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* In ''Franchise/StarWarsLegends'', there were various sources that put the Separatist droid army in the quadrillions or quintillions. However, the prequel-era movie novelizations had already established the Republic as having one hundred thousand worlds, tens of thousands of star systems, and a population which included "trillions of commonfolk" (presumably not single digit trillions as that would be its own issue). The latter droid army figures would make an average potential occupation force of at least 10 trillion droids per world and outnumber every man, woman, child and other categorization in the Republic by several orders of magnitude.

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* In ''Franchise/StarWarsLegends'', there were various sources that put the Separatist droid army in the quadrillions or quintillions. However, the prequel-era movie novelizations had already established the Republic as having one hundred thousand worlds, tens of thousands of star systems, and a population which included "trillions of commonfolk" (presumably not single digit trillions as that would be its own issue). The latter commonfolk." Unlike all the other examples, this figure goes in the opposite direction by being way too ''high''. A droid army figures of quintillions would make an average potential occupation force of at least mean about 10 trillion droids per world and outnumber every man, woman, child and other categorization being in the Republic put together by several orders of magnitude.
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* Coruscant is described as one big city, with a population of one trillion. It's 12,400 km in diameter, making it approximately Earth-sized. A population of one trillion spread evenly across such a planet (assuming 2/3 of its surface is water, as is the case with Earth) would have an average population density less than 6,000 per square kilometer, and yet we see huge, sprawling, skyscraper-laden areas that are almost completely full of people (Manhattan has a population density of ''28,000'' per square kilometer, now imagine multiple layers of that). However, this isn't necessarily a contradiction because population density isn't uniform across the entire planet. There are marginally inhabited, burned out and deserted areas (like what Dooku flew over) and landing zones (like what Anakin crashed into), and the hugely populated parts in the movies are in the same general area, so it may simply be the (or at least ''a'') "downtown" sector of the planet.

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* Coruscant is described as one big city, with a population of one trillion. It's 12,400 km in diameter, making it approximately Earth-sized. A population of one trillion spread evenly across such a planet (assuming 2/3 no large bodies of its surface is water, as is the case with Earth) water or other uninhabitable areas) would have an average population density less than 6,000 per square kilometer, and yet we see huge, sprawling, skyscraper-laden areas that are almost completely full of people (Manhattan has a population density of ''28,000'' per square kilometer, now imagine multiple layers of that). However, this isn't necessarily a contradiction because population density isn't uniform across the entire planet. There are marginally inhabited, burned out and deserted areas (like what Dooku flew over) and landing zones (like what Anakin crashed into), and the hugely populated parts in the movies are in the same general area, so it may simply be the (or at least ''a'') "downtown" sector of the planet.
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* In the ''Film/AttackOfTheClones'' movie, there was a mention of two hundred thousand units mobilised and a million more "well on the way." The {{novelization}} and junior novelization by Creator/RASalvatore and Creator/PatriciaCWrede confirmed that [[UnitConfusion the term "unit" was referring to a unit of production]], so "one unit" is equal to a single clone. 1.2 million clones for a Republic of thousands of inhabited worlds? Coruscant alone has a trillion people on it. Creator/MattStover's ''Literature/{{Shatterpoint}}'', {{lampshaded}} the problem and argued that the vast majority of the fighting was being done by local paramilitaries and planetary security forces. The ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsTheCloneWars'' episode "Pursuit of Peace" has the Senate order an additional 5 million clones, and Creator/KarenTraviss's ''Literature/RepublicCommandoSeries'' (which oddly was later MisBlamed for creating the problem in the first place) also introduced a late surge of additional clones activated shortly before ''Film/RevengeOfTheSith''. Much later, the [[Franchise/StarWarsExpandedUniverse Disney canon]] supplement ''Star Wars: Complete Locations'' gave the army's size as 3.4 million total clones; still nowhere close to what one would expect of an army fighting a galaxy-sized interstellar war, even taking an upper figure of 8 million clone soldiers. For comparison, twice as many men served in the US military alone in World War II, and that's just a single country on a single planet.

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* In the ''Film/AttackOfTheClones'' movie, there was a mention of two hundred thousand units mobilised and a million more "well on the way." The {{novelization}} and junior novelization by Creator/RASalvatore and Creator/PatriciaCWrede confirmed that [[UnitConfusion the term "unit" was referring to a unit of production]], so "one unit" is equal to a single clone. 1.2 million clones for a Republic of thousands of inhabited worlds? Coruscant alone has a trillion people on it. Creator/MattStover's ''Literature/{{Shatterpoint}}'', {{lampshaded}} the problem and argued that the vast majority of the fighting was being done by local paramilitaries and planetary security forces. The ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsTheCloneWars'' episode "Pursuit of Peace" has the Senate order an additional 5 million clones, and Creator/KarenTraviss's ''Literature/RepublicCommandoSeries'' (which oddly was later MisBlamed for creating the problem in the first place) also introduced a late surge of additional clones activated shortly before ''Film/RevengeOfTheSith''. Much later, the [[Franchise/StarWarsExpandedUniverse Disney canon]] supplement ''Star Wars: Complete Locations'' gave the army's size as 3.4 million total clones; still nowhere close to what one would expect of an army fighting a galaxy-sized interstellar war, even taking into account an upper figure of 8 million clone soldiers. For comparison, twice as many men served in the US military alone in World War II, and that's just a single country on a single planet.
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* In the ''Film/AttackOfTheClones'' movie, there was a mention of two hundred thousand units mobilised and a million more "well on the way." The {{novelization}} and junior novelization by Creator/RASalvatore and Creator/PatriciaCWrede confirmed that [[UnitConfusion the term "unit" was referring to a unit of production]], so "one unit" is equal to a single clone. 1.2 million clones for a Republic of thousands of inhabited worlds? Coruscant alone has a trillion people on it. Creator/MattStover's ''Literature/{{Shatterpoint}}'', {{lampshaded}} the problem and argued that the vast majority of the fighting was being done by local paramilitaries and planetary security forces. The ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsTheCloneWars'' episode "Pursuit of Peace" has the Senate order an additional 5 million clones, and Creator/KarenTraviss's ''Literature/RepublicCommandoSeries'' (which oddly was later MisBlamed for creating the problem in the first place) also introduced a late surge of additional clones activated shortly before ''Film/RevengeOfTheSith''. Much later, the [[Franchise/StarWarsExpandedUniverse Disney canon]] supplement ''Star Wars: Complete Locations'' gave the army's size as 3.4 million total clones; still not even close to what one would expect of an army fighting a galaxy-scale interstellar war, even taking an upper figure of 8 million clone soldiers. For comparison, twice as many men served in the US military alone in World War II, and that's just a single country on a single planet.

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* In the ''Film/AttackOfTheClones'' movie, there was a mention of two hundred thousand units mobilised and a million more "well on the way." The {{novelization}} and junior novelization by Creator/RASalvatore and Creator/PatriciaCWrede confirmed that [[UnitConfusion the term "unit" was referring to a unit of production]], so "one unit" is equal to a single clone. 1.2 million clones for a Republic of thousands of inhabited worlds? Coruscant alone has a trillion people on it. Creator/MattStover's ''Literature/{{Shatterpoint}}'', {{lampshaded}} the problem and argued that the vast majority of the fighting was being done by local paramilitaries and planetary security forces. The ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsTheCloneWars'' episode "Pursuit of Peace" has the Senate order an additional 5 million clones, and Creator/KarenTraviss's ''Literature/RepublicCommandoSeries'' (which oddly was later MisBlamed for creating the problem in the first place) also introduced a late surge of additional clones activated shortly before ''Film/RevengeOfTheSith''. Much later, the [[Franchise/StarWarsExpandedUniverse Disney canon]] supplement ''Star Wars: Complete Locations'' gave the army's size as 3.4 million total clones; still not even nowhere close to what one would expect of an army fighting a galaxy-scale galaxy-sized interstellar war, even taking an upper figure of 8 million clone soldiers. For comparison, twice as many men served in the US military alone in World War II, and that's just a single country on a single planet.
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* In the ''Film/AttackOfTheClones'' movie, there was a mention of two hundred thousand units mobilised and a million more "well on the way." The {{novelization}} and junior novelization by Creator/RASalvatore and Creator/PatriciaCWrede confirmed that [[UnitConfusion the term "unit" was referring to a unit of production]], so "one unit" is equal to a single clone. 1.2 million clones for a Republic of thousands of inhabited worlds? Coruscant alone has a trillion people on it. Creator/MattStover's ''Literature/{{Shatterpoint}}'', {{lampshaded}} the problem and argued that the vast majority of the fighting was being done by local paramilitaries and planetary security forces. The ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsTheCloneWars'' episode "Pursuit of Peace" has the Senate order an additional 5 million clones, and Creator/KarenTraviss's ''Literature/RepublicCommandoSeries'' (which oddly was later MisBlamed for creating the problem in the first place) also introduced a late surge of additional clones activated shortly before ''Film/RevengeOfTheSith''. Much later, the [[Franchise/StarWarsExpandedUniverse Disney canon]] supplement ''Star Wars: Complete Locations'' gave the army's size as 3.4 million total clones. Despite all this, none of these numbers even come close to what one would expect of a galaxy-scale interstellar war, even taking the upper figure of 8 million clone soldiers. For comparison, twice as many men as that served in the US military alone in World War II, and that's just a single country on a single planet.

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* In the ''Film/AttackOfTheClones'' movie, there was a mention of two hundred thousand units mobilised and a million more "well on the way." The {{novelization}} and junior novelization by Creator/RASalvatore and Creator/PatriciaCWrede confirmed that [[UnitConfusion the term "unit" was referring to a unit of production]], so "one unit" is equal to a single clone. 1.2 million clones for a Republic of thousands of inhabited worlds? Coruscant alone has a trillion people on it. Creator/MattStover's ''Literature/{{Shatterpoint}}'', {{lampshaded}} the problem and argued that the vast majority of the fighting was being done by local paramilitaries and planetary security forces. The ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsTheCloneWars'' episode "Pursuit of Peace" has the Senate order an additional 5 million clones, and Creator/KarenTraviss's ''Literature/RepublicCommandoSeries'' (which oddly was later MisBlamed for creating the problem in the first place) also introduced a late surge of additional clones activated shortly before ''Film/RevengeOfTheSith''. Much later, the [[Franchise/StarWarsExpandedUniverse Disney canon]] supplement ''Star Wars: Complete Locations'' gave the army's size as 3.4 million total clones. Despite all this, none of these numbers clones; still not even come close to what one would expect of an army fighting a galaxy-scale interstellar war, even taking the an upper figure of 8 million clone soldiers. For comparison, twice as many men as that served in the US military alone in World War II, and that's just a single country on a single planet.
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* In the ''Film/AttackOfTheClones'' movie, there was a mention of two hundred thousand units mobilised and a million more "well on the way." The {{novelization}} and junior novelization by Creator/RASalvatore and Creator/PatriciaCWrede confirmed that [[UnitConfusion the term "unit" was referring to a unit of production]], so "one unit" is equal to a single clone. 1.2 million clones for a Republic of thousands of inhabited worlds? Coruscant alone has a trillion people on it. Creator/MattStover's ''Literature/{{Shatterpoint}}'', {{lampshaded}} the problem and argued that the vast majority of the fighting was being done by local paramilitaries and planetary security forces. The ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsTheCloneWars'' episode "Pursuit of Peace" has the Senate order an additional 5 million clones, and Creator/KarenTraviss's ''Literature/RepublicCommandoSeries'' (which oddly was later MisBlamed for creating the problem in the first place) also introduced a late surge of additional clones activated shortly before ''Film/RevengeOfTheSith''. Much later, the [[Franchise/StarWarsExpandedUniverse Disney canon]] supplement ''Star Wars: Complete Locations'' gave the army's size as 3.4 million total clones. Despite all this, none of these numbers even come close to what one would expect of a galaxy-scale interstellar war, even taking the upper figure of 8 million clone soldiers. For comparison, twice as many men as that served in the US military alone in World War II, and that's just on a single planet.

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* In the ''Film/AttackOfTheClones'' movie, there was a mention of two hundred thousand units mobilised and a million more "well on the way." The {{novelization}} and junior novelization by Creator/RASalvatore and Creator/PatriciaCWrede confirmed that [[UnitConfusion the term "unit" was referring to a unit of production]], so "one unit" is equal to a single clone. 1.2 million clones for a Republic of thousands of inhabited worlds? Coruscant alone has a trillion people on it. Creator/MattStover's ''Literature/{{Shatterpoint}}'', {{lampshaded}} the problem and argued that the vast majority of the fighting was being done by local paramilitaries and planetary security forces. The ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsTheCloneWars'' episode "Pursuit of Peace" has the Senate order an additional 5 million clones, and Creator/KarenTraviss's ''Literature/RepublicCommandoSeries'' (which oddly was later MisBlamed for creating the problem in the first place) also introduced a late surge of additional clones activated shortly before ''Film/RevengeOfTheSith''. Much later, the [[Franchise/StarWarsExpandedUniverse Disney canon]] supplement ''Star Wars: Complete Locations'' gave the army's size as 3.4 million total clones. Despite all this, none of these numbers even come close to what one would expect of a galaxy-scale interstellar war, even taking the upper figure of 8 million clone soldiers. For comparison, twice as many men as that served in the US military alone in World War II, and that's just a single country on a single planet.
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* In the ''Film/AttackOfTheClones'' movie, there was a mention of two hundred thousand units mobilised and a million more well into production. The {{novelization}} and junior novelization by Creator/RASalvatore and Creator/PatriciaCWrede confirmed that [[UnitConfusion the term "unit" was referring to a unit of production]], so a single clone. 1.2 million clones for a Republic of thousands of inhabited worlds? Coruscant alone has a trillion people on it. Creator/MattStover's ''Literature/{{Shatterpoint}}'', {{lampshaded}} the problem and argued that the vast majority of the fighting was being done by local paramilitaries and planetary security forces. The ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsTheCloneWars'' episode "Pursuit of Peace" has the Senate order an additional 5 million clones, and Creator/KarenTraviss's ''Literature/RepublicCommandoSeries'' (which oddly was later MisBlamed for creating the problem in the first place) also introduced a late surge of additional clones activated shortly before ''Film/RevengeOfTheSith''. Much later, the [[Franchise/StarWarsExpandedUniverse Disney canon]] supplement ''Star Wars: Complete Locations'' gave the army's size as 3.4 million total clones. Despite all this, none of these numbers even come close to what one would expect of a galaxy-scale interstellar war, even taking the upper figure of 8 million clone soldiers. For comparison, twice as many men as that served in the US military alone in World War II, and that's just on a single planet.

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* In the ''Film/AttackOfTheClones'' movie, there was a mention of two hundred thousand units mobilised and a million more well into production. "well on the way." The {{novelization}} and junior novelization by Creator/RASalvatore and Creator/PatriciaCWrede confirmed that [[UnitConfusion the term "unit" was referring to a unit of production]], so "one unit" is equal to a single clone. 1.2 million clones for a Republic of thousands of inhabited worlds? Coruscant alone has a trillion people on it. Creator/MattStover's ''Literature/{{Shatterpoint}}'', {{lampshaded}} the problem and argued that the vast majority of the fighting was being done by local paramilitaries and planetary security forces. The ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsTheCloneWars'' episode "Pursuit of Peace" has the Senate order an additional 5 million clones, and Creator/KarenTraviss's ''Literature/RepublicCommandoSeries'' (which oddly was later MisBlamed for creating the problem in the first place) also introduced a late surge of additional clones activated shortly before ''Film/RevengeOfTheSith''. Much later, the [[Franchise/StarWarsExpandedUniverse Disney canon]] supplement ''Star Wars: Complete Locations'' gave the army's size as 3.4 million total clones. Despite all this, none of these numbers even come close to what one would expect of a galaxy-scale interstellar war, even taking the upper figure of 8 million clone soldiers. For comparison, twice as many men as that served in the US military alone in World War II, and that's just on a single planet.
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* In ''Franchise/StarWarsLegends'', there were various sources that put the Separatist droid army in the quadrillions or quintillions. However, the prequel-era movie novelizations had already established the Republic as having one hundred thousand worlds, tens of thousands of star systems, and a population which included "trillions of commonfolk". The latter droid army figures would make an average potential occupation force of at least 10 trillion droids per world and outnumber every man, woman, child and other categorization in the Republic by several orders of magnitude.

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* In ''Franchise/StarWarsLegends'', there were various sources that put the Separatist droid army in the quadrillions or quintillions. However, the prequel-era movie novelizations had already established the Republic as having one hundred thousand worlds, tens of thousands of star systems, and a population which included "trillions of commonfolk".commonfolk" (presumably not single digit trillions as that would be its own issue). The latter droid army figures would make an average potential occupation force of at least 10 trillion droids per world and outnumber every man, woman, child and other categorization in the Republic by several orders of magnitude.
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* In ''Franchise/StarWarsLegends'', there were various sources that put the Separatist droid army in the quadrillions or quintillions. However, the prequel-era movie novelizations had already established the Republic as having one hundred thousand worlds, tens of thousands of star systems, and a population which included "trillions of commonfolk". That would make an average potential occupation force of at least 10 trillion droids per world and outnumber every man, woman, child and other categorization in the Republic by several orders of magnitude.

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* In ''Franchise/StarWarsLegends'', there were various sources that put the Separatist droid army in the quadrillions or quintillions. However, the prequel-era movie novelizations had already established the Republic as having one hundred thousand worlds, tens of thousands of star systems, and a population which included "trillions of commonfolk". That The latter droid army figures would make an average potential occupation force of at least 10 trillion droids per world and outnumber every man, woman, child and other categorization in the Republic by several orders of magnitude.
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* In ''Franchise/StarWarsLegends'', there were various sources that put the Separatist droid army in the quadrillions or quintillions. However, the prequel-era movie novelizations had already established the Republic as having 100'000 worlds, tens of thousands of star systems, and a population which included "trillions of commonfolk". That would make an average potential occupation force of at least 10 trillion droids per world and outnumber every man, woman, child and other categorization in the Republic by several orders of magnitude.

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* In ''Franchise/StarWarsLegends'', there were various sources that put the Separatist droid army in the quadrillions or quintillions. However, the prequel-era movie novelizations had already established the Republic as having 100'000 one hundred thousand worlds, tens of thousands of star systems, and a population which included "trillions of commonfolk". That would make an average potential occupation force of at least 10 trillion droids per world and outnumber every man, woman, child and other categorization in the Republic by several orders of magnitude.
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* In ''Franchise/StarWarsLegends'', there were various sources that put the Separatist droid army in the quadrillions or quintillions. However, the prequel-era movie novelizations had already established the Republic as having 100'000 worlds, tens of thousands of star systems, and a population which included "trillions of commonfolk". That make an average potential occupation force of at least 10 trillion droids per world and outnumber every man, woman, child and other categorization in the Republic by several orders of magnitude.

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* In ''Franchise/StarWarsLegends'', there were various sources that put the Separatist droid army in the quadrillions or quintillions. However, the prequel-era movie novelizations had already established the Republic as having 100'000 worlds, tens of thousands of star systems, and a population which included "trillions of commonfolk". That would make an average potential occupation force of at least 10 trillion droids per world and outnumber every man, woman, child and other categorization in the Republic by several orders of magnitude.
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* In ''Franchise/StarWarsLegends'', there were various sources that put the Separatist droid army in the quadrillions or quintillions. However, the prequel-era movie novelizations established the Republic as having 100'000 worlds, tens of thousands of star systems, and a population which included "trillions of commonfolk". That make an average potential occupation force of at least 10 trillion droids per world and outnumber every man, woman, child and other categorization in the Republic by several orders of magnitude.

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* In ''Franchise/StarWarsLegends'', there were various sources that put the Separatist droid army in the quadrillions or quintillions. However, the prequel-era movie novelizations had already established the Republic as having 100'000 worlds, tens of thousands of star systems, and a population which included "trillions of commonfolk". That make an average potential occupation force of at least 10 trillion droids per world and outnumber every man, woman, child and other categorization in the Republic by several orders of magnitude.
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* In ''Franchise/StarWarsLegends'', there were various sources that put the Separatist droid army in the quadrillions or quintillions. However, the prequel-era movie novelizations established the Republic as having 100'000 worlds, tens of thousands of star systems, and a population which included "trillions of commonfolk". That make an average potential occupation force of at least 10 trillion droids per world and outnumber every man, woman, child and other categorization in the Republic by several orders of magnitude.
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* In the ''Film/AttackOfTheClones'' movie, there was a mention of two hundred thousand units mobilised and a million more well into production. The {{novelization}} by Creator/RASalvatore confirmed that [[UnitConfusion the term "unit" was referring to a unit of production]], so a single clone. 1.2 million clones for a Republic of thousands of inhabited worlds? Coruscant alone has a trillion people on it. Creator/MattStover's ''Literature/{{Shatterpoint}}'', {{lampshaded}} the problem and argued that the vast majority of the fighting was being done by local paramilitaries and planetary security forces. The ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsTheCloneWars'' episode "Pursuit of Peace" has the Senate order an additional 5 million clones, and Creator/KarenTraviss's ''Literature/RepublicCommandoSeries'' (which oddly was later MisBlamed for creating the problem in the first place) also introduced a late surge of additional clones activated shortly before ''Film/RevengeOfTheSith''. Much later, the [[Franchise/StarWarsExpandedUniverse Disney canon]] supplement ''Star Wars: Complete Locations'' gave the army's size as 3.4 million total clones. Despite all this, none of these numbers even come close to what one would expect of a galaxy-scale interstellar war, even taking the upper figure of 8 million clone soldiers. For comparison, twice as many men as that served in the US military alone in World War II, and that's just on a single planet.

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* In the ''Film/AttackOfTheClones'' movie, there was a mention of two hundred thousand units mobilised and a million more well into production. The {{novelization}} and junior novelization by Creator/RASalvatore and Creator/PatriciaCWrede confirmed that [[UnitConfusion the term "unit" was referring to a unit of production]], so a single clone. 1.2 million clones for a Republic of thousands of inhabited worlds? Coruscant alone has a trillion people on it. Creator/MattStover's ''Literature/{{Shatterpoint}}'', {{lampshaded}} the problem and argued that the vast majority of the fighting was being done by local paramilitaries and planetary security forces. The ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsTheCloneWars'' episode "Pursuit of Peace" has the Senate order an additional 5 million clones, and Creator/KarenTraviss's ''Literature/RepublicCommandoSeries'' (which oddly was later MisBlamed for creating the problem in the first place) also introduced a late surge of additional clones activated shortly before ''Film/RevengeOfTheSith''. Much later, the [[Franchise/StarWarsExpandedUniverse Disney canon]] supplement ''Star Wars: Complete Locations'' gave the army's size as 3.4 million total clones. Despite all this, none of these numbers even come close to what one would expect of a galaxy-scale interstellar war, even taking the upper figure of 8 million clone soldiers. For comparison, twice as many men as that served in the US military alone in World War II, and that's just on a single planet.
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* In the ''Film/AttackOfTheClones'' movie, there was a mention of two hundred thousand units being ready and a million more well on the way. The {{novelization}} by Creator/RASalvatore confirmed that [[UnitConfusion the term "unit" was referring to a unit of production]], so a single clone. 1.2 million clones for a Republic of thousands of inhabited worlds? Coruscant alone has a trillion people on it. Creator/MattStover's ''Literature/{{Shatterpoint}}'', {{lampshaded}} the problem and argued that the vast majority of the fighting was being done by local paramilitaries and planetary security forces. The ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsTheCloneWars'' episode "Pursuit of Peace" has the Senate order an additional 5 million clones, and Creator/KarenTraviss's ''Literature/RepublicCommandoSeries'' (which oddly was later MisBlamed for creating the problem in the first place) also introduced a late surge of additional clones activated shortly before ''Film/RevengeOfTheSith''. Much later, the [[Franchise/StarWarsExpandedUniverse Disney canon]] supplement ''Star Wars: Complete Locations'' gave the army's size as 3.4 million total clones. Despite all this, none of these numbers even come close to what one would expect of a galaxy-scale interstellar war, even taking the upper figure of 8 million clone soldiers. For reference, 16 million people served in the United States military during the Second World War, and that's a ''single country'' on a ''single planet''.

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* In the ''Film/AttackOfTheClones'' movie, there was a mention of two hundred thousand units being ready mobilised and a million more well on the way.into production. The {{novelization}} by Creator/RASalvatore confirmed that [[UnitConfusion the term "unit" was referring to a unit of production]], so a single clone. 1.2 million clones for a Republic of thousands of inhabited worlds? Coruscant alone has a trillion people on it. Creator/MattStover's ''Literature/{{Shatterpoint}}'', {{lampshaded}} the problem and argued that the vast majority of the fighting was being done by local paramilitaries and planetary security forces. The ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsTheCloneWars'' episode "Pursuit of Peace" has the Senate order an additional 5 million clones, and Creator/KarenTraviss's ''Literature/RepublicCommandoSeries'' (which oddly was later MisBlamed for creating the problem in the first place) also introduced a late surge of additional clones activated shortly before ''Film/RevengeOfTheSith''. Much later, the [[Franchise/StarWarsExpandedUniverse Disney canon]] supplement ''Star Wars: Complete Locations'' gave the army's size as 3.4 million total clones. Despite all this, none of these numbers even come close to what one would expect of a galaxy-scale interstellar war, even taking the upper figure of 8 million clone soldiers. For reference, 16 million people comparison, twice as many men as that served in the United States US military during the Second alone in World War, War II, and that's a ''single country'' just on a ''single planet''.single planet.
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** Towards the end of ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine'', after a giant space and land war that involved all of the major powers, with multiple important planets being attacked or invaded, the Cardassian Union's leader remarks that they'd lost 7 million soldiers in the war. Which is less than the Soviet Union lost in World War 2. It gets a bit more realistic when a major planet has an attempted genocide that kills 800 million civilians in the space of a few hours, and that's probably them holding back as to not blow up their own soldiers and infrastructure.

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** Towards the end of ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine'', after a giant space and land war that involved all of the major powers, with multiple important planets being attacked or invaded, the Cardassian Union's leader remarks that they'd lost 7 million soldiers in the war. Which is less than the Soviet Union lost in World War 2. It gets a bit more realistic when a major planet has an attempted genocide that kills 800 million civilians in the space of a few hours, and that's probably them the belligerents holding back as to not blow up their own soldiers and infrastructure.
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** Towards the end of ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine'', after a giant space and land war that involved all of the major powers, with multiple important planets being attacked or invaded, the Cardassian Union's leader remarks that they'd lost 7 million soldiers in the war. Which is less than the Soviet Union lost in World War 2. It gets a bit more realistic when a major planet has an attempted genocide that kills 800 million civilians in the space of a few hours, and that's probably them holding back as to not blow up their own soldiers and infraatructure.

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** Towards the end of ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine'', after a giant space and land war that involved all of the major powers, with multiple important planets being attacked or invaded, the Cardassian Union's leader remarks that they'd lost 7 million soldiers in the war. Which is less than the Soviet Union lost in World War 2. It gets a bit more realistic when a major planet has an attempted genocide that kills 800 million civilians in the space of a few hours, and that's probably them holding back as to not blow up their own soldiers and infraatructure.infrastructure.
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* In the ''Film/AttackOfTheClones'' movie, there was a mention of two hundred thousand units being ready and a million more well on the way. The {{novelization}} by Creator/RASalvatore confirmed that [[UnitConfusion the term "unit" was referring to a unit of production]], so a single clone. 1.2 million clones for a Republic of thousands of inhabited worlds? Coruscant alone has a trillion people on it. Creator/MattStover's ''Literature/{{Shatterpoint}}'', {{lampshaded}} the problem and argued that the vast majority of the fighting was being done by local paramilitaries and planetary security forces. The ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsTheCloneWars'' episode "Pursuit of Peace" has the Senate order an additional 5 million clones, and Creator/KarenTraviss's ''Literature/RepublicCommandoSeries'' (which oddly was later MisBlamed for creating the problem in the first place) also introduced a late surge of additional clones activated shortly before ''Film/RevengeOfTheSith''. Much later, the [[Franchise/StarWarsExpandedUniverse Disney canon]] supplement ''Star Wars: Complete Locations'' gave the army's size as 3.4 million total clones. Despite all of this, none of these numbers comes close to what one would expect of an galaxy-scale interstellar war, even taking the upper figure of 8 million clone soldiers. For reference, 16 million people served in the United States military during the Second World War, and that's a ''single country'' on a ''single planet''.

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* In the ''Film/AttackOfTheClones'' movie, there was a mention of two hundred thousand units being ready and a million more well on the way. The {{novelization}} by Creator/RASalvatore confirmed that [[UnitConfusion the term "unit" was referring to a unit of production]], so a single clone. 1.2 million clones for a Republic of thousands of inhabited worlds? Coruscant alone has a trillion people on it. Creator/MattStover's ''Literature/{{Shatterpoint}}'', {{lampshaded}} the problem and argued that the vast majority of the fighting was being done by local paramilitaries and planetary security forces. The ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsTheCloneWars'' episode "Pursuit of Peace" has the Senate order an additional 5 million clones, and Creator/KarenTraviss's ''Literature/RepublicCommandoSeries'' (which oddly was later MisBlamed for creating the problem in the first place) also introduced a late surge of additional clones activated shortly before ''Film/RevengeOfTheSith''. Much later, the [[Franchise/StarWarsExpandedUniverse Disney canon]] supplement ''Star Wars: Complete Locations'' gave the army's size as 3.4 million total clones. Despite all of this, none of these numbers comes even come close to what one would expect of an a galaxy-scale interstellar war, even taking the upper figure of 8 million clone soldiers. For reference, 16 million people served in the United States military during the Second World War, and that's a ''single country'' on a ''single planet''.
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* In the ''Film/AttackOfTheClones'' movie, there was a mention of two hundred thousand units being ready and a million more well on the way. The {{novelization}} by Creator/RASalvatore confirmed that [[UnitConfusion the term "unit" was referring to a unit of production]], so a single clone. 1.2 million clones for a Republic of thousands of inhabited worlds? Coruscant alone has a trillion people on it (though that has problems in and of itself, see below). Later ''Franchise/StarWarsLegends'' sources variously upped that to three million clones, or as in the case of Creator/MattStover's ''Literature/{{Shatterpoint}}'', {{lampshaded}} the problem and argued that the vast majority of the fighting was being done by local paramilitaries and planetary security forces. The ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsTheCloneWars'' episode "Pursuit of Peace" has the Senate order an additional 5 million clones, and Creator/KarenTraviss's ''Literature/RepublicCommandoSeries'' (which oddly was later MisBlamed for creating the problem in the first place) also introduced a late surge of additional clones activated shortly before ''Film/RevengeOfTheSith''. Much later, the [[Franchise/StarWarsExpandedUniverse Disney canon]] supplement ''Star Wars: Complete Locations'' gave the army's size as 3.4 million total clones.

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* In the ''Film/AttackOfTheClones'' movie, there was a mention of two hundred thousand units being ready and a million more well on the way. The {{novelization}} by Creator/RASalvatore confirmed that [[UnitConfusion the term "unit" was referring to a unit of production]], so a single clone. 1.2 million clones for a Republic of thousands of inhabited worlds? Coruscant alone has a trillion people on it (though that has problems in and of itself, see below). Later ''Franchise/StarWarsLegends'' sources variously upped that to three million clones, or as in the case of it. Creator/MattStover's ''Literature/{{Shatterpoint}}'', {{lampshaded}} the problem and argued that the vast majority of the fighting was being done by local paramilitaries and planetary security forces. The ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsTheCloneWars'' episode "Pursuit of Peace" has the Senate order an additional 5 million clones, and Creator/KarenTraviss's ''Literature/RepublicCommandoSeries'' (which oddly was later MisBlamed for creating the problem in the first place) also introduced a late surge of additional clones activated shortly before ''Film/RevengeOfTheSith''. Much later, the [[Franchise/StarWarsExpandedUniverse Disney canon]] supplement ''Star Wars: Complete Locations'' gave the army's size as 3.4 million total clones. Despite all of this, none of these numbers comes close to what one would expect of an galaxy-scale interstellar war, even taking the upper figure of 8 million clone soldiers. For reference, 16 million people served in the United States military during the Second World War, and that's a ''single country'' on a ''single planet''.



* In ''Film/RevengeOfTheSith'', the Wookies are in danger of falling to the CIS. So Yoda states he will take a battalion of clones (roughly 1,000) to reinforce the ''entire planet'' of Kashyyyk.[[note]]Kashyyyk only has 56 million sapients, and it's implied Yoda is reinforcing a Clone force that's already there, but still, that battalion is considered a game changer. Just imagine how absurd it would sound if Army Group Centre was repulsed in its invasion of Belarus and Ukraine because the already multi-million-strong Red Army force opposing them was reinforced by 1,000 extra guys.[[/note]]

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* In ''Film/RevengeOfTheSith'', the Wookies are in danger of falling to the CIS. So Yoda states he will take a battalion of clones (roughly 1,000) to reinforce the ''entire planet'' of Kashyyyk.[[note]]Kashyyyk only has 56 million sapients, and it's implied Yoda is reinforcing a Clone force that's already there, but still, that battalion is considered a game changer. Just imagine how absurd it would sound if Army Group Centre was repulsed in its invasion of Belarus and Ukraine because the already multi-million-strong Red Army force opposing them was reinforced by 1,000 extra guys.[[/note]]
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* ''VideoGame/XComEnemyUnknown'': A news blurb mentions how the worldwide death toll numbers in the "thousands." Not hundreds of thousands, not tens of thousands, but "thousands." That number would barely take a dent out of a decently-sized city, and seems impossibly low given the large-scale destruction we see during Terror! missions. On the other hand, it could be that the official news reports are deliberately under-reporting the number of casualties to prevent panic from rising.

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* ''VideoGame/XComEnemyUnknown'': ''VideoGame/XCOMEnemyUnknown'': A news blurb mentions how the worldwide death toll numbers in the "thousands." Not hundreds of thousands, not tens of thousands, but "thousands." That number would barely take a dent out of a decently-sized city, and seems impossibly low given the large-scale destruction we see during Terror! missions. On the other hand, it could be that the official news reports are deliberately under-reporting the number of casualties to prevent panic from rising.



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* In the Legends novel ''Literature/NewJediOrder'' the New Republic, losing planets to the invading Yuuzhan Vong left and right, is described as having problems finding shelter and food for '''millions''' of refugees (there's always the probability [[FridgeHorror most of the population didn't survive long enough to become refugees]]).
* Some of this is the result of Franchise/StarWarsLegends having an extremely inconsistent portrayal of its basic scale. The movies give numbers in the range of "tens of thousands of worlds", including a lot of uninhabitable resource-extraction worlds and marginally developed worlds (like Dathomir, Tatooine, Jakku, Bespin, etc. each with less than a million people). Even many of the long-settled and fertile worlds had relatively marginal populations compared to our own (e.g. Kashyyyk with 56 million, Naboo with 600 million including the Gungans). Meanwhile the novelization of ''A New Hope'' mentions "the million systems of the Galactic Empire" and the Phantom Menace novelization refers to the Jedi doing their duties in "a hundred thousand different worlds", while some EU sources bump this up to "millions of worlds" with a lot more development. Somewhere along the line, the math is bound to not add up. Things have improved slightly since those novelizations and EU works were decanonized with the rest of Legends, but it's only a matter of time before more contradictions happen in the Disney canon, given it's only been a few years.

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* In the Legends ''Legends'' novel ''Literature/NewJediOrder'' the New Republic, losing planets to the invading Yuuzhan Vong left and right, is described as having problems finding shelter and food for '''millions''' of refugees (there's always the probability [[FridgeHorror most of the population didn't survive long enough to become refugees]]).
* Some of this is the result of Franchise/StarWarsLegends ''Franchise/StarWarsLegends'' having an extremely inconsistent portrayal of its basic scale. The movies give numbers in the range of "tens of thousands of worlds", including a lot of uninhabitable resource-extraction worlds and marginally developed worlds (like Dathomir, Tatooine, Jakku, Bespin, etc. each with less than a million people). Even many of the long-settled and fertile worlds had relatively marginal populations compared to our own (e.g. Kashyyyk with 56 million, Naboo with 600 million including the Gungans). Meanwhile the novelization of ''A New Hope'' ''Film/ANewHope'' mentions "the million systems of the Galactic Empire" and the Phantom Menace ''Film/ThePhantomMenace'' novelization refers to the Jedi doing their duties in "a hundred thousand different worlds", while some EU sources bump this up to "millions of worlds" with a lot more development. Somewhere along the line, the math is bound to not add up. Things have improved slightly since those novelizations and EU works were decanonized with the rest of Legends, ''Legends'', but it's only a matter of time before more contradictions happen in the Disney canon, given it's only been a few years.



* Both ''Franchise/StarWarsLegends'' and the new canon say there were about 10,000 Jedi in the Old Republic. While the new canon doesn't give a population estimate for the galaxy, it does say there are about 400 billion stars, and legends puts the galactic population at about 100 quadrillion. Even if only one person in a million is force sensitive, that would be 100 billion people. While obviously not all of them would become Jedi, it still seems like there would be more than a measly 10,000. [[Administrivia/TropesAreTools On the other hand]], the low number helps somewhat with questions like how the Jedi [[LegendFadesToMyth faded to legend]] in only twenty years: if accurate, it means most people in the former Republic probably never even came within a hundred light-years of an active-duty Jedi Knight.

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* Both ''Franchise/StarWarsLegends'' and the new canon say there were about 10,000 Jedi in the Old Republic. While the new canon doesn't give a population estimate for the galaxy, it does say there are about 400 billion stars, and legends ''Legends'' puts the galactic population at about 100 quadrillion. Even if only one person in a million is force sensitive, that would be 100 billion people. While obviously not all of them would become Jedi, it still seems like there would be more than a measly 10,000. [[Administrivia/TropesAreTools On the other hand]], the low number helps somewhat with questions like how the Jedi [[LegendFadesToMyth faded to legend]] in only twenty years: if accurate, it means most people in the former Republic probably never even came within a hundred light-years of an active-duty Jedi Knight.
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* In the ''WesternAnimation/{{Doug}}'' episode "Doug's Mail Order Mania" Doug gets an ad in the mail saying he could win a "zillion" dollars. The number is written out in full and takes up several ''pages'' [[https://googology.fandom.com/wiki/Treseptuagintaquingentillion this site]] calculated the number of zeroes to be about 1722, making the value of the "zillion" to be 10^1722. By contrast, the number of elementary particles in the observable universe is estimated to be a measly 10^80. This may be [[InvokedTrope intentional]] though, considering that [[spoiler: the whole thing turns out to be a scam.]]

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* In the ''WesternAnimation/{{Doug}}'' episode "Doug's Mail Order Mania" Doug gets an ad in the mail saying he could win a "zillion" dollars. The number is written out in full and takes up several ''pages'' ''pages.'' [[https://googology.fandom.com/wiki/Treseptuagintaquingentillion this This site]] calculated the number of zeroes to be about 1722, making the value of the "zillion" to be 10^1722. By contrast, the number of elementary particles in the observable universe is estimated to be a measly 10^80. This may be [[InvokedTrope intentional]] though, considering that [[spoiler: the whole thing turns out to be a scam.]]
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* In the ''WesternAnimation/{{Doug}}'' episode "Doug's Mail Order Mania" Doug gets an ad in the mail saying he could win a "zillion" dollars. The number is written out in full and takes up several ''pages'' [[https://googology.fandom.com/wiki/Treseptuagintaquingentillion this site]] calculated the number of zeroes to be about 1722, or 10^1722. By contrast, the number of elementary particles in the observable universe is estimated to be a measly 10^80. This may be [[InvokedTrope intentional]] though, considering that [[spoiler: the whole thing turns out to be a scam.]]

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* In the ''WesternAnimation/{{Doug}}'' episode "Doug's Mail Order Mania" Doug gets an ad in the mail saying he could win a "zillion" dollars. The number is written out in full and takes up several ''pages'' [[https://googology.fandom.com/wiki/Treseptuagintaquingentillion this site]] calculated the number of zeroes to be about 1722, or making the value of the "zillion" to be 10^1722. By contrast, the number of elementary particles in the observable universe is estimated to be a measly 10^80. This may be [[InvokedTrope intentional]] though, considering that [[spoiler: the whole thing turns out to be a scam.]]
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* In the ''WesternAnimation/{{Doug}}'' episode "Doug's Mail Order Mania" Doug gets an ad in the mail saying he could win a "zillion" dollars. The number is written out in full and takes up several ''pages'' [[https://googology.fandom.com/wiki/Treseptuagintaquingentillion this site]] calculated the number of zeroes to be about 1722, or 10^1722. By contrast, the number of elementary particles in the observable universe is estimated to be a measly 10^80. This may be [[InvokedTrope intentional]] though, considering that [[spoiler: the whole thing turns out to be a scam.]]

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* In the ''Film/AttackOfTheClones'' movie, there was a mention of two hundred thousand units being ready and a million more well on the way. The {{novelization}} by Creator/RASalvatore confirmed that [[UnitConfusion the term "unit" was referring to a unit of production]], so a single clone. 1.2 million clones for a Republic of thousands of inhabited worlds? Coruscant alone has a trillion people on it (though that has problems in and of itself, see below). Later ''Franchise/StarWarsLegends'' sources variously upped that to three million clones, or as in the case of Creator/MattStover's ''Literature/{{Shatterpoint}}'', {{lampshaded}} the problem and argued that the vast majority of the fighting was being done by local paramilitaries and planetary security forces. The ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsTheCloneWars'' episode "Pursuit of Peace" has the Senate order an additional 5 million clones, and Creator/KarenTraviss's ''Literature/RepublicCommandoSeries'' (which oddly was later MisBlamed for creating the problem in the first place) also introduced a late surge of additional clones activated shortly before ''Film/RevengeOfTheSith''.\\
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* In the ''Film/AttackOfTheClones'' movie, there was a mention of two hundred thousand units being ready and a million more well on the way. The {{novelization}} by Creator/RASalvatore confirmed that [[UnitConfusion the term "unit" was referring to a unit of production]], so a single clone. 1.2 million clones for a Republic of thousands of inhabited worlds? Coruscant alone has a trillion people on it (though that has problems in and of itself, see below). Later ''Franchise/StarWarsLegends'' sources variously upped that to three million clones, or as in the case of Creator/MattStover's ''Literature/{{Shatterpoint}}'', {{lampshaded}} the problem and argued that the vast majority of the fighting was being done by local paramilitaries and planetary security forces. The ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsTheCloneWars'' episode "Pursuit of Peace" has the Senate order an additional 5 million clones, and Creator/KarenTraviss's ''Literature/RepublicCommandoSeries'' (which oddly was later MisBlamed for creating the problem in the first place) also introduced a late surge of additional clones activated shortly before ''Film/RevengeOfTheSith''.\\
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Much later, the decanonization of Legends in 2014, a new ''Franchise/StarWarsExpandedUniverse'' reference book, ''Complete Locations'', finally {{retcon}}ned the problem away with a statement that the Kaminoans had thousands of ''divisions'' of clones ready by First Geonosis, suggesting that "unit" referred to a regiment-sized batch or larger and putting [[Franchise/StarWarsExpandedUniverse Disney canon]] supplement ''Star Wars: Complete Locations'' gave the army's size in the hundreds of millions to low billions of individual soldiers. Still a little on the small side but significantly more reasonable.as 3.4 million total clones.
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** Towards the end of ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine'', after a giant space and land war that involved all of the major powers, with multiple important planets being attacked or invaded, the Cardassian Union's leader remarks that they'd lost 7 million soldiers in the war. Which is less than the Soviet Union lost in World War 2. It gets a bit more realistic when a major planet has an attempted genocide that kills 800 million civilians in the space of a few hours.
** An episode of ''Deep Space Nine'' establishes that 10 million Bajorans died as a result of the Cardassian occupation. Given that the occupation lasted 50 years, and we see that the Cardassians treated Bajorans as expendable slaves, this is a shockingly low figure, even if Bajor had a much smaller population than Earth.

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** Towards the end of ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine'', after a giant space and land war that involved all of the major powers, with multiple important planets being attacked or invaded, the Cardassian Union's leader remarks that they'd lost 7 million soldiers in the war. Which is less than the Soviet Union lost in World War 2. It gets a bit more realistic when a major planet has an attempted genocide that kills 800 million civilians in the space of a few hours.
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** An episode of ''Deep Space Nine'' establishes that 10 15 million Bajorans died as a result of the Cardassian occupation. Given that the occupation lasted 50 years, and we see that the Cardassians treated Bajorans as expendable slaves, this is a shockingly low figure, even if Bajor had a much smaller population than Earth.Earth and the Cardassians were more interested in plundering Bajor and exploiting its population rather than killing everyone.
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** In the opposite direction, the [[Literature/RevengeOfTheSith Revenge of the Sith novelization]] makes a passing reference to "the intimate journals of a billion Jedi Knights". The Jedi were around for 25,000 years, so there would need to be about 40,000 a year to end up with a billion. Likely even more, since not every one would keep a journal. That would be a believable number if not for the aforementioned "only 10,000 currently in existence" number.
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** A reference book for ''Film/TransformersRevengeOfTheFallen'' claims Megatron's "death-lock pincer" claw arm has a crushing force of 576 psi and a telescoping blade with a 3-kilowatt burn rate. These are less than a decent boxer's punch and 4 horsepower respectively, hilariously low-yield for any 30-plus-foot alien war robot, let alone [[AuthorityEqualsAsskicking Megatron]]. On the other end of the scale, Optimus Prime's barrage cannon is given a sixty-mile range with a firing rate of six shots per second, with each shot being equivalent to three thousand pounds of TNT.

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** * A reference book for ''Film/TransformersRevengeOfTheFallen'' claims Megatron's "death-lock pincer" claw arm has a crushing force of 576 psi and a telescoping blade with a 3-kilowatt burn rate. These are less than a decent boxer's punch and 4 horsepower respectively, hilariously low-yield for any 30-plus-foot alien war robot, let alone [[AuthorityEqualsAsskicking [[RankScalesWithAsskicking Megatron]]. On the other end of the scale, Optimus Prime's barrage cannon is given a sixty-mile range with a firing rate of six shots per second, with each shot being equivalent to three thousand pounds of TNT.

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* Many of the BigBrotherIsWatching type conspiracy theories suffer from this, as the person clearly has no idea how much manpower, technology, etc such a thing would take (as well as massively overestimating how good surveillance technology is, such as assuming security cameras would get a clear shot of everyone's face that they see, even if dozens of people are looking at the camera from dozens of different angles at once.) [[http://terribletruth-beautifullie.blogspot.com/2009/06/no-government-isnt-watching-you_16.html this article provides a detailed explanation of why it wouldn't work, including math to back it all up -- for example, for a country like, say, Britain, you would need 6.7 MILLION tapes per day for 24-hour surveillance]]. Some works and theories ([[UnbuiltTrope including]] ''Literature/NineteenEightyFour'' itself) correct this by noting that they are not spying on ''all'' the people ''all'' the time, but just enough spying on just enough people to make one paranoid -- or give incentives to others (including friends and family) to do the spying for them. Likewise, in ''1984'' it's stated just the Party members (around 10% of Oceania's entire population) are spied upon with the Proles largely left to their own save for some Thought Police members scattered through them to get rid of those who can be a nuisance.
* Any story about vampires where A. everyone who gets bitten turns into a vampire and B. vampires have to bite at least one person every night is an example of this, as if that were the case the number of vampires would double every day, and after only about a month (33 days, to be exact) the entire human race will have been turned into vampires.
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* In 2014 Anton Purisima tried to sue Au Bon Pain for 2 '''undecillion''' dollars. This is roughly what you would get if you turned the ''entire mass of the sun'' into 1,000 dollar bills.[[note]]Yes, [[https://www.businessinsider.com/heres-why-we-stopped-using-1000-bills-2017-8?r=US&IR=T $1000 bills]]; alongside $500, $5,000 and $10,000 bills (plus $100,000 bills that were reserved exclusively for use by banks), the USA produced these during the 19th and 20th century, though they were eventually withdrawn due to a lack of use and fear of counterfeiting. As a fun fact, they're still actually legal tender today, though considering their value as collector's items exceeds their face value, you'd be pretty stupid to spend them instead of selling them on.[[/note]]
* The book ''Innumeracy: Mathematical Illiteracy and its consequences'', which mostly [[DiscussedTrope about this exact topic,]] cites someone who recommended that a local baseball team play a game with the players in each configuration in order to see who was best at what. There are up to 28 players on a baseball team, so number of possible games would have to be at least 28 factorial, or about 3.04x10^30 games, which is a "little" too many to play them all.
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