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* In ''The Short Victorious War'', when the Havenites step up their harassment campaign to attacking convoys, the captain of the convoy's escort brings her ships about to face the Havenites in a fight she knows they will not win, or survive... but just might buy enough time for the convoy ships, including the one with her husband and daughter[[note:Anton and Helen Zilwicki]] on board, to escape. The chapter ends with her husband breaking down in tears as he holds his four-year-old daughter, watching the readouts of the battle.
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-->'''Daughter:''' What's happening, Daddy? Are the Peeps gonna hurt Mommy? Are they gonna get ''us''?\\
'''Father:''' The Peeps won't get us, baby. We're safe now. Mommy made it safe.
-->'''Daughter:''' What's happening, Daddy? Are the Peeps gonna hurt Mommy? Are they gonna get ''us''?\\
'''Father:''' The Peeps won't get us, baby. We're safe now. Mommy made it safe.
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** One of the big motivations for the Manticoran task force's defense of Hypatia? Seeing another Yawata Strike about to happen throws the grieving Manticoran crews into a desperate berserker mindset, throwing themselves at the Solarian fleet with reckless disregard for their own lives. The entire book focuses on how the many characters are dealing with the trauma and grief of recent events and decades of war.
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*** And the villains' motivation for this? It isn't part of some clever LongGame plan. It is simple grief and a need to hurt their enemies in revenge [[EvenEvilHasLovedOnes for their own personal losses.]] Which makes it seem all the more meaningless.
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** It gets worse: [[spoiler:Higgins is the Admiral commanding Home Fleet during Oyster Bay]].
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** It gets worse: [[spoiler:Higgins is the Admiral commanding Home Fleet during Oyster Bay]]. In ''Uncompromising Honor'', his treecat bodyguard, who is secretly a type of telepathic therapist the species produces called a "mind-healer", gives him the treecat name "Shadow Heart" from all that he's gone through.
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* The deaths of several recurring characters and a class of schoolchildren in ''Flag in Exile'' are pretty sad, especially given the sheer wastefulness of the situation. Somehow, though, the saddest moment is arguably reserved for one of the ''perpetrators'' of those crimes, given his agonized and drawn-out HeelRealization.
--> He whispered the words he'd said to priests so often during his life with a desperate need he'd never before dreamed was possible. "Help ... help me find God's forgiveness for I have failed in the Test He sent me, and I am afraid."
--> He whispered the words he'd said to priests so often during his life with a desperate need he'd never before dreamed was possible. "Help ... help me find God's forgiveness for I have failed in the Test He sent me, and I am afraid."
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* The Mobius Uprising in ''Shadow of Victory'' starts as a well organized push by the locals to seize control of the planet from the Trifecta Corporation and their StateSec forces before they clear cut the only valuable commodity on the planet for the sake of unbridled greed. For a while it looks like they might even succeed- until the reader remembers [[TheMole who exactly promised them Manticoran naval support.]] They're winning the war and in a position to declare victory when Solarian ships arrive in system and begin dropping an OrbitalBombardment on rebel held city after rebel held city. When the Manticorans eventually show up, they look upon what could be politely called a genocide. Commodore Terekhov [[RoaringRampageOfRevenge responds in kind]] to the Solarian ships, but the damage has been done.
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** A small Manticoran fleet that is completely outnumbered has been hiding nearby. No one at Hypatia would blame them if they stayed out of it. Do they stay back? No, they throw themselves into the fire, drawing the Solarians' attention to themselves and attacking them just to give the Hypatians just a couple more hours to save as many people as possible. Because the Manticorans follow [[HeroicSacrifice Edward Saganami's tradition]], and they'll be ''damned'' if they let innocents die in front of them!
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** A small Manticoran fleet that is completely outnumbered has been hiding nearby. No one at Hypatia would blame them if they stayed out of it. Do they stay back? No, they throw themselves into the fire, drawing the Solarians' attention to themselves and attacking them just to give the Hypatians just a couple more hours to save as many people as possible. Because the Manticorans follow [[HeroicSacrifice Edward Saganami's tradition]], and they'll be ''damned'' if they let innocents die in front of them!
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** [[spoiler:The destruction of Beowulf's three main space stations. The Alignment planned it so Alpha - which was, at the moment, hosting a high-level conference of the Alliance - would get destroyed last, and the people within ''know'' they only have the time to call their loved ones. Total casualties: '''''43 million people''''', several of them big mainstays of the story such as Thomas Caparelli, Pat Givens and many others - with Hamish, Honor's Uncle Jacques, their cats and two or three more people surviving just because they were just in the place to get skinsuits. And, to make it worse, they had just managed to stop the Solarians' attack on the stations thanks to a last-ditch defense effort.]]
** All along the book, there's hints that Emily's health is getting worse in spite of all medical treatment, yet she shoulders on, with the hope of being able to have a second child with Hamish. [[spoiler:Then the Beowulf Massacre happens, and Honor has to tell her that Hamish died in the explosion at Alpha. Emily suffers a massive arrest that kills her instantly, leaving Honor with ''yet another'' loved one she has lost, but this time she thinks it's all her fault.]]
** [[spoiler:During all the run at Sol and Earth, Honor is in a constant state of terrifying, bloodthirsty TranquilFury that barely hides the ''incredible'' pain she's suffering since the Beowulf Massacre. Cue Hamish arriving (after surviving by pure chance) to her ship - and she breaks down in his arms.]]
** All along the book, there's hints that Emily's health is getting worse in spite of all medical treatment, yet she shoulders on, with the hope of being able to have a second child with Hamish. [[spoiler:Then the Beowulf Massacre happens, and Honor has to tell her that Hamish died in the explosion at Alpha. Emily suffers a massive arrest that kills her instantly, leaving Honor with ''yet another'' loved one she has lost, but this time she thinks it's all her fault.]]
** [[spoiler:During all the run at Sol and Earth, Honor is in a constant state of terrifying, bloodthirsty TranquilFury that barely hides the ''incredible'' pain she's suffering since the Beowulf Massacre. Cue Hamish arriving (after surviving by pure chance) to her ship - and she breaks down in his arms.]]
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* ''Uncompromising Honor'': As part of their "Operation Buccaneer", the Solarians send a fleet to raid Hypatia, who had just voted to leave the Solarian League. The Solarian admiral gives the Hypatians thirty-six hours to abandon all their space infrastructure before they blow it up - time that is clearly insufficient to carry out a full evacuation. What follows is chaos as families have to leave their homes with just the absolutely necessary and hundreds of men and women that know they will not be able to leave before the Solarians attack.
** A small Manticoran fleet that is completely outnumbered has been hiding nearby. No one at Hypatia would blame them if they stayed out of it. Do they stay back? No, they throw themselves into the fire, drawing the Solarians' attention to themselves and attacking them just to give the Hypatians just a couple more hours to save as many people as possible. Because the Manticorans follow [[HeroicSacrifice Edward Saganami's tradition]], and they'll be ''damned'' if they let innocents die in front of them!
** A small Manticoran fleet that is completely outnumbered has been hiding nearby. No one at Hypatia would blame them if they stayed out of it. Do they stay back? No, they throw themselves into the fire, drawing the Solarians' attention to themselves and attacking them just to give the Hypatians just a couple more hours to save as many people as possible. Because the Manticorans follow [[HeroicSacrifice Edward Saganami's tradition]], and they'll be ''damned'' if they let innocents die in front of them!
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* Once upon a time, Bernardus Van Dort married Suzanne Bannister, and only a bit too late did he learn that she would not be able to benefit from the prolong treatment, which meant she would die a long time before he did. But they were still able to have a happy family, with two little girls. Then, when negotiations were needed in another world, Suzanne said she would take care of it, and Bernardus took the shuttle up to the ship with her and their daughters, kissed them and watched as they set out for New Tuscany. That was the last time he saw them.
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** Then, after HMS ''Nike'' manages to destroy or cripple five out of the six enemy ships ''[[BeyondTheImpossible by [[DyingMomentofAwesome herself]]'', and despite massive damage:
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---> "We're done, James," Saganami said. His voice was hoarse, harsh with pain and the exhaustion of blood loss, yet his expression was [[DyingMomentofAwesome almost calm]]. "Tell the Queen. [[HeroicSacrifice Tell her what my people did.]] And tell her [[SorryThatImDying I'm]] [[KilledMidSentence sor—]]"
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---> "We're done, James," Saganami said. His voice was hoarse, harsh with pain and the exhaustion of blood loss, yet his expression was[[DyingMomentofAwesome almost calm]].calm. "Tell the Queen. [[HeroicSacrifice Tell her what my people did.]] And tell her [[SorryThatImDying I'm]] [[KilledMidSentence sor—]]"
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-->[[BadassBoast "There won't be six when we're done,"]] Saganami said grimly, "and every one we destroy, or just cripple badly enough, [[DoNotGoGentle is one that won't be chasing you or another unit of the convoy.]] And now, I'm done arguing with you, James. Take your ship, and your people, and get your ass home to that wife and those kids of yours. [[FourStarBadass Saganami]], clear."
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-->[[BadassBoast "There won't be six when we're done,"]] Saganami said grimly, "and "[[IGotYouCovered and every one we destroy, destroy]], or just cripple badly enough, [[DoNotGoGentle [[YouShallNotPass is one that won't be chasing you you]] or another unit of the convoy.]] convoy. And now, I'm done arguing with you, James. Take your ship, and your people, and [[DoNotGoGentle get your ass home home]] to that wife and those kids of yours. [[FourStarBadass Saganami]], clear."
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-->[[BadassBoast "There won't be six when we're done,"]] [[FourStarBadass Saganami]] said grimly, "and every one we destroy, or just cripple badly enough, [[DoNotGoGentle is one that won't be chasing you or another unit of the convoy.]] And now, I'm done arguing with you, James. Take your ship, and your people, and get your ass home to that wife and those kids of yours. Saganami, clear."
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-->[[BadassBoast "There won't be six when we're done,"]] [[FourStarBadass Saganami]] Saganami said grimly, "and every one we destroy, or just cripple badly enough, [[DoNotGoGentle is one that won't be chasing you or another unit of the convoy.]] And now, I'm done arguing with you, James. Take your ship, and your people, and get your ass home to that wife and those kids of yours. Saganami, [[FourStarBadass Saganami]], clear."
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--> "God damn it to Hell, Eddy!" Hargood exploded. "There are six of the bastards, including two ''battlecruisers!'' Just what the [[PrecisionFStrike what the fuck]] do you think you're going to accomplish? Unlike us, [[IWillOnlySlowYouDown Unlike us]], you've got the legs to stay away from them, so do it, damn it!]]"it!"
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--> "God damn it to Hell, Eddy!" Hargood exploded. "There are six of the bastards, including two ''battlecruisers!'' Just what the [[PrecisionFStrike fuck]] do you think you're going to accomplish? Unlike us, you've got the legs to stay away from them, so do it, damn it!"
-->[[BadassBoast "There won't be six when we're done,"]] [[FourStarBadass Saganami]] said grimly, "and every one we destroy, or just cripple badly enough, is one that won't be chasing you or another unit of the convoy. And now, I'm done arguing with you, James. Take your ship, and your people, and get your ass home to that wife and those kids of yours. Saganami, clear."
-->[[BadassBoast "There won't be six when we're done,"]] [[FourStarBadass Saganami]] said grimly, "and every one we destroy, or just cripple badly enough, is one that won't be chasing you or another unit of the convoy. And now, I'm done arguing with you, James. Take your ship, and your people, and get your ass home to that wife and those kids of yours. Saganami, clear."
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-->[[BadassBoast "There won't be six when we're done,"]] [[FourStarBadass Saganami]] said grimly, "and every one we destroy, or just cripple badly enough, is one that won't be chasing you or another unit of the convoy. And now, I'm done arguing with you, James. Take your ship, and your people, and get your ass home to that wife and those kids of yours. Saganami, clear."
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---> "We're done, James," Saganami said. His voice was hoarse, harsh with pain and the exhaustion of blood loss, yet his expression was almost calm. "Tell the Queen. [[DyingMomentOfAwesome Tell her what my people did.]] And tell her [[SorryThatImDying I'm]] [[KilledMidSentence sor—]]"
-->[[BadassBoast "There won't be six when we're done,"]] [[FourStarBadass Saganami]] said grimly, "and every one we destroy, or just cripple badly enough, is one that won't be chasing you or another unit of the convoy. And now, I'm done arguing with you, James. Take your ship, and your people, and get your ass home to that wife and those kids of yours. Saganami, clear."
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---> "We're done, James," Saganami said. His voice was hoarse, harsh with pain and the exhaustion of blood loss, yet his expression was almost calm. "Tell the Queen. [[DyingMomentOfAwesome Tell her what my people did.]] And tell her [[SorryThatImDying I'm]] [[KilledMidSentence sor—]]"
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** The destruction of [[spoiler:HMS ''Hexapuma'' during Oyster Bay. After everything that ship had been through... ''why'', Weber?? '''''WHY???''''']]
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** On the other side of the conflict in the same book, the death of [[spoiler:Javier Giscard]]. One of the most sympathetic Havenite officers, who's been around nearly the whole series, and who's just gone through ''so damn much'' and survived, only to die because of the resumption of a stupid war that he ''knows'' happened because of an engineered misunderstanding, and killed by [[spoiler:Honor herself, who had known him personally, and who ''also'' knew that the resumption of hostilities was on false premises, but can't do anything to stop it]]. All of it happening [[spoiler:when by all rights, Honor ''should'' have been home, watching her daughter be born]]. Seeing [[spoiler:his lover, Eloise Pritchart -- the unbreakable President of the Republic, who has faced down two corrupt regimes and two coups d'etat and come out on top, who along with Tom Theisman gave everything she had to bring back the true Republic that had lain in ashes for two hundred years --]] so ''broken'' afterward just makes it so much worse. StarCrossedLovers at its most heartbreaking -- his last word was her name.
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** On the other side of the conflict in the same book, the death of [[spoiler:Javier Giscard]]. One of the most sympathetic Havenite officers, who's been around nearly the whole series, and who's just gone through ''so damn much'' and survived, only to die because of the resumption of a stupid war that he ''knows'' happened because of an engineered misunderstanding, and killed by [[spoiler:Honor herself, who had known him personally, and who ''also'' knew that the resumption of hostilities was on false premises, but can't do anything to stop it]]. All of it happening [[spoiler:when by all rights, Honor ''should'' have been home, watching her daughter be born]]. Seeing [[spoiler:his lover, Eloise Pritchart -- the unbreakable President of the Republic, who has faced down two corrupt regimes and two coups d'etat and come out on top, who along with Tom Theisman gave everything she had to bring back the true Republic that had lain in ashes for two hundred years --]] so ''broken'' afterward just makes it so much worse. StarCrossedLovers at its Suffice it to say that of all the deaths in the whole series -- and good God, have there been a lot of them -- this one [[StarCrossedLovers might just be the most heartbreaking -- his last word was her name.heartbreaking]].
