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** Starfire refuses to leave Val-Yor to die despite Val-Yor's racism toward her, or even despite the fact that Val-Yor repeatedly refused her help.
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* FatalFlaw: Val-Yor's pride very nearly becomes a ''literal'' fatal flaw when he gets caught in a trap and refuses to accept Starfire's help; he would have perished had she not insisted on physically dragging him out.
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* TakeMyHand: Starfire shouts this at Val-Yor while attempting to rescue him from a trap; he refuses to do it, but she drags him out anyway.
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* BrokenPedestal: The Titans towards Val-Yor when they discover what a racist {{Jerkass}} he is when he calls Starfire "Troq". Of course, they only realize this once they all realize what the word actually means.
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* BrokenPedestal: The Titans towards Val-Yor when they discover what a racist {{Jerkass}} he is when he calls Starfire "Troq". Of course, they only realize this once they all realize what the word actually means.that he's been using a racial slur to describe Starfire.
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* FlatWhat: Robin's reaction to learning what Val-Yor has really been calling Starfire all this time. Very much ''[[PlayedForDrama not]]'' played for laughs: he sounds like he's ready to kill the guy. Luckily, Starfire calmly tells him that there are more important things than her feelings.
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* FlatWhat: Robin's reaction to learning what Val-Yor has really been calling Starfire all this time. Very much ''[[PlayedForDrama not]]'' played for laughs: he sounds like he's ready to kill the guy. Luckily, guy, although Starfire calmly tells him insists that there are seeing the mission through to completion is more important things than her feelings.
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* {{Foreshadowing}}: Val-Yor drops his friendly tone with the Titans the moment he notices Starfire.
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* {{Foreshadowing}}: Val-Yor drops his friendly tone with the Titans the moment he notices Starfire.Starfire, and notes that they "have a Tamaranean" as if describing a pet.
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* ItIsDehumanizing: Val-Yor, seeing Starfire, is surprised that the Titans "have a Tamaranean". His tone made it seem like he thought they kept her as a pet before Robin called her part of the team..
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* ItIsDehumanizing: Val-Yor, seeing Starfire, is surprised that the Titans "have a Tamaranean". His tone made it seem like he thought they kept her as a pet before Robin called her part of the team.. team.
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* RejectedApology: Starfire tries to apologize to Val-Yor for almost destroying his ship. [[KickTheDog He cruelly rejects her apology by calling her a "stupid Troq."]] This is sadly justified...not Val-Yor's cruel behavior towards Starfire mind you, but the fact that Starfire didn't even need to apologize to the jerk in the first place.
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* RejectedApology: Starfire tries to apologize to Val-Yor for almost destroying his ship. [[KickTheDog He cruelly rejects her apology by calling her a "stupid Troq."]] This is sadly justified...not Val-Yor's cruel behavior towards Starfire Starfire, mind you, but the fact that Starfire didn't even need to apologize to the jerk in the first place.
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* AffectionateNickname: Val-Yor gives each of the Titans one of these... except Starfire, who he calls by the [[FantasticSlurs anti-Tamaranean slur]] "Troq". Cyborg, however, mistakenly thinks "Troq" is this trope, but learns better after a moment where he's InnocentlyInsensitive.
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* AffectionateNickname: Val-Yor gives each of the Titans one of these... except Starfire, who he calls by the [[FantasticSlurs anti-Tamaranean slur]] "Troq". Cyborg, however, mistakenly thinks Cyborg asks if "Troq" is this trope, also a nickname. When Starfire says it means "nothing," he uses the word, in a case of InnocentlyInsensitive. This causes Star to become very angry and explains that "Troq" doesn't have no meaning, as Cyborg assumed from her response, but learns better after a moment where he's InnocentlyInsensitive.that "Troq" means she ''is'' "nothing."
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* FantasticSlurs: To call someone a "troq" is to call them "nothing" or "worthless".
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* FantasticSlurs: To call someone a "troq" "Troq" is to call them "nothing" or "worthless".
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* GetOut: When Val-Yor weakly defends his racist slur against Starfire wasn't a big deal, Robin interrupts and coldly tells him it's time for him to go.
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* GetOut: When Val-Yor weakly defends his racist slur against Starfire Starfire, saying it wasn't a big deal, Robin interrupts and coldly tells him it's time for him to go.
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* RejectedApology: Starfire tries to apologize to Val-Yor for almost destroying his ship. [[KickTheDog He cruelly rejects her apology by calling her a "stupid troq."]] This is sadly justified...not Val-Yor's cruel behavior towards Starfire mind you, but the fact that Starfire didn't even need to apologize to the jerk in the first place.
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* RejectedApology: Starfire tries to apologize to Val-Yor for almost destroying his ship. [[KickTheDog He cruelly rejects her apology by calling her a "stupid troq.Troq."]] This is sadly justified...not Val-Yor's cruel behavior towards Starfire mind you, but the fact that Starfire didn't even need to apologize to the jerk in the first place.
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* ExactWords: When Cyborg initially notices that Starfire seems bothered by Val-Yor calling her "Troq", he asks her what it means, to which she replies, "It means nothing". Due to her broken English, Cyborg misinterprets this as "not being a big deal", which leads to his InnocentlyInsensitive moment, and then the WhamLine when Starfire tells him what "nothing" ''really'' means whenever Val-Yor calls her "Troq".
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* ExactWords: When Cyborg initially notices that Starfire seems bothered by Val-Yor calling her "Troq", he asks her what it means, to which she replies, "It means nothing". Due to her broken English, Cyborg misinterprets this as "not being a big deal", which leads to his InnocentlyInsensitive moment, and then the WhamLine when Starfire tells explains to him what "nothing" ''really'' means whenever Val-Yor calls her "Troq".
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* ExactWords: When Cyborg initially notices that Starfire seems bothered by Val-Yor calling her "Troq", he asks her what it means, to which she replies, "It means Nothing". Due to her broken English, Cyborg misinterprets this as it not being a big deal, which leads to his InnocentlyInsensitive moment, and then the WhamLine when Starfire tells him what "Troq" ''really'' means.
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* ExactWords: When Cyborg initially notices that Starfire seems bothered by Val-Yor calling her "Troq", he asks her what it means, to which she replies, "It means Nothing". nothing". Due to her broken English, Cyborg misinterprets this as it not "not being a big deal, deal", which leads to his InnocentlyInsensitive moment, and then the WhamLine when Starfire tells him what "Troq" "nothing" ''really'' means.means whenever Val-Yor calls her "Troq".
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* RiddleForTheAges: It is never clarified why Val-Yor and others look down on Starfire's species as "inferior".
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* ItIsDehumanizing: Val-Yor, seeing Starfire, is surprised that the Titans "have a Tamaranean". His tone made it seem like he thought they kept her as a pet before Robin called her part of the team.
* LongLostUncleAesop: Val-Yor, who exists to show that racism is bad and that some people like him will not change no matter what.
* LongLostUncleAesop: Val-Yor, who exists to show that racism is bad and that some people like him will not change no matter what.
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* ItIsDehumanizing: Val-Yor, seeing Starfire, is surprised that the Titans "have a Tamaranean". His tone made it seem like he thought they kept her as a pet before Robin called her part of the team.
* LongLostUncleAesop: Val-Yor, who exists to show that racism is bad and that some people like him will not change no matter what.team..
* LongLostUncleAesop: Val-Yor, who exists to show that racism is bad and that some people like him will not change no matter what.
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* EveryoneHasStandards: Val-Yor, for all his unapologetic bigotry, condones genocide.
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* EveryoneHasStandards: Val-Yor, for all his unapologetic bigotry, condones does not condone genocide.
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* YouAreACreditToYourRace: Deconstructed. When Val-Yor says that Starfire is "one of the good ones," none of the Titans take it well. Raven asks point-blank why [[LampshadeHanging why something that is supposedly a compliment still sounds like an insult]].
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* YouAreACreditToYourRace: Deconstructed. When Val-Yor says that Starfire is "one of the good ones," none of the Titans take it well. Raven asks point-blank why [[LampshadeHanging why something that is supposedly a compliment still sounds like an insult]].
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** Val-Yor hates Tameranians, and calls them racial slurs like "Troq". It's also hinted at that not only Val-Yor and his species, but other aliens also treat Tameranians this way.
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** Val-Yor hates Tameranians, and calls them racial slurs like "Troq". It's also hinted at that not only Val-Yor and his species, Val-Yor, but other aliens also treat Tameranians this way.
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* RejectedApology: Starfire tries to apologize to Val-Yor for almost destroying his ship. He cruelly rejects her apology by calling her a "stupid troq." This is sadly justified...not Val-Yor's cruel behavior towards Starfire mind you, but the fact that Starfire didn't even need to apologize to the jerk in the first place.
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* RejectedApology: Starfire tries to apologize to Val-Yor for almost destroying his ship. [[KickTheDog He cruelly rejects her apology by calling her a "stupid troq." "]] This is sadly justified...not Val-Yor's cruel behavior towards Starfire mind you, but the fact that Starfire didn't even need to apologize to the jerk in the first place.
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* YouAreACreditToYourRace: When Val-Yor says that Starfire is "one of the good ones," none of the Titans take it well. Raven asks point-blank why [[LampshadeHanging why something that is supposedly a compliment still sounds like an insult]].
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* YouAreACreditToYourRace: Deconstructed. When Val-Yor says that Starfire is "one of the good ones," none of the Titans take it well. Raven asks point-blank why [[LampshadeHanging why something that is supposedly a compliment still sounds like an insult]].
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--> '''Cyborg:''' Star...
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--> '''Cyborg:''' ''(looks horrified)'' [[OhCrap Star...]]
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* CorruptedCharacterCopy: Val-Yor looks an awful lot like ComicBook/CaptainAtom.
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* CorruptedCharacterCopy: Val-Yor looks an awful lot like ComicBook/CaptainAtom.ComicBook/CaptainAtom and has some similarities to him beyond that (for example both are pilots). However Captain Atom's faults do not extend to outright racism.
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* EveryoneHasStandards: Val-Yor, for all his unapologetic bigotry, condones genocide.
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* BrokenPedestal: The Titans towards Val-Yor when they discover what a racist {{Jerkass}} he is when he calls Starfire "Troq".
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* BrokenPedestal: The Titans towards Val-Yor when they discover what a racist {{Jerkass}} he is when he calls Starfire "Troq". Of course, they only realize this once they all realize what the word actually means.
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This is Selective Obliviousness.
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* ProtagonistCenteredMorality: The Titans seem to not have any problem with Val-Yor when he asks to help him kill off a race of sentient robotic beings, but when they find out how Val-Yor was treating Starfire, they start treating him with hostility, not seeming to care about anyone else that Val-Yor was affecting but their teammates.
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* SelectiveObliviousness: The Titans seem to not have any problem with Val-Yor when he asks to help him kill off a race of sentient robotic beings, but when they find out how Val-Yor was treating Starfire, they start treating him with hostility, not seeming to care about anyone else that Val-Yor was affecting but their teammates.
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Realistic, but not surprisingly.
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* SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome: Unlike other {{Very Special Episode}}s where the racist learns their lesson and ends their prejudice, Starfire saving Val-Yor didn't end his prejudice at all, and may never end. At best, he said Starfire is "one of the good ones" (and the Titans don't accept the backhanded compliment).
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* RejectedApology: Starfire tries to apologize to Val-Yor for almost destroying his ship. He cruelly rejects her apology by calling her a "stupid troq." This is adly justified...not Val-Yor's cruel behavior, but the fact that Starfire didn't even need to apologize to the jerk in the first place.
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* RejectedApology: Starfire tries to apologize to Val-Yor for almost destroying his ship. He cruelly rejects her apology by calling her a "stupid troq." This is adly sadly justified...not Val-Yor's cruel behavior, behavior towards Starfire mind you, but the fact that Starfire didn't even need to apologize to the jerk in the first place.
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* RejectedApology: Starfire tries to apologize to Val-Yor for almost destroying his ship. He cruelly rejects her apology by calling her a "stupid troq." This is adly justified...not Val-Yor's cruel behavior, but the fact that Starfire didn't even need to apologize to the jerk in the first place.
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--> '''Robin:''' (''whispering to Starfire'') Starfire, why didn't you say something?
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--> '''Robin:''' ''[[TranquilFury What?]]''
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--> '''Robin:''' ''[[TranquilFury What?]]'''''''[[TranquilFury What?]]'''''
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--> '''Robin:''' '''What?!'''
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--> '''Robin:''' '''What?!'''''[[TranquilFury What?]]''
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--> (''Cyborg whispers to Robin and tells him what "Troq" really means)
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--> (''Cyborg whispers to Robin and tells him what "Troq" really means)means'')
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** After finding out from Cyborg on what Troq really means, Robin gives a slight one to Starfire for not saying something sooner.
--> '''Robin:''' (''whispering to Starfire'') Starfire, why didn't you say something?
--> '''Robin:''' (''whispering to Starfire'') Starfire, why didn't you say something?
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* TranquilFury: When Cyborg tells Robin exactly what Troq means, his voice doesn't rise, but the venom in it is audible. He
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* TranquilFury: When Cyborg tells Robin exactly what Troq means, his voice doesn't rise, but the venom in it is audible. He
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* BrokenPedestal: The Titans towards Val-Yor when they discover what a racist {{Jerkass}} he is.
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* BrokenPedestal: The Titans towards Val-Yor when they discover what a racist {{Jerkass}} he is.is when he calls Starfire "Troq".
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* DiscriminateAndSwitch: Cyborg, who has been judged by his appearance, but not because he's [[TokenMinority black]], but because he's part robot.
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* DiscriminateAndSwitch: Cyborg, who has been judged by his appearance, but not because he's [[TokenMinority black]], but because he's part robot. It looks like Cyborg and Starfire are [[NotSoDifferentRemark not so different for that matter.]]
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* ExactWords: When Cyborg initially notices that Starfire seems bothered by Val-Yor calling her "Troq", he asks her what it means, to which she replies, "It means Nothing". Due to her broken English, Cyborg misinterprets this as it not being a big deal, which leads to his InnocentlyInsensitive moment, and then the WhamLine.
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* ExactWords: When Cyborg initially notices that Starfire seems bothered by Val-Yor calling her "Troq", he asks her what it means, to which she replies, "It means Nothing". Due to her broken English, Cyborg misinterprets this as it not being a big deal, which leads to his InnocentlyInsensitive moment, and then the WhamLine.WhamLine when Starfire tells him what "Troq" ''really'' means.
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* FlatWhat: Robin's reaction to learning what Val-Yor has really been calling Starfire all this time. Very much ''[[PlayedForDrama not]]'' played for laughs: he sounds like he's ready to kill the guy.
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* FlatWhat: Robin's reaction to learning what Val-Yor has really been calling Starfire all this time. Very much ''[[PlayedForDrama not]]'' played for laughs: he sounds like he's ready to kill the guy. Luckily, Starfire calmly tells him that there are more important things than her feelings.
--> (''Cyborg whispers to Robin and tells him what "Troq" really means)
--> '''Robin:''' '''What?!'''
--> '''Cyborg:''' And that's what he's being calling her this whole time.
--> (''Cyborg whispers to Robin and tells him what "Troq" really means)
--> '''Robin:''' '''What?!'''
--> '''Cyborg:''' And that's what he's being calling her this whole time.
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* InnocentlyInsensitive: Cyborg calls Starfire "Troqie" before he understands what it means. This leads Starfire to explain that it is a racial slur, and Cyborg to begin to see Val-Yor's true colors.
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* InnocentlyInsensitive: Cyborg calls Starfire "Troqie" before he understands what it means. This leads Starfire to explain that it is a racial slur, slur against Tamaraneans, and Cyborg to begin to see Val-Yor's true colors.
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'''Cyborg:''' *Confused* But Val-Yor calls you Troq all the time!\\
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'''Cyborg:''' *Confused* (''Confused'') But Val-Yor calls you Troq all the time!\\
--> '''Cyborg:''' Star...
--> '''Starfire:''' There are those on other planets who feel Tamaraneans are inferior. "Troq" is what they call us.
--> '''Cyborg:''' So he's calling you a terrible name. And you know that if you punch him out, it'll just confirm all the bad stuff he thinks about you.
--> '''Starfire:''' Yes.
--> '''Starfire:''' There are those on other planets who feel Tamaraneans are inferior. "Troq" is what they call us.
--> '''Cyborg:''' So he's calling you a terrible name. And you know that if you punch him out, it'll just confirm all the bad stuff he thinks about you.
--> '''Starfire:''' Yes.
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* TheNicknamer: Val-Yor comes up with innocuous nicknames for the other Titans: Spike, Metal Butt, Sunshine and Champ (Robin, Cyborg, Raven and Beast Boy respectively). At first, they assume that "Troq" is simply a nickname they don't understand, and are ''pissed off'' once they discover the meaning.
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* TheNicknamer: Val-Yor comes up with innocuous nicknames for the other Titans: Spike, Metal Butt, Sunshine and Champ (Robin, Cyborg, Raven and Beast Boy respectively). At first, they assume that "Troq" is simply a nickname they don't understand, and are ''pissed off'' once they discover the meaning.meaning, which means "worthless" and "nothing".
* NotSoDifferentRemark: Cyborg and Starfire can both relate on what it's like to be judged by others because of how they look: For Cyborg, he's part robot and for Starfire, she a Tamaranean (who Val-Yor greatly despises).
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* TranquilFury: When Cyborg tells Robin exactly what Troq means, his voice doesn't rise, but the venom in it is audible.
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* TranquilFury: When Cyborg tells Robin exactly what Troq means, his voice doesn't rise, but the venom in it is audible. He
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* YouAreACreditToYourRace: When Val-Yor says that Starfire is "one of the good ones," none of the Titans take it well.
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* YouAreACreditToYourRace: When Val-Yor says that Starfire is "one of the good ones," none of the Titans take it well. Raven asks point-blank why [[LampshadeHanging why something that is supposedly a compliment still sounds like an insult]].
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* YouAreACreditToYourRace: When Val-Yor says that Starfire is "one of the good ones," none of the Titans take it well.well.
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