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* BreakthroughHit: The first opening theme, 'oath sign' pretty much kickstarted [=LiSA's=] career as a solo artist, and she would later find further success with ''LightNovel/SwordArtOnline'', ''LightNovel/TheIrregularAtMagicHighSchool'', ''Manga/MyHeroAcademia'' and ''Manga/DemonSlayerKimetsuNoYaiba''.

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* BreakthroughHit: The first opening theme, 'oath sign' pretty much kickstarted [=LiSA's=] career as a solo artist, and she would later find further success with ''LightNovel/SwordArtOnline'', ''LightNovel/TheIrregularAtMagicHighSchool'', ''Literature/SwordArtOnline'', ''Literature/TheIrregularAtMagicHighSchool'', ''Manga/MyHeroAcademia'' and ''Manga/DemonSlayerKimetsuNoYaiba''.



** Although, those who didn't agree with the above theory usually assumed the man to be Eumenes anyway, for various reasons[[note]]The historical Eumenes was from Thrace (modern-day Turkey) and is suspected to have Scythian ancestry; Scythians were known for their long black hair, whereas the Greeks would usually cut it short. Eumenes also began as Alexander's secretary rather than as a warrior or soldier, which would explain the character's outfit of a robe rather than armor. Coincidentally, Eumenes was known for his loyalty to Alexander and his lineage, a trait many associate with Waver.[[/note]]. Later series like the ''Sensha Otoko'' parody manga, ''LightNovel/LordElMelloiIICaseFiles'' and ''VideoGame/FateGrandOrder'' would later imply it heavily before he was officially confirmed as such.

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** Although, those who didn't agree with the above theory usually assumed the man to be Eumenes anyway, for various reasons[[note]]The historical Eumenes was from Thrace (modern-day Turkey) and is suspected to have Scythian ancestry; Scythians were known for their long black hair, whereas the Greeks would usually cut it short. Eumenes also began as Alexander's secretary rather than as a warrior or soldier, which would explain the character's outfit of a robe rather than armor. Coincidentally, Eumenes was known for his loyalty to Alexander and his lineage, a trait many associate with Waver.[[/note]]. Later series like the ''Sensha Otoko'' parody manga, ''LightNovel/LordElMelloiIICaseFiles'' ''Literature/LordElMelloiIICaseFiles'' and ''VideoGame/FateGrandOrder'' would later imply it heavily before he was officially confirmed as such.
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** There would've been a subplot where one of Assassin's personalities, a little girl, got separated from the others and forgot her identity. After mistaking her for one of Caster and Ryuunosuke's kidnapped victims, Waver takes her in. Rider knows what she really is, but keeps quiet out of respect for Waver's chivalry. Waver and the girl bond, but when Kotomine uses a Command Spell to make all the Assassins attack Rider's party, she regains her memory and joins the attack. Waver is devastated by her death, but toughens up and moves on, as the subplot was meant to be a step in his growing up.

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** There would've been a subplot where one of Assassin's personalities, a little girl, got separated from the others and forgot her identity. After mistaking her for one of Caster and Ryuunosuke's kidnapped victims, Waver takes her in. Rider knows what she really is, but keeps quiet out of respect for Waver's chivalry. Waver and the girl bond, but when Kotomine uses a Command Spell to make all the Assassins attack Rider's party, Feast of Kings, she regains her memory and joins the attack. Waver is devastated by her death, but toughens up and moves on, as the subplot was meant to be a step in his growing up. Gen Urobuchi cancelled the subplot because he thought it gave too much focus on Waver, and would confuse the reader about who the real main character is.



** Before Gilles de Rais was chosen as Caster, Gen Orobuchi wanted to use a Chinese Xian. The reason he didn't was because Nasu ruled that Eastern heroes can't be summoned in Fuyuki's system ([[spoiler:fake]] Assassin in ''stay night'' was explicitly a case of the rules being broken by Caster).

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** Before Gilles de Rais was chosen as Caster, Gen Orobuchi Urobuchi wanted to use a Chinese Xian. The reason he didn't was because Nasu ruled that Eastern heroes can't be summoned in Fuyuki's system ([[spoiler:fake]] Assassin in ''stay night'' was explicitly a case of the rules being broken by Caster).
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* ActorAllusion: Rider, like another Creator/AkioOtsuka role, is [[Franchise/MetalGear a leader of overwhelming charisma, whose men are fanatically loyal to him and his vision for the world, and who is likely to be misunderstood by people who don't know him]].



* CastingGag: A couple to the Studio Deen dub.
** Creator/KirkThornton who voiced Kiritsugu Emiya in the original Deen dub, returns as Kiritsugu's father Norikata Emiya.
** Creator/DougErholtz who played Shiji Matou, once again plays a SmugSnake albeit a better Magus.
** Creator/KarenStrassman who played Rider/Medusa once again plays a woman who despises Doug Erholtz's character, though here they're engaged instead of being Master and Servant.
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* RelationshipVoiceActor:
** In Japanese:
*** Creator/MiyuIrino (young Kiritsugu) previously voiced a role with Creator/AyahiTakagaki (Shirley), Creator/IsshinChiba (Norikata), Creator/AkenoWatanabe (Natalia) and Creator/MegumiToyoguchi (Sola-Ui) in the 2009 TV adaptation of ''VisualNovel/PhantomOfInferno'', Gen Urobuchi and Nitro+'s first work.
*** [[Creator/MiyuIrino Young Kiritsugu]], [[Creator/AkioOtsuka Rider]], [[Creator/SatoshiTsuruoka Caster]] and [[Creator/AkiraIshida Ryuunosuke]] are [[Webcomic/MobPsycho100 Ritsu, Dimple, Muraki and Mogami]].
*** [[Creator/TakumiYamazaki Kayneth]] and [[Creator/HikaruMidorikawa Lancer]] played allies Dr. West and Master Therion, respectively, in ''VisualNovel/{{Demonbane}}'', a previous {{Creator/Nitroplus}} work.
*** [[Creator/SayakaOhara Irisviel]], [[Creator/MikiIto Taiga]], [[Creator/RikiyaKoyama Kiritsugu]], [[Creator/MasashiHirose Risei]] and [[Creator/AyakoKawasumi Saber]] are [[VisualNovel/UminekoWhenTheyCry Beatrice, Eva, Rudolf, Hideyoshi and Lion.]]
** In English:
*** [[Creator/PatrickSeitz Assassin]], [[Creator/DavidVincent Gilgamesh]], [[Creator/JamiesonPrice Rider]], [[Creator/CristinaValenzuela Sakura]], [[Creator/MelaLee Rin]], [[Creator/GrantGeorge Lancer]] and [[Creator/DougErholtz Kayneth]] were [[VideoGame/BlazBlue Ragna the Bloodegde, Jin Kisaragi, Iron Tager, Noel Vermilion, Rachel Alucard, Kagura Mutsuki and Hazama]].
*** [[Creator/CristinaValenzuela Sakura]], [[Creator/MelaLee Rin]], [[Creator/DavidVincent Gilgamesh]], [[Creator/StephanieSheh Illyasviel]] and [[Creator/MichelleRuff Aoi]] were [[VideoGame/{{Neptunia}} Compa, 5pb, Brave the Hard, Histoire and NISA]].
*** [[Creator/CrispinFreeman Kirei]], [[Creator/KariWahlgren Saber]], [[Creator/JohnnyYongBosch Ryuunosuke]], [[Creator/MelaLee Rin]], [[Creator/PatrickSeitz Assassin]], [[Creator/BridgetHoffman Irisviel]], [[Creator/KyleHebert Berserker]] and [[Creator/DavidVincent Gilgamesh]] were [[{{LightNovel/Durarara}} Shizuo, Celty, Izaya, Erika, Simon, Namie, Horada and Seiji respectively]]. Even [[Creator/LiamOBrien Kariya]] made an appearance in [[{{LightNovel/Durarara}} that show]] as a nameless thug.
*** [[Creator/MelaLee Rin]], [[Creator/GrantGeorge Lancer]], [[Creator/KarenStrassman Sola]], [[Creator/PatrickSeitz Assassin]], and [[Creator/KyleHebert Berserker]] were once [[VisualNovel/HigurashiWhenTheyCry Rena Ryuugu, Keiichi Maebara, Miyo Takano, Mamoru Akasaka, and Jirou Tomitake]].
*** [[Creator/MarcDiraison Tokiomi]] (later replaced by VisualNovel/FateStayNight's [[Creator/KaijiTang Archer]]), [[Creator/CarrieKeranen Maiya]] (later replaced by [[Creator/KarenStrassman Sola-Ui]]), [[Creator/PatrickSeitz Assassin]], [[Creator/DougErholtz Kayneth]] [[Creator/JamiesonPrice Rider]] and [[Creator/MelaLee Rin]] are Guts, Casca, Pippin, Corkus, the Skull Knight and Schierke in various [[Anime/Berserk1997 Be]][[Anime/BerserkTheGoldenAgeArc rse]][[Anime/Berserk2016 rk]] adaptations.
*** A bunch of voice actors also voiced characters in different parts of the Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventure anime. [[Creator/JohnnyYongBosch Ryuunosuke]], [[Creator/MichelleRuff Aoi]] and [[Creator/PatrickSeitz Assassin]] are [[Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventurePhantomBlood Jonathan, Erina and Dio]]. [[Creator/WendeeLee Natalia]], [[Creator/DanWoren Caster]], [[Creator/StephanieSheh Illyasviel]] and [[Creator/MichelleRuff Aoi]] are [[Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventureBattleTendency Lisa Lisa, Stroheim, Suzi Q and Erina]]. [[Creator/MatthewMercer Kiritsugu]], [[Creator/DougErholtz Kayneth]], [[Creator/KyleHebert Berserker]], [[Creator/PatrickSeitz Assassin]] and [[Creator/GrantGeorge Lancer]] are [[Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventureStardustCrusaders Jotaro, Polnareff, Kakyoin, DIO and Steely Dan]]. [[Creator/MatthewMercer Kiritsugu]], [[Creator/VicMignogna one of the other Assassins]] and [[Creator/LucienDodge Waver]] are [[Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventureDiamondIsUnbreakable Jotaro, Rohan and Hazamada]]. And to top it all of, the anime is narrated by [[Creator/DavidVincent Gilgamesh]].
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* ActorAllusion: Rider, like another Creator/AkioOhtsuka role, is [[Franchise/MetalGear a leader of overwhelming charisma, whose men are fanatically loyal to him and his vision for the world, and who is likely to be misunderstood by people who don't know him]].

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* ActorAllusion: Rider, like another Creator/AkioOhtsuka Creator/AkioOtsuka role, is [[Franchise/MetalGear a leader of overwhelming charisma, whose men are fanatically loyal to him and his vision for the world, and who is likely to be misunderstood by people who don't know him]].



*** [[Creator/MiyuIrino Young Kiritsugu]], [[Creator/AkioOhtsuka Rider]], [[Creator/SatoshiTsuruoka Caster]] and [[Creator/AkiraIshida Ryuunosuke]] are [[Webcomic/MobPsycho100 Ritsu, Dimple, Muraki and Mogami]].

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*** [[Creator/MiyuIrino Young Kiritsugu]], [[Creator/AkioOhtsuka [[Creator/AkioOtsuka Rider]], [[Creator/SatoshiTsuruoka Caster]] and [[Creator/AkiraIshida Ryuunosuke]] are [[Webcomic/MobPsycho100 Ritsu, Dimple, Muraki and Mogami]].
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** For the English dub, this trope is played straight for almost every character that appears both here and in the anime of ''VisualNovel/FateStayNight'', due to the dubs being handled by entirely different companies. This is especially notable in the cases of [[Creator/GrantGeorge Gilgamesh]], [[Creator/KirkThornton Kiritsugu]], and [[Creator/JamiesonPrice Kotomine]], since the actors who played them in ''Fate/stay night'' are also in the dub of ''Fate/Zero'', but they play different characters. The voices of [[Creator/LiamOBrien Archer]], [[Creator/DavidVincent Assassin]] (who interestingly enough plays Gilgamesh instead), [[Creator/DougErholtz Shinji]] and [[Creator/KarenStrassman Rider]] in the Deen dub also appear in ''Zero'' and their roles were later Darrined in the ''Unlimited Blade Works'' TV series. The sole exceptions are Creator/MelaLee and Creator/StephanieSheh, reprising the roles of Rin and Ilyasviel respectively and would later reprise their roles again in ''UBW'' and ''Heaven's Feel''.

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** For the English dub, this trope is played straight for almost every character that appears both here and in the anime of ''VisualNovel/FateStayNight'', due to the dubs being handled by entirely different companies. This is especially notable in the cases of [[Creator/GrantGeorge Gilgamesh]], [[Creator/KirkThornton Kiritsugu]], and [[Creator/JamiesonPrice Kotomine]], since the actors who played them in ''Fate/stay night'' are also in the dub of ''Fate/Zero'', but they play different characters. The voices of [[Creator/LiamOBrien Archer]], [[Creator/DavidVincent Assassin]] (who interestingly enough plays Gilgamesh instead), [[Creator/DougErholtz Shinji]] and Shinji]], [[Creator/KarenStrassman Rider]] and [[Creator/PatrickSeitz Kuzuki]] in the Deen dub also appear in ''Zero'' as different characters and their original roles were later Darrined in the ''Unlimited Blade Works'' TV series. The sole exceptions are Creator/MelaLee and Creator/StephanieSheh, reprising the roles of Rin and Ilyasviel respectively and would later reprise their roles again in ''UBW'' and ''Heaven's Feel''.
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* BreakthroughHit: The first opening theme, 'oath sign' pretty much kickstarted [=LiSA's=] career as a solo artist, and she would later find further success with ''LightNovel/SwordArtOnline'', ''LightNovel/TheIrregularAtMagicHighSchool'' and ''Manga/MyHeroAcademia''.

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* BreakthroughHit: The first opening theme, 'oath sign' pretty much kickstarted [=LiSA's=] career as a solo artist, and she would later find further success with ''LightNovel/SwordArtOnline'', ''LightNovel/TheIrregularAtMagicHighSchool'' ''LightNovel/TheIrregularAtMagicHighSchool'', ''Manga/MyHeroAcademia'' and ''Manga/MyHeroAcademia''.''Manga/DemonSlayerKimetsuNoYaiba''.



** For the English dub, this trope is played straight for almost every character that appears both here and in the anime of ''VisualNovel/FateStayNight'', due to the dubs being handled by entirely different companies. This is especially notable in the cases of [[Creator/KateHiggins Artoria]], [[Creator/GrantGeorge Gilgamesh]], [[Creator/KirkThornton Kiritsugu]], and [[Creator/JamiesonPrice Kotomine]], since the actors who played them in ''Fate/stay night'' are also in the dub of ''Fate/zero'', but they play different characters. The sole exceptions are Creator/MelaLee and Creator/StephanieSheh, reprising the roles of Rin and Ilyasviel respectively.

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** For the English dub, this trope is played straight for almost every character that appears both here and in the anime of ''VisualNovel/FateStayNight'', due to the dubs being handled by entirely different companies. This is especially notable in the cases of [[Creator/KateHiggins Artoria]], [[Creator/GrantGeorge Gilgamesh]], [[Creator/KirkThornton Kiritsugu]], and [[Creator/JamiesonPrice Kotomine]], since the actors who played them in ''Fate/stay night'' are also in the dub of ''Fate/zero'', ''Fate/Zero'', but they play different characters. The voices of [[Creator/LiamOBrien Archer]], [[Creator/DavidVincent Assassin]] (who interestingly enough plays Gilgamesh instead), [[Creator/DougErholtz Shinji]] and [[Creator/KarenStrassman Rider]] in the Deen dub also appear in ''Zero'' and their roles were later Darrined in the ''Unlimited Blade Works'' TV series. The sole exceptions are Creator/MelaLee and Creator/StephanieSheh, reprising the roles of Rin and Ilyasviel respectively.respectively and would later reprise their roles again in ''UBW'' and ''Heaven's Feel''.
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* CrossDressingVoices: Played straight in the English dub where young Kiritsugu is voiced by Creator/MarianneMiller, but averted in the original Japanese version where he is voiced by Creator/MiyuIrino.

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* CrossDressingVoices: Played straight in the English dub where young Kiritsugu is voiced by Creator/MarianneMiller, Creator/MarinMiller, but averted in the original Japanese version where he is voiced by Creator/MiyuIrino.
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** In the similar way, [[Creator/CristinaValenzuela Cristina Vee]] plays [[GenkiGirl energetic]] [[TastesLikeDiabetes sweet]] [[{{Moe}} girls]], now she's playing a tortured little girl.

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** In the similar way, [[Creator/CristinaValenzuela Cristina Vee]] plays [[GenkiGirl energetic]] [[TastesLikeDiabetes sweet]] [[{{Moe}} girls]], sweet girls, now she's playing a tortured little girl.
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** PlayedForLaughs with other characters in the Afterword/Author's Comments sections in the novels, in which Gilgamesh is jokingly declared a [[UsefulNotes/BoysLoveNotes Sasoi-Uke]] while Kiritsugu is said to be [[{{Uke}} the bottom]] to [[FoeYay Kotomine]].

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** PlayedForLaughs with other characters in the Afterword/Author's Comments sections in the novels, in which Gilgamesh is jokingly declared a [[UsefulNotes/BoysLoveNotes Sasoi-Uke]] while Kiritsugu is said to be [[{{Uke}} the bottom]] to [[FoeYay Kotomine]].Kotomine.
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* FanNickname:
** Fastwheels or El Melon for Kayneth.
** Team [[{{Netorare}} NTR]] for the team of Kayneth, Lancer and Sola-ui.
** WAGA ARU G for Lancer.
** [[Franchise/TheLegendOfZelda Ganondorf]] for Rider, since both are large and swarthy redheads.
*** Also known to some as Broskander the Great.
*** And now the English dub gives us '''[[Memes/BlazBlue GIGANTIC RIDER]]!'''
** [=GARserker=]: for obvious reasons
*** Also referred to as Jets after his aerial dogfight with Gil.
** Ryuunosuke and Bluebeard are affectionately referred to as Team Crazy.
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*** [[Creator/MarcDiraison Tokiomi]] and [[Creator/CarrieKeranen Maiya]] were once [[Anime/Berserk1997 Guts and Casca]].

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*** [[Creator/MarcDiraison Tokiomi]] and (later replaced by VisualNovel/FateStayNight's [[Creator/KaijiTang Archer]]), [[Creator/CarrieKeranen Maiya]] were once (later replaced by [[Creator/KarenStrassman Sola-Ui]]), [[Creator/PatrickSeitz Assassin]], [[Creator/DougErholtz Kayneth]] [[Creator/JamiesonPrice Rider]] and [[Creator/MelaLee Rin]] are Guts, Casca, Pippin, Corkus, the Skull Knight and Schierke in various [[Anime/Berserk1997 Guts and Casca]].Be]][[Anime/BerserkTheGoldenAgeArc rse]][[Anime/Berserk2016 rk]] adaptations.
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*** A bunch of voice actors also voiced characters in different parts of the Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventure anime. [[Creator/JohnnyYongBosch Ryuunosuke]], [[Creator/MichelleRuff Aoi]] and [[Creator/PatrickSeitz Assassin]] are [[Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventurePhantomBlood Jonathan, Erina and Dio]]. [[Creator/WendeeLee Natalia]], [[Creator/DanWoren Caster]], [[Creator/StephanieSheh Illyasviel]] and [[Creator/MichelleRuff Aoi]] are [[Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventureBattleTendency Lisa Lisa, Stroheim, Suzi Q and Erina]]. [[Creator/MatthewMercer Kiritsugu]], [[Creator/DougErholtz Kayneth]] and [[Creator/KyleHebert Berserker]] are [[Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventureStardustCrusaders Jotaro, Polnareff and Kakyoin]].

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*** A bunch of voice actors also voiced characters in different parts of the Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventure anime. [[Creator/JohnnyYongBosch Ryuunosuke]], [[Creator/MichelleRuff Aoi]] and [[Creator/PatrickSeitz Assassin]] are [[Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventurePhantomBlood Jonathan, Erina and Dio]]. [[Creator/WendeeLee Natalia]], [[Creator/DanWoren Caster]], [[Creator/StephanieSheh Illyasviel]] and [[Creator/MichelleRuff Aoi]] are [[Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventureBattleTendency Lisa Lisa, Stroheim, Suzi Q and Erina]]. [[Creator/MatthewMercer Kiritsugu]], [[Creator/DougErholtz Kayneth]] and Kayneth]], [[Creator/KyleHebert Berserker]] Berserker]], [[Creator/PatrickSeitz Assassin]] and [[Creator/GrantGeorge Lancer]] are [[Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventureStardustCrusaders Jotaro, Polnareff Polnareff, Kakyoin, DIO and Kakyoin]].Steely Dan]]. [[Creator/MatthewMercer Kiritsugu]], [[Creator/VicMignogna one of the other Assassins]] and [[Creator/LucienDodge Waver]] are [[Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventureDiamondIsUnbreakable Jotaro, Rohan and Hazamada]]. And to top it all of, the anime is narrated by [[Creator/DavidVincent Gilgamesh]].
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*** [[Creator/SayakaOhara Irisviel]], [[Creator/MikiIto Taiga]], [[Creator/RikiyaKoyama Kiritsugu]], [[Creator/MasashiHirose Risei]] and [[Creator/AyakoKawasumi Saber]] are [[VisualNovel/UminekoWhenTheyCry Beatrice, Eva, Rudolf, Hideyoshi and Lion.]]


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*** A bunch of voice actors also voiced characters in different parts of the Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventure anime. [[Creator/JohnnyYongBosch Ryuunosuke]], [[Creator/MichelleRuff Aoi]] and [[Creator/PatrickSeitz Assassin]] are [[Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventurePhantomBlood Jonathan, Erina and Dio]]. [[Creator/WendeeLee Natalia]], [[Creator/DanWoren Caster]], [[Creator/StephanieSheh Illyasviel]] and [[Creator/MichelleRuff Aoi]] are [[Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventureBattleTendency Lisa Lisa, Stroheim, Suzi Q and Erina]]. [[Creator/MatthewMercer Kiritsugu]], [[Creator/DougErholtz Kayneth]] and [[Creator/KyleHebert Berserker]] are [[Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventureStardustCrusaders Jotaro, Polnareff and Kakyoin]].

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** Creator/MiyuIrino (young Kiritsugu) previously voiced a role with Creator/AyahiTakagaki (Shirley), Creator/IsshinChiba (Norikata), Creator/AkenoWatanabe (Natalia) and Creator/MegumiToyoguchi (Sola-Ui) in the 2009 TV adaptation of ''VisualNovel/PhantomOfInferno'', Gen Urobuchi and Nitro+'s first work.
** [[Creator/MiyuIrino Young Kiritsugu]], [[Creator/AkioOhtsuka Rider]], [[Creator/SatoshiTsuruoka Caster]] and [[Creator/AkiraIshida Ryuunosuke]] are [[Webcomic/MobPsycho100 Ritsu, Dimple, Muraki and Mogami]].
** [[Creator/TakumiYamazaki Kayneth]] and [[Creator/HikaruMidorikawa Lancer]] played allies Dr. West and Master Therion, respectively, in ''VisualNovel/{{Demonbane}}'', a previous {{Creator/Nitroplus}} work.
*** In the English Dub:
** [[Creator/PatrickSeitz Assassin]], [[Creator/DavidVincent Gilgamesh]], [[Creator/JamiesonPrice Rider]], [[Creator/CristinaValenzuela Sakura]], [[Creator/MelaLee Rin]], [[Creator/GrantGeorge Lancer]] and [[Creator/DougErholtz Kayneth]] were [[VideoGame/BlazBlue Ragna the Bloodegde, Jin Kisaragi, Iron Tager, Noel Vermilion, Rachel Alucard, Kagura Mutsuki and Hazama]].
** [[Creator/CristinaValenzuela Sakura]], [[Creator/MelaLee Rin]], [[Creator/DavidVincent Gilgamesh]], [[Creator/StephanieSheh Illyasviel]] and [[Creator/MichelleRuff Aoi]] were [[VideoGame/{{Neptunia}} Compa, 5pb, Brave the Hard, Histoire and NISA]].
** [[Creator/CrispinFreeman Kirei]], [[Creator/KariWahlgren Saber]], [[Creator/JohnnyYongBosch Ryuunosuke]], [[Creator/MelaLee Rin]], [[Creator/PatrickSeitz Assassin]], [[Creator/BridgetHoffman Irisviel]], [[Creator/KyleHebert Berserker]] and [[Creator/DavidVincent Gilgamesh]] were [[{{LightNovel/Durarara}} Shizuo, Celty, Izaya, Erika, Simon, Namie, Horada and Seiji respectively]]. Even [[Creator/LiamOBrien Kariya]] made an appearance in [[{{LightNovel/Durarara}} that show]] as a nameless thug.
** [[Creator/MelaLee Rin]], [[Creator/GrantGeorge Lancer]], [[Creator/KarenStrassman Sola]], [[Creator/PatrickSeitz Assassin]], and [[Creator/KyleHebert Berserker]] were once [[VisualNovel/HigurashiWhenTheyCry Rena Ryuugu, Keiichi Maebara, Miyo Takano, Mamoru Akasaka, and Jirou Tomitake]].

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***
Creator/MiyuIrino (young Kiritsugu) previously voiced a role with Creator/AyahiTakagaki (Shirley), Creator/IsshinChiba (Norikata), Creator/AkenoWatanabe (Natalia) and Creator/MegumiToyoguchi (Sola-Ui) in the 2009 TV adaptation of ''VisualNovel/PhantomOfInferno'', Gen Urobuchi and Nitro+'s first work.
** *** [[Creator/MiyuIrino Young Kiritsugu]], [[Creator/AkioOhtsuka Rider]], [[Creator/SatoshiTsuruoka Caster]] and [[Creator/AkiraIshida Ryuunosuke]] are [[Webcomic/MobPsycho100 Ritsu, Dimple, Muraki and Mogami]].
** *** [[Creator/TakumiYamazaki Kayneth]] and [[Creator/HikaruMidorikawa Lancer]] played allies Dr. West and Master Therion, respectively, in ''VisualNovel/{{Demonbane}}'', a previous {{Creator/Nitroplus}} work.
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*** In the English Dub:
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[[Creator/PatrickSeitz Assassin]], [[Creator/DavidVincent Gilgamesh]], [[Creator/JamiesonPrice Rider]], [[Creator/CristinaValenzuela Sakura]], [[Creator/MelaLee Rin]], [[Creator/GrantGeorge Lancer]] and [[Creator/DougErholtz Kayneth]] were [[VideoGame/BlazBlue Ragna the Bloodegde, Jin Kisaragi, Iron Tager, Noel Vermilion, Rachel Alucard, Kagura Mutsuki and Hazama]].
** *** [[Creator/CristinaValenzuela Sakura]], [[Creator/MelaLee Rin]], [[Creator/DavidVincent Gilgamesh]], [[Creator/StephanieSheh Illyasviel]] and [[Creator/MichelleRuff Aoi]] were [[VideoGame/{{Neptunia}} Compa, 5pb, Brave the Hard, Histoire and NISA]].
** *** [[Creator/CrispinFreeman Kirei]], [[Creator/KariWahlgren Saber]], [[Creator/JohnnyYongBosch Ryuunosuke]], [[Creator/MelaLee Rin]], [[Creator/PatrickSeitz Assassin]], [[Creator/BridgetHoffman Irisviel]], [[Creator/KyleHebert Berserker]] and [[Creator/DavidVincent Gilgamesh]] were [[{{LightNovel/Durarara}} Shizuo, Celty, Izaya, Erika, Simon, Namie, Horada and Seiji respectively]]. Even [[Creator/LiamOBrien Kariya]] made an appearance in [[{{LightNovel/Durarara}} that show]] as a nameless thug.
** *** [[Creator/MelaLee Rin]], [[Creator/GrantGeorge Lancer]], [[Creator/KarenStrassman Sola]], [[Creator/PatrickSeitz Assassin]], and [[Creator/KyleHebert Berserker]] were once [[VisualNovel/HigurashiWhenTheyCry Rena Ryuugu, Keiichi Maebara, Miyo Takano, Mamoru Akasaka, and Jirou Tomitake]].Tomitake]].
*** [[Creator/MarcDiraison Tokiomi]] and [[Creator/CarrieKeranen Maiya]] were once [[Anime/Berserk1997 Guts and Casca]].
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** [[Creator/MiyuIrino Young Kiritsugu]], [[Creator/AkioOhtsuka Rider]], [[Creator/SatoshiTsuruoka Caster]] and [[Creator/AkiraIshida Ryuunosuke] are [[Webcomic/MobPsycho100 Ritsu, Dimple, Muraki and Mogami]].

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** [[Creator/MiyuIrino Young Kiritsugu]], [[Creator/AkioOhtsuka Rider]], [[Creator/SatoshiTsuruoka Caster]] and [[Creator/AkiraIshida Ryuunosuke] Ryuunosuke]] are [[Webcomic/MobPsycho100 Ritsu, Dimple, Muraki and Mogami]].
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** [[Creator/MiyuIrino Young Kiritsugu]], [[Creator/AkioOhtsuka Rider]], [[Creator/SatoshiTsuruoka Caster]] and [[Creator/AkiraIshida Ryuunosuke] are [[Webcomic/MobPsycho100 Ritsu, Dimple, Muraki and Mogami]].
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* IKnewIt: ...Although, those who didn't agree with the above theory usually assumed the man to be Eumenes anyway, for various reasons[[note]]The historical Eumenes was from Thrace (modern-day Turkey) and is suspected to have Scythian ancestry; Scythians were known for their long black hair, whereas the Greeks would usually cut it short. Eumenes also began as Alexander's secretary rather than as a warrior or soldier, which would explain the character's outfit of a robe rather than armor. Coincidentally, Eumenes was known for his loyalty to Alexander and his lineage, a trait many associate with Waver.[[/note]]. Later series like the ''Sensha Otoko'' parody manga, ''LightNovel/LordElMelloiIICaseFiles'' and ''VideoGame/FateGrandOrder'' would later imply it heavily before he was officially confirmed as such.

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%%** Some people managed to figure out that Berserker's identity is [[spoiler:Lancelot]].
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Although, those who didn't agree with the above theory usually assumed the man to be Eumenes anyway, for various reasons[[note]]The historical Eumenes was from Thrace (modern-day Turkey) and is suspected to have Scythian ancestry; Scythians were known for their long black hair, whereas the Greeks would usually cut it short. Eumenes also began as Alexander's secretary rather than as a warrior or soldier, which would explain the character's outfit of a robe rather than armor. Coincidentally, Eumenes was known for his loyalty to Alexander and his lineage, a trait many associate with Waver.[[/note]]. Later series like the ''Sensha Otoko'' parody manga, ''LightNovel/LordElMelloiIICaseFiles'' and ''VideoGame/FateGrandOrder'' would later imply it heavily before he was officially confirmed as such.
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** Before Gilles de Rais was chosen as Caster, Gen Orobuchi wanted to use a Chinese Xian. The reason he didn't was because Nasu ruled that Eastern heroes can't be summoned in Fuyuki's system (Assassin in ''stay night'' was explicitly a case of the rules being broken by Caster).

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** Before Gilles de Rais was chosen as Caster, Gen Orobuchi wanted to use a Chinese Xian. The reason he didn't was because Nasu ruled that Eastern heroes can't be summoned in Fuyuki's system (Assassin ([[spoiler:fake]] Assassin in ''stay night'' was explicitly a case of the rules being broken by Caster).
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* {{Jossed}}: Quite a lot of people speculated that the man with long black hair and long robes in Ionioi Hetairoi was an aged-up Waver Velvet from the future who managed to join after his death. However, the UniverseCompendium for ''Case Files'' states that the man is [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eumenes Eumenes of Cardia]].
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*** Also referred to as Jets after his aerial dogfight with Gil.
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** Before Gilles de Rais was chosen as Caster, Gen Orobuchi wanted to use a Chinese Xian.

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** Before Gilles de Rais was chosen as Caster, Gen Orobuchi wanted to use a Chinese Xian. The reason he didn't was because Nasu ruled that Eastern heroes can't be summoned in Fuyuki's system (Assassin in ''stay night'' was explicitly a case of the rules being broken by Caster).
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** Creator/DougErholtz who played Shiji Matou, once again plays a SmugSnake, WannabeBigBad.

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** Creator/DougErholtz who played Shiji Matou, once again plays a SmugSnake, WannabeBigBad.SmugSnake albeit a better Magus.

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** Creator/KarenStrassman once again plays a woman who despises Doug Erholtz's character, though here they're engaged instead of being Master and Servant.

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** Creator/DougErholtz who played Shiji Matou, once again plays a SmugSnake, WannabeBigBad.
** Creator/KarenStrassman who played Rider/Medusa once again plays a woman who despises Doug Erholtz's character, though here they're engaged instead of being Master and Servant.
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* CastingGag: Creator/KirkThornton who voiced Kiritsugu Emiya in the original Deen dub, returns as Kiritsugu's father Norikata Emiya.

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* CrossDressingVoices: Played straight in the English dub where young Kiritsugu is voiced by Creator/MarianneMiller, but averted in the original Japanese version where he is voiced by Creator/MiyuIrino.
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* CreatorsFavorite: Urobuchi has stated in interviews that his favorite characters are Gilgamesh and Kirei, and that he wrote ''Fate/Zero'' mainly for Kirei.


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** The historical Gilles de Rais is widely speculated to have been gay or bisexual; likewise Caster is described as being attracted to both tomboyish women and feminine men.

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