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* {{Hypocrite}}: Ned disowns Todd for having a crisis of faith over the death of his mother, despite [[Recap/TheSimpsonsS11E14AloneAgainNaturaDiddily Ned having the same crisis of faith when Maude died]]. Then again, he may have considered it his shame, since he immediately drives to church while repeatedly saying "sorry" to God.

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Ned disowns Todd for having a crisis of faith over the death of his mother, despite [[Recap/TheSimpsonsS11E14AloneAgainNaturaDiddily Ned having the same crisis of faith when Maude died]]. Then again, he may have considered it his shame, since he immediately drives to church while repeatedly saying "sorry" to God.



* SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome: A rather tragic example. Todd has trouble remembering his Mother's face and what she looks like because of how young he is and how long its been since she died (ignoring the fact nobody has physically aged since she died, of course).
** Ned himself still grieves over the loss of both Maude and Edna and same with Homer and his mother.
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* AbusiveDad: Ned puts his faith before his own son, who's having a crisis of faith due to losing memories of his mother. He kicks him out of his home so he'd be scared by the Simpsons.

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* AbusiveDad: Ned puts his faith before his own son, who's having a crisis of faith due to losing memories of his mother. He kicks him out of his home so he'd be scared by the Simpsons.Simpsons so much he'll have no choice but to believe in God again.
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* KarmaHoudini: Hans Moleman hits Homer and Ned while driving and his only punishment is getting only 4 out of 5 stars from his passenger.

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* KarmaHoudini: Hans Moleman hits Homer and Ned while driving and his only punishment is getting only 4 out of 5 stars from his passenger. Given what [[ButtMonkey kind of Karma]] poor Moleman usually gets inflicted with, this was practically a KarmicJackpot for him.
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* LaserGuidedKarma: Ned disowns Todd and sends him to live with the Simpsons in the hope that they'd traumatize him into believing in God again. Later on, it's Ned's near-death experience that scares Todd back to believing in God, not the Simpsons. Adding onto that, in the epilogue, while Maude's ghost kisses both Rodd and Todd goodnight, Edna's ghost just laughs at Ned.

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* LaserGuidedKarma: Ned disowns Todd and sends him to live with the Simpsons in the hope that they'd traumatize him into believing in God again. Later on, it's Ned's near-death experience that scares Todd back to believing in God, not the Simpsons. Adding onto that, in the epilogue, while Maude's ghost kisses both Rodd Rod and Todd goodnight, Edna's ghost just laughs at Ned.



** Ned himself still grieves over the loss of both Maude and Edna and same with Homer and his Mother.

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** Ned himself still grieves over the loss of both Maude and Edna and same with Homer and his Mother.mother.
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** Ned tries emotionally manipulate Todd into believing in God again since he's having a crisis of faith due to Maude's death, then disowns him and kicks him out when it doesn't work.

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** Ned tries to emotionally manipulate Todd into believing in God again since he's having a crisis of faith due to Maude's death, then disowns him and kicks him out when it doesn't work.

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* CouchGag: ''The Flandereseses'' opening doesn't have a couch for them, because Ned happily donated it to the homeless, much to his kids' joy.



* NeverGotToSayGoodbye: One of Homer's biggest shames about his mother is that he never got to bid her farewell before she died, but he gets his wish when he meets her in heaven.



* SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome: A rather tragic example. Todd has trouble remembering his Mother's face and what she looks like because of how young he is and how long its been since she died.

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* SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome: A rather tragic example. Todd has trouble remembering his Mother's face and what she looks like because of how young he is and how long its been since she died.died (ignoring the fact nobody has physically aged since she died, of course).

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* AsideGlance: Ned gives two to the audience when he first condemns Rod for the sin of Pride, and later when Marge's last idea to read Todd "Everyone Poops" is turned down.
--->'''Ned''': Not me! (squicks at the audience)



* ADayInTheLimelight: This episode is centred on the Flanders, particularly Todd.

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* ADayInTheLimelight: This episode is centred centered on the Flanders, particularly Todd.
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%% ** Lisa praises Todd for renouncing his faith but later on she tries to convert him to Buddhism. Todd calls her out on it.
%% --->'''Todd:''' Maybe I'll reconsider your stupid beliefs when I come back as a worm!

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%% ** Lisa praises Todd for renouncing his faith but later on she tries to convert him to Buddhism.Buddhism, a completely different faith. Todd calls her out on it.
%% --->'''Todd:''' Maybe I'll reconsider your stupid beliefs when I come back as a worm!
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* TheBGrade: When Moleman hits Homer and Ned, Lindsay Nagle calls it "the worse Uber ride" and proceeds to give him 4 stars. Moleman reacts with a drawn out "Nooooooo...."

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* TheBGrade: When Moleman hits Homer and Ned, Lindsay Nagle calls it "the worse Uber ride" and proceeds to give him 4 stars. Moleman reacts with a drawn out "Nooooooo...."" Justified as [[ViolationOfCommonSense Uber drivers will be disciplined for three or fewer stars, so four stars is actually only barely passing.]]
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* SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome: A rather tragic example. Todd has trouble remembering his Mother's face and what she looks like because of how young he is and how long its been since she died.
** Ned himself still grieves over the loss of both Maude and Edna and same with Homer and his Mother.
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* RealityEnsues: A rather tragic example. Todd has trouble remembering his Mother's face and what she looks like because of how young he is and how long its been since she died.
** Ned himself still grieves over the loss of both Maude and Edna and same with Homer and his Mother.
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Not So Different has been reworked by TRS into Not So Different Remark


* NotSoDifferent:
** Homer ends up relating to Todd, due to knowing what it's like to be without a mother at a young age.
** At a loss over what to do with Todd, Ned ends up getting drunk with Homer and becoming his bar pal.
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%% --->'''Todd:''' Maybe I'll reconsider your stupid religion when I re-incarnate as a worm!

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%% --->'''Todd:''' Maybe I'll reconsider your stupid religion beliefs when I re-incarnate come back as a worm!

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* {{Flashback}}: Homer remembers being a child and overhearing his parents screaming at each other right before Mona left (even though "Mother Simpson" established that Homer was asleep when Mona went out to bomb the germ warfare lab, and she quietly told Abe that she was leaving, with Abe apathetically saying, "So long" while watching TV).

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* {{Flashback}}: Homer remembers being a child and overhearing his parents screaming at each other right before Mona left (even though "Mother Simpson" established that Homer was asleep when Mona went out to bomb the germ warfare lab, and she quietly told Abe that she was leaving, with Abe apathetically saying, "So long" while watching TV).left.



* HollywoodAtheist: Everyone in church gasps when Todd states that he doesn't believe in God... except Lisa who gives him a thumbs up.[[note]]Which is odd as in the episode where she converted to Buddhism, she didn't necessarily turn to Atheism.[[/note]]

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* HollywoodAtheist: Everyone in church gasps when Todd states that he doesn't believe in God... except Lisa who gives him a thumbs up.[[note]]Which is odd as in the episode where she converted to Buddhism, she didn't necessarily turn to Atheism.[[/note]]



* InsaneTrollLogic: See FelonyMisdemeanor.



* MagicalRealism: Homer and Ned actually meet God in Heaven. While God has appeared before, there is little to suggest it's a dream sequence. It's also implied that Todd and Bart's prayers helped them to recover.

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* MagicalRealism: MagicalRealism:
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Homer and Ned actually meet God in Heaven. While God has appeared before, there is little to suggest it's a dream sequence. It's also implied that Todd and Bart's prayers helped them to recover.
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'''Originally aired:''' December 1, 2019

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Isn't it likely that the God in question and Buddha are two different entities?


* {{Hypocrite}}:
** Ned disowns Todd for having a crisis of faith over the death of his mother, despite [[Recap/TheSimpsonsS11E14AloneAgainNaturaDiddily Ned having the same crisis of faith when Maude died]]. Then again, he may have considered it his shame, since he immediately drives to church while repeatedly saying "sorry" to God.
** Lisa praises Todd for renouncing his faith but later on she tries to convert him to Buddhism. Todd calls her out on it.
--->'''Todd:''' Maybe I'll reconsider your stupid religion when I re-incarnate as a worm!

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* {{Hypocrite}}:
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{{Hypocrite}}: Ned disowns Todd for having a crisis of faith over the death of his mother, despite [[Recap/TheSimpsonsS11E14AloneAgainNaturaDiddily Ned having the same crisis of faith when Maude died]]. Then again, he may have considered it his shame, since he immediately drives to church while repeatedly saying "sorry" to God.
%% ** Lisa praises Todd for renouncing his faith but later on she tries to convert him to Buddhism. Todd calls her out on it.
%% --->'''Todd:''' Maybe I'll reconsider your stupid religion when I re-incarnate as a worm!
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* AbusiveDad: Ned puts his faith before his own son, who's having a crisis of faith due to losing memories of his mother. He kicks him out of his home so he'd be scared by the Simpsons.


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* LackOfEmpathy: Ned disowns Todd for having a crisis of faith over the death of his mother, despite [[Recap/TheSimpsonsS11E14AloneAgainNaturaDiddily Ned having the same crisis of faith when Maude died]].

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* TheBGrade: When Moleman hits Homer and Ned, Lindsay Nagle calls it "the worse Uber ride" and proceeds to give him 4 stars. Moleman reacts with a drawn out "Nooooooo...."[[note]]This is TruthInTelevision for a lot of customer service jobs -- anything less than the highest rating is treated as a major failure.[[/note]]

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* TheBGrade: When Moleman hits Homer and Ned, Lindsay Nagle calls it "the worse Uber ride" and proceeds to give him 4 stars. Moleman reacts with a drawn out "Nooooooo...."[[note]]This is TruthInTelevision for a lot of customer service jobs -- anything less than the highest rating is treated as a major failure.[[/note]]"
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** Lisa doesn't hesitate to take advantage of Todd's faith crisis to try and convert him over to Buddhism. Todd rightful calls her out on it.

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** Lisa doesn't hesitate to take advantage of Todd's faith crisis to try and convert him over to Buddhism. Todd rightful rightfully calls her out on it.



* LaserGuidedKarma: Ned disowns Todd and sends him to live with the Simpsons in the hope that they'd traumatise him into believing in God again. Later on, it's Ned's near-death experience that scares Todd back to believing in God, not the Simpsons. Adding onto that, in the epilogue, while Maude's ghost kisses both Rodd and Todd goodnight, Edna's ghost just laughs at Ned.

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* LaserGuidedKarma: Ned disowns Todd and sends him to live with the Simpsons in the hope that they'd traumatise traumatize him into believing in God again. Later on, it's Ned's near-death experience that scares Todd back to believing in God, not the Simpsons. Adding onto that, in the epilogue, while Maude's ghost kisses both Rodd and Todd goodnight, Edna's ghost just laughs at Ned.
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* HollywoodAtheist: Everyone in church gasps when Todd states that he doesn't believe in God... except Lisa who gives him a thumbs up.[[note]]Which is odd as in the episode where she converted to Buddhism, she didn't necessarily turn to Atheism as she was originally upset over the commercialization of her church.[[/note]]

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* HollywoodAtheist: Everyone in church gasps when Todd states that he doesn't believe in God... except Lisa who gives him a thumbs up.[[note]]Which is odd as in the episode where she converted to Buddhism, she didn't necessarily turn to Atheism as she was originally upset over the commercialization of her church.Atheism.[[/note]]
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* InsaneTrollLogic: See FelonyMisdemeanor.
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* TheBGrade: When Moleman hits Homer and Ned, Lindsay Nagle calls it "the worse uber ride" and proceeds to give him 4 stars. Moleman reacts with a drawn out "Nooooooo...."[[note]]This is TruthInTelevision for a lot of customer service jobs -- anything less than the highest rating is treated as a major failure.[[/note]]

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* TheBGrade: When Moleman hits Homer and Ned, Lindsay Nagle calls it "the worse uber Uber ride" and proceeds to give him 4 stars. Moleman reacts with a drawn out "Nooooooo...."[[note]]This is TruthInTelevision for a lot of customer service jobs -- anything less than the highest rating is treated as a major failure.[[/note]]
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* KarmaHoudini: Hans Moleman hits Homer and Ned while driving and his only punishment is getting only 4 out of 5 stars from his passenger.
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* IHaveNoSon: Ned kicks out Todd to scare him into believing in God again.

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* IHaveNoSon: Or rather, "I Have Only One Son", as Ned kicks out Todd to scare him into believing in God again.



* SchoolPlay: Ned calls Reverend Lovejoy while he's at his daughter's ballet recital. The kids are stumbling all over the stage, and the parents, Lovejoy included, are desperate to leave. Dr. Hibbert's wife goes so far as to pull the fire alarm only to break off the handle.

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* SchoolPlay: Ned calls Reverend Lovejoy while he's at his daughter's ballet recital. The kids are stumbling all over the stage, and the parents, Lovejoy included, are desperate to leave. Dr. Hibbert's wife goes so far as to pull the fire alarm only to break off for the handle.handle to break.
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** Lisa doesn't hesitate to take advantage of Todd's faith crisis to try and convert him over to Buddhism. Tood rightful calls her out on it.

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** Lisa doesn't hesitate to take advantage of Todd's faith crisis to try and convert him over to Buddhism. Tood Todd rightful calls her out on it.

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** Lisa doesn't hesitate to take advantage of Todd's faith crisis to try and convert him over to Buddhism. Good rightful calls her out on it.

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** Lisa doesn't hesitate to take advantage of Todd's faith crisis to try and convert him over to Buddhism. Good Tood rightful calls her out on it.



* SwearJar: Ned has one and uses it. He also 3 other jars for impure thoughts, pants too tight, and untrimmed mustache.

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* SwearJar: Ned has one and uses it. He also 3 other jars for impure thoughts, pants too tight, and untrimmed mustache.mustache.
* WhatTheHellHero: Todd rightfully calls Lisa out when she tries to take advantage of his CrisisOfFaith to convert him to Buddhism.
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** Lisa doesn't hesitate to take advantage of Todd's faith crisis to try and convert him over to Buddhism.

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** Lisa doesn't hesitate to take advantage of Todd's faith crisis to try and convert him over to Buddhism. Good rightful calls her out on it.
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-->'''Todd:''' Maybe I'll reconsider your stupid religion when I re-incarnate as a worm!

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-->'''Todd:''' --->'''Todd:''' Maybe I'll reconsider your stupid religion when I re-incarnate as a worm!

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* IHaveNoSon: Ned kicks out Todd to scare him into believing in God again.



* {{Irony}}: Ned banishes Todd to the Simpsons in order to scare him into believing in God, but it's actually [[ParentalSubstitute Marge]] who convinces Todd to pray again. To drive this point further, it's Ned's near-death experience that scares Todd into listening to Marge.

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* {{Irony}}: {{Irony}}:
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Ned banishes Todd to the Simpsons in order to scare him into believing in God, but it's actually [[ParentalSubstitute Marge]] who convinces Todd to pray again. To drive this point further, it's Ned's near-death experience that scares Todd into listening to Marge.



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