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* AdaptationVillainy: Longinus actually became a saint after stabbing Jesus, since it was an act of mercy, not evil.
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* AdaptationVillainy: AdaptationalVillainy: Longinus actually became a saint after stabbing Jesus, since it was an act of mercy, not evil.
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* AdaptationVillainy: Longinus actually became a saint after stabbing Jesus, since it was an act of mercy, not evil.
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* AshFace: Possibly the only instance of this being PlayedForDrama: an episode concerning the creation of explosives has Longinus hijack it all in the hopes that it can destroy him; after the explosion he wakes up with this trope and a BigNo.
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''Series/{{Roar}}'' was a short-lived FOX network show from 1997, the brain-child of ''HardyBoys'' alum Shaun Cassidy.
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* FollowTheLeader: Created in an attempt to ride the fan-wave of ''HerculesTheLegendaryJourneys'' and ''XenaWarriorPrincess''.
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* FollowTheLeader: Created in an attempt to ride the fan-wave of ''HerculesTheLegendaryJourneys'' ''Series/HerculesTheLegendaryJourneys'' and ''XenaWarriorPrincess''.''Series/XenaWarriorPrincess''.
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* YouFailPhysicsForever: In "Projector", the Romans get hold of some gunpowder and build a cannon. They load it by placing a gunpowder-filled grenade in the mouth of the cannon and lighting the fuse. Great way to blow your cannon to bits.
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* YouFailPhysicsForever: ArtisticLicensePhysics: In "Projector", the Romans get hold of some gunpowder and build a cannon. They load it by placing a gunpowder-filled grenade in the mouth of the cannon and lighting the fuse. Great way to blow your cannon to bits.
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* ChuckCunninghamSyndrome: Glas's mother. Where was she when [[spoiler:Glas is murdered]]?
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* ChuckCunninghamSyndrome: ChuckCunninghamSyndrome:
** Glas's mother. Where was she when [[spoiler:Glas is murdered]]?
** Glas's mother. Where was she when [[spoiler:Glas is murdered]]?
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* LadyInRed and WomanInBlack: Diana, reflecting her manipulative, seductive persona.
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* LadyInRed and WomanInBlack: LadyInRed: Diana, reflecting her manipulative, seductive persona.
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Conor (Creator/HeathLedger), a young Irish warrior, is trying to unite 4th century Ireland against the invading Romans. Longinus, leading the Romans, is secretly the cursed-to-be-immortal centurion who stabbed Christ at Calvary. The show freely mixed Christian tradition, CelticMythology, Druidism, and, barely, smatterings of history. And then there's the Roar. What the heck ''is'' the 'Roar'? Did anybody ever figure it out?
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Conor (Creator/HeathLedger), a young Irish warrior, is trying to unite 4th century Ireland against the invading Romans. Longinus, leading the Romans, is secretly the cursed-to-be-immortal centurion who stabbed Christ at Calvary. The show freely mixed Christian tradition, CelticMythology, Myth/CelticMythology, Druidism, and, barely, smatterings of history. And then there's the Roar. What the heck ''is'' the 'Roar'? Did anybody ever figure it out?
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* DespairEventHorizon: When Longinus loses the Spear of Destiny to Conor and realizes that he's doomed to live forever.
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* DespairEventHorizon: When Longinus loses the Spear of Destiny TheSpearOfDestiny to Conor and realizes that he's doomed to live forever.
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* EvilWeapon: [[PublicDomainArtifact The Lance of Longinus (a/k/a "The Spear of Destiny")]].
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* EvilWeapon: [[PublicDomainArtifact [[TheSpearOfDestiny The Lance of Longinus (a/k/a "The Spear of Destiny")]].
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* PublicDomainArtifact: The Lance of Longinus.
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* TokenMinority: Tully, in one of the [[UnfortunateImplications most unfortunate examples]] of this trope considering he has few lines, little in the way of personality, and virtually no purpose in the StoryArc at all.
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* TokenMinority: Tully, in one of the [[UnfortunateImplications most unfortunate examples]] of this trope considering he has few lines, little in the way of personality, and virtually no purpose in the StoryArc at all.Tully.
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Conor (Creator/HeathLedger), a young Irish warrior, is trying to unite 4th century Ireland against the invading Romans. Longinus, leading the Romans, is secretly the cursed-to-be-immortal centurion who stabbed Christ at Calvary. The show freely mixed Christian tradition, CelticMythology, Druidism, and, barely, smatterings of history. And then there's the Roar. What the heck ''is'' the 'Roar'? Did anybody ever figure it out?
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* BatmanGambit: "The Cage"
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* BatmanGambit: "The Cage"Cage".
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* CaliforniaDoubling: Filmed in Queensland, Australia - leading to the amusing sight of gum trees and the sound of kookaburras in Ireland.
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* CaliforniaDoubling: Filmed in Queensland, Australia - leading Australia-leading to the amusing sight of gum trees and the sound of kookaburras in Ireland.
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* DeadpanSnarker: Diana
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* DeadpanSnarker: DianaDiana.
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* DreamingOfThingsToCome: Longinus, though he's wide awake when he has his prophetic visions. Also notable is the sheer ''span'' of his visions--when experimenting with rudimentary dynamite, he has flashes of nuclear weapons.
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* DreamingOfThingsToCome: Longinus, though he's wide awake when he has his prophetic visions. Also notable is the sheer ''span'' of his visions--when visions-when experimenting with rudimentary dynamite, he has flashes of nuclear weapons.
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* EvilWeapon: [[PublicDomainArtifact The Lance of Longinus (a/k/a "The Spear of Destiny")]]
* FakeIrish
* FascinatingEyebrow: Fergus, on occasion
* FieryRedhead: Vorgeen
* FakeIrish
* FascinatingEyebrow: Fergus, on occasion
* FieryRedhead: Vorgeen
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* EvilWeapon: [[PublicDomainArtifact The Lance of Longinus (a/k/a "The Spear of Destiny")]]
* FakeIrish
Destiny")]].
* FascinatingEyebrow: Fergus, onoccasion
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** TheChick: Catlin
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** TheSmartGuy: Galen
** TheBigGuy: Tully
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** TheHero: Conor
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** TheLancer:Fergus
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** TheSmartGuy:Galen
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** TheBigGuy:Tully
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** TheChick:CatlinCatlin.
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* FriendToAllChildren: Fergus
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* FriendToAllChildren: FergusFergus.
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* HeterosexualLifePartners: Conor and Fergus
* HeyItsThatGuy: [[Series/BabylonFive Marcus Cole]] as a Roman General, [[Series/{{Angel}} Virginia Bryce]] (Wesley's second season girlfriend) as a Banshee, [[HomeandAway Hayley]] as a young Catlin, [[DesperateHousewives Mary Alice Young]] as Fergus's childhood friend...
* InevitableWaterfall: In "Doyle's Solution"
* InfantImmortality: Averted.
* HeyItsThatGuy: [[Series/BabylonFive Marcus Cole]] as a Roman General, [[Series/{{Angel}} Virginia Bryce]] (Wesley's second season girlfriend) as a Banshee, [[HomeandAway Hayley]] as a young Catlin, [[DesperateHousewives Mary Alice Young]] as Fergus's childhood friend...
* InevitableWaterfall: In "Doyle's Solution"
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* HeterosexualLifePartners: Conor and Fergus
* HeyItsThatGuy: [[Series/BabylonFive Marcus Cole]] as a Roman General, [[Series/{{Angel}} Virginia Bryce]] (Wesley's second season girlfriend) as a Banshee, [[HomeandAway Hayley]] as a young Catlin, [[DesperateHousewives Mary Alice Young]] as Fergus's childhood friend...
Fergus.
* InevitableWaterfall: In "Doyle'sSolution"
Solution".
* InfantImmortality:Averted.{{Averted}}.
* HeyItsThatGuy: [[Series/BabylonFive Marcus Cole]] as a Roman General, [[Series/{{Angel}} Virginia Bryce]] (Wesley's second season girlfriend) as a Banshee, [[HomeandAway Hayley]] as a young Catlin, [[DesperateHousewives Mary Alice Young]] as Fergus's childhood friend...
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* KilledOffForReal: [[spoiler:Glas]]
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* KilledOffForReal: [[spoiler:Glas]][[spoiler:Glas.]]
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* WouldHitAGirl: Conor gets in a tussle with a woman chieftain - though it's clear he's holding back a little.
* WouldHurtAChild: Longinus
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* WouldHitAGirl: Conor gets in a tussle with a woman chieftain - though chieftain-though it's clear he's holding back a little.
* WouldHurtAChild:LonginusLonginus.
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* DisposableWoman: Clare. Played by a young Keri Russell, the writers soon realized their mistake and kept trying to find ways of bringing her back.
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* DisposableWoman: Clare. Played by a young Keri Russell, Creator/KeriRussell, the writers soon realized their mistake and kept trying to find ways of bringing her back.
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* YouFailPhysicsForever: In "Projector", the Romans get hold of some gunpowder and build a cannon. They load it by placing a gunpowder-filled grenade in the mouth of the cannon and lighting the fuse. Great way to blow your cannon to bits.
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* TheArcher: Catlin
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Conor (HeathLedger), (Creator/HeathLedger), a young Irish warrior, is trying to unite 4th century Ireland against the invading Romans. Longinus, leading the Romans, is secretly the cursed-to-be-immortal centurion who stabbed Christ at Calvary. The show freely mixed Christian tradition, CelticMythology, Druidism, and, barely, smatterings of history. And then there's the Roar. What heck ''is'' the 'Roar'? Did anybody ever figure it out?
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* HeyItsThatGuy: [[{{Babylon5}} Marcus Cole]] as a Roman General, [[Series/{{Angel}} Virginia Bryce]] (Wesley's second season girlfriend) as a Banshee, [[HomeandAway Hayley]] as a young Catlin, [[DesperateHousewives Mary Alice Young]] as Fergus's childhood friend...
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* HeyItsThatGuy: [[{{Babylon5}} [[Series/BabylonFive Marcus Cole]] as a Roman General, [[Series/{{Angel}} Virginia Bryce]] (Wesley's second season girlfriend) as a Banshee, [[HomeandAway Hayley]] as a young Catlin, [[DesperateHousewives Mary Alice Young]] as Fergus's childhood friend...
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* AffablyEvil: Diana remains polite and regal throughout her dealings with the Celts (most of the time).
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* HeyItsThatGuy: [[{{Babylon5}} Marcus Cole]] as a Roman General, [[{{Angel}} [[Series/{{Angel}} Virginia Bryce]] (Wesley's second season girlfriend) as a Banshee, [[HomeandAway Hayley]] as a young Catlin, [[DesperateHousewives Mary Alice Young]] as Fergus's childhood friend...
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** Catlin too when [[spoiler:Shannon is shot. See LesYay below]].
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** Catlin too when [[spoiler:Shannon is shot. See LesYay below]].]]
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* CriticalResearchFailure: Leaving aside the fact the Romans never got as far as Ireland - in fact Ireland was raiding Great Britain in the 4th century - Longinus was a Good Guy in Christian mythology!
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* [[HeyItsThatGuy Hey, It's That Guy]]: HeyItsThatGuy: [[{{Babylon5}} Marcus Cole]] as a Roman General, [[{{Angel}} Virginia Bryce]] (Wesley's second season girlfriend) as a Banshee, [[HomeandAway Hayley]] as a young Catlin, [[DesperateHousewives Mary Alice Young]] as Fergus's childhood friend...
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* CriticalResearchFailure: Leaving aside the fact the Romans never got as far as Ireland - in fact Ireland was raiding Great Britain in the 4th century - Longinus was a Good Guy in Christian mythology!
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* DidNotDoTheResearch: Longinus is a villain here, but according to Christian tradition, he was a convert to Christianity shortly after the crucifixion of Jesus. He's also venerated as a saint by some denominations--this was at least {{lampshaded}} in "Red Boot", in which Longinus tells Diana: "They haven't made a saint of me...yet."
** Not only did Rome never conquer Ireland, it never even tried. And for that matter Rome was pretty much caput by the 4th c. Far from being victims of oppression the Irish of the period were merrily raiding Great Britain for slaves and loot. One of their victims was St. Patrick who flourished in this time period and doesn't get so much as a mention.
** Not only did Rome never conquer Ireland, it never even tried. And for that matter Rome was pretty much caput by the 4th c. Far from being victims of oppression the Irish of the period were merrily raiding Great Britain for slaves and loot. One of their victims was St. Patrick who flourished in this time period and doesn't get so much as a mention.
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* SmallNameBigEgo: Diana, at least until the second to last episode, in which she pulls off a magnificent [[ThePlan plan.]]
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* TedBaxter: Diana, at least until the second to last episode, in which she pulls off a magnificent [[ThePlan plan.]]
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* BestHerToBedHer: It would seem Vorgeen was this, as Tully tells Conor mid-fight that she won't agree to unite the tribes unless he beats her in combat.
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* BestHerToBedHer: It Minus the "bedding" part, it would seem Vorgeen was this, as Tully tells Conor mid-fight that she won't agree to unite the tribes unless he beats her in combat.
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Conor (HeathLedger), a young Irish warrior, is trying to unite 4th century Ireland against the invading Romans. Longinus, leading the Romans, is secretly the cursed-to-be-immortal centurion who stabbed Christ at Calvary. The show freely mixed Christian mythology, tradition, CelticMythology, Druidism, and, barely, smatterings of history. And then there's the Roar. What heck ''is'' the 'Roar'? Did anybody ever figure it out?
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* AndIMustScream: [[spoiler: Longinus' eventual fate]]
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* AndIMustScream: [[spoiler: Longinus' eventual fate]]fate.]]
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* BewareTheNiceOnes: Conor and Catlin are both friendly, easy-going people - but when they get mad...
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* DarkSecret: Catlin [[spoiler:is a Christian]]. Was This was a big deal back then.
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** This was at least {{lampshaded}} in "Red Boot", in which Longinus tells Diana: "They haven't made a saint of me...yet."
** Not to mention the fact that not only did Rome never conquer Ireland, it never even tried. And for that matter Rome was pretty much caput by the 4th c. Far from being victims of oppression the Irish of the period were merrily raiding Great Britain for slaves and loot. One of their victims was St. Patrick who flourished in this time period and doesn't get so much as a mention.
** This was at least {{lampshaded}} in "Red Boot", in which Longinus tells Diana: "They haven't made a saint of me...yet."
** Not to mention the fact that not only did Rome never conquer Ireland, it never even tried. And for that matter Rome was pretty much caput by the 4th c. Far from being victims of oppression the Irish of the period were merrily raiding Great Britain for slaves and loot. One of their victims was St. Patrick who flourished in this time period and doesn't get so much as a mention.
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* DidNotDoTheResearch: Longinus, rather than being Longinus is a villainous figure in villain here, but according to Christian mythology, is now a saint - as mentioned in TheBible, tradition, he immediately converts was a convert to Christianity upon stabbing Jesus.
** Thisshortly after the crucifixion of Jesus. He's also venerated as a saint by some denominations--this was at least {{lampshaded}} in "Red Boot", in which Longinus tells Diana: "They haven't made a saint of me...yet."
** Notto mention the fact that not only did Rome never conquer Ireland, it never even tried. And for that matter Rome was pretty much caput by the 4th c. Far from being victims of oppression the Irish of the period were merrily raiding Great Britain for slaves and loot. One of their victims was St. Patrick who flourished in this time period and doesn't get so much as a mention.
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* DreamingOfThingsToCome: Longinus, though he's wide awake when he has his prophetic visions. Also notable is the sheer ''span'' of his visions - when experimenting with rudimentary dynamite, he has flashes of nuclear weapons.
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* DreamingOfThingsToCome: Longinus, though he's wide awake when he has his prophetic visions. Also notable is the sheer ''span'' of his visions - when visions--when experimenting with rudimentary dynamite, he has flashes of nuclear weapons.
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* InfantImmortality: averted
* InTheHood: The Druids
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* ParentalIncest: Done briefly, when Fergus is initally quite attracted to Molly before he realizes that she's his daughter. It's hinted that the attraction only stemmed from her resemblance to his wife. Later he leers at her naked body behind a veil before realizing that it's Molly.
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* ParentalIncest: Done briefly, when Fergus is initally initially quite attracted to Molly before he realizes that she's his daughter. It's hinted that the attraction only stemmed from her resemblance to his wife. Later he leers at her naked body behind a veil before realizing that it's Molly.
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* BestHerToBedHer: It would seem Vorgeen was this, as Tully tells Conor mid-fight that she won't agree to unite the tribes unless he beats her in combat.
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* TheRedSonja: It would seem Vorgeen was this, as Tully tells Conor mid-fight that she won't agree to unite the tribes unless he beats her in combat.
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* LesYay: Catlin and Shannon only get two scenes together, but they're more than enough to qualify for LesYay.
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* TedBaxter: Diana, at least until the second to last episode, in which she pulls off a magnificent XanatosGambit.
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* TedBaxter: Diana, at least until the second to last episode, in which she pulls off a magnificent XanatosGambit.[[ThePlan plan.]]
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Conor (HeathLedger), a young Irish warrior, is trying to unite 4th century Ireland against the invading Romans. Longinus, leading the Romans, is secretly the cursed-to-be-immortal centurion who stabbed Christ at Calvary. The show freely mixed Christian mythology, CelticMythology, Druidism, and, barely, smatterings of history.
history. And then there's the Roar. What heck ''is'' the 'Roar'? Did anybody ever figure it out?