History Trivia / PokemonGoldAndSilver

29th Jan '18 7:34:01 AM Monolaf317
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** [[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/List_of_unused_Pok%C3%A9mon_and_character_designs#Kurusu The original Water and Fire starters were completely different creatures.]] The Fire starter was a rodent-looking Pokemon called Honoguma instead of Cyndaquil and the Water-type was a seal-looking CartoonCreature named Kurusu instead of Totodile. Happa was a very early version of Chikorita with a less refined design.

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** [[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/List_of_unused_Pok%C3%A9mon_and_character_designs#Kurusu net/wiki/List_of_unused_Pokémon_and_character_designs#Kurusu The original Water and Fire starters were completely different creatures.]] The Fire starter was a rodent-looking Pokemon called Honoguma instead of Cyndaquil and the Water-type was a seal-looking CartoonCreature named Kurusu instead of Totodile. Happa was a very early version of Chikorita with a less refined design.
22nd Jan '18 5:33:17 PM Karxrida
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** Notably, They originally wouldn't have been there in the first place. Creator/SatoruIwata managed to compress the map down enough to fit what IS accessible, despite the space issues.
22nd Jan '18 5:30:00 PM Karxrida
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** [[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:MicroGroup_Game_Review_Volume_14.jpg An image]] from the magazine ''[=MicroGroup=] Game Review'' shows unused designs for 2 Pokémon; a turtle that resembles Tirtouga from ''VideoGame/PokemonBlackAndWhite'' and what can only be described as a Hitmontop and Clefairy hybrid (with elements of the later Pokémon [[VideoGame/PokemonRubyAndSapphire Spoink]]). It also shows that Tyranitar was going to be brown instead of green.
** [[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/List_of_unused_Pok%C3%A9mon_and_character_designs#Kurusu The original Water and Fire starters were completely different creatures.]] The fire starter was a rodent-looking Pokemon called Honoguma instead of Cyndaquil and the water-type was a seal-looking CartoonCreature named Kurusu instead of Totodile. Happa was a very early version of Chikorita with a less refined design.

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** [[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:MicroGroup_Game_Review_Volume_14.jpg An image]] from the magazine ''[=MicroGroup=] Game Review'' shows unused designs for 2 Pokémon; a turtle that resembles Tirtouga from ''VideoGame/PokemonBlackAndWhite'' and what can only be described as a Hitmontop and Clefairy hybrid (with elements of the later Pokémon [[VideoGame/PokemonRubyAndSapphire Spoink]]). It also shows that Tyranitar Tyranitar's normal coloration was going to be brown instead of green.
** [[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/List_of_unused_Pok%C3%A9mon_and_character_designs#Kurusu The original Water and Fire starters were completely different creatures.]] The fire Fire starter was a rodent-looking Pokemon called Honoguma instead of Cyndaquil and the water-type Water-type was a seal-looking CartoonCreature named Kurusu instead of Totodile. Happa was a very early version of Chikorita with a less refined design.



* WhatCouldHaveBeen: An unused [=PokéGear=] icon that resembles Kris can be found in the data, implying she might have been considered to appear in some capacity at one point.

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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: An unused [=PokéGear=] icon that resembles Kris can be found in the data, implying she might have been considered to appear in some capacity at one point.point.
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7th Dec '17 7:07:23 AM Gouken20xx
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** Notably, They originally wouldn't have been there in the first place. Creator/SatoruIwata managed to compress the map down enough to fit what IS accessible, despite the space issues.
8th Nov '17 7:35:53 AM chasemaddigan
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* TributeToFido: Hoothoot [[http://www.rigelatin.net/copycat/media/print/np134.php was inspired]] by a pet bird Ken Sugimori had as a child who would always stand on one leg.
29th Jul '17 7:14:43 AM InsertCleverNameHere
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** There was originally going to be a location called "Haunted House", as evidenced by an unused location name in the Japanese ROM. The idea may have been revisited with the Old Chateau in ''VideoGame/PokemonDiamondAndPearl'', much like the Sweet Honey talked about above.
8th Jun '17 12:08:20 PM CherryLotus
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* CowboyBebopAtHisComputer: For months prior to the official release of the game promotional materials referred to the Pokémon Marill as "Pikablu" likely due to its mouse-like appearance, the zig-zag tail that resembled Pikachu's lightning bolt tail and... well, [[ShapedLikeItself the fact that it was blue]]. Marill was ''never'' officially referred to by this name at any point, not even during the planning stages. Despite this the misnaming was so prevalent that even Topps used it in the ''Anime/PokemonTheFirstMovie'' [[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Pok%C3%A9mon_the_First_Movie_Trading_Cards Trading Cards]].

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* CowboyBebopAtHisComputer: For months prior to the official release of the game promotional materials referred to the Pokémon Marill as "Pikablu" likely due to its mouse-like appearance, the zig-zag tail that resembled Pikachu's lightning bolt tail and... well, [[ShapedLikeItself the fact that it was blue]]. Marill was ''never'' officially referred to by this name at any point, not even during the planning stages. Despite this the misnaming was so prevalent that even Topps used it in the ''Anime/PokemonTheFirstMovie'' [[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Pok%C3%A9mon_the_First_Movie_Trading_Cards net/wiki/Pokemon_the_First_Movie_Trading_Cards Trading Cards]].
19th May '17 6:42:57 PM Pichu-kun
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** Silver (the Rival, not the game) is sometimes jokingly referred to as [[MyNameIsQuestionMarks ???]].

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** Silver (the Rival, rival, not the game) is sometimes jokingly referred to as [[MyNameIsQuestionMarks ???]].



** A scrapped fire starter, Honoguma, is sometimes jokingly called "Pikaflare", just like Marill is called "Pikablu", due to its resemblance to Pikachu.
** The names of Kris (the female protagonist of ''Crystal'') and Silver (the rival) have never been confirmed. Kris' name comes from the English box-art while Silver's came from using the same ThemeNaming as Blue Oak.



** [[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/List_of_unused_Pok%C3%A9mon_and_character_designs#Kurusu The original Water and Fire starters were completely different creatures.]]

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** [[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/List_of_unused_Pok%C3%A9mon_and_character_designs#Kurusu The original Water and Fire starters were completely different creatures.]]]] The fire starter was a rodent-looking Pokemon called Honoguma instead of Cyndaquil and the water-type was a seal-looking CartoonCreature named Kurusu instead of Totodile. Happa was a very early version of Chikorita with a less refined design.



** A 1997 playable demo featured completely different starters, different Japanese names for the Pokemon, and a vastly different overworld. As mentioned, it also had the starting town as named "Silent Hills". Some of the name changes were: "Eleking" for Elekiburu (Elekid), "Puko" for Harisen (Qwilfish), "Sunny" for Kimiwari (Sunflora), "Painter" for Doburu (Smeargle), "Yoroidor" for Eamudo (Skarmory), "Buku" for Otzahi (Sentret), and "Animon" for Unown.
** Game Freak posted a unused character design for Kris once. The screencap was small but details could be deciphered.

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** A 1997 playable Space World demo featured completely different starters, starters (the above-mentioned ones), different Japanese names for the Pokemon, and a vastly different overworld. As mentioned, it It also had the starting town as named "Silent Hills". Some of the name changes were: "Eleking" for Elekiburu (Elekid), Elekid, "Puko" for Harisen Harysen (Qwilfish), "Sunny" for Kimiwari Kimawari (Sunflora), "Painter" for Doburu Doble (Smeargle), "Yoroidor" for Eamudo Airmd (Skarmory), "Buku" for Otzahi Otachi (Sentret), and "Animon" for Unown.
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** Game Freak posted a unused character design for Kris once. The screencap was small but details could be deciphered. Kris still had pigtails but they were styled differently and her hair seemed to be black, not blue.
19th May '17 6:30:06 PM Pichu-kun
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** The three games are collectively referred to as [=GSC=] and the Metal Generation.

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** The three games are collectively referred to as [=GSC=] ''[=GSC=]'' and the Metal Generation.


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** Very early info mentioned that Ethan had a brother three years his senior that gave him a hand-me-down computer that he likes to tinker with. In the final versions of ''Gold and Silver'', Ethan is an only child, computers aren't important to the plot, and he has no known personality traits. Contrary to popular belief, the brother was not Red. Incorrect translations simply assumed it was Red.
** Satoshi Tajiri mentioned several unused plot details in an early 1997 interview. He said that the story starts when the protagonist learns of a boy in Kanto who completed his Pokedex, implying that Red was an important character and that the story took place directly after the original games. Satoshi also implied that Giovanni would return, when in the final product he is absent and he didn't return until an event for the remake.
** A 1997 playable demo featured completely different starters, different Japanese names for the Pokemon, and a vastly different overworld. As mentioned, it also had the starting town as named "Silent Hills". Some of the name changes were: "Eleking" for Elekiburu (Elekid), "Puko" for Harisen (Qwilfish), "Sunny" for Kimiwari (Sunflora), "Painter" for Doburu (Smeargle), "Yoroidor" for Eamudo (Skarmory), "Buku" for Otzahi (Sentret), and "Animon" for Unown.
** Game Freak posted a unused character design for Kris once. The screencap was small but details could be deciphered.
4th May '17 1:51:42 PM bowserbros
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** If one manages to force-boot ''Crystal'' on an original Game Boy shows a somewhat functioning version of the game's intro and title screen ("somewhat" being the operative word; both the intro and title screen feature a number of graphical glitches due to certain sprites being programmed to be stored in areas of the Game Boy Color's greater VRAM that the Game Boy lacks). Force-booting the cartridge on a Super Game Boy additionally brings up the border for ''Gold'' and an orange-beige screen tint. Trying to play the game results in it crashing when it tries to load the overworld, however. Nevertheless, this appears to indicate that Game Boy compatibility was planned for ''Crystal'', but was dropped when it turned out to be too much for the original handheld to, um, [[JustForPun handle]].

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** If one manages to force-boot Forcing ''Crystal'' to boot up on an original Game Boy shows a somewhat functioning version of the game's intro and title screen ("somewhat" being the operative word; both the intro and title screen feature a number of graphical glitches due to certain sprites being programmed to be stored in areas of the Game Boy Color's greater VRAM that the Game Boy lacks). Force-booting the cartridge on a Super Game Boy additionally brings up the border for ''Gold'' and an orange-beige screen tint. Trying to play the game results in it crashing when it tries to load the overworld, however. Nevertheless, this appears to indicate that Game Boy compatibility was planned for ''Crystal'', but was dropped when it turned out to be too much for the original handheld to, um, [[JustForPun handle]].
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