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'''Mike''': Especially since ''I'm'' already better at being one of you than ''all of you'' are!
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-->-- '''Creator/RogerEbert''', on ZhangYimou's ''Flowers of War''
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-> ''“There needs to be white people who do the right thing, there needs to be black people who do the right thing. And someone does the right thing. And so who cares who does the right thing, as long as the right thing is achieved?”''
-->-- '''[[https://news.vice.com/story/oscar-nominated-hidden-figures-was-whitewashed-but-it-didnt-have-to-be Theodore Melfi]]''', director of ''Film/HiddenFigures'', explaining why he includes [[VeryLooselyBasedOnATrueStory a fictional scene]] in which the white male director of NASA desegregates NASA’s bathrooms, when in reality Katherine Jackson, the black female protagonist, [[RefugeInAudacity simply used the white bathrooms without seeking anyone’s permission]].
-> ''“There’s no need for ''Film/HiddenFigures'' to [[VeryLooselyBasedOnATrueStory follow the true-to-life story to the letter—it’s not a documentary]]. But if the raw material is so powerful and interesting, why did the writers need to add a white guy who ‘does the right thing’? The answer to that question is pretty obvious. Black people wouldn’t be bothered by a movie that shows white characters who are oppressive at worst and [[BystanderSyndrome aloof and unhelpful at best]], anymore than women would be bothered by the male characters in ''Literature/TheStepfordWives''. So this kind of alteration only serves to soothe the conscience of white people. That’s the purpose of the White Savior trope—to provide a white character that allows white viewers to feel good about themselves. In this case, it means that white a person doesn’t have to think about the possibility that, were they around back in the 1960s South, they might have been one of the bad ones. Or the possibility that in 50 years, when someone makes a movie about 2017 America, that their own behavior will qualify '''them''' as one of the bad ones.”''
-->-- '''Dexter Thomas''', “[[https://news.vice.com/story/oscar-nominated-hidden-figures-was-whitewashed-but-it-didnt-have-to-be Space So White]]”
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->''"To treat my nation like we don't know how to fight. We, the Lakota, who are responsible-- the first nation to ever militarily defeat the United States of America on the field of battle, and [[Creator/KevinCostner Lawrence of the Plains]] has to teach ''[[ProudWarriorRace us]]'' how to fight?!"''
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->''"To treat my nation like we don't know how to fight. We, the Lakota, who are responsible-- the first nation to ever militarily defeat the United States of America on the field of battle, and [[Creator/KevinCostner Lawrence of the Plains]] has to teach ''[[ProudWarriorRace ''[[ProudWarriorRaceGuy us]]'' how to fight?!"''
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-->--'''Creator/RussellMeans''' in the documentary ''Reel Injun'', on ''Film/DancesWithWolves''
-->--'''Creator/RussellMeans''' in the documentary ''Reel Injun'', on ''Film/DancesWithWolves''
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->'''Audrey:''' In case you didn't notice, [[{{Eagleland}} Heart of America]] is now leading us.
->'''Debra:''' He now speaks for and represents all Native Americans.
-->-- '''[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1F1YyDPZLX8 Detective Heart of America: The Final Freedom]]'''
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->''"Science fiction comes into visibility first in those countries most heavily involved in imperialist projects -- France and England -- and then gains popularity in the United States, Germany, and Russia as those countries also enter into more and more serious imperial competition. Most important, no informed reader can doubt that allusions to colonial history and situations are ubiquitous features of early science fiction motifs and plots. It is not a matter of asking whether but of determining precisely how and to what extent the stories engage colonialism."''
-->--'''John Reider''', ''Colonialism and the Emergence of Science Fiction
-->--'''John Reider''', ''Colonialism and the Emergence of Science Fiction
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-> ''"If you need any confirmation of how cool the Samurai warriors of Japan were, look no further than the film ''Film/TheLastSamurai''. These people managed to survive and kick ass even with Tom Cruise in their midst. It'd be like running a marathon while dragging a dead cow behind you."''
-->-- ''Website/{{Cracked}}''
-->-- ''Website/{{Cracked}}''
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->''"When they put together this costume I said. 'Imagine an African, white Christ from space.' And this is what they came back with: An African white space Christ. Well, that's just the concept, you know, obviously and I'm not saying I'm African white space Christ, that's not for me to say. That's for ''[[NoExceptYes other people]]'' to say. It's for other people to say if [[AnswersToTheNameOfGod they think I'm like Jesus]]."''
-->-- '''Aldous Snow''', ''Film/GetHimToTheGreek''
-->-- '''Aldous Snow''', ''Film/GetHimToTheGreek''
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-->--'''{{SFDebris}}''', "Tattoo"
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-->--'''{{SFDebris}}''' on ''Series/StarTrekVoyager'', "Tattoo"
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-> ''One of the ancient ploys of the film industry is to make a film about non-white people and find a way, however convoluted, to tell it from the point of view of a white character.''
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-->-- '''Aldous Snow''', ''Film/GetHimToTheGreek''
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->"When they put together this costume I said. 'Imagine an African, white Christ from space.' And this is what they came back with: An African white space Christ. Well, that's just the concept, you know, obviously and I'm not saying I'm African white space Christ, that's not for me to say. That's for ''[[NoExceptYes other people]]'' to say. It's for other people to say if [[AGodAmI they think I'm like Jesus]]."
-->-- '''Aldous Snow''', ''Film/GetHimToTheGreek''
->''These are movies about white guilt. Our main white characters realize that they are complicit in a system which is destroying aliens, AKA people of color - their cultures, their habitats, and their populations. The whites realize this when they begin to assimilate into the "alien" cultures and see things from a new perspective. To purge their overwhelming sense of guilt, they switch sides, become "race traitors," and fight against their old comrades. But then they go beyond assimilation and become leaders of the people they once oppressed. This is the essence of the white guilt fantasy, laid bare. It's not just a wish to be absolved of the crimes whites have committed against people of color; it's not just a wish to join the side of moral justice in battle. It's a wish to lead people of color from the inside rather than from the (oppressive, white) outside.''
-->-- '''Annalee Newitz''', [[http://io9.com/5422666/when-will-white-people-stop-making-movies-like-avatar "When Will White People Stop Making Movies Like 'Avatar'?"]]
-->-- '''Aldous Snow''', ''Film/GetHimToTheGreek''
->''These are movies about white guilt. Our main white characters realize that they are complicit in a system which is destroying aliens, AKA people of color - their cultures, their habitats, and their populations. The whites realize this when they begin to assimilate into the "alien" cultures and see things from a new perspective. To purge their overwhelming sense of guilt, they switch sides, become "race traitors," and fight against their old comrades. But then they go beyond assimilation and become leaders of the people they once oppressed. This is the essence of the white guilt fantasy, laid bare. It's not just a wish to be absolved of the crimes whites have committed against people of color; it's not just a wish to join the side of moral justice in battle. It's a wish to lead people of color from the inside rather than from the (oppressive, white) outside.''
-->-- '''Annalee Newitz''', [[http://io9.com/5422666/when-will-white-people-stop-making-movies-like-avatar "When Will White People Stop Making Movies Like 'Avatar'?"]]
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-->-- '''Aldous Snow''', ''Film/GetHimToTheGreek''
->''These are movies about white guilt. Our main white characters realize that they are complicit in a system which is destroying aliens, AKA people of color - their cultures, their habitats, and their populations. The whites realize this when they begin to assimilate into the "alien" cultures and see things from a new perspective. To purge their overwhelming sense of guilt, they switch sides, become "race traitors," and fight against their old comrades. But then they go beyond assimilation and become leaders of the people they once oppressed. This is the essence of the white guilt fantasy, laid bare. It's not just a wish
-->-- '''Annalee Newitz''', [[http://io9.com/5422666/when-will-white-people-stop-making-movies-like-avatar "When Will White People Stop Making Movies Like 'Avatar'?"]]
-->--'''[[WebVideo/TheSpoonyExperiment Miles Antwiler]]''' [[http://moviemoses.wordpress.com/2010/01/27/the-cotton-club-1984-francis-ford-coppola/ on]] ''The Cotton Club'' (1984)
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-->-- '''Annalee Newitz''', [[http://io9.com/5422666/when-will-white-people-stop-making-movies-like-avatar "When Will White People Stop Making Movies Like 'Avatar'?"]]
-->-- '''Annalee Newitz''', [[http://io9.com/5422666/when-will-white-people-stop-making-movies-like-avatar "When Will White People Stop Making Movies Like 'Avatar'?"]]
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->'''Jake''': I'm one of you. And I have the right to speak!\\
'''Mike''': Especially since I'm already better at being one of you than all of you are!
-->-- ''Podcast/RiffTrax'' of ''Film/{{Avatar}}''
'''Mike''': Especially since I'm already better at being one of you than all of you are!
-->-- ''Podcast/RiffTrax'' of ''Film/{{Avatar}}''
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-> ''"Discover the Na'Vi, a strong and noble race of blue Indians, fully in tune with nature... who are somehow helpless without THE WHITE MAN... is actually kind of ofenssive when you think about it."''
--> -- [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_851695&feature=iv&src_vid=QDajL441mZc&v=eUTtt14G31c "Honest trailers"]] , Film/{{Avatar}}
--> -- [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_851695&feature=iv&src_vid=QDajL441mZc&v=eUTtt14G31c "Honest trailers"]] , Film/{{Avatar}}
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-> ''"Discover the Na'Vi, a strong and noble race of blue Indians, fully in tune with nature... who are somehow helpless without THE WHITE MAN... is MAN. Hrm, actually kind of ofenssive offensive when you think about it."''
--> --[[http://www.''[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_851695&feature=iv&src_vid=QDajL441mZc&v=eUTtt14G31c "Honest trailers"]] Honest Trailers]]'' , Film/{{Avatar}}
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--> -- [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_851695&feature=iv&src_vid=QDajL441mZc&v=eUTtt14G31c "Honest trailers"]] , {{Avatar}}
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->"Here's ''[[StarTrekVoyager ''[[Series/StarTrekVoyager Star Trek]]'''s message: We have a great respect for the cultures of Native Americans, and we show this by saying that they were backwards, languageless cavemen until they were touched by [[AncientAstronauts white men from outer space]]. You're welcome!"
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-> ''One of the ancient ploys of the film industry is to make a film about non-white people and find a way, however convoluted, to tell it from the point of view of a white character.''
-->-- '''Creator/RogerEbert''', on ZhangYimou's ''Flowers of War''
->"When they put together this costume I said. 'Imagine an African, white Christ from space.' And this is what they came back with: An African white space Christ. Well, that's just the concept, you know, obviously and I'm not saying I'm African white space Christ, that's not for me to say. That's for ''[[NoExceptYes other people]]'' to say. It's for other people to say if [[AGodAmI they think I'm like Jesus]]."
-->-- '''Aldous Snow''', ''Film/GetHimToTheGreek''
-->-- '''Aldous Snow''', ''Film/GetHimToTheGreek''
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-->-- ''GetHimToTheGreek''
-> ''One of the ancient ploys of the film industry is to make a film about non-white people and find a way, however convoluted, to tell it from the point of view of a white character.''
-->-- '''RogerEbert''', reviewing ZhangYimou's ''Flowers of War''
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->These are movies about white guilt. Our main white characters realize that they are complicit in a system which is destroying aliens, AKA people of color - their cultures, their habitats, and their populations. The whites realize this when they begin to assimilate into the "alien" cultures and see things from a new perspective. To purge their overwhelming sense of guilt, they switch sides, become "race traitors," and fight against their old comrades. But then they go beyond assimilation and become leaders of the people they once oppressed. This is the essence of the white guilt fantasy, laid bare. It's not just a wish to be absolved of the crimes whites have committed against people of color; it's not just a wish to join the side of moral justice in battle. It's a wish to lead people of color from the inside rather than from the (oppressive, white) outside.
-->--Annalee Newitz, [[http://io9.com/5422666/when-will-white-people-stop-making-movies-like-avatar "When Will White People Stop Making Movies Like 'Avatar'?"]]
-->--Annalee Newitz, [[http://io9.com/5422666/when-will-white-people-stop-making-movies-like-avatar "When Will White People Stop Making Movies Like 'Avatar'?"]]
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-->-- '''Annalee Newitz''', [[http://io9.com/5422666/when-will-white-people-stop-making-movies-like-avatar "When Will White People Stop Making Movies Like