History Quotes / TheDarkAgeofComicBooks

->''"It's time to talk about [[InAWorld a period of bleakness, a period of twisted humanoid aberrations and the decay of human morality]]. This is also known as [[FauxHorrific the Dark Age of Comics.]]"''
-->-- '''[[WebVideo/AtopTheFourthWall Linkara]]'''

->''"For a brief period during {{the Clone Saga}}, before Bob Harras waded in and decided NormanOsborn needed to come back to be Peter’s BigBad, the Green Goblin trademark was just kind of sitting around unused...hey, why not work a ''heroic'' Green Goblin into the Spider-man universe? ('Because that’s fucking stupid,' isn’t an acceptable answer, either.)... The fact that Urich tried to call himself Green Goblin as a hero is the part of all this stupidity that really kills me. He could’ve used, like, the Flying Prankster or Happy Halloween Man, or anything that hadn’t been used by a guy who killed people. Instead, he opts to do the equivalent of dressing up in a magical Adolf Hitler costume and striding out to become a superhero. This is not a fucking good idea. People aren’t going to take it well. [[LeeroyJenkins That didn’t stop motherfucking Phil Urich.]]"''
-->--'''''Topless Robot''''', [[http://www.toplessrobot.com/2008/11/the_13_dumbest_spiderman_storiesjust_from_the_clon.php "The 13 Dumbest Spider-Man Stories.. Just From The Clone Saga"]]

->''"At the time, it was a dreadful setback for the idea of 'grown-up' superhero comics. In hindsight, it was America's inevitable reaction to ''Watchmen'', and the only response that could possibly be effective: Fuck realism, we just want our superheroes to [[TestosteronePoisoning look cool and kick ten thousand kinds of ass.]]"''

->''"Meet Switchblade [=McGurk=], another [[NinetiesAntiHero punk-looking anti-hero]] running around a [[CityNoir depressing post-apocalyptic city]] that's ripped off from Film/BladeRunner. [[DarkerAndEdgier Crammed with plenty of violence and sleaze]] that readers will defend as 'cutting edge."''
-->-- ''Magazine/{{MAD}}'' #382, "If Truth in Advertising Laws Applied to Comic Books"

-->--'''Creator/GrantMorrisson''' on the DarkAgeOfComicBooks, ''Supergods''

->''Revamped for {{the nineties}}!''\\

''When nobody asked for it!''

->''Cause no one wants to know the man who stands for things we outgrow\\

[[CrapsackWorld No room here for the bold]]''

->''"Meet Switchblade [=McGurk=], another [[NinetiesAntiHero punk-looking anti-hero]] running around a [[CityNoir depressing post-apocalyptic city]] that's ripped off from Film/BladeRunner. [[DarkerAndEdgier Crammed with plenty of violence and sleaze]] that readers will defend as 'cutting edge."''
-->-- ''Magazine/{{MAD}}'' #382, "If Truth in Advertising Laws Applied to Comic Books"

->''"For a brief period during {{the Clone Saga}}, before Bob Harras waded in and decided NormanOsborn needed to come back to be Peter’s BigBad, the Green Goblin trademark was just kind of sitting around unused. After stories of the Hobgoblin and (ugh) Demogoblin, and with all of the Osborn clan dead or about six years old, it seemed unlikely there’d be a serious attempt at a new Goblin villain. So… hey, why not work a ''heroic'' Green Goblin into the Spider-man universe? (“Because that’s fucking stupid,” isn’t an acceptable answer, either.)... The fact that Urich tried to call himself Green Goblin as a hero is the part of all this stupidity that really kills me. He could’ve used, like, the Flying Prankster or Happy Halloween Man, or anything that hadn’t been used by a guy who killed people. Instead, he opts to do the equivalent of dressing up in a magical Adolf Hitler costume and striding out to become a superhero. This is not a fucking good idea. People aren’t going to take it well. [[LeeroyJenkins That didn’t stop motherfucking Phil Urich.]]"''

->''"For a brief period during {{the Clone Saga}}, before Bob Harras waded in and decided NormanOsborn needed to come back to be Peter’s BigBad, the Green Goblin trademark was just kind of sitting around unused. After stories of the Hobgoblin and (ugh) Demogoblin, and with all of the Osborn clan dead or about six years old, it seemed unlikely there’d be a serious attempt at a new Goblin villain. So… hey, why not work a ''heroic'' Green Goblin into the Spider-man universe? (“Because that’s fucking stupid,” isn’t an acceptable answer, either.)... The fact that Urich tried to call himself Green Goblin as a hero is the part of all this stupidity that really kills me. He could’ve used, like, the Flying Prankster or Happy Halloween Man, or anything that hadn’t been used by a guy who killed people. Instead, he opts to do the equivalent of dressing up in a magical Adolf Hitler costume and striding out to become a superhero. This is not a fucking good idea. People aren’t going to take it well. That didn’t stop motherfucking Phil Urich."''

->''Revamped for the nineties!''\\

''[[RobLiefeld Pointy elbows]] and lots of lightning!''\\
''[[TrueArtIsAngsty Edgy and angry]], so zesty and tangy!''\\

->''"For a brief period during {{the Clone Saga}}, before Bob Harras waded in and decided NormanOsborn needed to come back to be Peter’s BigBad, the Green Goblin trademark was just kind of sitting around unused. After stories of the Hobgoblin and (ugh) Demogoblin, and with all of the Osborn clan dead or about six years old, it seemed unlikely there’d be a serious attempt at a new Goblin villain. So… hey, why not work a ''heroic'' Green Goblin into the Spider-man universe? (“Because that’s fucking stupid,” isn’t an acceptable answer, either.)"''

->''"As stated, it was the 90s when this comic was written. Creator/AlanMoore and Creator/FrankMiller's darker, grittier comics were already huge in America. Everyone was more inclined to damn [[TrueArtSticksItToTheMan The Man]] and less inclined to salute him, and so {{Superman}}'s principles of [[ForGreatJustice justice and truth and whatnot]] were looking more and more old fashioned every day... The creators felt that Superman's moral, by-the-books boyscout routine was getting a little hokey, so they went ahead and violated everything that Superman stood for by having him grow a wicked beard, go shithouse-crazy on a couple of Hitlers and burn himself alive, and it was still one of the worst comics of all time."''

->''Cause no one wants to know the man who stands for things we outgrow''\\
''He's too noble and too blind''\\
''We're all older now and we don't need someone to care about''\\
''The innocence we left behind''\\
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''Don't touch that dial''\\
''It's just that goodness is out of style''\\
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''Be dark, be cold (So conflicted)''\\
''No hand to hold (Heart constricted)''\\
''Dark knight, bright soul,(We're addicted)''\\
''No room here for the bold''

->''"As stated, it was the 90s when this comic was written. Creator/AlanMoore and Creator/FrankMiller's darker, grittier comics were already huge in America. Everyone was more inclined to damn [[TrueArtSticksItToTheMan The Man]] and less inclined to salute him, and so {{Superman}}'s principles of justice and truth and whatnot were looking [[SillyRabbitIdealismIsForKids more and more old fashioned]] every day... The creators felt that Superman's moral, by-the-books boyscout routine was getting a little hokey, so they went ahead and violated everything that Superman stood for by having him grow a wicked beard, go shithouse-crazy on a couple of Hitlers and burn himself alive, and it was still one of the worst comics of all time."''

->''Meet Switchblade [=McGurk=], another [[NinetiesAntiHero punk-looking anti-hero]] running around a [[CityNoir depressing post-apocalyptic city]] that's ripped off from Film/BladeRunner. [[DarkerAndEdgier Crammed with plenty of violence and sleaze]] that readers will defend as "cutting edge."''
-->-- ''Magazine/{{MAD}}'' #382, "If Truth in Advertising Laws Applied to Comic Books"

->''I tend to think that I've seen a lot of things over the past 15 years that have been a bizarre echo of somebody else's bad mood. It's not even their bad mood, it's mine, but they're still working out the ramifications of me being a bit grumpy 15 years ago.''
-->-- '''Creator/AlanMoore''' on what he partially set in motion, [[http://www.avclub.com/article/alan-moore-13740 AV Club interview]]

->''As stated, it was the 90s when this comic was written. Creator/AlanMoore and Creator/FrankMiller's darker, grittier comics were already huge in America. Everyone was more inclined to damn The Man and less inclined to salute him, and so Superman's principles of justice and truth and whatnot were looking more and more old fashioned every day... The creators felt that Superman's moral, by-the-books boyscout routine was getting a little hokey, so they went ahead and violated everything that Superman stood for by having him grow a wicked beard, go shithouse-crazy on a couple of Hitlers and burn himself alive, and it was still one of the worst comics of all time.''
-->-- '''Website/{{Cracked}}''' on ''SupermanAtEarthsEnd''

->''"It's time to talk about a period of'' '''bleakness''', ''a period of'' '''twisted humanoid aberrations''' ''and the'' '''decay''' ''of human'' '''morality!''' ''This is also known as the Dark Age of Comics."''
-->-- '''[[WebVideo/AtopTheFourthWall Linkara]]'''

''Pointy elbows and lots of lightning!''\\
''Edgy and angry, so zesty and tangy!''\\

->''These 'no-nonsense' solutions of yours just don't hold water in a [[TheSilverAgeOfComicBooks complex world of jet powered apes and time travel]]."

-->--'''Superman'''

-->-- ''Magazine/{{MAD}}'', "If Truth in Advertising Laws Applied to Comic Books"

->''As stated, it was the 90s when this comic was written. AlanMoore and FrankMiller's darker, grittier comics were already huge in America. Everyone was more inclined to damn The Man and less inclined to salute him, and so Superman's principles of justice and truth and whatnot were looking more and more old fashioned every day... The creators felt that Superman's moral, by-the-books boyscout routine was getting a little hokey, so they went ahead and violated everything that Superman stood for by having him grow a wicked beard, go shithouse-crazy on a couple of Hitlers and burn himself alive, and it was still one of the worst comics of all time.''

-->--'''AlanMoore''' on what he partially set in motion.

->''Meet Switchblade [=McGurk=], another [[NinetiesAntiHero punk-looking anti-hero]] running around a [[CityNoir depressing post-apocalyptic city]] that's ripped off from BladeRunner. [[DarkerAndEdgier Crammed with plenty of violence and sleaze]] that readers will defend as "cutting edge."''

-->-- ''MADMagazine'', "If Truth in Advertising Laws Applied to Comic Books"

-->-- '''[[WebOriginal/AtopTheFourthWall Linkara]]'''

-->-- '''WebOriginal/{{Cracked}}''' on ''SupermanAtEarthsEnd''

-->-- '''{{Cracked}}''' on ''SupermanAtEarthsEnd''

-->-- '''[[AtopTheFourthWall Linkara]]'''

-> Oh, gosh, where to begin? Probably with the general creation of this story. As stated, it was the 90s when this comic was written. Alan Moore and Frank Miller's darker, grittier comics were already huge in America. Everyone was more inclined to damn The Man and less inclined to salute him, and so Superman's principles of justice and truth and whatnot were looking more and more old fashioned every day. Instead of stepping up to defend, you know, the law, the creators decided to toughen/crazy Superman up by moving him into the future. In a post-apocalyptic Gotham, where children are hunted by robots, Superman shows up angry and beardy and ready to fight. The robots were created by "The DNA Diktators," designed to wipe out the human race so we can start over. These Diktators have also taken to cloning the late Batman's DNA so, in addition to child-murdering robots, there are a bunch of evil Batman-clones flying around, and none of this is sitting too well with the newly re-vamped version of homeless Superman.

-> So, Superman heads underground to track down the DNA Diktators and stop them, as the Man of Steel is wont to do. Spoiler alert: The DNA Diktators are twin clones of Hitler.

-> Not only did this comic decide to clone Hitler (twice), but they also decided to retcon American History by saying that these clones had been alive for hundreds of years and, as a result, WWII never officially ended.

-> It's actually sort of a powerful moment. Superman has a fairly strict no-killing policy, as that would interfere with his ironclad moral code, it's sort of what makes him who he is. On the other hand, it is the future and he's faced with two clones of arguably the most evil man on the planet, and also he has a beard. This is, we can say, the toughest and beardiest test of Superman's willpower. Will he stick to his code and turn the Hitlers over to the authorities to make sure that justice is done?

-> No. He finds the biggest most impractical gun in the world and shoots the piss out of them. Like, right out of them. And the shit frosting that tops off this abortion cake? He celebrates his victory against the Hitlers by retrieving Batman's corpse...

-> ...and cremating himself.

-> Yep. No more Truth, Justice and the American way. The creators felt that Superman's moral, by-the-books boyscout routine was getting a little hokey, so they went ahead and violated everything that Superman stood for by having him grow a wicked beard, go shithouse-crazy on a couple of Hitlers and burn himself alive, and it was still one of the worst comics of all time.
-->-- '''{{Cracked}} on "SupermanAtEarthsEnd"'''

-->--[[AtopTheFourthWall Linkara]]

->''"Everybody! E-e-e-everybody!''
->''Everybody! E-e-e-everybody!''
->''Revamped for the nineties!''
->''So much more exciting!''

->''Pointy elbows and lots of lightning!''
->''Edgy and angry, so zesty and tangy!''
->''There's new demographics''
->''When nobody asked for it!''

->''Everybody! E-e-e-everybody!''
->''Right now!"''
-->- "Xeriouxly Forxe" theme song [[http://homestarrunner.com/aprilfool10.html (Homestar Runner April fool's toon)]]

-->'''Superman'''

-->-- '''{{Cracked}} on "Superman: At Earth's End"'''

->''Meet Switchblade [=McGurk=], another [[NinetiesAntiHero punk-looking anti-hero]] running around a depressing post-apocalyptic city that's ripped off from BladeRunner. [[DarkerAndEdgier Crammed with plenty of violence and sleaze]] that readers will defend as "cutting edge."''

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