway," and the patient must be informed about the discovery and allowed to give consent to the tumor's removal. In any case practically speaking, even if you had given consent the surgeon will usually need a different treatment plan for the new thing anyway. The above restriction generally does not embrace complications which arise during the course of surgery, meaning that if you say have an allergic reaction to a drug or heart arrhythmia during surgery to repair a broken leg, they are able to act on it.

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A patient who is losing consciousness who has not revoked consent continues to give implied consent right until they are out. For example, a patient who has been wheeled to the OR and prepared for surgery could refuse care and be wheeled right out of the OR. Once the patient is under (presumably having not objected while conscious), implied consent governs the entire procedure until the patient awakens again. Likewise, if a complication is discovered, your consent is still needed for the new situation. For example, a patient who is in for an appendectomy is opened and the surgeon discovers a malignancy. The surgeon cannot simply attempt to remove the cancer "while he's in there anyway," and the patient must be informed about the discovery and allowed to give consent to the tumor's removal. In any case practically speaking, even if you had given consent the surgeon will usually need a different treatment plan for the new thing anyway. The above restriction generally does not embrace complications which arise during the course of surgery, meaning that if you say have an allergic reaction to a drug or heart arrhythmia during surgery to repair a broken leg, they are able to act on it.

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As human beings, we all have the right to our own lives and the control over our own bodies. Thus, doing something serious to someone else's body requires consent. Acts that require consent include:

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As human beings, we all have the right to our own lives and the control over our own bodies. bodies (not an absolute mind you as you shall see below) Thus, doing something serious to someone else's body requires consent. Acts that require consent include:



* All and any sexual acts, including fondling -- for example, grabbing a stranger's ass can be considered sexual assault.

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* All and any sexual acts, including fondling -- for example, grabbing a stranger's ass can be considered sexual assault.assault, depending on the jurisdiction.



The problem with this is that some people consider others to have given implied consent even when no such implication was intended at all. The most infamous version of this is guys who believe that if a woman is wearing a short skirt (or if she's not wearing a veil) then she's implying that she wants unknown men to stare at her, touch her, or [[SexIsEvilAndIAmHorny worse]]. This has given some people (mostly women) a certain aversion to the concept of implied consent.

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The problem with this is that some people consider others to have given implied consent even when no such implication was intended at all. The most infamous version of this is guys who believe that if a woman is wearing a short skirt (or if she's not wearing a veil) then clothing considered to be scanty by the standards of her culture and or locale she's implying that she wants unknown men to stare at her, touch her, or [[SexIsEvilAndIAmHorny worse]]. This has given some people (mostly women) a certain aversion to the concept of implied consent.
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Complicating the issue is that many tines a person who is so dressed is infact looking for such attention. That DOES NOT mean that consent to your specific advance is to be implied. After all think about it, she (or he) may not be looking for what you are, you might not be of their perferred gender! might not be interested in you specifically etc etc



A patient who is losing consciousness who has not revoked consent continues to give implied consent right until they are out. For example, a patient who has been wheeled to the OR and prepared for surgery could refuse care and be wheeled right out of the OR. Once the patient is under (presumably having not objected while conscious), implied consent governs the entire procedure until the patient awakens again. Likewise, if a complication is discovered, your consent is still needed for the new situation. For example, a patient who is in for an appendectomy is opened and the surgeon discovers a malignancy. The surgeon cannot simply attempt to remove the cancer "while he's in there anyway," and the patient must be informed about the discovery and allowed to give consent to the tumor's removal.

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A patient who is losing consciousness who has not revoked consent continues to give implied consent right until they are out. For example, a patient who has been wheeled to the OR and prepared for surgery could refuse care and be wheeled right out of the OR. Once the patient is under (presumably having not objected while conscious), implied consent governs the entire procedure until the patient awakens again. Likewise, if a complication is discovered, your consent is still needed for the new situation. For example, a patient who is in for an appendectomy is opened and the surgeon discovers a malignancy. The surgeon cannot simply attempt to remove the cancer "while he's in there anyway," and the patient must be informed about the discovery and allowed to give consent to the tumor's removal.
removal. In any case practically speaking, even if you had given consent the surgeon will usually need a different treatment plan for the new thing anyway. The above restriction generally does not embrace complications which arise during the course of surgery, meaning that if you say have an allergic reaction to a drug or heart arrhythmia during surgery to repair a broken leg, they are able to act on it.
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# When can a person be considered sufficiently sane for a certain activity? There is room for some really valid discussion here, regarding for example the line between doing SSC BDSM and being self-destructive. However, some people land in a position that people with not-so-severe mental problems consider robs them of their rights as adults. Some people, in particular those on the autistic spectrum, have difficulty communicating when in a heightened emotional state. That makes it impractical for them to communicate during sex, even if they have a {{Safeword}}. Does that mean they shouldn't be allowed to have kinky sex? Does it mean they shouldn't be allowed to practice martial arts?

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# When can a person be considered sufficiently sane for a certain activity? There is room for some really valid discussion here, regarding for example the line between doing SSC BDSM and being self-destructive. However, some people land in a position that people with not-so-severe mental problems consider robs them of their rights as adults. Some people, in particular those on the autistic spectrum, people have difficulty communicating when in a heightened emotional state. That makes it impractical for them to communicate during sex, even if they have a {{Safeword}}. Does that mean they shouldn't be allowed to have kinky sex? Does it mean they shouldn't be allowed to practice martial arts?
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The simplest form of consent is plain consent. Someone saying "uh, yeah, sure" or whatever. But what if the person doesn't know what s/he's getting into? What if s/he's not in a position to say no?

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The simplest form of consent is plain consent. Someone saying "uh, yeah, sure" or whatever. But what if the person doesn't know what s/he's he or she is getting into? What if s/he's they're not in a position to say no?
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While both constructs are useful, they are far from waterproof. What if someone is an adult but not informed? Scams are not cool! Or what if someone who's not adult is "informed" and consents to something that is [[NotSafeForWork Not Safe For Kids]] and later regrets it? One of the main points of having age limits is that kids should not be forced to take that kind of responsibility! It's ''not'' their own fault if they get into a situation that hurts them, not matter how good an idea it seemed at the time. And also, what if someone is technically adult and technically informed, but has a mental handicap that makes them unfit to make the decision?

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While both constructs are useful, they are far from waterproof. What if someone is an adult but not informed? Scams are not cool! Or what if someone who's not adult is "informed" and consents to something that is [[NotSafeForWork Not Safe For Kids]] and later regrets it? One of the main points of having age limits is that kids should not be forced to take that kind of responsibility! It's ''not'' their own fault if they get into a situation that hurts them, not no matter how good an idea it seemed at the time. And also, what if someone is technically adult and technically informed, but has a mental handicap that makes them unfit to make the decision?
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And then there’s the issue of potentially hazardous body modifications often performed on children (or babies) for reasons that don’t involve immediate need for medical attention, often as a traditional rite of passage; the most notable among these in the West is circumcision, a procedure the opponents of which usually bring up consent as an argument. [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment And that is all we are going to say on the matter.]]
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We don't think that children and mentally handicapped people can consent to everything. And with adults, we still have issues about them knowing what they are getting into and not getting exploited. See Consenting Adults and Informed Consent below.

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We don't think that consensus requires equality between the parties in terms of power and responsibility, which is why children and the mentally handicapped people can consent to everything.disabled are considered incapable of consenting with able adults. And with adults, we still have issues about them knowing what they are getting into and not getting exploited. See Consenting Adults and Informed Consent below.

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