History RuinedFOREVER / LiveActionTv

** 2002: They changed the format for the first time in 32 years?! ''NO, YOU RUINED SESAME STREET AGAIN!!''

** 2006: They added a fairy Muppet who's even more of a SpotlightStealingSquad than Elmo to the cast? ''This isn't Disneyland, Sesame Workshop!''

** 2012: They let Kevin Clash go from the show? ''OH, NO! NOT AGAIN!!!''

** 2023: The magazine format's being dropped entirely?! ''JIM, CAROLL, BOB, LLOYD, AND THE OTHERS MUST BE SPINNING IN THEIR GRAVES!''

** 1993: They're focusing on the Muppets living around the corner and introduced Zoe? ''This isn't Barney, this is Sesame Street!''

** 2023: The magazine format's being dropped entirely?! ''JIM, CAROLL, BOB, AND THE OTHERS MUST BE SPINNING IN THEIR GRAVES!''

** 1993: They're focusing on the Muppets living around the corner and introduced Zoe? ''OH, NO!''
** 1998: They're focusing the most on Elmo by the time ''Series/ElmosWorld'' was made? ''NO!!!''

** 2006: They added a fairy Muppet who's even more of a SpotlightStealingSquad than Elmo to the cast? ''OH NO, NOT AGAIN!!!!''
** 2009: They made Murray Monster take over the show like Elmo and removed Miles? ''RUINED FOREVER!''

* ''Series/KamenRiderHibiki'' was Ruined FOREVER in the eyes of execs due to the fact it had a ''female'' rider on TV, something that is considered "taboo" with ''Franchise/KamenRider'' (most females who had to transform had to rely on an "anybody can use a TransformationTrinket" or is a rubber monster). Needless to say, the exec associated the failure of the later season of Hibiki with a female rider being one of them. ''Series/KamenRiderKiva'' was when the producers felt ready to allow the women to wear a rider belt again.
** That's weird, considering Kamen Rider Femme was a prominent character in the earlier ''Series/KamenRiderRyuki'' movie.
*** It's more a fact that while Toshihiko Inoue likes to promote more women wearing a rider belt (Save ''[[Series/KamenRiderAgito Agito]], [[Series/KamenRiderFaiz Faiz]], Hibiki'' starting at episode 30 and ''Kiva''), ''Hibiki'' was the first true attempt to place a female rider on TV, something that hasn't been done since Tackle. Unfortunately, it was done during post 30 (when ExecutiveMeddling [[JumpTheShark sent everything to hell]]) which had the unfortunate association that Shuki was responsible. Hence none of the series not directed by Inoue had a woman using a rider belt. A bit of a fear by the executives.
** It should be noted that said female ''Hibiki'' Rider eventually got a much fairer treatment in ''Series/KamenRiderDecade'' [[spoiler:until the Rider War begins. [[AnyoneCanDie She's not alone in that part, though]]]]. Which leads us to our next bullet point...
* Every single thing that happens in ''Series/KamenRiderDecade'' doesn't just ruin itself, it destroys the entire 38-year ''Franchise/KamenRider'' franchise. The AlternateUniverse versions of the Riders being less than perfect, [[Series/KamenRiderKuuga Yuusuke]] being the comic relief, the costume designs for Decade and Diend... yup, ''Kamen Rider'' is dead. Don't even try to debate it. It's dead.
** Ironically, Decade's mission is to stop the entire Multiverse from being Ruined FOREVER in the most literal fashion possible...
* ''Series/KamenRiderDragonKnight'' got this right off the bat, from people who assumed beforehand that it was going to be a half-assed adaptation of ''Series/KamenRiderRyuki''. When the show actually aired, however, this proved not to be the case at all and it gained quite a fan following -- [[GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff especially]] [[RecursiveImport back in Japan]].
** Executive producer Steven Wang ([[JustForFun/OneOfUs himself a big]] ''Franchise/KamenRider'' [[JustForFun/OneOfUs fan]]) commented directly on this attitude, saying "the original Japanese versions will always be there for them to enjoy and, despite what they believe, no one can ever take that away."

** When the Doctor went back to Gallifrey to face Time Lord society in "The Deadly Assassin", and it turned out it was a yDecadentCourt based around a WholePlotReference to the WhoShotJFK conspiracy theories instead of something totally alien like CrystalSpiresAndTogas, the ''Doctor Who Appreciation Society'' fanzine announced the series was terrible now that the Time Lords were [[FanDislikedExplanation ruined]].

** 2012: They let Kevin Clash go from the show? ''HERE WE GO AGAIN!''

** 2017: They added Rudy to the cast and made him a CreatorsPet like Elmo and Abby? ''RUINED FOREVER!''

** 2023: The magazine format's being dropped entirely?! ''JIM MUST BE SPINNING IN HIS GRAVE!''

** 2022: HBO Max dropped almost all the pre-2008 Sesame Street episodes?! ''BLASPHEMY!''

*** ''Series/StarTrekEnterprise'' had fans yelling "AssPull {{Ret Con}}s, it screwed up my {{fanon}}..."[[note]]A spectacular example of fan-on-fan warring occurred when the show was condemned (yes, that word was used) for having a Vulcan as a member of Starfleet, with fans claiming canon and fanon that said Spock was the first. A fan actually went through all 79 episodes of the original series and the movies and came back with the report that there was never any such reference. It didn't stop the criticism.[[/note]] at it more than probably any production in the history of the world. The producers-writers Rick Berman and Brannon Braga insisted that they were trying to adhere to pre-existing canon as much as possible, but occasionally they made some obvious errors, mostly because they were admittedly not fans of (and hadn't even ''seen'' all of) ''The Original Series''. Probably the [[FandomBerserkButton largest gripe]] was that the ''Enterprise'' from the original series was supposed to be the first one ''ever'', so even with a different registry number, Archer's ship should have had a different name. This ignores the fact that even within canon there had been previous spacecraft with that name, meaning that while the ship captained by April, Pike and Kirk was the first ''Federation Starship'' to use the name (and the first with the NCC-1701 registry), it was never the first spacecraft of any kind to use it.

* ''Series/TheOfficeUS'' inspired this reaction when it was revealed in the final episode of the fifth season that [[spoiler: Pam got pregnant. Common lore holds that when a baby is added to the show, it always jumps the shark. So without any sort of proof or indication of actual decline, the fandom has already called this. Despite otherwise loving the fifth season.]]
** Also, now that Michael (Steve Carell) is leaving after the seventh season, many fans are declaring THEY WON'T WATCH AT ALL. And every story line including him in the seventh season is them trying to make us like him less/foreshadow his death (yeah, what?).

*** ''Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration'' had "Franchise/StarTrek is about [[TheKirk Kirk]], [[TheSpock Spock]] and [[TheMcCoy McCoy]]. Not these [[{{Expy}} recycled people.]]" The fact that the first two seasons had low budgets and terrible scripts, suffered a high rate of writer turnover, and were run with an iron fist by an increasingly senile Gene Roddenberry, definitely didn't help. However, with [[GrowingTheBeard time]], a slowly but steadily increasing budget, the march of visual effects technology, talented actors (most notably Patrick Stewart and Brent Spiner), and Gene's death, ''The Next Generation'' eventually escaped the shadow of the original series in critical and popular acclaim, if not popularity. It is now regarded as one of the best Star Treks, and was also the most commercially successful.
*** On the other hand, there is a small subset of fans who attempt to disregard anything after Roddenberry's death (a little less than halfway through [=TNG=]).
*** ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine'' - "What's this about a space station? ''Star Trek'' is about strange new worlds!", in addition to accusations it was being used as a test run for BSG, and the entire Dominion War arc. Tends to have its own fandom compared to other Trek series. Like Next Gen, it had a rough start in its first two seasons but got pretty good in its third, and is now regarded as one of the best Treks.

*** ''Series/StarTrekVoyager'' was never accused of ruining Star Trek forever, but it was accused of ruining ''the Borg'' forever through VillainDecay, and of just being bad.

*** ''Series/StarTrekEnterprise'' had fans yelling "AssPull {{Ret Con}}s, it screwed up my {{fanon}}..."[[note]]A spectacular example of fan-on-fan warring occurred when the show was condemned (yes, that word was used) for having a Vulcan as a member of Starfleet, with fans claiming canon and fanon that said Spock was the first. A fan actually went through all 79 episodes of the original series and the movies and came back with the report that there was never any such reference. It didn't stop the criticism.[[/note]] at it more than probably any production in the history of the world. The producers-writers Rick Berman and Brannon Braga insisted that they were trying to adhere to pre-existing canon as much as possible, but occasionally they made some obvious errors, mostly because they were admittedly not fans of (and hadn't even ''seen'' all of) ''The Original Series''.
*** ''Enterprise'' started out as a back-to-basics exploration show, with a heavy 1960s [=NASA=] "The Right Stuff" vibe, which was meant to attract and be accessible to people not already familiar with the franchise, and convert them into fans. The show didn't even have "Star Trek" in the title; it was just ''"Enterprise"''. After about two seasons, the producers said "fuck that" and decided to do a season-long heavily serialized story arc about transdimensional sphere-builders, alternate timelines, and a planet-destroying Xindi superweapon, which new viewers had a hard time getting into and longtime fans didn't recognize as having anything to do with the rest of Star Trek, thereby ruining ''Enterprise'' (which had been renamed ''Star Trek: Enterprise'') forever. Then Season 4 came along and spent nearly all of its time [[CallBack setting up or explaining stuff that happened in the other shows and movies]], rather than telling its own stories. Did we ''really'' need a three-episode arc just to explain why some Klingons have rubber foreheads and others don't?

** 1996: They're focusing the most on Elmo than anyone else? ''SESAME STREET IS ONCE AGAIN RUINED FOREVER!''
** 1998: Frank Oz quit the Muppets to make movies and ''Series/ElmosWorld'' was made? ''WHAT?!''
** 2002: They changed the format for the first time in 32 years?! ''NO!!!!''

** 2012: They let Kevin Clash go from the show? ''DAMN YOU, SESAME WORKSHOP, YOU'VE ONCE AGAIN RUINED SESAME STREET FOREVER!!!!''
** 2013: They changed the episode numbering system to seasonal order rather than chronological and removed Gabi?! ''ONCE AGAIN RUINED!''

** 1993: They're focusing on the Muppets living around the corner and introduced Zoe? ''RUINED FOREVER?!''
** 1996: They're focusing less on Big Bird, Oscar, Bert and Ernie, and Grover and more on Elmo? ''SESAME STREET IS ONCE AGAIN RUINED FOREVER!''

** 2016: They're moving the show to [=HBO=] from [=PBS=], abridged the episodes to 30 minutes, and phased out most of the human characters ''especially Bob, Gordon and Luis''? ''SCREW THIS!''

* ''Series/TheGoodNightShow'':
** 2006: Sprout fired Melanie? ''THE SHOW IS RUINED FOREVER!''
** 2011: The show is now in the You and Me Tree, plus Star was added to the real kids segments and some segments like crafts and Goodnight Gallery were dropped? ''ONCE AGAIN RUINED FOREVER!''
** 2017: Sprout is becoming Universal Kids and they removed this show?! ''BLASPHEMY!''
* ''Series/TheSunnySideUpShow'':
** 2009: Kevin's left? ''THIS IS NOT GOOD NEWS!''
** 2010: I like that the show's now airing on weekends and especially the new show, ''Series/NoodleAndDoodle'', but ''WHY DID THEY HAVE TO DROP [[Series/TheLetsGoShow THE LET'S GO SHOW]]? ONCE AGAIN RUINED FOREVER!''
** 2013: Kelly (and Sean)'s leaving? ''NO!!!!''
** 2014: The show moved to 30 Rockefeller Plaza, PLUS [[SesameStreetCred celebrity guest appearances]]? ''THE SUNNY SIDE UP SHOW IS RUINED FOREVER!''
** 2015: The show's moved from the Sunshine Barn to a city apartment and a few shows and certain segments were dropped? ''WHAT?!''
** 2017: The show is replaced by ''Series/SproutHouse''? ''SCREW THIS!''

** 2011: The show is now in the You and Me Tree, plus Star was added to the real kids segments and some segments like crafts and Goodnight Gallery were dropped? ''ONCE AGAIN RUINED FOREVER!"

** 2010: I like that the show's now airing on weekends and especially the new show, ''Series/NoodleAndDoodle'', but 'WHY DID THEY HAVE TO DROP [[Series/TheLetsGoShow THE LET'S GO SHOW]]? ONCE AGAIN RUINED FOREVER!''

** 1998: Frank Oz quit the Muppets to make movies and ''Elmo's World'' was made? ''WHAT?!''

** 1993: They're focusing on the Muppets living around the corner and introduced Zoe? ''SESAME STREET IS ONCE AGAIN RUINED FOREVER!''
** 1996: They're focusing less on Big Bird, Oscar, Bert and Ernie, and Grover and more on Elmo? ''RUINED FOREVER!''
** 1998: Frank Oz quit the Muppets to make movies and ''Elmo's World'' was made? ''DAMN YOU!''

** 2002: They changed the format for the first time in 32 years and put Zoe on a tutu almost permanently? ''NO!!!!''

** 2015: Caroll Spinney has been diagnosed with dystonia and Matt Vogel is voicing Big Bird more often than him? ''OSCAR AND BIG BIRD ARE RUINED FOREVER!''
** 2016: They're moving the show to [=HBO=] from [=PBS=] and phased out most of the human characters ''especially Bob, Gordon and Luis''? ''SCREW THIS!''

** 2018-2019: Caroll Spinney has retired fully from Muppet performing and then died? ''OSCAR AND BIG BIRD ARE RUINED FOREVER ONCE AGAIN!''

** 2004: They removed Rosita's wings (well, until 2021)? ''ROSITA IS RUINED FOREVER!''

** 2012: They let Kevin Clash go from the show and then dropped Gabi? ''DAMN YOU, SESAME WORKSHOP, YOU'VE ONCE AGAIN RUINED SESAME STREET FOREVER!!!!''
** 2013: They changed the episode numbering system to seasonal order rather than chronological ''ONCE AGAIN RUINED!''
** 2014: Billy Barkhurst has taken over as Ernie? ''ERNIE AND BERT ARE RUINED FOREVER!''

** There was even more outcry when ''Torchwood'' aired on Starz and was co-produced by them. Deciding to set ''Miracle Day'' [[MultipleDemographicAppeal in North America]] certainly didn't soften any blows, nor did cranking the sexual content UpToEleven because Starz. Possibly justified as ''Miracle Day'' underperformed in the ratings and no further seasons were commissioned.

** What makes this egregious, however, is that as a result some fans have sworn off ''ever'' touching ''Battlestar'' or ''anything'' written by the same writers ever again. This is part of ''Series/{{Caprica}}'s'' ratings problem - "fans" (the term is used loosely) ''actually '''[[WhatAnIdiot refuse]]''''' to watch the show, in spite of good reviews, out of a grudge against the previous show's writers (forgetting that the writing staff, while having some of the same writers, also has several new ones).

** 2016: They're moving the show to [=HBO=] from [=PBS=] and phased out most of the human characters ''especially Bob''? ''SCREW THIS!''

** 2016: They're moving the show to [=HBO=] from [=PBS=] and phased out most of the human characters ''especially Bob''? ''BLASPHEMY!''