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->''"Kudos for including such a well-developed gay character! Have you figured out how you're going to kill them yet?"''
-->--'''Blog/WorstMuse'''
->''Gettin' your kicks in another girl's bed''\\
''And it was only last Tuesday...''\\
''They found you in the subway, dead!''
-->-- '''Music/EltonJohn''', "All the Girls Love Alice"
-->--'''Blog/WorstMuse'''
->''Gettin' your kicks in another girl's bed''\\
''And it was only last Tuesday...''\\
''They found you in the subway, dead!''
-->-- '''Music/EltonJohn''', "All the Girls Love Alice"
to:
->'''Katy''': The third element''(of lesbian romance fiction)''... is tragedy.\\
'''Saya''': Tragedy?\\
'''Katy''': Of course, dear heart. The laws and culture of the mid-20th century allowed sapphic beauty to
-->--'''Blog/WorstMuse'''
->''Gettin'
'''Saya''': Wait. All of your
''And it was only last Tuesday...''\\
''They found you in
'''Katy''': That's why it's all so romantic! Look on TV! Half the
-->--
[[AC:{{Literature}}]]
Changed line(s) 12,33 (click to see context) from:
->''"One of my gay friends has this kind of sad hobby in which she watches every lesbian movie she can find, trying to find ones that actually end up with the women not either dying or breaking up. I think the most positive one she’s found is ''[[Film/{{DEBS}} D.E.B.S.]]''"''
-->--'''''Creator/BioWare'' writer Patrick Weekes'''
->''"'''XV.''' And be it enacted, That every Person convicted of the [[ValuesDissonance abominable]] Crime of Buggery, committed either with Mankind or [[BestialityIsDepraved with any Animal]], [[TruthInTelevision shall suffer Death as a Felon]]."''
-->--'''[[http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Offences_against_the_Person_Act_1828 Offences against the Person Act 1828]]'''
->''"'''Sec. 3.''' The infamous crime against nature, either with man [[BestialityIsDepraved or beast]], shall subject the offender, on conviction thereof, to [[TruthInTelevision death]]"''
-->--'''[[http://books.google.fr/books?id=mtJHAQAAIAAJ&pg=PA245&lpg=PA245&dq=sec+%22The+infamous+crime+against+nature,+either+with+man+or+beast,+shall+subject+the+offender,+on+conviction+thereof,+to+death.%22&source=bl&ots=Wu3hsnlyrk&sig=rWEuXi9uOIAYuhnkfwxEySvE5IY&hl=fr&sa=X&ei=mwqAUvvBJoLX0QXHq4HQDA&ved=0CC8Q6AEwAA The revised statutes of the state of Arkansas]]'''
->''Every lesbian that died in a tv show is now happy in love with their girlfriend in San Junipero''
-->-- A '''Website/{{Tumblr}}''' user [[https://lnception.tumblr.com/post/162663202129/every-lesbian-that-died-in-a-tv-show-is-now-happy that found a silver lining to the trope]]: [[Series/BlackMirrorSanJunipero lesbian heaven]]
->''"[''Film/BehindTheCandelabra''] is a film that reminds viewers that any deviancy from heterosexuality will ultimately result in death by [[GayngstInducedSuicide suicide]], [[HomophobicHateCrime murder]] or [[TragicAIDSStory AIDS]]."''
-->-- '''The Guardian''', ''[[https://www.theguardian.com/film/filmblog/2013/jun/11/gay-characters-hollywood-films Why are gay characters at the top of Hollywood's kill list?]] (2013)''
->''"Creator/ColinFirth simply drops dead for no reason. Presumably overwhelmed by sheer homosexuality, his heart can no longer keep beating. Beware, non-heterosexuals: Sudden Gay Death Syndrome can strike anywhere."''
-->-- '''[[https://www.theguardian.com/film/filmblog/2013/jun/11/gay-characters-hollywood-films The Guardian]]''', discussing the movie ''Literature/ASingleMan''
->''Why is there never any gay couples''
->''In these shitty gay romance movies''
->''Who don't die of AIDS or get murdered''
->''By homophobic hoodlums?''
-->--'''''Creator/BioWare'' writer Patrick Weekes'''
->''"'''XV.''' And be it enacted, That every Person convicted of the [[ValuesDissonance abominable]] Crime of Buggery, committed either with Mankind or [[BestialityIsDepraved with any Animal]], [[TruthInTelevision shall suffer Death as a Felon]]."''
-->--'''[[http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Offences_against_the_Person_Act_1828 Offences against the Person Act 1828]]'''
->''"'''Sec. 3.''' The infamous crime against nature, either with man [[BestialityIsDepraved or beast]], shall subject the offender, on conviction thereof, to [[TruthInTelevision death]]"''
-->--'''[[http://books.google.fr/books?id=mtJHAQAAIAAJ&pg=PA245&lpg=PA245&dq=sec+%22The+infamous+crime+against+nature,+either+with+man+or+beast,+shall+subject+the+offender,+on+conviction+thereof,+to+death.%22&source=bl&ots=Wu3hsnlyrk&sig=rWEuXi9uOIAYuhnkfwxEySvE5IY&hl=fr&sa=X&ei=mwqAUvvBJoLX0QXHq4HQDA&ved=0CC8Q6AEwAA The revised statutes of the state of Arkansas]]'''
->''Every lesbian that died in a tv show is now happy in love with their girlfriend in San Junipero''
-->-- A '''Website/{{Tumblr}}''' user [[https://lnception.tumblr.com/post/162663202129/every-lesbian-that-died-in-a-tv-show-is-now-happy that found a silver lining to the trope]]: [[Series/BlackMirrorSanJunipero lesbian heaven]]
->''"[''Film/BehindTheCandelabra''] is a film that reminds viewers that any deviancy from heterosexuality will ultimately result in death by [[GayngstInducedSuicide suicide]], [[HomophobicHateCrime murder]] or [[TragicAIDSStory AIDS]]."''
-->-- '''The Guardian''', ''[[https://www.theguardian.com/film/filmblog/2013/jun/11/gay-characters-hollywood-films Why are gay characters at the top of Hollywood's kill list?]] (2013)''
->''"Creator/ColinFirth simply drops dead for no reason. Presumably overwhelmed by sheer homosexuality, his heart can no longer keep beating. Beware, non-heterosexuals: Sudden Gay Death Syndrome can strike anywhere."''
-->-- '''[[https://www.theguardian.com/film/filmblog/2013/jun/11/gay-characters-hollywood-films The Guardian]]''', discussing the movie ''Literature/ASingleMan''
->''Why is there never any gay couples''
->''In these shitty gay romance movies''
->''Who don't die of AIDS or get murdered''
->''By homophobic hoodlums?''
to:
-->--'''''Creator/BioWare'' writer Patrick Weekes'''
->''"'''XV.''' And be it enacted, That every Person convicted of the [[ValuesDissonance abominable]] Crime of Buggery, committed either with Mankind or [[BestialityIsDepraved with any Animal]], [[TruthInTelevision shall suffer Death as a Felon]]."''
-->--'''[[http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Offences_against_the_Person_Act_1828 Offences against the Person Act 1828]]'''
->''"'''Sec. 3.''' The infamous crime against nature, either with man [[BestialityIsDepraved or beast]], shall subject the offender, on conviction thereof, to [[TruthInTelevision death]]"''
-->--'''[[http://books.google.fr/books?id=mtJHAQAAIAAJ&pg=PA245&lpg=PA245&dq=sec+%22The+infamous+crime+against+nature,+either+with+man+or+beast,+shall+subject+the+offender,+on+conviction+thereof,+to+death.%22&source=bl&ots=Wu3hsnlyrk&sig=rWEuXi9uOIAYuhnkfwxEySvE5IY&hl=fr&sa=X&ei=mwqAUvvBJoLX0QXHq4HQDA&ved=0CC8Q6AEwAA The revised statutes of the state of Arkansas]]'''
->''Every lesbian that died in a tv show is now happy in love with their girlfriend in San Junipero''
-->-- A '''Website/{{Tumblr}}''' user [[https://lnception.tumblr.com/post/162663202129/every-lesbian-that-died-in-a-tv-show-is-now-happy that found a silver lining to the trope]]: [[Series/BlackMirrorSanJunipero lesbian heaven]]
->''"[''Film/BehindTheCandelabra''] is a film that reminds viewers that any deviancy from heterosexuality will ultimately result in death by [[GayngstInducedSuicide suicide]], [[HomophobicHateCrime murder]] or [[TragicAIDSStory AIDS]]."''
-->-- '''The Guardian''', ''[[https://www.theguardian.com/film/filmblog/2013/jun/11/gay-characters-hollywood-films Why are gay characters at the top of Hollywood's kill list?]] (2013)''
->''"Creator/ColinFirth simply drops dead for no reason. Presumably overwhelmed by sheer homosexuality, his heart can no longer keep beating. Beware, non-heterosexuals: Sudden Gay Death Syndrome can strike anywhere."''
-->-- '''[[https://www.theguardian.com/film/filmblog/2013/jun/11/gay-characters-hollywood-films The Guardian]]''', discussing the movie ''Literature/ASingleMan''
->''In
''In these shitty gay romance
->''Who
''Who don't die of AIDS or get
->''By
''By homophobic hoodlums?''
Changed line(s) 36,50 (click to see context) from:
->''"(a lot of the lesbian and bisexual characters in film and TV these days wind up dead)"''
-->-- A '''[[https://www.buzzfeed.com/shannonkeating/queer-female-characters-keep-dying-in-superhero-movies?utm_term=.wi8yOV1PQ#.tg8Z43rj0 Buzzfeed News]]''' article that mentions the trope as a parenthetical because it's not really news anymore
->''"[This] trope is alive and well on TV, and fictional lesbian and bisexual women in particular have a very small chance of leading long and productive lives."''
-->-- '''[[https://variety.com/2016/tv/opinion/the-100-lexa-jason-rothenberg-1201729110/ Variety]]'''
->''"What would happen if every straight, white, male character got inexplicably and deplorably killed off in every show you watched just to further the plot? To a point where you see a straight character and immediately think: "yep, he's gonna die when he walks into a room without a bulletproof vest". What does it mean, when a writer or showrunner cannot work within constraints for that LGBT character and the only option, in their minds, is to kill them off? What does it mean, when LGBT fans seek solace in the world of fanfiction or [[FixFic "fix-it-fic"]] because the actual, professional show writers failed them? What does it mean, when you kill off a LGBT character because you had to use them as a plot device and couldn't find anyway else to explain the plot? What message do you send out, when you write these cheap deaths? That LGBT fans do not deserve to love who they love? That they should fear every door they open? That they should be punished for simply being who they are?"''
-->-- '''Nicola Choi''', ''[[http://talknerdywithus.com/2016/03/11/lgbt-fans-deserve-better/ LGBT Fans Deserve Better]]''
->''"[...]at least 20% of queer characters on TV die. [...] if 20% of straight characters died it would not have such a negative effect on the relevant community - and not just because there's something like 15x more straight characters on TV. They are not a minority. Not every straight character dying will matter to every straight person because the fact they are straight does not matter - there are many that will because different people will associate with different characters who share traits with them. But every queer character death matters to every member of the queer community - sometimes because their sexuality or gender identity is a large part of their characterization, but always because this is a representative minority being removed from society in the most final (and often tragic) way. It is already hard to feel normal in the world with a queer identity, even if transient to your person and yes still today, so taking out representation that queer people can identify with is sacking the minority, devaluing visibility and reducing positivity for the queer minority, and matters more than (straight) character deaths. [...] It would absolutely be sad and shitty if it became a noticeable trend that straight characters were dying, but it may take more to get there because they are not these rare precious lights that queer characters are, because often their sexuality is an easily overlooked aspect of their character (i.e. is rather unimportant to the demographic they are representing), and because their deaths (especially of straight white men) are usually not cheap. It is the randomness, the cheapness, the lack of meaning and value to many queer character deaths that makes them more uncomfortable and thus recognizable than an important death either as conclusion to/part of a good plotline or as initiating its own story (that isn't the dead character's partner being miserable). [...] the effect on straight communities - even if the straight characters got the same treatment - in this world where straight people are the prioritized majority would not be as negative as the effect that Bury Your Gays has on queer communities because it is a reinforcement of real world feelings of being invaluable that straight people likely cannot understand (in terms of sexual identity, [because] racial minorities experience a similar thing, look to the reactions of surprised joy at ''Film/BlackPanther2018'', for example). [...] One every now and again? Shit happens. One on every other show, every other season? The queer viewers will start to feel attacked."''
-->-- '''Queer in the Media''', [[https://comfortwithreclaimedslursrising.tumblr.com/post/171921251219/comfortwithreclaimedslursrising-bury-your-gays "Bury Your Gays and the negative minority"]]
->''"Naturally, people die on television [...] But the trend of queer female deaths is unusual in its cruelty and frequency."''
-->--'''[[http://harvardpolitics.com/culture/the-disposable-lesbian-its-time-for-television-to-let-us-live/ The Harvard Political Review]]'''
-->-- A '''[[https://www.buzzfeed.com/shannonkeating/queer-female-characters-keep-dying-in-superhero-movies?utm_term=.wi8yOV1PQ#.tg8Z43rj0 Buzzfeed News]]''' article that mentions the trope as a parenthetical because it's not really news anymore
->''"[This] trope is alive and well on TV, and fictional lesbian and bisexual women in particular have a very small chance of leading long and productive lives."''
-->-- '''[[https://variety.com/2016/tv/opinion/the-100-lexa-jason-rothenberg-1201729110/ Variety]]'''
->''"What would happen if every straight, white, male character got inexplicably and deplorably killed off in every show you watched just to further the plot? To a point where you see a straight character and immediately think: "yep, he's gonna die when he walks into a room without a bulletproof vest". What does it mean, when a writer or showrunner cannot work within constraints for that LGBT character and the only option, in their minds, is to kill them off? What does it mean, when LGBT fans seek solace in the world of fanfiction or [[FixFic "fix-it-fic"]] because the actual, professional show writers failed them? What does it mean, when you kill off a LGBT character because you had to use them as a plot device and couldn't find anyway else to explain the plot? What message do you send out, when you write these cheap deaths? That LGBT fans do not deserve to love who they love? That they should fear every door they open? That they should be punished for simply being who they are?"''
-->-- '''Nicola Choi''', ''[[http://talknerdywithus.com/2016/03/11/lgbt-fans-deserve-better/ LGBT Fans Deserve Better]]''
->''"[...]at least 20% of queer characters on TV die. [...] if 20% of straight characters died it would not have such a negative effect on the relevant community - and not just because there's something like 15x more straight characters on TV. They are not a minority. Not every straight character dying will matter to every straight person because the fact they are straight does not matter - there are many that will because different people will associate with different characters who share traits with them. But every queer character death matters to every member of the queer community - sometimes because their sexuality or gender identity is a large part of their characterization, but always because this is a representative minority being removed from society in the most final (and often tragic) way. It is already hard to feel normal in the world with a queer identity, even if transient to your person and yes still today, so taking out representation that queer people can identify with is sacking the minority, devaluing visibility and reducing positivity for the queer minority, and matters more than (straight) character deaths. [...] It would absolutely be sad and shitty if it became a noticeable trend that straight characters were dying, but it may take more to get there because they are not these rare precious lights that queer characters are, because often their sexuality is an easily overlooked aspect of their character (i.e. is rather unimportant to the demographic they are representing), and because their deaths (especially of straight white men) are usually not cheap. It is the randomness, the cheapness, the lack of meaning and value to many queer character deaths that makes them more uncomfortable and thus recognizable than an important death either as conclusion to/part of a good plotline or as initiating its own story (that isn't the dead character's partner being miserable). [...] the effect on straight communities - even if the straight characters got the same treatment - in this world where straight people are the prioritized majority would not be as negative as the effect that Bury Your Gays has on queer communities because it is a reinforcement of real world feelings of being invaluable that straight people likely cannot understand (in terms of sexual identity, [because] racial minorities experience a similar thing, look to the reactions of surprised joy at ''Film/BlackPanther2018'', for example). [...] One every now and again? Shit happens. One on every other show, every other season? The queer viewers will start to feel attacked."''
-->-- '''Queer in the Media''', [[https://comfortwithreclaimedslursrising.tumblr.com/post/171921251219/comfortwithreclaimedslursrising-bury-your-gays "Bury Your Gays and the negative minority"]]
->''"Naturally, people die on television [...] But the trend of queer female deaths is unusual in its cruelty and frequency."''
-->--'''[[http://harvardpolitics.com/culture/the-disposable-lesbian-its-time-for-television-to-let-us-live/ The Harvard Political Review]]'''
to:
-->-- A '''[[https://www.buzzfeed.com/shannonkeating/queer-female-characters-keep-dying-in-superhero-movies?utm_term=.wi8yOV1PQ#.tg8Z43rj0 Buzzfeed News]]''' article that mentions the trope as a parenthetical because it's not really news anymore
->''"[This] trope is alive and well on TV, and fictional lesbian and bisexual women in particular have a very small chance of leading long and productive lives."''
-->-- '''[[https://variety.com/2016/tv/opinion/the-100-lexa-jason-rothenberg-1201729110/ Variety]]'''
->''"What would happen if every straight, white, male character got inexplicably and deplorably killed off in every show you watched just to further the plot? To a point where you see a straight character and immediately think: "yep, he's gonna die when he walks into a room without a bulletproof vest". What does it mean, when a writer or showrunner cannot work within constraints for that LGBT character and the only option, in their minds, is to kill them off? What does it mean, when LGBT fans seek solace in the world of fanfiction or [[FixFic "fix-it-fic"]] because the actual, professional show writers failed them? What does it mean, when you kill off a LGBT character because you had to use them as a plot device and couldn't find anyway else to explain the plot? What message do you send out, when you write these cheap deaths? That LGBT fans do not deserve to love who they love? That they should fear every door they open? That they should be punished for simply being who they are?"''
-->-- '''Nicola Choi''', ''[[http://talknerdywithus.com/2016/03/11/lgbt-fans-deserve-better/ LGBT Fans Deserve Better]]''
->''"[...]at least 20% of queer characters on TV die. [...] if 20% of straight characters died it would not have such a negative effect on the relevant community - and not just because there's something like 15x more straight characters on TV. They are not a minority. Not every straight character dying will matter to every straight person because the fact they are straight does not matter - there are many that will because different people will associate with different characters who share traits with them. But every queer character death matters to every member of the queer community - sometimes because their sexuality or gender identity is a large part of their characterization, but always because this is a representative minority being removed from society in the most final (and often tragic) way. It is already hard to feel normal in the world with a queer identity, even if transient to your person and yes still today, so taking out representation that queer people can identify with is sacking the minority, devaluing visibility and reducing positivity for the queer minority, and matters more than (straight) character deaths. [...] It would absolutely be sad and shitty if it became a noticeable trend that straight characters were dying, but it may take more to get there because they are not these rare precious lights that queer characters are, because often their sexuality is an easily overlooked aspect of their character (i.e. is rather unimportant to the demographic they are representing), and because their deaths (especially of straight white men) are usually not cheap. It is the randomness, the cheapness, the lack of meaning and value to many queer character deaths that makes them more uncomfortable and thus recognizable than an important death either as conclusion to/part of a good plotline or as initiating its own story (that isn't the dead character's partner being miserable). [...] the effect on straight communities - even if the straight characters got the same treatment - in this world where straight people are the prioritized majority would not be as negative as the effect that Bury Your Gays has on queer communities because it is a reinforcement of real world feelings of being invaluable that straight people likely cannot understand (in terms of sexual identity, [because] racial minorities experience a similar thing, look to the reactions of surprised joy at ''Film/BlackPanther2018'', for example). [...] One every now and again? Shit happens. One on every other show, every other season? The queer viewers will start to feel attacked."''
-->-- '''Queer in the Media''', [[https://comfortwithreclaimedslursrising.tumblr.com/post/171921251219/comfortwithreclaimedslursrising-bury-your-gays "Bury Your Gays and the negative minority"]]
->''"Naturally, people die on television [...] But the trend of queer female deaths is unusual in its cruelty and frequency."''
-->--'''[[http://harvardpolitics.com/culture/the-disposable-lesbian-its-time-for-television-to-let-us-live/ The Harvard Political Review]]'''
[[AC:Music]]
->''Gettin' your kicks in another girl's bed''\\
''And it was only last Tuesday...''\\
''They found you in the subway, dead!''
-->-- '''Music/EltonJohn''', "All the Girls Love Alice"
[[AC:Press]]
->''"[''Film/BehindTheCandelabra''] is a film that reminds viewers that any deviancy from heterosexuality will ultimately result in death by [[GayngstInducedSuicide suicide]], [[HomophobicHateCrime murder]] or [[TragicAIDSStory AIDS]]."''
-->-- '''The Guardian''', ''[[https://www.theguardian.com/film/filmblog/2013/jun/11/gay-characters-hollywood-films Why are gay characters at the top of Hollywood's kill list?]] (2013)''
->''"Creator/ColinFirth simply drops dead for no reason. Presumably overwhelmed by sheer homosexuality, his heart can no longer keep beating. Beware, non-heterosexuals: Sudden Gay Death Syndrome can strike anywhere."''
-->-- '''[[https://www.theguardian.com/film/filmblog/2013/jun/11/gay-characters-hollywood-films The Guardian]]''', discussing the movie ''Literature/ASingleMan''
->''"(a lot of the lesbian and bisexual characters in film and TV these days wind up dead)"''
-->-- A '''[[https://www.buzzfeed.com/shannonkeating/queer-female-characters-keep-dying-in-superhero-movies?utm_term=.wi8yOV1PQ#.tg8Z43rj0 Buzzfeed News]]''' article that mentions the trope as a parenthetical because it's not really news anymore
->''"[This] trope is alive and well on TV, and fictional lesbian and bisexual women in particular have a very small chance of leading long and productive lives."''
-->-- '''[[https://variety.com/2016/tv/opinion/the-100-lexa-jason-rothenberg-1201729110/ Variety]]'''
->''"What would happen if every straight, white, male character got inexplicably and deplorably killed off in every show you watched just to further the plot? To a point where you see a straight character and immediately think: "yep, he's gonna die when he walks into a room without a bulletproof vest". What does it mean, when a writer or showrunner cannot work within constraints for that LGBT character and the only option, in their minds, is to kill them off? What does it mean, when LGBT fans seek solace in the world of fanfiction or [[FixFic "fix-it-fic"]] because the actual, professional show writers failed them? What does it mean, when you kill off a LGBT character because you had to use them as a plot device and couldn't find anyway else to explain the plot? What message do you send out, when you write these cheap deaths? That LGBT fans do not deserve to love who they love? That they should fear every door they open? That they should be punished for simply being who they are?"''
-->-- '''Nicola Choi''', ''[[http://talknerdywithus.com/2016/03/11/lgbt-fans-deserve-better/ LGBT Fans Deserve Better]]''
->''"Naturally, people die on television [...] But the trend of queer female deaths is unusual in its cruelty and frequency."''
-->--'''[[http://harvardpolitics.com/culture/the-disposable-lesbian-its-time-for-television-to-let-us-live/ The Harvard Political Review]]'''
[[AC:WebOriginal]]
->''"Kudos for including such a well-developed gay character! Have you figured out how you're going to kill them yet?"''
-->--'''Blog/WorstMuse'''
->''Every lesbian that died in a tv show is now happy in love with their girlfriend in San Junipero''
-->-- A '''Website/{{Tumblr}}''' user [[https://lnception.tumblr.com/post/162663202129/every-lesbian-that-died-in-a-tv-show-is-now-happy that found a silver lining to the trope]]: [[Series/BlackMirrorSanJunipero lesbian heaven]]
->''"[...]at least 20% of queer characters on TV die. [...] if 20% of straight characters died it would not have such a negative effect on the relevant community - and not just because there's something like 15x more straight characters on TV. They are not a minority. Not every straight character dying will matter to every straight person because the fact they are straight does not matter - there are many that will because different people will associate with different characters who share traits with them. But every queer character death matters to every member of the queer community - sometimes because their sexuality or gender identity is a large part of their characterization, but always because this is a representative minority being removed from society in the most final (and often tragic) way. It is already hard to feel normal in the world with a queer identity, even if transient to your person and yes still today, so taking out representation that queer people can identify with is sacking the minority, devaluing visibility and reducing positivity for the queer minority, and matters more than (straight) character deaths. [...] It would absolutely be sad and shitty if it became a noticeable trend that straight characters were dying, but it may take more to get there because they are not these rare precious lights that queer characters are, because often their sexuality is an easily overlooked aspect of their character (i.e. is rather unimportant to the demographic they are representing), and because their deaths (especially of straight white men) are usually not cheap. It is the randomness, the cheapness, the lack of meaning and value to many queer character deaths that makes them more uncomfortable and thus recognizable than an important death either as conclusion to/part of a good plotline or as initiating its own story (that isn't the dead character's partner being miserable). [...] the effect on straight communities - even if the straight characters got the same treatment - in this world where straight people are the prioritized majority would not be as negative as the effect that Bury Your Gays has on queer communities because it is a reinforcement of real world feelings of being invaluable that straight people likely cannot understand (in terms of sexual identity, [because] racial minorities experience a similar thing, look to the reactions of surprised joy at ''Film/BlackPanther2018'', for example). [...] One every now and again? Shit happens. One on every other show, every other season? The queer viewers will start to feel attacked."''
-->-- '''Queer in the Media''', [[https://comfortwithreclaimedslursrising.tumblr.com/post/171921251219/comfortwithreclaimedslursrising-bury-your-gays "Bury Your Gays and the negative minority"]]
->''Gettin' your kicks in another girl's bed''\\
''And it was only last Tuesday...''\\
''They found you in the subway, dead!''
-->-- '''Music/EltonJohn''', "All the Girls Love Alice"
[[AC:Press]]
->''"[''Film/BehindTheCandelabra''] is a film that reminds viewers that any deviancy from heterosexuality will ultimately result in death by [[GayngstInducedSuicide suicide]], [[HomophobicHateCrime murder]] or [[TragicAIDSStory AIDS]]."''
-->-- '''The Guardian''', ''[[https://www.theguardian.com/film/filmblog/2013/jun/11/gay-characters-hollywood-films Why are gay characters at the top of Hollywood's kill list?]] (2013)''
->''"Creator/ColinFirth simply drops dead for no reason. Presumably overwhelmed by sheer homosexuality, his heart can no longer keep beating. Beware, non-heterosexuals: Sudden Gay Death Syndrome can strike anywhere."''
-->-- '''[[https://www.theguardian.com/film/filmblog/2013/jun/11/gay-characters-hollywood-films The Guardian]]''', discussing the movie ''Literature/ASingleMan''
->''"(a lot of the lesbian and bisexual characters in film and TV these days wind up dead)"''
-->-- A '''[[https://www.buzzfeed.com/shannonkeating/queer-female-characters-keep-dying-in-superhero-movies?utm_term=.wi8yOV1PQ#.tg8Z43rj0 Buzzfeed News]]''' article that mentions the trope as a parenthetical because it's not really news anymore
->''"[This] trope is alive and well on TV, and fictional lesbian and bisexual women in particular have a very small chance of leading long and productive lives."''
-->-- '''[[https://variety.com/2016/tv/opinion/the-100-lexa-jason-rothenberg-1201729110/ Variety]]'''
->''"What would happen if every straight, white, male character got inexplicably and deplorably killed off in every show you watched just to further the plot? To a point where you see a straight character and immediately think: "yep, he's gonna die when he walks into a room without a bulletproof vest". What does it mean, when a writer or showrunner cannot work within constraints for that LGBT character and the only option, in their minds, is to kill them off? What does it mean, when LGBT fans seek solace in the world of fanfiction or [[FixFic "fix-it-fic"]] because the actual, professional show writers failed them? What does it mean, when you kill off a LGBT character because you had to use them as a plot device and couldn't find anyway else to explain the plot? What message do you send out, when you write these cheap deaths? That LGBT fans do not deserve to love who they love? That they should fear every door they open? That they should be punished for simply being who they are?"''
-->-- '''Nicola Choi''', ''[[http://talknerdywithus.com/2016/03/11/lgbt-fans-deserve-better/ LGBT Fans Deserve Better]]''
->''"Naturally, people die on television [...] But the trend of queer female deaths is unusual in its cruelty and frequency."''
-->--'''[[http://harvardpolitics.com/culture/the-disposable-lesbian-its-time-for-television-to-let-us-live/ The Harvard Political Review]]'''
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->''"Kudos for including such a well-developed gay character! Have you figured out how you're going to kill them yet?"''
-->--'''Blog/WorstMuse'''
->''Every lesbian that died in a tv show is now happy in love with their girlfriend in San Junipero''
-->-- A '''Website/{{Tumblr}}''' user [[https://lnception.tumblr.com/post/162663202129/every-lesbian-that-died-in-a-tv-show-is-now-happy that found a silver lining to the trope]]: [[Series/BlackMirrorSanJunipero lesbian heaven]]
->''"[...]at least 20% of queer characters on TV die. [...] if 20% of straight characters died it would not have such a negative effect on the relevant community - and not just because there's something like 15x more straight characters on TV. They are not a minority. Not every straight character dying will matter to every straight person because the fact they are straight does not matter - there are many that will because different people will associate with different characters who share traits with them. But every queer character death matters to every member of the queer community - sometimes because their sexuality or gender identity is a large part of their characterization, but always because this is a representative minority being removed from society in the most final (and often tragic) way. It is already hard to feel normal in the world with a queer identity, even if transient to your person and yes still today, so taking out representation that queer people can identify with is sacking the minority, devaluing visibility and reducing positivity for the queer minority, and matters more than (straight) character deaths. [...] It would absolutely be sad and shitty if it became a noticeable trend that straight characters were dying, but it may take more to get there because they are not these rare precious lights that queer characters are, because often their sexuality is an easily overlooked aspect of their character (i.e. is rather unimportant to the demographic they are representing), and because their deaths (especially of straight white men) are usually not cheap. It is the randomness, the cheapness, the lack of meaning and value to many queer character deaths that makes them more uncomfortable and thus recognizable than an important death either as conclusion to/part of a good plotline or as initiating its own story (that isn't the dead character's partner being miserable). [...] the effect on straight communities - even if the straight characters got the same treatment - in this world where straight people are the prioritized majority would not be as negative as the effect that Bury Your Gays has on queer communities because it is a reinforcement of real world feelings of being invaluable that straight people likely cannot understand (in terms of sexual identity, [because] racial minorities experience a similar thing, look to the reactions of surprised joy at ''Film/BlackPanther2018'', for example). [...] One every now and again? Shit happens. One on every other show, every other season? The queer viewers will start to feel attacked."''
-->-- '''Queer in the Media''', [[https://comfortwithreclaimedslursrising.tumblr.com/post/171921251219/comfortwithreclaimedslursrising-bury-your-gays "Bury Your Gays and the negative minority"]]
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->''"One of my gay friends has this kind of sad hobby in which she watches every lesbian movie she can find, trying to find ones that actually end up with the women not either dying or breaking up. I think the most positive one she’s found is ''[[Film/{{DEBS}} D.E.B.S.]]''"''
-->--'''''Creator/BioWare'' writer Patrick Weekes'''
->''"'''XV.''' And be it enacted, That every Person convicted of the [[ValuesDissonance abominable]] Crime of Buggery, committed either with Mankind or [[BestialityIsDepraved with any Animal]], [[TruthInTelevision shall suffer Death as a Felon]]."''
-->--'''[[http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Offences_against_the_Person_Act_1828 Offences against the Person Act 1828]]'''
->''"'''Sec. 3.''' The infamous crime against nature, either with man [[BestialityIsDepraved or beast]], shall subject the offender, on conviction thereof, to [[TruthInTelevision death]]"''
-->--'''[[http://books.google.fr/books?id=mtJHAQAAIAAJ&pg=PA245&lpg=PA245&dq=sec+%22The+infamous+crime+against+nature,+either+with+man+or+beast,+shall+subject+the+offender,+on+conviction+thereof,+to+death.%22&source=bl&ots=Wu3hsnlyrk&sig=rWEuXi9uOIAYuhnkfwxEySvE5IY&hl=fr&sa=X&ei=mwqAUvvBJoLX0QXHq4HQDA&ved=0CC8Q6AEwAA The revised statutes of the state of Arkansas]]'''
->''Seeing that it is better that offenders should die rather than that all of us should be killed by God's just wrath against us for the folly of tolerating wickedness in our midst, the People of California wisely command, in the fear of God, that any person who willingly touches another person of the same gender for purposes of sexual gratification be put to death by bullets to the head or by any other convenient method.''
-->--Extract of the '''Sodomite Suppression Act''', a ballot initiative proposed by Matthew [=McLaughlin=] on 2015
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->'''Katy''': The third element''(of lesbian romance fiction)''... is tragedy.\\
'''Saya''': Tragedy?\\
'''Katy''': Of course, dear heart. The laws and culture of the mid-20th century allowed sapphic beauty to be displayed... as long as it didn't end happily. The lesbian romance must be portrayed as dangerous, toxic, desperate. [[DownerEnding It ends with madness or suicide or prison]]. The laws have changed, but that remains a key, key aspect of the genre.\\
'''Saya''': Wait. All of your stories have tragic endings?\\
'''Katy''': That's why it's all so romantic! Look on TV! Half the gay characters die, and the other half are crazy. And the deaths are extra tragic, they're heroic sacrifices or a cruel, pointless murder that happens right as they're most joyful. This is the beauty of lesbian romance!
-->-- ''Fanfic/NewHopeUniversityMajorInMurder''
->''Seeing that it is better that offenders should die rather than that all of us should be killed by God's just wrath against us for the folly of tolerating wickedness in our midst, the People of California wisely command, in the fear of God, that any person who willingly touches another person of the same gender for purposes of sexual gratification be put to death by bullets to the head or by any other convenient method.''
-->--Extract of the '''Sodomite Suppression Act''', a ballot initiativ proposed by Matt [=McLaughlin=] on 2015
'''Saya''': Tragedy?\\
'''Katy''': Of course, dear heart. The laws and culture of the mid-20th century allowed sapphic beauty to be displayed... as long as it didn't end happily. The lesbian romance must be portrayed as dangerous, toxic, desperate. [[DownerEnding It ends with madness or suicide or prison]]. The laws have changed, but that remains a key, key aspect of the genre.\\
'''Saya''': Wait. All of your stories have tragic endings?\\
'''Katy''': That's why it's all so romantic! Look on TV! Half the gay characters die, and the other half are crazy. And the deaths are extra tragic, they're heroic sacrifices or a cruel, pointless murder that happens right as they're most joyful. This is the beauty of lesbian romance!
-->-- ''Fanfic/NewHopeUniversityMajorInMurder''
->''Seeing that it is better that offenders should die rather than that all of us should be killed by God's just wrath against us for the folly of tolerating wickedness in our midst, the People of California wisely command, in the fear of God, that any person who willingly touches another person of the same gender for purposes of sexual gratification be put to death by bullets to the head or by any other convenient method.''
-->--Extract of the '''Sodomite Suppression Act''', a ballot initiativ proposed by Matt [=McLaughlin=] on 2015
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-->--Extract of the '''Sodomite Suppression Act''', a ballot initiativ proposed by Matt [=McLaughlin=] on 2015
-->--Extract of the '''Sodomite Suppression Act''', a ballot initiativ proposed by Matt [=McLaughlin=] on 2015
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->'''Katy''': The third element''(of lesbian romance fiction)''... is tragedy.\\
'''Saya''': Tragedy?\\
'''Katy''': Of course, dear heart. The laws and culture of the mid-20th century allowed sapphic beauty to be displayed... as long as it didn't end happily. The lesbian romance must be portrayed as dangerous, toxic, desperate. [[DownerEnding It ends with madness or suicide or prison]]. The laws have changed, but that remains a key, key aspect of the genre.\\
'''Saya''': Wait. All of your stories have tragic endings?\\
'''Katy''': That's why it's all so romantic! Look on TV! Half the gay characters die, and the other half are crazy. And the deaths are extra tragic, they're heroic sacrifices or a cruel, pointless murder that happens right as they're most joyful. This is the beauty of lesbian romance!
-->-- ''Fanfic/NewHopeUniversityMajorInMurder''
'''Saya''': Tragedy?\\
'''Katy''': Of course, dear heart. The laws and culture of the mid-20th century allowed sapphic beauty to be displayed... as long as it didn't end happily. The lesbian romance must be portrayed as dangerous, toxic, desperate. [[DownerEnding It ends with madness or suicide or prison]]. The laws have changed, but that remains a key, key aspect of the genre.\\
'''Saya''': Wait. All of your stories have tragic endings?\\
'''Katy''': That's why it's all so romantic! Look on TV! Half the gay characters die, and the other half are crazy. And the deaths are extra tragic, they're heroic sacrifices or a cruel, pointless murder that happens right as they're most joyful. This is the beauty of lesbian romance!
-->-- ''Fanfic/NewHopeUniversityMajorInMurder''
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->''"Creator/ColinFirth simply drops dead for no reason. Presumably overwhelmed by sheer homosexuality, his heart can no longer keep beating. Beware, non-heterosexuals: Sudden Gay Death Syndrome can strike anywhere."''
-->-- '''[[https://www.theguardian.com/film/filmblog/2013/jun/11/gay-characters-hollywood-films The Guardian]]''', discussing the movie ''Literature/ASingleMan''
-->-- '''[[https://www.theguardian.com/film/filmblog/2013/jun/11/gay-characters-hollywood-films The Guardian]]''', discussing the movie ''Literature/ASingleMan''
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->''"The sanctity of the institution of marriage and the home shall be upheld. Pictures shall not infer that low forms of sex relationship are the accepted or common thing. […] Sex perversion or any inference to it is forbidden."''
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->''"The sanctity of the institution of marriage and the home shall be upheld. Pictures shall not infer that low forms of sex relationship are the accepted or common thing. […] Sex perversion or any inference to it is forbidden."''
-->-- [[UsefulNotes/TheHaysCode The Motion Picture Production Code, 1930]]
-->-- [[UsefulNotes/TheHaysCode The Motion Picture Production Code, 1930]]
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->''"[...]at least 20% of queer characters on TV die. [...] if 20% of straight characters died it would not have such a negative effect on the relevant community - and not just because there's something like 15x more straight characters on TV. They are not a minority. Not every straight character dying will matter to every straight person because the fact they are straight does not matter - there are many that will because different people will associate with different characters who share traits with them. But every queer character death matters to every member of the queer community - sometimes because their sexuality or gender identity is a large part of their characterization, but always because this is a representative minority being removed from society in the most final (and often tragic) way. It is already hard to feel normal in the world with a queer identity, even if transient to your person and yes still today, so taking out representation that queer people can identify with is sacking the minority, devaluing visibility and reducing positivity for the queer minority, and matters more than (straight) character deaths. [...] It would absolutely be sad and shitty if it became a noticeable trend that straight characters were dying, but it may take more to get there because they are not these rare precious lights that queer characters are, because often their sexuality is an easily overlooked aspect of their character (i.e. is rather unimportant to the demographic they are representing), and because their deaths (especially of straight white men) are usually not cheap. It is the randomness, the cheapness, the lack of meaning and value to many queer character deaths that makes them more uncomfortable and thus recognizable than an important death either as conclusion to/part of a good plotline or as initiating its own story (that isn't the dead character's partner being miserable). [...] the effect on straight communities - even if the straight characters got the same treatment - in this world where straight people are the prioritized majority would not be as negative as the effect that Bury Your Gays has on queer communities because it is a reinforcement of real world feelings of being invaluable that straight people likely cannot understand (in terms of sexual identity, [because] racial minorities experience a similar thing, look to the reactions of surprised joy at ''Film/BlackPanther'', for example). [...] One every now and again? Shit happens. One on every other show, every other season? The queer viewers will start to feel attacked."''
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->''"[...]at least 20% of queer characters on TV die. [...] if 20% of straight characters died it would not have such a negative effect on the relevant community - and not just because there's something like 15x more straight characters on TV. They are not a minority. Not every straight character dying will matter to every straight person because the fact they are straight does not matter - there are many that will because different people will associate with different characters who share traits with them. But every queer character death matters to every member of the queer community - sometimes because their sexuality or gender identity is a large part of their characterization, but always because this is a representative minority being removed from society in the most final (and often tragic) way. It is already hard to feel normal in the world with a queer identity, even if transient to your person and yes still today, so taking out representation that queer people can identify with is sacking the minority, devaluing visibility and reducing positivity for the queer minority, and matters more than (straight) character deaths. [...] It would absolutely be sad and shitty if it became a noticeable trend that straight characters were dying, but it may take more to get there because they are not these rare precious lights that queer characters are, because often their sexuality is an easily overlooked aspect of their character (i.e. is rather unimportant to the demographic they are representing), and because their deaths (especially of straight white men) are usually not cheap. It is the randomness, the cheapness, the lack of meaning and value to many queer character deaths that makes them more uncomfortable and thus recognizable than an important death either as conclusion to/part of a good plotline or as initiating its own story (that isn't the dead character's partner being miserable). [...] the effect on straight communities - even if the straight characters got the same treatment - in this world where straight people are the prioritized majority would not be as negative as the effect that Bury Your Gays has on queer communities because it is a reinforcement of real world feelings of being invaluable that straight people likely cannot understand (in terms of sexual identity, [because] racial minorities experience a similar thing, look to the reactions of surprised joy at ''Film/BlackPanther'', ''Film/BlackPanther2018'', for example). [...] One every now and again? Shit happens. One on every other show, every other season? The queer viewers will start to feel attacked."''
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-->-- [[https://sodiumchloride-kom-saltkru.[[http://sodiumchloride-kom-saltkru.tumblr.com com/post/152779414528/arizona-at-the-end-of-this-year-after-seeing-all A tumblr user]], at least before [[Creator/JessicaCapshaw Arizona's actress]] got fired
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-->-- [[https://sodium chloride-kom-saltkru.[[https://sodiumchloride-kom-saltkru.tumblr.com A tumblr user]], at least before [[Creator/JessicaCapshaw Arizona's actress]] got fired
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-->-- [[https://tumblr.com/sodiumchloride-kom-saltkru [[https://sodium chloride-kom-saltkru.tumblr.com A tumblr user]], at least before [[Creator/JessicaCapshaw Arizona's actress]] got fired
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->''"[...]at least 20% of queer characters on TV die. [...] if 20% of straight characters died it would not have such a negative effect on the relevant community - and not just because there's something like 15x more straight characters on TV. They are not a minority. Not every straight character dying will matter to every straight person because the fact they are straight does not matter - there are many that will because different people will associate with different characters who share traits with them. But every queer character death matters to every member of the queer community - sometimes because their sexuality or gender identity is a large part of their characterization, but always because this is a representative minority being removed from society in the most final (and often tragic) way. It is already hard to feel normal in the world with a queer identity, even if transient to your person and yes still today, so taking out representation that queer people can identify with is sacking the minority, devaluing visibility and reducing positivity for the queer minority, and matters more than (straight) character deaths. [...] It would absolutely be sad and shitty if it became a noticeable trend that straight characters were dying, but it may take more to get there because they are not these rare precious lights that queer characters are, because often their sexuality is an easily overlooked aspect of their character (i.e. is rather unimportant to the demographic they are representing), and because their deaths (especially of straight white men) are usually not cheap. It is the randomness, the cheapness, the lack of meaning and value to many queer character deaths that makes them more uncomfortable and thus recognizable than an important death either as conclusion to/part of a good plotline or as initiating its own story (that isn't the dead character's partner being miserable). [...] the effect on straight communities - even if the straight characters got the same treatment - in this world where straight people are the prioritized majority would not be as negative as the effect that Bury Your Gays has on queer communities because it is a reinforcement of real world feelings of being invaluable that straight people likely cannot understand (in terms of sexual identity, [because] racial minorities experience a similar thing, look to the reactions of surprised joy at ''Film/BlackPanther'', for example)."''
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->''"[...]at least 20% of queer characters on TV die. [...] if 20% of straight characters died it would not have such a negative effect on the relevant community - and not just because there's something like 15x more straight characters on TV. They are not a minority. Not every straight character dying will matter to every straight person because the fact they are straight does not matter - there are many that will because different people will associate with different characters who share traits with them. But every queer character death matters to every member of the queer community - sometimes because their sexuality or gender identity is a large part of their characterization, but always because this is a representative minority being removed from society in the most final (and often tragic) way. It is already hard to feel normal in the world with a queer identity, even if transient to your person and yes still today, so taking out representation that queer people can identify with is sacking the minority, devaluing visibility and reducing positivity for the queer minority, and matters more than (straight) character deaths. [...] It would absolutely be sad and shitty if it became a noticeable trend that straight characters were dying, but it may take more to get there because they are not these rare precious lights that queer characters are, because often their sexuality is an easily overlooked aspect of their character (i.e. is rather unimportant to the demographic they are representing), and because their deaths (especially of straight white men) are usually not cheap. It is the randomness, the cheapness, the lack of meaning and value to many queer character deaths that makes them more uncomfortable and thus recognizable than an important death either as conclusion to/part of a good plotline or as initiating its own story (that isn't the dead character's partner being miserable). [...] the effect on straight communities - even if the straight characters got the same treatment - in this world where straight people are the prioritized majority would not be as negative as the effect that Bury Your Gays has on queer communities because it is a reinforcement of real world feelings of being invaluable that straight people likely cannot understand (in terms of sexual identity, [because] racial minorities experience a similar thing, look to the reactions of surprised joy at ''Film/BlackPanther'', for example). [...] One every now and again? Shit happens. One on every other show, every other season? The queer viewers will start to feel attacked."''
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-->-- '''Queer in the Media''', "[[https://comfortwithreclaimedslursrising.[[https://comfortwithreclaimedslursrising.tumblr.com/post/171921251219/comfortwithreclaimedslursrising-bury-your-gays Bury "Bury Your Gays and the negative minority]]"
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->''"[...]at least 20% of queer characters on TV die. And for a real queer person, that's hard to take because that is your representation. More than that, though, if 20% of straight characters died it would not have such a negative effect on the relevant community - and not just because there's something like 15x more straight characters on TV. They are not a minority. Not every straight character dying will matter to every straight person because the fact they are straight does not matter - there are many that will because different people will associate with different characters who share traits with them. But every queer character death matters to every member of the queer community - sometimes because their sexuality or gender identity is a large part of their characterization, but always because this is a representative minority being removed from society in the most final (and often tragic) way. It is already hard to feel normal in the world with a queer identity, even if transient to your person and yes still today, so taking out representation that queer people can identify with is sacking the minority, devaluing visibility and reducing positivity for the queer minority, and matters more than (straight) character deaths. [...] It would absolutely be sad and shitty if it became a noticeable trend that straight characters were dying, but it may take more to get there because they are not these rare precious lights that queer characters are, because often their sexuality is an easily overlooked aspect of their character (i.e. is rather unimportant to the demographic they are representing), and because their deaths (especially of straight white men) are usually not cheap. It is the randomness, the cheapness, the lack of meaning and value to many queer character deaths that makes them more uncomfortable and thus recognizable than an important death either as conclusion to/part of a good plotline or as initiating its own story (that isn't the dead character's partner being miserable). [...] the effect on straight communities - even if the straight characters got the same treatment - in this world where straight people are the prioritized majority would not be as negative as the effect that Bury Your Gays has on queer communities because it is a reinforcement of real world feelings of being invaluable that straight people likely cannot understand (in terms of sexual identity, [because] racial minorities experience a similar thing, look to the reactions of surprised joy at ''Film/BlackPanther'', for example)."''
-->-- '''[[https://comfortwithreclaimedslursrising.tumblr.com Queer in the Media]]'''
-->-- '''[[https://comfortwithreclaimedslursrising.tumblr.com Queer in the Media]]'''
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->''"[...]at least 20% of queer characters on TV die. And for a real queer person, that's hard to take because that is your representation. More than that, though, [...] if 20% of straight characters died it would not have such a negative effect on the relevant community - and not just because there's something like 15x more straight characters on TV. They are not a minority. Not every straight character dying will matter to every straight person because the fact they are straight does not matter - there are many that will because different people will associate with different characters who share traits with them. But every queer character death matters to every member of the queer community - sometimes because their sexuality or gender identity is a large part of their characterization, but always because this is a representative minority being removed from society in the most final (and often tragic) way. It is already hard to feel normal in the world with a queer identity, even if transient to your person and yes still today, so taking out representation that queer people can identify with is sacking the minority, devaluing visibility and reducing positivity for the queer minority, and matters more than (straight) character deaths. [...] It would absolutely be sad and shitty if it became a noticeable trend that straight characters were dying, but it may take more to get there because they are not these rare precious lights that queer characters are, because often their sexuality is an easily overlooked aspect of their character (i.e. is rather unimportant to the demographic they are representing), and because their deaths (especially of straight white men) are usually not cheap. It is the randomness, the cheapness, the lack of meaning and value to many queer character deaths that makes them more uncomfortable and thus recognizable than an important death either as conclusion to/part of a good plotline or as initiating its own story (that isn't the dead character's partner being miserable). [...] the effect on straight communities - even if the straight characters got the same treatment - in this world where straight people are the prioritized majority would not be as negative as the effect that Bury Your Gays has on queer communities because it is a reinforcement of real world feelings of being invaluable that straight people likely cannot understand (in terms of sexual identity, [because] racial minorities experience a similar thing, look to the reactions of surprised joy at ''Film/BlackPanther'', for example)."''
-->--'''[[https://comfortwithreclaimedslursrising.'''Queer in the Media''', "[[https://comfortwithreclaimedslursrising.tumblr.com Queer in com/post/171921251219/comfortwithreclaimedslursrising-bury-your-gays Bury Your Gays and the Media]]'''
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-->-- '''[[https://comfortwithreclaimedslursrising.tumblr.com Queer in the Media]]'''
-->-- '''[[https://comfortwithreclaimedslursrising.tumblr.com Queer in the Media]]'''
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-->-- [[https://tumblr.com/sodiumchloride-kom-saltkru A tumblr user]], at least before [[Creator/JessicaCapshaw her Arizona's actress]] got fired
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->''"I was really excited about it. I hadn't really seen much of that representation in television that I personally watch. I know it's out there, but often times it's written in a specific way. 'Let's introduce a gay character and quickly kill them off,' so you have the ride of the complexity of this amazing character, but also [you do] not necessarily deal with them over the course of our entire show. Obviously, that’s probably not going to happen in this case [laughs], because Rosa is a core member of this ensemble. It's not like she's going to come out and then get hit by a car and get killed off. It's really cool to me that our show is exploring something with almost the safety net underneath it, telling the audience, 'Look, we're not doing this so that we can explore a story and simply throw it away when it's convenient for us. We are going to keep this person around because we love this person already.' It's part of the family."''
-->-- '''Creator/StephanieBeatriz''' on her ''Series/BrooklynNineNine'' character [[QueerCharacterQueerActor coming out]]
->''"I was really excited about it. I hadn't really seen much of that representation in television that I personally watch. I know it's out there, but often times it's written in a specific way. 'Let's introduce a gay character and quickly kill them off,' so you have the ride of the complexity of this amazing character, but also [you do] not necessarily deal with them over the course of our entire show. Obviously, that’s probably not going to happen in this case [laughs], because Rosa is a core member of this ensemble. It's not like she's going to come out and then get hit by a car and get killed off. It's really cool to me that our show is exploring something with almost the safety net underneath it, telling the audience, 'Look, we're not doing this so that we can explore a story and simply throw it away when it's convenient for us. We are going to keep this person around because we love this person already.' It's part of the family."''
-->-- '''Creator/StephanieBeatriz''' on her ''Series/BrooklynNineNine'' character [[QueerCharacterQueerActor coming out]]
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->"[[Series/GreysAnatomy Arizona]] at the end of this year after seeing all the dead lesbians"\\
'''[[PreserveYourGays Arizona]]:''' I may be the last of my kind.
'''[[PreserveYourGays Arizona]]:''' I may be the last of my kind.
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->"[[Series/GreysAnatomy Arizona]] at the end of this year after seeing all the dead lesbians"\\
'''[[PreserveYourGays Arizona]]:'''lesbians[:]\\
'''Arizona:''' [[PreserveYourGays I may be the last of mykind.kind]]."
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'''Arizona:''' [[PreserveYourGays I may be the last of my
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->"[[Series/GreysAnatomy Arizona]] at the end of this year after seeing all the dead lesbians"\\
'''[[PreserveYourGays Arizona]]:''' I may be the last of my kind.
-->-- [[https://tumblr.com/sodiumchloride-kom-saltkru A tumblr user]], at least before [[Creator/JessicaCapshaw her actress]] got fired
'''[[PreserveYourGays Arizona]]:''' I may be the last of my kind.
-->-- [[https://tumblr.com/sodiumchloride-kom-saltkru A tumblr user]], at least before [[Creator/JessicaCapshaw her actress]] got fired
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->'''Daniela''': [This role is] a lifelong bachelor, but at least he doesn't [[TragicAIDSStory die from AIDS]]!\\
'''Lito''': So he does die, then.\\
'''Daniela''': Drug overdose.
-->-- ''Series/Sense8'', discussing the exclusively gay roles [[ManlyGay Lito]] is offered post-coming out
'''Lito''': So he does die, then.\\
'''Daniela''': Drug overdose.
-->-- ''Series/Sense8'', discussing the exclusively gay roles [[ManlyGay Lito]] is offered post-coming out
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->''"Naturally, people die on television [...] But the trend of queer female deaths is unusual in its cruelty and frequency."''
-->--'''[[http://harvardpolitics.com/culture/the-disposable-lesbian-its-time-for-television-to-let-us-live/ The Harvard Political Review]]'''
-->--'''[[http://harvardpolitics.com/culture/the-disposable-lesbian-its-time-for-television-to-let-us-live/ The Harvard Political Review]]'''
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->''"[This] trope is alive and well on TV, and fictional lesbian and bisexual women in particular have a very small chance of leading long and productive lives."''
-->-- '''[[https://variety.com/2016/tv/opinion/the-100-lexa-jason-rothenberg-1201729110/ Variety]]'''
->''"What would happen if every straight, white, male character got inexplicably and deplorably killed off in every show you watched just to further the plot? To a point where you see a straight character and immediately think: "yep, he's gonna die when he walks into a room without a bulletproof vest". What does it mean, when a writer or showrunner cannot work within constraints for that LGBT character and the only option, in their minds, is to kill them off? What does it mean, when LGBT fans seek solace in the world of fanfiction or [[FixFic "fix-it-fic"]] because the actual, professional show writers failed them? What does it mean, when you kill off a LGBT character because you had to use them as a plot device and couldn't find anyway else to explain the plot? What message do you send out, when you write these cheap deaths? That LGBT fans do not deserve to love who they love? That they should fear every door they open? That they should be punished for simply being who they are?"''
-->-- '''Nicola Choi''', ''[[http://talknerdywithus.com/2016/03/11/lgbt-fans-deserve-better/ LGBT Fans Deserve Better]]''
-->-- '''[[https://variety.com/2016/tv/opinion/the-100-lexa-jason-rothenberg-1201729110/ Variety]]'''
->''"What would happen if every straight, white, male character got inexplicably and deplorably killed off in every show you watched just to further the plot? To a point where you see a straight character and immediately think: "yep, he's gonna die when he walks into a room without a bulletproof vest". What does it mean, when a writer or showrunner cannot work within constraints for that LGBT character and the only option, in their minds, is to kill them off? What does it mean, when LGBT fans seek solace in the world of fanfiction or [[FixFic "fix-it-fic"]] because the actual, professional show writers failed them? What does it mean, when you kill off a LGBT character because you had to use them as a plot device and couldn't find anyway else to explain the plot? What message do you send out, when you write these cheap deaths? That LGBT fans do not deserve to love who they love? That they should fear every door they open? That they should be punished for simply being who they are?"''
-->-- '''Nicola Choi''', ''[[http://talknerdywithus.com/2016/03/11/lgbt-fans-deserve-better/ LGBT Fans Deserve Better]]''
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->''"(a lot of the lesbian and bisexual characters in film and TV these days wind up dead)"''
-->-- A '''[[https://www.buzzfeed.com/shannonkeating/queer-female-characters-keep-dying-in-superhero-movies?utm_term=.wi8yOV1PQ#.tg8Z43rj0 Buzzfeed News]]''' article that mentions the trope as a parenthetical because it's not really news anymore
-->-- A '''[[https://www.buzzfeed.com/shannonkeating/queer-female-characters-keep-dying-in-superhero-movies?utm_term=.wi8yOV1PQ#.tg8Z43rj0 Buzzfeed News]]''' article that mentions the trope as a parenthetical because it's not really news anymore
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->''"[In ''Literature/ASingleMan''] Colin Firth simply drops dead for no reason. Presumably overwhelmed by sheer homosexuality, his heart can no longer keep beating. Beware, non-heterosexuals: Sudden Gay Death Syndrome can strike anywhere."''
-->-- '''The Guardian''', as above
-->-- '''The Guardian''', as above
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->''Why is there never any gay couples''
->''In these shitty gay romance movies''
->''Who don't die of AIDS or get murdered''
->''By homophobic hoodlums?''
-->-- '''Pretty Teenage Violence: Poetry from and Inspired By My Shitty High School Experiences'''
->''In these shitty gay romance movies''
->''Who don't die of AIDS or get murdered''
->''By homophobic hoodlums?''
-->-- '''Pretty Teenage Violence: Poetry from and Inspired By My Shitty High School Experiences'''
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->'''Luffy''': "I thought you died after [[HeroicSacrifice you sacrificed yourself to save us!]]"\\
'''Bon Clay''': "Nonsense, Queers never die."
-->-- '''Manga/OnePiece'''
'''Bon Clay''': "Nonsense, Queers never die."
-->-- '''Manga/OnePiece'''
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->''"In all the films, the transvestites hang themselves twenty minutes in. No, let’s have all the alternative sexuality people who are existing at the end of the film and all the straight people are dead—we’re in there with the feral dogs."''
-->--'''''Creator/EddieIzzard''' in [[http://www.advocate.com/comedy/2013/03/08/eddie-izzard-atheism-transgender-and-invisible-bloke-upstairs an interview]]''
-->--'''''Creator/EddieIzzard''' in [[http://www.advocate.com/comedy/2013/03/08/eddie-izzard-atheism-transgender-and-invisible-bloke-upstairs an interview]]''
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->''new trope: lesbians that live through literally anything, to the point of hilarity. lesbian brings a knife to a gun fight, wins.''
-->-- A '''Website/{{Twitter}}''' user [[https://twitter.com/punkrockzo/status/715737430893068289 who is entirely sick of this trope]]
->''lets make a new trope: gay characters who are actually seemingly impossible to kill to the point that [[ComicallyInvincibleHero all of their enemies are comically frustrated]]. functionally immortal gay characters. being gay making you immortal. unkillable gay trope.''
-->-- A '''Website/{{Tumblr}}''' user [[http://marsixm.tumblr.com/post/146116912106 who feels the same way]]
-->-- A '''Website/{{Twitter}}''' user [[https://twitter.com/punkrockzo/status/715737430893068289 who is entirely sick of this trope]]
->''lets make a new trope: gay characters who are actually seemingly impossible to kill to the point that [[ComicallyInvincibleHero all of their enemies are comically frustrated]]. functionally immortal gay characters. being gay making you immortal. unkillable gay trope.''
-->-- A '''Website/{{Tumblr}}''' user [[http://marsixm.tumblr.com/post/146116912106 who feels the same way]]
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->''"[In ''Literature/ASingleMan''] Colin Firth simply drops dead for no reason. Presumably overwhelmed by sheer homosexuality, his heart can no longer keep beating. Beware, non-heterosexuals: Sudden Gay Death Syndrome can strike anywhere."''
-->-- '''The Guardian''', as above
-->-- '''The Guardian''', as above
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->''"[''Film/BehindTheCandelabra''] is a film that reminds viewers that any deviancy from heterosexuality will ultimately result in death by [[GayngstInducedSuicide suicide]], [[HomophobicHateCrime murder]] or [[TragicAIDSStory AIDS]]."''
-->-- '''The Guardian''', ''[[https://www.theguardian.com/film/filmblog/2013/jun/11/gay-characters-hollywood-films Why are gay characters at the top of Hollywood's kill list?]] (2013)''
-->-- '''The Guardian''', ''[[https://www.theguardian.com/film/filmblog/2013/jun/11/gay-characters-hollywood-films Why are gay characters at the top of Hollywood's kill list?]] (2013)''
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->'''Daniela''': [This role's a] lifelong bachelor, but at least he doesn't die from AIDS!
->'''Hernando''': So he does die.
->'''Daniela''': (sighs) Drug overdose.
-->-- ''Series/Sense8'', discussing the roles [[ManlyGay Lito]] is offered post-coming out
->''"Gay movies are mostly boy meets boy or boy meets fatal disease"''
-->--'''Joe Ahearne''', [[https://horrorpedia.com/2017/04/27/b-and-b-2017-joe-ahearne-comedy-thriller-film-movie-plot-trailer/ discussing]] ''[[Film/BAndB B&B]]''
->'''Hernando''': So he does die.
->'''Daniela''': (sighs) Drug overdose.
-->-- ''Series/Sense8'', discussing the roles [[ManlyGay Lito]] is offered post-coming out
->''"Gay movies are mostly boy meets boy or boy meets fatal disease"''
-->--'''Joe Ahearne''', [[https://horrorpedia.com/2017/04/27/b-and-b-2017-joe-ahearne-comedy-thriller-film-movie-plot-trailer/ discussing]] ''[[Film/BAndB B&B]]''
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-->-- A '''Website/{{Tumblr}}''' user [[https://lnception.tumblr.com/post/162663202129/every-lesbian-that-died-in-a-tv-show-is-now-happy that found a silver lining to it]]: [[Series/BlackMirrorSanJunipero lesbian heaven]]
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-->-- A '''Website/{{Tumblr}}''' user [[https://lnception.tumblr.com/post/162663202129/every-lesbian-that-died-in-a-tv-show-is-now-happy that found a silver lining to it]]: the trope]]: [[Series/BlackMirrorSanJunipero lesbian heaven]]
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-->--'''Joe Ahearne''', [[https://horrorpedia.com/2017/04/27/b-and-b-2017-joe-ahearne-comedy-thriller-film-movie-plot-trailer/ discussing]] [[Film/BAndB B&B]]
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-->--'''Joe Ahearne''', [[https://horrorpedia.com/2017/04/27/b-and-b-2017-joe-ahearne-comedy-thriller-film-movie-plot-trailer/ discussing]] [[Film/BAndB B&B]]
''[[Film/BAndB B&B]]''
->''Every lesbian that died in a tv show is now happy in love with their girlfriend in San Junipero''
-->-- A '''Website/{{Tumblr}}''' user [[https://lnception.tumblr.com/post/162663202129/every-lesbian-that-died-in-a-tv-show-is-now-happy that found a silver lining to it]]: [[Series/BlackMirrorSanJunipero lesbian heaven]]
->''Every lesbian that died in a tv show is now happy in love with their girlfriend in San Junipero''
-->-- A '''Website/{{Tumblr}}''' user [[https://lnception.tumblr.com/post/162663202129/every-lesbian-that-died-in-a-tv-show-is-now-happy that found a silver lining to it]]: [[Series/BlackMirrorSanJunipero lesbian heaven]]
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-->--'''Horrorpedia''', [[https://horrorpedia.com/2017/04/27/b-and-b-2017-joe-ahearne-comedy-thriller-film-movie-plot-trailer/ review of]] [[Film/BAndB B&B]]
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->''"Gay movies are mostly boy meets boy or boy meets fatal disease"''
-->--'''Horrorpedia''', [[https://horrorpedia.com/2017/04/27/b-and-b-2017-joe-ahearne-comedy-thriller-film-movie-plot-trailer/ review of]] [[Film/BAndB B&B]]
-->--'''Horrorpedia''', [[https://horrorpedia.com/2017/04/27/b-and-b-2017-joe-ahearne-comedy-thriller-film-movie-plot-trailer/ review of]] [[Film/BAndB B&B]]