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** One of the most important and poignant Aesops in all of Tolkien's works is that times change and that all things, no matter how good or beautiful, will someday end. The First Age of Middle-earth, a time of immense beauty and magic when the gods walked the earth, ended without ever coming again. The whole race of the elves is a testament to this Aesop. Because of their immortality, the elves wither away from grief and longing of the Undying Lands if they stay on Middle-earth too long. The mortality of humans is portrayed as a ''good thing'', because man is able to pass to a new world freely.

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** One of the most important and poignant Aesops in all of Tolkien's works is that times change and that all things, no matter how good or beautiful, will someday end. The First Age of Middle-earth, a time of immense beauty and magic when the gods walked the earth, ended without ever coming again. The whole race of the elves is a testament to this Aesop. Because of their immortality, the elves wither away from grief and longing of the Undying Lands if they stay on Middle-earth too long. The mortality of humans is portrayed as a ''good thing'', because man is able to pass to a new world freely. More so, the same applies to the Shire, in the Book at least. The Scouring of the Shire drops an anvil about the safety of Home and personal investment in a fight.
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** He says over and over again that just because something is a kid's movie, doesn't mean it has to be [[DarthWiki/SoBadItsHorrible worthless]] or [[TheyJustDidntCare have no effort put into it]]. Depending on how he much suffers in an episode, this can vary in desperation.

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** He says over and over again that just because something is a kid's movie, doesn't mean it has to be [[DarthWiki/SoBadItsHorrible worthless]] worthless or [[TheyJustDidntCare have no effort put into it]].it. Depending on how he much suffers in an episode, this can vary in desperation.
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** The Moulin Rogue review has "Even if I don't like the film, [[YourMilageMayVary maybe you do]], and neither of us are definitely wrong" as well as "GuiltyPleasures are nothing to be ashamed of."

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** The Moulin Rogue review has "Even if I don't like the film, [[YourMilageMayVary maybe you do]], do, and neither of us are definitely wrong" as well as "GuiltyPleasures are nothing to be ashamed of."
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** He says over and over again that just because something is a kid's movie, doesn't mean it has to be [[SoBadItsHorrible worthless]] or [[TheyJustDidntCare have no effort put into it]]. Depending on how he much suffers in an episode, this can vary in desperation.

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** He says over and over again that just because something is a kid's movie, doesn't mean it has to be [[SoBadItsHorrible [[DarthWiki/SoBadItsHorrible worthless]] or [[TheyJustDidntCare have no effort put into it]]. Depending on how he much suffers in an episode, this can vary in desperation.
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** He says over and over again that just because something is a kid's movie, doesn't mean it has to be worthless or [[TheyJustDidntCare have no effort put into it]]. Depending on how he much suffers in an episode, this can vary in desperation.

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** He says over and over again that just because something is a kid's movie, doesn't mean it has to be worthless [[SoBadItsHorrible worthless]] or [[TheyJustDidntCare have no effort put into it]]. Depending on how he much suffers in an episode, this can vary in desperation.
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** He says over and over again that just because something is a kid's movie, doesn't mean it has to be worthless or [[TheyJustDidn'tCare have no effort put into it]]. Depending on how he much suffers in an episode, this can vary in desperation.

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** He says over and over again that just because something is a kid's movie, doesn't mean it has to be worthless or [[TheyJustDidn'tCare [[TheyJustDidntCare have no effort put into it]]. Depending on how he much suffers in an episode, this can vary in desperation.
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** He says over and over again that just because something is a kid's movie, doesn't mean it has to be worthless or have no effort put into it. Depending on how he much suffers in an episode, this can vary in desperation.

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** He says over and over again that just because something is a kid's movie, doesn't mean it has to be worthless or [[TheyJustDidn'tCare have no effort put into it.it]]. Depending on how he much suffers in an episode, this can vary in desperation.
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* ''GrandiaII'' places a lot of emphasis on the importance of making one's own decisions. Throughout the game, Roan learns that following authority is not a way of living, Mareg teaches Tio to learn to be her own master instead of following orders, and Ryudo hammers it into Elena that even though they were playing into Pope Zera's hand the whole second half the quest, she is not a servant to anyone, not even the dead God of Light Granas or the returning [[GodOfEvil Valmar]]. And since that game was made in a country were the interests of the group is emphasized over those of the individual, this is one anvil that ''really'' needed to be dropped.

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* ''GrandiaII'' places a lot of emphasis on the importance of making one's own decisions. Throughout the game, Roan learns that following authority is not a way of living, Mareg teaches Tio to learn to be her own master instead of following orders, and Ryudo hammers it into Elena that even though they were playing into Pope Zera's hand the whole second half the quest, she is not a servant to anyone, not even the dead God of Light Granas or the returning [[GodOfEvil Valmar]]. And since that game was made in a country were the interests of the group is emphasized over those of the individual, this is one anvil that ''really'' especially needed to be dropped.dropped ''there''.
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* GrandiaII places a lot of emphasis on the importance of making one's own decisions. Throughout the game, Roan learns that following authority is not a way of living, Mareg teaches Tio to learn to be her own master instead of following orders, and Ryudo hammers it into Elena that even though they were playing into Pope Zera's hand the whole second half the quest, she is not a servant to anyone, not even the dead God of Light Granas or the returning [[GodOfEvil Valmar]]. And since that game was made in a country were the interests of the group is emphasized over those of the individual, this is one anvil that ''really'' needed to be dropped.

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* GrandiaII ''GrandiaII'' places a lot of emphasis on the importance of making one's own decisions. Throughout the game, Roan learns that following authority is not a way of living, Mareg teaches Tio to learn to be her own master instead of following orders, and Ryudo hammers it into Elena that even though they were playing into Pope Zera's hand the whole second half the quest, she is not a servant to anyone, not even the dead God of Light Granas or the returning [[GodOfEvil Valmar]]. And since that game was made in a country were the interests of the group is emphasized over those of the individual, this is one anvil that ''really'' needed to be dropped.
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* GrandiaII places a lot of emphasis on the importance of making one's own decisions. Throughout the game, Roan learns that following authority is not a way of living, Mareg teaches Tio to learn to be her own master instead of following orders, and Ryudo hammers it into Elena that even though they were playing into Pope Zera's hand the whole second half the quest, she is not a servant to anyone, not even the dead God of Light Granas or the returning [[GodOfEvil Valmar]]. And since that game was made in a country were the interests of the group is emphasized over those of the individual, this is one anvil that ''really'' needed to be dropped.
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* ''Disclosure'': No, ''[[RapeIsOkayWhenItsFemaleOnMale rape is not okay when it's a woman on man]]''. Not even if the woman is his ex-flame and the man is a reputed horn dog.

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* ''Disclosure'': No, ''[[RapeIsOkayWhenItsFemaleOnMale ''[[DoubleStandardRapeFemaleOnMale rape is not okay when it's a woman on man]]''. Not even if the woman is his ex-flame and the man is a reputed horn dog.
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** And that it's an extremely scary thing that the generation that has seen the horrors of nuclear weapons being used against people is dying off, because humanity may forget how terrible they really are and use them in the next war.
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* ''{{Pokemon}}'', especially Gold and Silver, can get pretty {{Anvilicious}} about taking care of your Pokemon and treating them like friends, rather than tools, but it's a message that people need to learn, whether you are talking about people or animals.
** There's also some subtext that no one, no matter how cruel or mean they are, is beyond redemption if they truly do mean it -- Silver, Maxie and Archie, and especially N are all primary villains that reform when they realize the error of their ways. And of course, Pokemon too are individuals, and many are probably just {{Punch Clock Villain}}s that are simply following the orders of their trainers. The aesop gets a bit broken in later Generations, where the leaders of Team Galactic and Team Plasma don't reform, and [[spoiler:we find out Giovanni, who since the very first games was implied to go off and try to live a peaceful life after being defeated, never learned his lesson either]].
** There's some environmental/animal rights messages too, with many people preaching that truly good trainers live in peace and harmony with Pokemon, while the evil teams are universally said to exploit and abuse Pokemon for their own ends. Some things (Legendary Pokemon) are best left to nature to govern, and trying to control them will only lead to disaster. This message was actually the focus of ''Black and White'' -- Team Plasma believes that humans and Pokemon cannot co-exist and wish to create separate worlds for them, and leader N was influenced by being raised among abused and abandoned Pokemon.

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* ''{{Pokemon}}'', ''Pokémon'', especially Gold and Silver, ''VideoGame/PokemonGoldAndSilver'', can get pretty {{Anvilicious}} about taking care of your Pokemon Pokémon and treating them like friends, rather than tools, but it's a message that people need to learn, whether you are talking about people or animals.
** There's also some subtext that no one, no matter how cruel or mean they are, is beyond redemption if they truly do mean it -- Silver, Maxie and Archie, and especially N are all primary villains that reform when they realize the error of their ways. And of course, Pokemon Pokémon too are individuals, and many are probably just {{Punch Clock Villain}}s that are simply following the orders of their trainers. The aesop gets a bit broken in later Generations, where the leaders of Team Galactic and Team Plasma don't reform, and [[spoiler:we find out Giovanni, who since the very first games was implied to go off and try to live a peaceful life after being defeated, never learned his lesson either]].
** There's some environmental/animal rights messages too, with many people preaching that truly good trainers live in peace and harmony with Pokemon, Pokémon, while the evil teams are universally said to exploit and abuse Pokemon Pokémon for their own ends. Some things (Legendary Pokemon) Pokémon) are best left to nature to govern, and trying to control them will only lead to disaster. This message was actually the focus of ''Black and White'' -- Team Plasma believes that humans and Pokemon Pokémon cannot co-exist and wish to create separate worlds for them, and leader N was influenced by being raised among abused and abandoned Pokemon.Pokémon.
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*** Hell, Nichols entire ''character'' is an Anvil That Needed To Be Dropped, since it was so uncommon at the time for both women and black people to be portrayed on television in roles with authority. Her character inspired WhoopeeGoldberg and LevarBurton into acting.

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*** Hell, Nichols entire ''character'' is an Anvil That Needed To Be Dropped, since it was so uncommon at the time for both women and black people to be portrayed on television in roles with authority. Her character inspired WhoopeeGoldberg WhoopiGoldberg and LevarBurton into acting.
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** The first really ''big'' anvil came in the episode "Abysinnia, Henry": '''AnybodyCanDie'''. And they didn't even rely on just the force of gravity to drop it, either.

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** The first really ''big'' anvil came in the episode "Abysinnia, Henry": '''AnybodyCanDie'''. And they didn't even rely on just the force of gravity to drop it, either.
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*** Hell, Nichols entire ''character'' is an Anvil That Needed To Be Dropped, since it was so uncommon at the time for both women and black people to be portrayed on television in roles with authority. Her character inspired WhoopeeGoldberg and LevarBurton into acting.
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* The AmericanDad episode about gay people adopting. Sure, the episode isn't as sentimental as the other episodes listed here but it's nice to have an episode come out more-or-less right after Prop 8 which, if the Prop 8 supperters got what they wanted, would've resulted in thousands of adopted being taken away from loving homes.

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* The AmericanDad ''WesternAnimation/AmericanDad'' episode about gay people adopting. Sure, the episode isn't as sentimental as the other episodes listed here but it's nice to have an episode come out more-or-less right after Prop 8 which, if the Prop 8 supperters got what they wanted, would've resulted in thousands of adopted being taken away from loving homes.

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** A missed but important one for Ponyville Confidential: Everypony contributed to the gossip column by buying the paper to see others humiliated. They have no one to blame but themselves for their secrets coming out because everypony wanted to see them embarrassed.
*** It's also a ''scathing'' Satire on Tabloid Newspapers in general, how easily and willingly their editors can bend their crew to their will, how they are willing to go to Murdoch-ian levels to get their way, and how, as shown in the "shun" sequence (which is the most critisized aspect of this episode for reasons I'm about to explain) the public is so willing to turn a blind eye to the publishers, allowing to get away with it.

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** A missed but important one for Ponyville Confidential: Everypony contributed to the gossip column by buying the paper to see others humiliated. They have no one to blame but themselves for their secrets coming out because everypony wanted to see them embarrassed.
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embarrassed. It's also a ''scathing'' Satire on Tabloid Newspapers in general, how easily and willingly their editors can bend their crew to their will, how they are willing to go to Murdoch-ian levels to get their way, and how, as shown in the "shun" sequence (which is the most critisized aspect of this episode for reasons I'm about to explain) sequence, the public is so willing to turn a blind eye to the publishers, allowing to get away with it.
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* {{REM}}'s lyrics are usually very cryptic, but ''Everybody Hurts'' is so plainly expressed that it might as well be being spoken directly to someone who's contemplating suicide. The message: [[YouAreNotAlone You are not alone]], however much it may feel like it. Most of humanity will have been depressed at some point, and there are people who are willing to help and don't want you to end your life.
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*** It's also a ''scathing'' Satire on Tabloid Newspapers in general, how easily and willingly their editors can bend their crew to their will, how they are willing to go to Murdoch-ian levels to get their way, and how, as shown in the "shun" sequence (which is the most critisized aspect of this episode for reasons I'm about to explain) the public is so willing to turn a blind eye to the publishers, allowing to get away with it.
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** A missed but important one for Ponyville Confidential: Everypony contributed to the gossip column by buying the paper to see others humiliated. They have no one to blame but themselves for their secrets coming out because everypony wanted to see them embarrassed.
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* All of the {{Oddworld}} games focus on horrifying effects of people putting personal gain, capitalism, and social status before morality, as all the [[PlayerCharacters player characters]] are on the losing end of that compromise. They typically have a GreenAesop complimenting this theme, as well.
* The ''FalloutNewVegas'' add-ons ''all'' revolve around moving on and accepting the past.

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* All of the {{Oddworld}} ''VideoGame/{{Oddworld}}'' games focus on horrifying effects of people putting personal gain, capitalism, and social status before morality, as all the [[PlayerCharacters player characters]] are on the losing end of that compromise. They typically have a GreenAesop complimenting this theme, as well.
* The ''FalloutNewVegas'' ''VideoGame/FalloutNewVegas'' add-ons ''all'' revolve around moving on and accepting the past.
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I hope that someday you will stop and realize

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I hope that someday you will stop and realizerealize\\

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I hope that someday you will stop and realize why do many kids have died''

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I hope that someday you will stop and realize realize
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why do so many kids have died''
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* JohnSteinbeck's ''Literature/TheGrapesOfWrath''. Lots of anvils, many of which needed dropping.

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%% * JohnSteinbeck's ''Literature/TheGrapesOfWrath''. Lots of anvils, many of which needed dropping.
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* The PowerMetal band Metal Church dropped many anvils during their time with Mike Howe as singer (1989-94) but none so effectively as "In Mourning" and "In Harm's Way" off of ''The Human Factor''. All children need to be given love, guidance, and a stable family, and that the lack of these is what causes school shootings, suicide, and other childhood tragedies.
-->''Maybe if you'd listen than you'd know what I just said\\
If you think the words I'm singing are why your kids are dead\\
Maybe could it be that no one was there to hear\\
Did you pay attention to their angers and their fears?\\
You're trying to find someone to blame who can't be put on trial\\
The enemy you're looking for is laughing all the while\\
I mourn for those who have been so deceived\\
You know the last words that they spoke were "Who loves me?"\\
I hope that someday you will stop and realize why do many kids have died''
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* JohnSteinbeck's ''TheGrapesOfWrath''. Lots of anvils, many of which needed dropping.

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* JohnSteinbeck's ''TheGrapesOfWrath''.''Literature/TheGrapesOfWrath''. Lots of anvils, many of which needed dropping.

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