History Trivia / PokemonRedandBlue

** ''LetsPlay/TwitchPlaysPokemon'', a crowdsourced Let's Play that takes inputs from an IRC channel. Despite the chaotic nature of it, the fans have gathered six badges and one legendary Pokémon, and are still going strong.

**** Of note, we now know that Ho-oh was ''not'' among these original 39 species (although Lugia ''was'); it's generally accepted that, because Gold and Silver were being developed concurrently with the anime, it was thrown in as a DevelopmentGag.

** ''LetsPlay/TwitchPlaysPokemon'', a crowdsourced Let's Play that takes inputs from the channel's respective chat room. Despite the chaotic nature of it, the fans have gathered six badges and one legendary Pokémon, and are still going strong.

* LetsPlay: A mostly text-based one can be found [[http://dragon-quill.blogspot.com/search/label/Pokemon%20Blue here.]]

**** Of note, we now know that Ho-oh was ''not'' among these original 39 species (although Lugia ''was') so it's unclear currently if Game Freak even designed it or the Anime artists did and they decided to ThrowItIn.

**** Of note, we now know that Ho-oh was ''not'' among these original 39 species (although Lugia ''was.'' ) so it's unclear currently if Game Freak even designed it or the Anime artists did and they went ThrowItIn.

** Professor Oak was originally meant to be the TrueFinalBoss!

** The original boss for Lavender Town was not Marowak, but instead, was a [[EverythingsDeaderWithZombies zombie trainer]] named Buried Alive. If you lost, you got a game over and a disturbing image.

** Rumors have been circulating that some cartridges in Japan contained a [[BrownNote high pitch frequency]] within the Lavender Town Music that caused some kids to experience headaches to more drastic things such as suicide.

** The Truck in Vermilion City which was said to house Mew.

** Apparently, [[http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=78267 the first Generation was originally supposed to have 190 Pokémon.]] Thirty-nine of them were removed and became the glitch Pokémon [[TheMissingno Missingno.]] What little is left of them is still accessible via hacking or glitching, but they are glitchy, unrecognizable and some of them even potentially {{Game Breaking Bug}}s.
*** According to [[TheWikiRule Bulbapedia]], all 39 of the cut Pokémon would later end up in ''VideoGame/PokemonGoldAndSilver''. The list contained [[{{Badass}} Scizor and Tyranitar]], who were likely cut so there would be time to properly implement [[ExtraOreDinary Steel]] and [[CombatPragmatist Dark]]-types.

** This is also why Mewtwo is in the Pokedex before Mew. There originally wasn't enough space for Mew, but after removing the debug tools, there was. Had there been enough room it is conceivable that Mew would have been placed before Mewtwo in the Pokedex.
*** Some also say that Venomoth and Butterfree were inserted into the wrong spaces.

** It is more likely that the 39 Pokemon were allocated spaces, but never actually programmed into the game as there never would have been enough space. Missingno. and other glitch Pokemon resulted as a result of the game trying to load Pokemon who weren't there. The original Pokemon order does not match the one in the Pokedex at all - it starts with Rhydon, the first designed. So it's entirely conceivable that the programmers discussed this with the creators and they discussed which ones not to include.

** Interestingly enough, Ho-Oh was not in this. A trainer in the game mentions [[{{VideoGame/PokemonBlackAndWhite}} Munna]].[[note]]She says, "The POKéMON here [Route 10] are so chunky! There should be a pink one with a floral pattern!"[[/note]]

* DummiedOut: The games were originally planned to have 190 Pokémon. This can still be seen in the code, as there are index numbers for all 190 Pokémon. If the Pokémon that do not exist in the final version are transferred over to Generation II, they are revealed to be Pokémon like Scizor and Ho-oh, explaining the latter's EarlyBirdCameo in the anime, and the lack of [[SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute Suspiciously Similar Substitutes]] in Generation II, as many of them were designed for the first games[[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/List_of_Pok%C3%A9mon_by_index_number_%28Generation_I%29]].

* SleeperHit: Nintendo of Japan actually said ItWillNeverCatchOn while releasing Japanese ''Red and Green'' and writing it off as a loss. It didn't top the sales charts, but it kept ''selling steady'' in a market where 80% of sales are made in the first two weeks. Nintendo made a few tweaks, released [[UpdatedRerelease Japanese Blue]] and got their cash cow.

** The Truck in Vermilion City which was said to house Mew, the destination of The SS Anne which was said to return after beating the Elite Four so many times.

* BreakthroughHit: Game Freak made a few games before this like ''VideoGame/MendelPlace'' and ''Pulseman'', but didn't achieve success until ''Red and Blue''.

* WhatCouldHaveBeen: There were many changes, but most notably, there once was a [[http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/7/70/Kensugiart3.png female protagonist]]. She was excluded presumably due to a lack of space for her data and reused for ''[=FireRed=]''/''[=LeafGreen=]'' as "[[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Leaf_%28game%29 Leaf]]".
** Her design was used for Blue (known as Green in the US) in the Pokémon manga Manga/PokemonSpecial.

** Her design was used for Blue (known as Green in the US) in the Pokemon manga PokemonSpecial.
* UrbanLegendOfZelda: There's a rumor that's been floating around since these games came out about a hacked version known as Pokmon Black (not to be confused with ''PokemonBlackAndWhite''), found on a black-painted cartridge. The player is given a Pokemon known as 'Ghost' instead of one of the starters, and it cannot be put into the PC. It attacks opponents with Curse, and if you return to an area after beating a trainer, it's indicated they died-there's a tombstone present. After beating the game, the player character's Pokemon are all gone and the sprite is swapped for an old man sprite. Going back to Pallet Town results in the character being attacked by the spirits of the Pokemon they killed on their way to beating the game, with the character using Struggle until they die. It existance is questioned, but a ROM like this does exist online. [[http://www.gameinformer.com/blogs/members/b/omegaspartan08_blog/archive/2010/07/30/pok-233-mon-black-a-hacked-game-of-death.aspx Article here]]

** The Truck in Vermilion City which was said to house Mew, the destination of The SS Anne which was said to return after beating the Elite Four so many times.

!!Tropes used in ''Red'' and ''Blue'':

* There's a rumor that's been floating around since these games came out about a hacked version known as Pokmon Black (not to be confused with ''PokemonBlackAndWhite''), found on a black-painted cartridge. The player is given a Pokemon known as 'Ghost' instead of one of the starters, and it cannot be put into the PC. It attacks opponents with Curse, and if you return to an area after beating a trainer, it's indicated they died-there's a tombstone present. After beating the game, the player character's Pokemon are all gone and the sprite is swapped for an old man sprite. Going back to Pallet Town results in the character being attacked by the spirits of the Pokemon they killed on their way to beating the game, with the character using Struggle until they die. It existance is questioned, but a ROM like this does exist online. [[http://www.gameinformer.com/blogs/members/b/omegaspartan08_blog/archive/2010/07/30/pok-233-mon-black-a-hacked-game-of-death.aspx Article here]]

* There's a rumor that's been floating around since these games came out about a hacked version known as Pokmon Black (not to be confused with ''PokemonBlackAndWhite''), found on a black-painted cartridge. The player is given a Pokemon known as 'Ghost' instead of one of the starters, and it cannot be put into the PC. It attacks opponents with Curse, and if you return to an area after beating a trainer, it's indicated they died-there's a tombstone present. After beating the game, the player character's Pokemon are all gone and the sprite is swapped for an old man sprite. Going back to Pallet Town results in the character being attacked by the spirits of the Pokemon they killed on their way to beating the game, with the character using Struggle until they die. It existance is questioned, but a ROM like this does exist online. The rumor is apparently HighOctaneNightmareFuel for some. [[http://www.gameinformer.com/blogs/members/b/omegaspartan08_blog/archive/2010/07/30/pok-233-mon-black-a-hacked-game-of-death.aspx Article here]]

** Her design was used for Blue (known as Green in the US) in the Pokemon manga PokemonSpecial.

* WhatCouldHaveBeen: There were many changes, but most notably, there once was a [[http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/7/70/Kensugiart3.png female protagonist]]. She was excluded presumably due to a lack of space for her data and reused for ''[=FireRed=]''/''[=LeafGreen=]'' as "[[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Leaf_%28game%29 Leaf]]".