History Series / PennAndTellerBullshit

8th Jun '17 7:27:16 AM CurledUpWithDakka
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* GrammarNazi: They drop in mini-lectures a few times for this reason, like [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_HscBWJhNQ The difference between acronyms and initiaslisms.]]

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* GrammarNazi: They drop in mini-lectures a few times for this reason, like [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_HscBWJhNQ The difference between acronyms and initiaslisms.initialisms.]]
7th Jun '17 11:33:06 PM ImpudentInfidel
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* IntentionallyAwkwardTitle: Which was chosen because of the impact it would have.

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* IntentionallyAwkwardTitle: Which was chosen because of the impact it would have. They mentioned in the "obscenity" episode that their first choice was "humbug", in honor of Houdini favoring the term in his own debunking career, but it had lost so much of it's rudeness and offensiveness over time that they went with the modern equivalent.
18th Mar '17 7:12:01 PM Thunderchin
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* DefectorFromDecadence: Sometimes, a member of the group or organization being made fun of is revealed to actually agree with Penn and Teller.
** Howard Menser, the Scoutmaster featured in the "Boy Scouts" episode, is gay. While he at first sings the praises of Scouting and what it teaches, and tells us of his 23 years leading his local troop, he cites the increasing hatred for gays and athiests as the reason he left.
** Mark Edward is the reformed con artist who explains the tricks of the psychic trade in "Talking to the Dead". Having worked as a psychic, he found it trivially easy to manipulate and read people. This amount of power scared him deeply, turning him around to fighting con artistry.
** Kelly Dunham was once a nun who worked for Mother Teresa. She left the convent to become a standup comic and, in "Holier than Thou", spoke out against the "cult of suffering" that Mother Teresa established.



-->'''Penn''': The lesser of two evils is still evil. And the enemy of my enemy is ''not'' my friend.

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-->'''Penn''': --->'''Penn''': The lesser of two evils is still evil. And the enemy of my enemy is ''not'' my friend.friend.
** As anti-religion as the show gets, "Death, Inc." had a Catholic priest on their side.
13th Mar '17 9:00:43 PM Fireblood
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** Exploited in the Vaccination episode where the anti-vaccination side depended upon porn stars to get their message across, Penn & Teller [[TakeThat had a topless woman stating that there were no correlation between vaccines and autism]].
* ForScience: With some subjects it will be pointed out how difficult it would be for some causal relationships to be conclusively proven. For example The "Penn & Teller Centre For Incredibly Bad Ideas" have allegedly put five rapists into a rented house next to an all girl college... The results of this study have been suppressed by the US Department of Reason: "Did we mention there's no good science on either side of this debate?"

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** Exploited in the Vaccination episode where the anti-vaccination side depended upon porn stars to get their message across, Penn & Teller [[TakeThat had a topless woman stating that there were was no correlation between vaccines and autism]].
* ForScience: With some subjects it will be pointed out how difficult it would be for some causal relationships to be conclusively proven. For example The "Penn & Teller Centre Center For Incredibly Bad Ideas" have allegedly put five rapists into a rented house next to an all girl college... The results of this study have been suppressed by the US Department of Reason: "Did we mention there's no good science on either side of this debate?"



** Patti Strand from The National Animals Interest Alliance calls PETA '''P'''eople for '''E'''xtortion, '''T'''error and '''A'''buse.

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** Patti Strand from The National Animals Animal Interest Alliance calls PETA '''P'''eople for '''E'''xtortion, '''T'''error and '''A'''buse.



* GayAesop: The "Family Values" episode is pro-gay marriage, picking apart every anti-gay marriage argument that the hosts can find while also saying that the concept of the "American family" is changing. Also, the "Boy Scouts" episode features a segment where Penn decries the practice of the Boy Scouts firing gay troop leaders or preventing gay boys from joining[[note]]The Boy Scouts have since reversed their positions on both of these issues, but the damage to their reputation has already been done[[/note]]. Finally, the "Nukes, Hybrids, and Lesbians" episode has a pair of lesbians going on a date in a rented hybrid vehicle, pausing the date from time to time to show how impractical the cars are.

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* GayAesop: The "Family Values" episode is pro-gay marriage, picking apart every anti-gay marriage argument that the hosts can find while also saying that the concept of the "American family" is changing. Also, the "Boy Scouts" episode features a segment where Penn decries the practice of the Boy Scouts firing gay troop leaders or preventing gay boys from joining[[note]]The joining.[[note]]The Boy Scouts have since reversed their positions on both of these issues, but the damage to their reputation has already been done[[/note]]. done.[[/note]] Finally, the "Nukes, Hybrids, and Lesbians" episode has a pair of lesbians going on a date in a rented hybrid vehicle, pausing the date from time to time to show how impractical the cars are.



** They also used it in the World Peace episode where he said "Hitler called himself a socialist" (although that case was justified, since the claim was that Socialism was a good route to world peace).

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** They also used it in the World Peace episode where he said "Hitler called himself a socialist" (although that case was justified, since the claim was that Socialism socialism was a good route to world peace).
13th Mar '17 8:56:02 PM Fireblood
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* ADateWithRosiePalms: {{Discussed}} and encouraged in the Abstinence episode.



* ADateWithRosiePalms: {{Discussed}} and encouraged in the Abstinence episode.
* DoingInTheWizard: In the Bible episode the theologian they interview brings up the idea that the "parting of the Red Sea" miracle would be better translated as "the Hebrews escaped across the dried marsh". Penn can't figure out how the latter is even a miracle; the best he can come up with is "the smell didn't annoy them."

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* ADateWithRosiePalms: {{Discussed}} and encouraged in the Abstinence episode.
* DoingInTheWizard: In the Bible episode the theologian they interview brings up the idea that the "parting of the Red Sea" miracle would be better translated as "the Hebrews escaped across the dried marsh". Penn can't figure out how the latter is even a miracle; the best he can come up with is "the smell didn't annoy them."" He and Teller also do this against claimed paranormal phenomena on the show regularly.



* EnemyMine: Straight-up [[DefiedTrope defied]] in "Holier Than Thou", when they call the Dalai Lama's somewhat shady background to the audience's attention[[note]]He was part of the wealthy ruling priest class in Tibet (which was an oppressive Third World theocracy before the Chinese took over), and he has been involved in several attempts to win Tibetan independence through violent means with CIA backing[[/note]] and remind them that the simple fact that he hates China doesn't necessarily make him a good person.

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* EnemyMine: Straight-up [[DefiedTrope defied]] in "Holier Than Thou", when they call the Dalai Lama's somewhat shady background to the audience's attention[[note]]He was part of the wealthy ruling priest class in Tibet (which was an oppressive Third World theocracy before the Chinese took over), and he has been involved in several attempts to win Tibetan independence through violent means with CIA backing[[/note]] backing.[[/note]] and remind them that the simple fact that he hates China doesn't necessarily make him a good person.
13th Mar '17 8:50:46 PM Fireblood
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** Any unscientific movement that has actually led to deaths will also get this treatment, such as anti-GMO advocates causing third-world nations in famine to reject GMO crops in food aid, the Catholic church helping spread HIV by previously teaching people not to use condoms[[note]]the Vatican has, since that episode aired, reversed their position on that topic and allowed condoms for HIV prevention, though not contraception[[/note]], or anti-vaccine advocates causing children to get sick from preventable illnesses like measles.

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** Any unscientific movement that has actually led to deaths will also get this treatment, such as anti-GMO advocates causing third-world nations in famine to reject GMO crops in food aid, the Catholic church helping spread HIV by previously teaching people not to use condoms[[note]]the condoms,[[note]]The Vatican has, since that episode aired, reversed their position on that topic and allowed condoms for HIV prevention, though not contraception[[/note]], contraception.[[/note]] or anti-vaccine advocates causing children to get sick from preventable illnesses like measles.



** SubvertedCatchphrase: At the end of the episode on colon cleansing, the 'asshole' being introduced was a literal one, or at least a photo from a colonoscopy. Penn's as a matter of fact. He was wanting to show that the best way to promote colon health was to get regular checkups after a certain age, and was basically saying 'see, I even do it myself'.

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** SubvertedCatchphrase: At the end of the episode on colon cleansing, the 'asshole' being introduced was a literal one, or at least a photo from a colonoscopy. Penn's as a matter of fact. He was wanting to show that the best way to promote colon health was to get regular checkups after a certain age, and was basically saying 'see, 'See, I even do it myself'.
13th Mar '17 8:45:30 PM Fireblood
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** The Dalai Lama is just the ousted dictator of an oppressive Third World theocracy who wants to exploit his position as a "spiritual leader" to regain his lost wealth and power. At heart, he's NotSoDifferent from the oppressive Chinese authorities that he claims to be against.[[note]]This is of course based on perfectly shoddy research. The Dalai Lama on assuming power of Tibet, introduced reforms, freed all prisoners and made peaceful overtures to China. He also expressed support of Communism's anti-imperialist ideology in his youth and underwent BrokenPedestal with Mao, who ''he had met in person'' on a diplomatic visit. The Dalai Lama also said he wants Tibet to be autonomous rather than independent, and he's willing to compromise and gain status like that of Taiwan and Hong Kong with the Mainland. Likewise, the Tibetan government-in-exile is democratically elected among exiles and the Dalai Lama has devolved power and assumed a figurehead status only[[/note]].
** UsefulNotes/MahatmaGandhi was a wise political leader who did much to improve the lives of his fellow Indians, but also openly despised the native Black population of South Africa (where he began his career as an attorney), [[ValuesDissonance though his racism wouldn't have been seen as objectionable in the 1940s]]. He also [[ArsonMurderAndJayWalking engaged in some weird sexual and hygienic practices]], among them giving young girls enemas and sleeping naked with them.

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** The Dalai Lama is just the ousted dictator of an oppressive Third World theocracy who wants to exploit his position as a "spiritual leader" to regain his lost wealth and power. At heart, he's NotSoDifferent from the oppressive Chinese authorities that he claims to be against.[[note]]This is of course based on perfectly shoddy research. The Dalai Lama on assuming power of Tibet, in Tibet introduced reforms, freed all prisoners and made peaceful overtures to China. He also expressed support of Communism's anti-imperialist ideology in his youth and underwent BrokenPedestal with Mao, who ''he had met in person'' on a diplomatic visit. The Dalai Lama also said he wants Tibet to be autonomous rather than independent, and he's willing to compromise and gain status like that of Taiwan and Hong Kong with the Mainland. Likewise, the Tibetan government-in-exile is democratically elected among exiles and the Dalai Lama has devolved power and assumed a figurehead status only[[/note]].
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** UsefulNotes/MahatmaGandhi was a wise political leader who did much to improve the lives of his fellow Indians, but also openly despised the native Black black population of South Africa (where he began his career as an attorney), [[ValuesDissonance though his racism wouldn't have been seen as objectionable in the 1940s]]. He also [[ArsonMurderAndJayWalking engaged in some weird sexual and hygienic practices]], among them giving young girls enemas and sleeping naked with them.them (a test of his celibacy).



* AndIMustScream: Penn describing botched executions in ''Death Penalty''. Specifically, how pre-lethal-injection anesthetics don't always work.

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* AndIMustScream: Penn describing botched executions in ''Death Penalty''. Specifically, how pre-lethal-injection pre-lethal injection anesthetics don't always work.
12th Mar '17 1:27:19 PM KingLyger
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** "Family Values": A majority of states now recognize same-sex marriage, up to the Supreme Court legalizing it nationwide as of June 26th, 2015.

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** "Family Values": A majority of states now recognize same-sex the episode is spent arguing for gay marriage, up to since the idea of "the perfect American family" is constantly changing. The Supreme Court legalizing it legalized same-sex marriage nationwide as of on June 26th, 2015.



* SpecialGuest: In the "Apocalypse 2012" episode, while discussing the idea that a brown dwarf star will destroy the world in 2012, they cut to Penn & Teller going up to Creator/GaryColeman and asking if [[VisualPun he's planning on destroying the world in 2012]]. He says yes.

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** In the episode on the Vatican, knowing that Pope John Paul II was in failing health, they lampshade this trope. As John Paul II appears on screen, a caption comes up that reads "If this guy is dead by the time this episode airs, just imagine we're talking about his replacement."
* SpecialGuest: In the "Apocalypse 2012" episode, while discussing the idea that a brown dwarf star will destroy the world in 2012, they cut to Penn & Teller going up to Creator/GaryColeman Gary Coleman and asking if [[VisualPun he's planning on destroying the world in 2012]]. He says yes.
11th Mar '17 7:03:55 PM KingLyger
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* ImmediateSelfContradiction:
** In the "War on Porn" episode, the anti-porn crusader uses an appear to adverse consequences by saying that looking at too much porn will turn people into pedophiles, then says that she has no studies to verify this claim. Penn calls her out own this, saying that the crusader just admitted she's making this up.
** In the episode on "Exercise vs. Genetics," [[RunningGag Clark Bar... tram]] calls out personal trainers that try and sell protein powders and vitamins, saying they don't work, and that you really need to exercise regardless. He then tries to sell his own protein powders and vitamins.



* TheImmodestOrgasm: {{Deconstructed}} in the Orgasms episode

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* TheImmodestOrgasm: {{Deconstructed}} in the Orgasms episodeepisode, saying they create an unrealistic expectation for sex.



* TheInternetIsForPorn: Joked about, but also addressed seriously in the War On Porn episode. The guys argue that there's really nothing wrong with looking at porn online, and that those who want it taken down (en masse, at least) are mostly appealing to consequences rather than using scientific studies.

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* TheInternetIsForPorn: Joked about, but also addressed seriously in the War On Porn episode. The guys argue that there's really nothing wrong with looking at porn online, and that those who want it taken down (en masse, at least) are mostly appealing to consequences rather than using scientific studies. The anti-porn crusader they follow in the episode even admits she has no studies to back up her claims.



* ItsFakeFurItsFine: No. No, it's not. In the episode on PETA, they make it clear that they have nothing but contempt for this trope, and consider it to be hypocrisy in its purest form. They point out while interviewing a PETA spokesman that he's wearing a fake leather belt, shoes and watchband, thus propagating the fashion even though his outfit didn't directly murder any animals.[[note]]They weren't even sure if the leather was fake or not, they were just giving him the benefit of the doubt.[[/note]]

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* ItsFakeFurItsFine: No. No, it's not. In the episode on PETA, they make it clear that they have nothing but contempt for this trope, and consider it to be hypocrisy in its purest form. They point out while interviewing a PETA spokesman that he's wearing a fake leather belt, shoes and watchband, thus propagating the fashion even though his outfit didn't directly murder any animals.[[note]]They weren't even sure if the leather was fake or not, they were just giving him the benefit of the doubt.[[/note]]



-->There's 300 of them, and 1 of us, and he's worried about ''their'' safety? He's either a pussy, or he thinks he recognizes Erin from ''[[Film/DrunkenMaster Drunken Master 2.]]''

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-->There's 300 three hundred of them, and 1 one of us, and he's worried about ''their'' safety? He's either a pussy, or he thinks he recognizes Erin from ''[[Film/DrunkenMaster Drunken Master ''Film/DrunkenMaster 2.]]''''



* MerchandiseDriven: The real goal of many bullshitters is to sell derivative stuff on the side.

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* MerchandiseDriven: The real goal of many bullshitters is to sell derivative stuff on the side. The episodes on exercise and aliens even call this out. Also, a lot of new-age spiritual beliefs requires an investment of a lot of money, which the hosts always take time to mock.
19th Jan '17 11:23:38 PM AgentSalt
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Added DiffLines:

** According to one interview this led to the humorous situation where, after sending the script to the lawyers to be checked, it was returned with a potentially-slanderous line crossed out and a note reading "couldn't you just call him an asshole?"
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