History Trivia / PokemonGoldAndSilver

8th Jun '17 12:08:20 PM CherryLotus
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* CowboyBebopAtHisComputer: For months prior to the official release of the game promotional materials referred to the Pokémon Marill as "Pikablu" likely due to its mouse-like appearance, the zig-zag tail that resembled Pikachu's lightning bolt tail and... well, [[ShapedLikeItself the fact that it was blue]]. Marill was ''never'' officially referred to by this name at any point, not even during the planning stages. Despite this the misnaming was so prevalent that even Topps used it in the ''Anime/PokemonTheFirstMovie'' [[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Pok%C3%A9mon_the_First_Movie_Trading_Cards Trading Cards]].

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* CowboyBebopAtHisComputer: For months prior to the official release of the game promotional materials referred to the Pokémon Marill as "Pikablu" likely due to its mouse-like appearance, the zig-zag tail that resembled Pikachu's lightning bolt tail and... well, [[ShapedLikeItself the fact that it was blue]]. Marill was ''never'' officially referred to by this name at any point, not even during the planning stages. Despite this the misnaming was so prevalent that even Topps used it in the ''Anime/PokemonTheFirstMovie'' [[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Pok%C3%A9mon_the_First_Movie_Trading_Cards net/wiki/Pokemon_the_First_Movie_Trading_Cards Trading Cards]].
19th May '17 6:42:57 PM Pichu-kun
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** Silver (the Rival, not the game) is sometimes jokingly referred to as [[MyNameIsQuestionMarks ???]].

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** Silver (the Rival, rival, not the game) is sometimes jokingly referred to as [[MyNameIsQuestionMarks ???]].



** A scrapped fire starter, Honoguma, is sometimes jokingly called "Pikaflare", just like Marill is called "Pikablu", due to its resemblance to Pikachu.
** The names of Kris (the female protagonist of ''Crystal'') and Silver (the rival) have never been confirmed. Kris' name comes from the English box-art while Silver's came from using the same ThemeNaming as Blue Oak.



** [[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/List_of_unused_Pok%C3%A9mon_and_character_designs#Kurusu The original Water and Fire starters were completely different creatures.]]

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** [[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/List_of_unused_Pok%C3%A9mon_and_character_designs#Kurusu The original Water and Fire starters were completely different creatures.]]]] The fire starter was a rodent-looking Pokemon called Honoguma instead of Cyndaquil and the water-type was a seal-looking CartoonCreature named Kurusu instead of Totodile. Happa was a very early version of Chikorita with a less refined design.



** A 1997 playable demo featured completely different starters, different Japanese names for the Pokemon, and a vastly different overworld. As mentioned, it also had the starting town as named "Silent Hills". Some of the name changes were: "Eleking" for Elekiburu (Elekid), "Puko" for Harisen (Qwilfish), "Sunny" for Kimiwari (Sunflora), "Painter" for Doburu (Smeargle), "Yoroidor" for Eamudo (Skarmory), "Buku" for Otzahi (Sentret), and "Animon" for Unown.
** Game Freak posted a unused character design for Kris once. The screencap was small but details could be deciphered.

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** A 1997 playable Space World demo featured completely different starters, starters (the above-mentioned ones), different Japanese names for the Pokemon, and a vastly different overworld. As mentioned, it It also had the starting town as named "Silent Hills". Some of the name changes were: "Eleking" for Elekiburu (Elekid), Elekid, "Puko" for Harisen Harysen (Qwilfish), "Sunny" for Kimiwari Kimawari (Sunflora), "Painter" for Doburu Doble (Smeargle), "Yoroidor" for Eamudo Airmd (Skarmory), "Buku" for Otzahi Otachi (Sentret), and "Animon" for Unown.
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** Game Freak posted a unused character design for Kris once. The screencap was small but details could be deciphered. Kris still had pigtails but they were styled differently and her hair seemed to be black, not blue.
19th May '17 6:30:06 PM Pichu-kun
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** The three games are collectively referred to as [=GSC=] and the Metal Generation.

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** The three games are collectively referred to as [=GSC=] ''[=GSC=]'' and the Metal Generation.


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** Very early info mentioned that Ethan had a brother three years his senior that gave him a hand-me-down computer that he likes to tinker with. In the final versions of ''Gold and Silver'', Ethan is an only child, computers aren't important to the plot, and he has no known personality traits. Contrary to popular belief, the brother was not Red. Incorrect translations simply assumed it was Red.
** Satoshi Tajiri mentioned several unused plot details in an early 1997 interview. He said that the story starts when the protagonist learns of a boy in Kanto who completed his Pokedex, implying that Red was an important character and that the story took place directly after the original games. Satoshi also implied that Giovanni would return, when in the final product he is absent and he didn't return until an event for the remake.
** A 1997 playable demo featured completely different starters, different Japanese names for the Pokemon, and a vastly different overworld. As mentioned, it also had the starting town as named "Silent Hills". Some of the name changes were: "Eleking" for Elekiburu (Elekid), "Puko" for Harisen (Qwilfish), "Sunny" for Kimiwari (Sunflora), "Painter" for Doburu (Smeargle), "Yoroidor" for Eamudo (Skarmory), "Buku" for Otzahi (Sentret), and "Animon" for Unown.
** Game Freak posted a unused character design for Kris once. The screencap was small but details could be deciphered.
4th May '17 1:51:42 PM bowserbros
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** If one manages to force-boot ''Crystal'' on an original Game Boy shows a somewhat functioning version of the game's intro and title screen ("somewhat" being the operative word; both the intro and title screen feature a number of graphical glitches due to certain sprites being programmed to be stored in areas of the Game Boy Color's greater VRAM that the Game Boy lacks). Force-booting the cartridge on a Super Game Boy additionally brings up the border for ''Gold'' and an orange-beige screen tint. Trying to play the game results in it crashing when it tries to load the overworld, however. Nevertheless, this appears to indicate that Game Boy compatibility was planned for ''Crystal'', but was dropped when it turned out to be too much for the original handheld to, um, [[JustForPun handle]].

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** If one manages to force-boot Forcing ''Crystal'' to boot up on an original Game Boy shows a somewhat functioning version of the game's intro and title screen ("somewhat" being the operative word; both the intro and title screen feature a number of graphical glitches due to certain sprites being programmed to be stored in areas of the Game Boy Color's greater VRAM that the Game Boy lacks). Force-booting the cartridge on a Super Game Boy additionally brings up the border for ''Gold'' and an orange-beige screen tint. Trying to play the game results in it crashing when it tries to load the overworld, however. Nevertheless, this appears to indicate that Game Boy compatibility was planned for ''Crystal'', but was dropped when it turned out to be too much for the original handheld to, um, [[JustForPun handle]].
4th May '17 1:49:06 PM bowserbros
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** If one manages to force-boot ''Crystal'' on an original Game Boy shows a somewhat functioning version of the game's intro and title screen ("somewhat" being the operative word; both the intro and title screen feature a number of graphical glitches due to certain sprites being programmed to be stored in areas of the Game Boy Color's greater VRAM that the Game Boy lacks). Force-booting the cartridge on a Super Game Boy additionally brings up the border for ''Gold'' and an orange-beige screen tint. Trying to play the game results in it crashing when it tries to load the overworld, however. Nevertheless, this appears to indicate that Game Boy compatibility was planned for ''Crystal'', but was dropped when it turned out to be too much for the original handheld to, um, [[JusForPun handle]].

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** If one manages to force-boot ''Crystal'' on an original Game Boy shows a somewhat functioning version of the game's intro and title screen ("somewhat" being the operative word; both the intro and title screen feature a number of graphical glitches due to certain sprites being programmed to be stored in areas of the Game Boy Color's greater VRAM that the Game Boy lacks). Force-booting the cartridge on a Super Game Boy additionally brings up the border for ''Gold'' and an orange-beige screen tint. Trying to play the game results in it crashing when it tries to load the overworld, however. Nevertheless, this appears to indicate that Game Boy compatibility was planned for ''Crystal'', but was dropped when it turned out to be too much for the original handheld to, um, [[JusForPun handle]].[[JustForPun handle]].
** Similarly to the above, the Korean versions of ''Gold & Silver'', which are Game Boy Color-exclusive can also be force-booted on a Game Boy, though things tend to go haywire as soon as you get past the title screen due to the GBC's extra VRAM being used to store the rather large Hangul alphabet. The game is still playable, however, albeit in a very garbled state with occasional crashes; this seems to indicate that, as with the case of ''Crystal'', Game Boy compatibility was planned for the Korean ''Gold & Silver'' but was dropped due to the Hangul alphabet being too big to fit on a Game Boy-compatible cartridge.
4th May '17 1:37:09 PM bowserbros
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** The game was originally developed for the original UsefulNotes/GameBoy, with UsefulNotes/SuperGameBoy compatibility in the same vein as ''VideoGame/PokemonRedAndBlue'', and was slated for release at the end of 1997. However, the games ended up being delayed to 1999, allowing Game Freak to take advantage of the then-new UsefulNotes/GameBoyColor by making the game a GB-compatible GBC game; Super Game Boy compatibility did manage to remain, though this feature was excised from ''Crystal'', which needed the extra VRAM of GBC-only cartridges to store new features such as the animated Pokémon sprites.

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** The game was originally developed for the original UsefulNotes/GameBoy, with UsefulNotes/SuperGameBoy compatibility in the same vein as ''VideoGame/PokemonRedAndBlue'', and was slated for release at the end of 1997. However, the games game ended up being delayed to 1999, allowing Game Freak to take advantage of the then-new UsefulNotes/GameBoyColor by making the game ''Gold & Silver'' a GB-compatible Game Boy-compatible GBC game; title; Super Game Boy compatibility did manage to remain, though this feature was excised from ''Crystal'', which needed the extra VRAM of GBC-only cartridges to store new features such as the animated Pokémon sprites.sprites.
** If one manages to force-boot ''Crystal'' on an original Game Boy shows a somewhat functioning version of the game's intro and title screen ("somewhat" being the operative word; both the intro and title screen feature a number of graphical glitches due to certain sprites being programmed to be stored in areas of the Game Boy Color's greater VRAM that the Game Boy lacks). Force-booting the cartridge on a Super Game Boy additionally brings up the border for ''Gold'' and an orange-beige screen tint. Trying to play the game results in it crashing when it tries to load the overworld, however. Nevertheless, this appears to indicate that Game Boy compatibility was planned for ''Crystal'', but was dropped when it turned out to be too much for the original handheld to, um, [[JusForPun handle]].
4th May '17 1:17:57 PM bowserbros
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** The game was originally developed for the original UsefulNotes/GameBoy, with UsefulNotes/SuperGameBoy compatibility in the same vein as ''VideoGame/PokemonRedAndBlue'', and was slated for release at the end of 1997. However, the games ended up being delayed to 1999, allowing Game Freak to take advantage of the then-new UsefulNotes/GameBoyColor by making the game a GB-compatible GBC game; Super Game Boy compatibility did manage to remain, though this feature was excised from ''Crystal'', which needed the extra VRAM of GBC-only cartridges to store new features such as the animated Pokémon sprites.
15th Mar '17 7:52:25 AM PDL
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** There's leftover code that allowed the player to name their mother. What this would have served isn't known, but this leftover data may have been used for the catching tutorial (which is used by [[WhoNamesTheirKidDude Dude]]). Naming your mother would show up in ''VideoGame/Mother3'' released several years later.
28th Oct '16 3:14:43 AM Green_lantern40
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** [[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:MicroGroup_Game_Review_Volume_14.jpg An image]] from the magazine ''[=MicroGroup=] Game Review'' shows unused designs for 2 Pokémon; a turtle that resembles Tirtouga from ''VideoGame/PokemonBlackAndWhite'' and what can only be described as a Hitmontop and Clefairy hybrid. It also shows that Tyranitar was going to be brown instead of green.

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** [[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:MicroGroup_Game_Review_Volume_14.jpg An image]] from the magazine ''[=MicroGroup=] Game Review'' shows unused designs for 2 Pokémon; a turtle that resembles Tirtouga from ''VideoGame/PokemonBlackAndWhite'' and what can only be described as a Hitmontop and Clefairy hybrid.hybrid (with elements of the later Pokémon [[VideoGame/PokemonRubyAndSapphire Spoink]]). It also shows that Tyranitar was going to be brown instead of green.
23rd Oct '16 12:01:42 PM Karxrida
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* FranchiseKiller: Downplayed for ''Crystal''. It didn't sell as well as ''Gold'' and ''Silver'' did, which has been cited by some as a factor for the reboot that took place with Gen III, and today Junichi Masuda considers it an OldShame, to the point where the Gen IV remakes weren't released until near the end of Gen IV, by which point Gen V had already been announced, and even in Gen VI, which was full of nostalgia, the games and their Pokémon were glossed over in favor of ''Red/Blue'' and ''Ruby/Sapphire'' and their Pokémon, which says something about how badly ''Crystal'' tainted Gen II (though Gen II's filler-heavy anime counterpart may not have helped, either).
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