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* CreatorBacklash: Creator/JonStewart brings his work in the film up a lot as SelfDeprecation, often to contrast his resume with the work of a much more successful actor.



* OldShame: Creator/JonStewart brings his work in the film up a lot as SelfDeprecation, often to contrast his resume with the work of a much more successful actor.
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* CastTheRunnerUp: Creator/DannyDeVito originally wanted Creator/EdwardNorton to play Rainbow Randolph, but when Norton read the script, he said he found Sheldon to be the more interesting role.

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* CastTheRunnerUp: Creator/DannyDeVito originally wanted Creator/EdwardNorton to play Rainbow Randolph, but when Norton read the script, he said he found Sheldon to be the more interesting role. (Interestingly, Norton had been the runner-up for the lead in ''Film/ManOnTheMoon'' -- which [=DeVito=] produced and co-starred in -- losing the part of Creator/AndyKaufman to Creator/JimCarrey because Carrey was a bigger box-office draw.)
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* InMemoriam: InUniverse example: After Spinner Dunn is killed by the Parade of Hope gangsters, Smoochy, who gave Spinner roles on his show as both a cowbell-ringing game hunter and Moochy the Rhino, dedicates his ice show to him, complete with ringing his character's cowbell to start the show.

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* CastTheRunnerUp: Creator/DannyDeVito originally wanted Creator/EdwardNorton to play Rainbow Randolph, but when Norton read the script, he said he found Sheldon to be the more interesting role.



** Creator/DannyDeVito only directed one more film after this, the Creator/BenStiller comedy ''Film/{{Duplex}}'', which also flopped. Fortunately he'd rebound on ''Series/ItsAlwaysSunnyInPhiladelphia''.

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** Creator/DannyDeVito only directed one more film after this, the Creator/BenStiller comedy ''Film/{{Duplex}}'', which also flopped. Fortunately he'd rebound on ''Series/ItsAlwaysSunnyInPhiladelphia''.



** Creator/RobinWilliams, best known for playing lovable ManChild characters, plays a straight up asshole as Rainbow Randolph. Williams joked in an interview that his friends called this movie, ''{{Film/Insomnia}}'', and ''Film/OneHourPhoto'' his "trifecta of evil."

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** Creator/RobinWilliams, best known for playing lovable ManChild {{Manchild}} characters, plays a straight up asshole as Rainbow Randolph. Williams joked in an interview that his friends called this movie, ''{{Film/Insomnia}}'', and ''Film/OneHourPhoto'' his "trifecta of evil."



** DeVito originally wanted Edward Norton to play Rainbow Randolph, but when Norton read the script, he said he found Sheldon to be the more interesting role.
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** DeVito originally wanted Edward Norton to play Rainbow Randolph, but when Norton read the script, he said he found Sheldon to be the more interesting role.
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** Harvey Fierstein, an openly gay actor known for playing CampGay characters, plays a gangster.

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** Harvey Fierstein, Creator/HarveyFierstein, an openly gay actor known for playing CampGay characters, plays a gangster.
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** Creator/EdwardNorton is the opposite. He's usually cast as villains or anti heroes, but Sheldon Mopes is a boy scout.
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** Harvey Fierstein, known for playing CampGay characters, plays a gangster.

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** Harvey Fierstein, an openly gay actor known for playing CampGay characters, plays a gangster.

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* PlayingAgainstType: Harvey Fierstein, known for playing CampGay characters, plays a gangster.

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* ActorAllusion:
** Randolph attempts to discredit Sheldon by tricking him into performing at a [[Film/AmericanHistoryX neo-Nazi rally]].
** Another [[Film/AmericanHistoryX AHX]] ShoutOut -- Sheldon pointing a gun at Burke and saying "You just fucked with the wrong rhino". Norton's character exclaims "You just fucked with the wrong bull" [[spoiler:before murdering the man who tried to steal his car.]]
** Elements of Rainbow Randolph, an actor who does a lot of kid-friendly fare, but is actually very foul mouthed, is more than a bit like Creator/RobinWilliams in real life. Really the main difference between the two is that Randolph is a scumbag, and Williams definitely was not.
** When Randolph attempts to sabotage a Smoochy taping with penis cookies, during his tirade when he's shouting all the penis-related slang terms, one of them is "Rumpleforeskin," a term he previously used as Film/MrsDoubtfire.

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* ActorAllusion:
** Randolph attempts to discredit
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** Another [[Film/AmericanHistoryX AHX]] ShoutOut -- Sheldon pointing a gun at Burke and saying "You just fucked with the wrong rhino". Norton's character exclaims "You just fucked with the wrong bull" [[spoiler:before murdering the man who tried to steal
puts on his car.]]
** Elements of Rainbow Randolph, an actor who does a lot of kid-friendly fare, but is
soy hot dog was actually very foul mouthed, is more than a bit like Creator/RobinWilliams concocted by Creator/EdwardNorton in real life. Really the main difference between the two is that Randolph is a scumbag, and Williams definitely was not.
** When Randolph attempts to sabotage a Smoochy taping with penis cookies, during
his tirade when he's shouting all the penis-related slang terms, one of them is "Rumpleforeskin," a term he previously used as Film/MrsDoubtfire.hotel room.



* BoxOfficeBomb: It grossed $8,382,938 during its theatrical release, barely a sixth of its $50 million budget. Danny De Vito starts his DVD commentary with "I guess the mourning period is over."

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* BoxOfficeBomb: It grossed $8,382,938 during its theatrical release, barely a sixth of its $50 million budget. Danny De Vito Creator/DannyDeVito starts his DVD commentary DVDCommentary with "I guess the mourning period is over."



** ''Death To Smoochy'' killed writer Adam Resnick's cinematic career completely after several failed screenplays previously. Resnick has only worked in TV since.
** Danny [=DeVito=] only directed one more film after this, the Creator/BenStiller comedy ''Film/{{Duplex}}'', which also flopped. Fortunately he'd rebound on ''Series/ItsAlwaysSunnyInPhiladelphia''.
* OldShame: Jon Stewart brings his work in the film up a lot as SelfDeprecation, often to contrast his resume with the work of a much more successful actor.

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** ''Death To Smoochy'' The film killed writer Adam Resnick's cinematic career completely after several failed screenplays previously. Resnick has only worked in TV since.
** Danny [=DeVito=] Creator/DannyDeVito only directed one more film after this, the Creator/BenStiller comedy ''Film/{{Duplex}}'', which also flopped. Fortunately he'd rebound on ''Series/ItsAlwaysSunnyInPhiladelphia''.
* OldShame: Jon Stewart Creator/JonStewart brings his work in the film up a lot as SelfDeprecation, often to contrast his resume with the work of a much more successful actor.



* WhatCouldHaveBeen: Among the auditionees for the part of Spinner, the brain-damaged boxer, was Music/HenryRollins. Rollins tells the [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSm0LZhVSnE story of his audition here]].
** Writer Adam Resnick wrote a small cameo bit by [[WesternAnimation/BluesClues Steve Burns]], where Sheldon would see Steve in a bar, ask how it was going and Steve would just shake his head. Devito cut it because he felt that most viewers wouldn't get the reference. Funnily enough, this film released shortly before Steve left his show, adding another layer to said bit.

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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: WhatCouldHaveBeen:
** Creator/JimCarrey was attached to star at one point but eventually dropped out to do ''Film/TheMajestic''.
** Creator/HankAzaria was originally cast as Marion Frank Stokes, but dropped out due commitments to ''Film/AmericasSweethearts''.
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Among the auditionees for the part of Spinner, the brain-damaged boxer, was Music/HenryRollins. Rollins tells the [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSm0LZhVSnE story of his audition here]].
** Writer Adam Resnick wrote a small cameo bit by [[WesternAnimation/BluesClues Steve Burns]], where Sheldon would see Steve in a bar, ask how it was going and Steve would just shake his head. Devito [=DeVito=] cut it because he felt that most viewers wouldn't get the reference. Funnily enough, this film released shortly before Steve left his show, adding another layer to said bit.bit.
** In the original script, the Smoochy costume was orange.
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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: Among the auditionees for the part of Spinner, the brain-damaged boxer, was Music/HenryRollins. Rollins tells the [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSm0LZhVSnE story of his audition here]].

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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: Among the auditionees for the part of Spinner, the brain-damaged boxer, was Music/HenryRollins. Rollins tells the [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSm0LZhVSnE story of his audition here]].here]].
** Writer Adam Resnick wrote a small cameo bit by [[WesternAnimation/BluesClues Steve Burns]], where Sheldon would see Steve in a bar, ask how it was going and Steve would just shake his head. Devito cut it because he felt that most viewers wouldn't get the reference. Funnily enough, this film released shortly before Steve left his show, adding another layer to said bit.
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** Danny De Vito only directed one more film after this, the BenStiller comedy "Duplex", which also flopped. Fortunately he'd rebound on ItsAlwaysSunnyInPhiladelphia.

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** Danny De Vito [=DeVito=] only directed one more film after this, the BenStiller Creator/BenStiller comedy "Duplex", ''Film/{{Duplex}}'', which also flopped. Fortunately he'd rebound on ItsAlwaysSunnyInPhiladelphia.''Series/ItsAlwaysSunnyInPhiladelphia''.
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** When Randolph attempts to sabotage a Smoochy taping with penis cookies, during his tirade when he's shouting all the penis-related slang terms, one of them is "Rumpleforeskin," a term he previously used as Film/MrsDoubtfire.
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* BillingDisplacement: Creator/RobinWilliams had top billing over Creator/EdwardNorton, the latter of whom has more screentime than Williams.

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** Elements of Rainbow Randolph, an actor who does a lot of kid-friendly fair, but is actually very foul mouthed, is more than a bit like Creator/RobinWilliams in real life. Really the main difference between the two is that Randolph is a scumbag, and Williams definitely was not.

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** Elements of Rainbow Randolph, an actor who does a lot of kid-friendly fair, fare, but is actually very foul mouthed, is more than a bit like Creator/RobinWilliams in real life. Really the main difference between the two is that Randolph is a scumbag, and Williams definitely was not.


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** Creator/RobinWilliams, best known for playing lovable ManChild characters, plays a straight up asshole as Rainbow Randolph. Williams joked in an interview that his friends called this movie, ''{{Film/Insomnia}}'', and ''Film/OneHourPhoto'' his "trifecta of evil."
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** Elements of Rainbow Randolph, an actor who does a lot of kid-friendly fair, but is actually very foul mouthed, is more than a bit like Creator/RobinWilliams in real life. Really the main difference between the two is that Randolph is a scumbag, and Williams definitely was not.

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* CreatorKiller: ''Death To Smoochy'' killed writer Adam Resnick's cinematic career completely after several failed screenplays previously. Resnick has only worked in TV since.

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''Death To Smoochy'' killed writer Adam Resnick's cinematic career completely after several failed screenplays previously. Resnick has only worked in TV since.



* OldShame: Jon Stewart brings his work in the film up a lot, almost to the point where you might make the mistake that he's actually ''proud'' of the movie but is afraid that liking it will make him not cool.
* PlayingAgainstType: In films before this, Ed Norton mostly played very strong and angry dramatic characters. Here he's a goofy hippie.

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* OldShame: Jon Stewart brings his work in the film up a lot, almost lot as SelfDeprecation, often to contrast his resume with the point where you might make the mistake that he's actually ''proud'' work of the movie but is afraid that liking it will make him not cool.
a much more successful actor.
* PlayingAgainstType: In films before this, Ed Norton mostly played very strong and angry dramatic characters. Here he's Harvey Fierstein, known for playing CampGay characters, plays a goofy hippie.gangster.
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** Danny DeVito only directed one more film, "Duplex", after this which also flopped. Fortunately he'd rebound on ItsAlwaysSunnyInPhiladelphia.

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** Danny DeVito De Vito only directed one more film, film after this, the BenStiller comedy "Duplex", after this which also flopped. Fortunately he'd rebound on ItsAlwaysSunnyInPhiladelphia.
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** Danny DeVito only directed one more film, "Duplex", after this which also flopped. Fortunately he'd rebound on ItsAlwaysSunnyInPhiladelphia.
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* CreatorKiller: ''Death To Smoochy'' killed writer Adam Resnick's cinematic career completely after several failed screenplays previously. Resnick has only worked in TV since.
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* PlayingAgainstType: In films before this, Ed Norton mostly played very strong and angry dramatic characters. Here he's a goofy hippie.

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* ActorAllusion: Randolph attempts to discredit Sheldon by tricking him into performing at a [[Film/AmericanHistoryX neo-Nazi rally]].

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Randolph attempts to discredit Sheldon by tricking him into performing at a [[Film/AmericanHistoryX neo-Nazi rally]].



* WhatCouldHaveBeen: Among the auditionees for the part of Spinner, the brain-damaged boxer, was HenryRollins. Rollins tells the [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSm0LZhVSnE story of his audition here]].

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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: Among the auditionees for the part of Spinner, the brain-damaged boxer, was HenryRollins.Music/HenryRollins. Rollins tells the [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSm0LZhVSnE story of his audition here]].
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* BoxOfficeBomb: It grossed $8,382,938 during its theatrical release, barely a sixth of its $50 million budget.

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* BoxOfficeBomb: It grossed $8,382,938 during its theatrical release, barely a sixth of its $50 million budget. Danny De Vito starts his DVD commentary with "I guess the mourning period is over."
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* ActorAllusion: Randolph attempts to discredit Sheldon by tricking him into performing at a [[Film/AmericanHistoryX neo-Nazi rally]].
** Another [[Film/AmericanHistoryX AHX]] ShoutOut -- Sheldon pointing a gun at Burke and saying "You just fucked with the wrong rhino". Norton's character exclaims "You just fucked with the wrong bull" [[spoiler:before murdering the man who tried to steal his car.]]
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* BoxOfficeBomb: It grossed $8,382,938 during its theatrical release, barely a sixth of its $50 million budget.
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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: Among the auditionees for the part of Spinner, the brain-damaged boxer, was HenryRollins. Rollins tells the story of his audition here: [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSm0LZhVSnE]].

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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: Among the auditionees for the part of Spinner, the brain-damaged boxer, was HenryRollins. Rollins tells the story of his audition here: [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSm0LZhVSnE]].com/watch?v=KSm0LZhVSnE story of his audition here]].
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* OldShame: Jon Stewart brings this up a lot, almost to the point where you might make the mistake that he's actually ''proud'' of the movie but is afraid that liking it will make him not cool.

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* OldShame: Jon Stewart brings this his work in the film up a lot, almost to the point where you might make the mistake that he's actually ''proud'' of the movie but is afraid that liking it will make him not cool.
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* OldShame: Jon Stewart brings this up a lot, almost to the point where you might make the mistake that he's actually ''proud'' of the movie but is afraid that liking it will make him not cool.
* WhatCouldHaveBeen: Among the auditionees for the part of Spinner, the brain-damaged boxer, was HenryRollins. Rollins tells the story of his audition here: [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSm0LZhVSnE]].

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