History SoYouWantTo / WriteAFilmNoir

26th Feb '17 10:34:16 AM nombretomado
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''"{{Chase Scene}}s are nice and simple," Bob said. "There was even a HallOfMirrors scene in ''The Lady from Shanghai'' which was great. Fight scenes, however, tend to be like [[HobbesWasRight Hobbes']] philosophy of human nature: nasty, short, and brutal. Like [[HumphreyBogart Bogart]] said, they'll beat your teeth in and then [[KickThemWhileTheyAreDown kick you in the stomach for mumbling.]]"''

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''"{{Chase Scene}}s are nice and simple," Bob said. "There was even a HallOfMirrors scene in ''The Lady from Shanghai'' which was great. Fight scenes, however, tend to be like [[HobbesWasRight Hobbes']] philosophy of human nature: nasty, short, and brutal. Like [[HumphreyBogart [[Creator/HumphreyBogart Bogart]] said, they'll beat your teeth in and then [[KickThemWhileTheyAreDown kick you in the stomach for mumbling.]]"''
21st Dec '16 3:49:01 PM Discar
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-->''"But down these mean streets a man must go who is not himself mean, who is neither tarnished nor afraid. The detective in this kind of story must be such a man. He is the hero, he is everything. He must be a complete man and a common man and yet an unusual man. He must be, to use a rather weathered phrase, a man of honor, by instinct, by inevitability, without thought of it, and certainly without saying it. He must be [[OnlySaneMan the best man in his world]] and a good enough man for any world. I do not care much about his private life; he is [[AManIsNotAVirgin neither a eunuch]] [[ChasteHero nor a satyr]]; I think he might seduce a duchess and I am quite sure he would not spoil a virgin; if he is a man of honor in one thing, he is that in all things. He is a relatively poor man, or he would not be a detective at all. He is a common man or he could not go among common people. He has a sense of character, or he would not know his job. He will take no man's money dishonestly and no man's insolence without a due and dispassionate revenge. [[IWorkAlone He is a lonely man]] and his pride is that you will treat him as a proud man or be very sorry you ever saw him. He talks as the man of his age talks, that is, with rude wit, a lively sense of the grotesque, a disgust for sham, and a contempt for pettiness. The story is his adventure in search of a hidden truth, and it would be no adventure if it did not happen to a man fit for adventure. He has a range of awareness that startles you, but it belongs to him by right, because it belongs to the world he lives in.''\\

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-->''"But down these mean streets a man must go who is not himself mean, who is neither tarnished nor afraid. The detective in this kind of story must be such a man. He is the hero, he is everything. He must be a complete man and a common man and yet an unusual man. He must be, to use a rather weathered phrase, a man of honor, by instinct, by inevitability, without thought of it, and certainly without saying it. He must be [[OnlySaneMan the best man in his world]] and a good enough man for any world. I do not care much about his private life; he is [[AManIsNotAVirgin neither a eunuch]] eunuch [[ChasteHero nor a satyr]]; I think he might seduce a duchess and I am quite sure he would not spoil a virgin; if he is a man of honor in one thing, he is that in all things. He is a relatively poor man, or he would not be a detective at all. He is a common man or he could not go among common people. He has a sense of character, or he would not know his job. He will take no man's money dishonestly and no man's insolence without a due and dispassionate revenge. [[IWorkAlone He is a lonely man]] and his pride is that you will treat him as a proud man or be very sorry you ever saw him. He talks as the man of his age talks, that is, with rude wit, a lively sense of the grotesque, a disgust for sham, and a contempt for pettiness. The story is his adventure in search of a hidden truth, and it would be no adventure if it did not happen to a man fit for adventure. He has a range of awareness that startles you, but it belongs to him by right, because it belongs to the world he lives in.''\\
1st Nov '16 9:25:18 AM Morgenthaler
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''"Glad you asked," Bob said. "There's a tendency to go overboard with the AntiHero - you know, make him so {{badass}} that he scares criminals into talking and all that. The AntiHero should be a man - just a man, like Chandler said - not a MarySue with [[{{Wangst}} the angst]] piled on."''

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''"Glad you asked," Bob said. "There's a tendency to go overboard with the AntiHero - you know, make him so {{badass}} badass that he scares criminals into talking and all that. The AntiHero should be a man - just a man, like Chandler said - not a MarySue with [[{{Wangst}} the angst]] piled on."''
17th Feb '16 10:45:50 AM n341100
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''BOOM!!!''

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''BOOM!!!''
''BANG!!!''
1st Jan '16 8:08:01 PM nombretomado
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''"I do have to mention, though, that both ''Series/{{Charmed}}'' and ''{{Smallville}}'' did a NoirEpisode. They did TheThemeParkVersion and were generally considered horrible. ''{{Moonlighting}}'''s noir episode, however, is considered especially good, with a cameo by Orson Welles himself."''


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''"I do have to mention, though, that both ''Series/{{Charmed}}'' and ''{{Smallville}}'' ''Series/{{Smallville}}'' did a NoirEpisode. They did TheThemeParkVersion and were generally considered horrible. ''{{Moonlighting}}'''s ''Series/{{Moonlighting}}'''s noir episode, however, is considered especially good, with a cameo by Orson Welles himself."''

21st Sep '15 9:55:05 PM nombretomado
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''"[[GrumpyOldMan Ah these kids and them new-fangled videogames]]," Bob [[GrumpyBear grumbled like a bear woken up three weeks too early.]] "Well if you want videogames, I'd suggest the VideoGame/MaxPayne series. Yeah, I know what made it sell was that BulletTime stuff, but it's seen as the best modern example of noir in the genre. Besides, any story that combines [[NorseMythology Ragnarok, Valkyries, and other such Norse lore]] with a solid noir pedigree and [[PrivateEyeMonologue metaphors]] that all go down smoother than a 12-year whiskey? Kudos to Remedy for bottling lightning."''

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''"[[GrumpyOldMan Ah these kids and them new-fangled videogames]]," Bob [[GrumpyBear grumbled like a bear woken up three weeks too early.]] "Well if you want videogames, I'd suggest the VideoGame/MaxPayne series. Yeah, I know what made it sell was that BulletTime stuff, but it's seen as the best modern example of noir in the genre. Besides, any story that combines [[NorseMythology [[Myth/NorseMythology Ragnarok, Valkyries, and other such Norse lore]] with a solid noir pedigree and [[PrivateEyeMonologue metaphors]] that all go down smoother than a 12-year whiskey? Kudos to Remedy for bottling lightning."''
13th Aug '15 5:09:19 PM ANTMuddle
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''"Well, damn," he said. "[[GenreSavvy I shoulda seen that coming]]."''

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''"Well, damn," he said. said, pulling out his own pistol and pointing it at her. "[[GenreSavvy I shoulda seen figured that coming]]."''
was comin']]."''

''BOOM!!!''
2nd May '15 8:28:46 PM nombretomado
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''"Yes; I'll admit, it's a parody of the Noir genre, but listening to this style on the radio can really show you a whole new dimension to your usual setup. And another buddy of mine is [[http://rogueking.com/life/calvin-hobbes-tracer-bullet Tracer Bullet]]. He's retired now, sad to say, but he used to appear in [[CalvinAndHobbes a newspaper comic drawn by a guy named Bill Watterson.]] You heard of him?"''

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''"Yes; I'll admit, it's a parody of the Noir genre, but listening to this style on the radio can really show you a whole new dimension to your usual setup. And another buddy of mine is [[http://rogueking.com/life/calvin-hobbes-tracer-bullet Tracer Bullet]]. He's retired now, sad to say, but he used to appear in [[CalvinAndHobbes [[ComicStrip/CalvinAndHobbes a newspaper comic drawn by a guy named Bill Watterson.]] You heard of him?"''
19th Apr '15 11:16:07 PM nombretomado
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''"Besides the AntiHero and the FemmeFatale," Bob said, "there are plenty of other characters you can add. TheMafia's a nice choice. Sometimes there are two {{Femme Fatale}}s - there's the good one, who often comes around to the AntiHero's side, and TheVamp, who sometimes dies by the AntiHero's hands and sometimes gets away [[KarmaHoudini scott clean]]. You can also add TheIngenue to provide a nice contrast with the FemmeFatale. There's also the ConMan and the CorruptHick - oftentimes [[DirtyCop a sheriff or police chief.]] If you're doing it [[CityOfSpies in a particular setting]], [[ColdWar like Germany or Russia]], you can also include ThoseWackyNazis and DirtyCommunists."''

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''"Besides the AntiHero and the FemmeFatale," Bob said, "there are plenty of other characters you can add. TheMafia's a nice choice. Sometimes there are two {{Femme Fatale}}s - there's the good one, who often comes around to the AntiHero's side, and TheVamp, who sometimes dies by the AntiHero's hands and sometimes gets away [[KarmaHoudini scott clean]]. You can also add TheIngenue to provide a nice contrast with the FemmeFatale. There's also the ConMan and the CorruptHick - oftentimes [[DirtyCop a sheriff or police chief.]] If you're doing it [[CityOfSpies in a particular setting]], [[ColdWar [[UsefulNotes/ColdWar like Germany or Russia]], you can also include ThoseWackyNazis and DirtyCommunists."''
20th Aug '14 5:03:00 PM idiodabble
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''He stopped in thought for a second before slapping his hand to his face. "I forgot!" he continued hurriedly "There was a CosmicHorrorStory Noir Game. Discworld Noir. One of those Point and Click ones." He stubbed out his cigarette into the dirty ashtray. "Came out pretty well, although you'd need to know the series to get the most out of it. Can't really forget one more, ''VideoGame/LANoire''."''

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''He stopped in thought for a second before slapping his hand to his face. "I forgot!" he continued hurriedly "There was a CosmicHorrorStory Noir Game. Discworld Noir. One of those Point and Click ones." He stubbed out his cigarette into the dirty ashtray. "Came out pretty well, although you'd need to know the series to get the most out of it. Can't really forget one more, ''VideoGame/LANoire''.Of course there's the aptly-named ''VideoGame/LANoire''. And then there's [[VideoGame/TheWolfAmongUs the Wolf Among Us]], which is great if you want an investigator whose done as much [[TheBigBadWolf bad]] as good. "''
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