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** Bob is not actually suicidal and his actions make sense in context, but Alice sees him, thinks he's going to kill himself, and attempts to talk him out of it.
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** [[MistakenForSuicidal Bob is not actually suicidal suicidal]] and his actions make sense in context, but Alice sees him, thinks he's going to kill himself, and attempts to talk him out of it.
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** Alice tells Bob that she's been where he was before, and she knows what he's going through. The two have a nice, pleasant conversation that results in Bob deciding that death ain't worth it in the end.
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** Alice tries to talk Bob into not jumping... [[HeroicComedicSociopath Before pushing Bob himself, because the very reason why she didn't want him to commit suicide was to steal a kill]].
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* '''Downplayed''': Alice bluntly says,"Don't do it.".
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* '''Downplayed''': Alice bluntly says,"Don't says, "Don't do it.". "
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** Alice attempts to tell him he can easily score a chick backfire, as they confirm his fears that he, a gay, can't attract a man.
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** Alice attempts to tell him he can easily score a chick backfire, as they confirm his fears that he, a gay, gay person, can't attract a man.
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** Alice attempts to tell him he can easily score a chick backfire, as they confirm his fears that he, a gay, can't attract a man.
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* '''Implied''': Bob says he once tried to kill himself. When asked what made him stop, she says, "Who. It's who made me stop."
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* '''Implied''': Bob says he once tried to kill himself. When asked what made him stop, she he says, "Who. It's who made me stop."
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* '''Zig Zagged''': Alice shows up to talk Bob out of killing himself. Bob starts to listen to her and decides not to do it--until [[{{Jerkass}} Charlie]] shows up and taunts him into going through with it.
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* '''Zig Zagged''': Alice shows up to talk Bob out of killing himself. Bob starts to listen to her and decides not to do it--until [[{{Jerkass}} Charlie]] shows up and taunts him into going through with it. Bob doesn't listen to [[{{Jerkass}} Charlie]] and starts to give Charlie a ReasonWhyYouSuckSpeech.
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** After pulling Bob off the ledge, Alice tries to convince Bob that his life is worth living and to not try to kill himself again.
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* '''Justified''': Alice has been concerned, and came to check on Bob, only to find him about to kill himself.
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* '''Justified''': '''Justified''':
** Alice has been concerned, and came to check on Bob, only to find him about to killhimself. himself.
** Alice values Bob's life as well as everyone else's.
** Alice has been concerned, and came to check on Bob, only to find him about to kill
** Alice values Bob's life as well as everyone else's.
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* '''Downplayed''': ???
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* '''Downplayed''': ???Alice bluntly says,"Don't do it.".
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** Bob purposly plans his suicide to be while Alice is on a business trip.
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** Bob purposly purposely plans his suicide to be while Alice is on a business trip.
* '''Implied''': Bob says he once tried to kill himself. When asked what made him stop, she says, "Who. It's who made me stop."
* '''Deconstructed''': Alice can do nothing but spout cliches, without making Bob feel deserving of life at all. Bob kills himself, and Alice feels horribly guilty for not stopping it.
* '''Reconstructed''': Alice knows Bob very well, and also once studied psychology. She is able to deliver a well-thought-out speech pertinent to Bob's circumstances, and he backs down.
* '''Deconstructed''': Alice can do nothing but spout cliches, without making Bob feel deserving of life at all. Bob kills himself, and Alice feels horribly guilty for not stopping it.
* '''Reconstructed''': Alice knows Bob very well, and also once studied psychology. She is able to deliver a well-thought-out speech pertinent to Bob's circumstances, and he backs down.
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* '''Enforced''': ???
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* '''Enforced''': ???The executives want to do a VerySpecialEpisode about suicide, but they don't want to lose one of the main characters, so Alice has to talk Bob down.
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* '''Invoked''': ???
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* '''Invoked''': ???Dracone, Bob's FriendlyEnemy, knows he's suicidal and that he wouldn't be able to stop him, so he sends Alice to Bob's house, knowing that she ''can''.
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** Alice uses cliched phrases to talk Bob out of killing herself ("You have so much to live for", "It gets better", etc.)
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** Alice uses cliched phrases to talk Bob out of killing herself himself ("You have so much to live for", "It gets better", etc.)
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** Bob is in no actual danger of dying (is only a short distance from the ground if about to jump, using children's medicine to overdose on, etc.), but Alice attempts to talk her out of it with as much panic as if she would die if she went through with what she is about to do.
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** Bob is in no actual danger of dying (is only a short distance from the ground if about to jump, using children's medicine to overdose on, etc.), but Alice attempts to talk her him out of it with as much panic as if she he would die if she he went through with what she he is about to do.
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* '''Subverted''': Bob ignores Alice and goes ahead on killing himself anyway.
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* '''Subverted''': '''Subverted''':
** Bob ignores Alice and goes ahead on killing himselfanyway. anyway.
** At first it seems like Alice is going to talk Bob out of it, but instead she grabs him and physically pulls him from the ledge.
** Bob ignores Alice and goes ahead on killing himself
** At first it seems like Alice is going to talk Bob out of it, but instead she grabs him and physically pulls him from the ledge.
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* '''Defied''': Charlie stops Alice from talking Bob down because he wants Bob to kill himself.
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* '''Defied''': '''Defied''':
** Charlie stops Alice from talking Bob down because he wants Bob to killhimself.himself.
** Bob purposly plans his suicide to be while Alice is on a business trip.
** Charlie stops Alice from talking Bob down because he wants Bob to kill
** Bob purposly plans his suicide to be while Alice is on a business trip.
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** Bob uses cliched phrases to talk Alice out of killing herself ("You have so much to live for", "It gets better", etc.)
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** Bob Alice uses cliched phrases to talk Alice Bob out of killing herself ("You have so much to live for", "It gets better", etc.)
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** Alice is in no actual danger of dying (is only a short distance from the ground if about to jump, using children's medicine to overdose on, etc.), but Bob attempts to talk her out of it with as much panic as if she would die if she went through with what she is about to do.
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** Alice Bob is in no actual danger of dying (is only a short distance from the ground if about to jump, using children's medicine to overdose on, etc.), but Bob Alice attempts to talk her out of it with as much panic as if she would die if she went through with what she is about to do.
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* '''Zig Zagged''': Alice shows up to talk Bob out of killing himself. Bob starts to listen to her and decides not to do it--until Charlie shows up and taunts him into going through with it.
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* '''Zig Zagged''': Alice shows up to talk Bob out of killing himself. Bob starts to listen to her and decides not to do it--until Charlie [[{{Jerkass}} Charlie]] shows up and taunts him into going through with it.
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* '''Deconstructed''': Bob refuses to listen to Alice and falls, only [[BungledSuicide he doesn't die]], and has to spend the rest of his life as a paraplegic due to injuring his spinal cord.
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* '''Zig Zagged''': ???
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* '''Zig Zagged''': ???
Alice shows up to talk Bob out of killing himself. Bob starts to listen to her and decides not to do it--until Charlie shows up and taunts him into going through with it.
* '''Averted''':???Bob decides not to kill himself before Alice shows up.
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* '''Lampshaded''': ???
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* '''Lampshaded''': ???"Have you come to talk me out of killing myself?"
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* '''Defied''': ???Charlie stops Alice from talking Bob down because he wants Bob to kill himself.
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** Alice turns out to be quicker than Bob, and stops him long enough to actually talk him down.
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* '''Parodied''': Alice is in no actual danger of dying (is only a short distance from the ground if about to jump, using children's medicine to overdose on, etc.), but Bob attempts to talk her out of it with as much panic as if she would die if she went through with what she is about to do.
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* '''Parodied''': '''Parodied''':
** Alice is in no actual danger of dying (is only a short distance from the ground if about to jump, using children's medicine to overdose on, etc.), but Bob attempts to talk her out of it with as much panic as if she would die if she went through with what she is about to do.
** Alice is in no actual danger of dying (is only a short distance from the ground if about to jump, using children's medicine to overdose on, etc.), but Bob attempts to talk her out of it with as much panic as if she would die if she went through with what she is about to do.
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* '''Exaggerated''': Bob uses cliched phrases to talk Alice out of killing herself ("You have so much to live for", "It gets better", etc.)
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* '''Exaggerated''': '''Exaggerated''':
** Bob uses cliched phrases to talk Alice out of killing herself ("You have so much to live for", "It gets better", etc.)
** Bob uses cliched phrases to talk Alice out of killing herself ("You have so much to live for", "It gets better", etc.)
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* '''Justified''': Alice has been concerned, and came to check on Bob, only to find him about to kill himself.
* '''Inverted''': SuicideDare
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* '''Justified''': Alice has been concerned, and came to check on Bob, only to find him about to kill himself.
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* '''Double Subverted''': Bob actually faked his suicide.
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* '''Double Subverted''': Subverted''':
** Bob actually faked his suicide.
** Bob actually faked his suicide.
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* '''Deconstructed''': Bob refuses to listen to Alice and falls, only [[BungledSuicide he doesn't die]], and has to spend the rest of his life as a paraplegic due to injuring his spinal cord.
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* '''Played For Laughs''': SuicideAsComedy
* '''Played For Drama''': Pretty much always is.
* '''Played For Drama''': Pretty much always is.
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* '''Deconstructed''': Bob refuses to listen to Alice and falls, only [[BungledSuicide he doesn't die]], and has to spend the rest of his life as a paraplegic due to injuring his spinal cord.
* '''Played For Laughs''':SuicideAsComedy
* '''Played For Drama''': Pretty much always is.SuicideAsComedy.
* '''Played For Laughs''':
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* '''Deconstructed''': ???
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* '''Deconstructed''': ???Bob refuses to listen to Alice and falls, only [[BungledSuicide he doesn't die]], and has to spend the rest of his life as a paraplegic due to injuring his spinal cord.
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* '''Inverted''': Bob finds Alice holding a gun up to her head immediately after her DespairEventHorizon and encourages her to shoot herself. Alice does, and dies from it.
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* '''Inverted''': Bob finds Alice holding a gun up to her head immediately after her DespairEventHorizon and encourages her to shoot herself. Alice does, and dies from it. SuicideDare
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* '''Exaggerated''': Bob uses cliched phrases to talk Alioe out of killing herself ("You have so much to live for", "It gets better", etc.)
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* '''Exaggerated''': Bob uses cliched phrases to talk Alioe Alice out of killing herself ("You have so much to live for", "It gets better", etc.)
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** Bob [[BungledSuicide failed to kill himself]]. Bonus points if the reason he failed was because Alice [[CrazyPrepared intentionally sabotaged his suicide plan as a backup plan]].
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** Bob [[BungledSuicide failed to kill himself]]. Bonus points if the reason he failed was because Alice [[CrazyPrepared intentionally sabotaged his suicide plan as a backup plan]].plan in case Bob went ahead anyway]].
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** Alice was actually trying to persuade Bob to go through with killing themselves, but her words actually persuade Bob to not do it. Bonus points if Bob thanks her profusely for it.
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** Alice was actually trying to persuade Bob to go through with killing themselves, himself, but her words actually persuade Bob to not do it. Bonus points if Bob thanks her profusely for it.
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'''Basic Trope''': Someone (the Talker) finds out that another person (the Suicidal) intends to commit suicide and decides to try and talk them out of it.
* '''Straight''': Bob is standing on a ledge about to jump, when Alice sees him and goes over to talk him out of it.
* '''Exaggerated''': Bob uses cliched phrases to talk Alioe out of killing herself ("You have so much to live for", "It gets better", etc.)
** The Talker is a celebrity who is not a main or supporting character in the work (bonus points if the Suicidal in question is a fan of theirs)
* '''Justified''': Alice has been concerned, and came to check on Bob, only to find him about to kill himself.
* '''Inverted''': Bob finds Alice holding a gun up to her head immediately after her DespairEventHorizon and encourages her to shoot herself. Alice does, and dies from it.
* '''Subverted''': Bob ignores Alice and goes ahead on killing himself anyway.
* '''Double Subverted''': Bob actually faked his suicide.
** Bob [[BungledSuicide failed to kill himself]]. Bonus points if the reason he failed was because Alice [[CrazyPrepared intentionally sabotaged his suicide plan as a backup plan]].
* '''Parodied''': Alice is in no actual danger of dying (is only a short distance from the ground if about to jump, using children's medicine to overdose on, etc.), but Bob attempts to talk her out of it with as much panic as if she would die if she went through with what she is about to do.
** Bob is not actually suicidal and his actions make sense in context, but Alice sees him, thinks he's going to kill himself, and attempts to talk him out of it.
** Alice was actually trying to persuade Bob to go through with killing themselves, but her words actually persuade Bob to not do it. Bonus points if Bob thanks her profusely for it.
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* '''Reconstructed''': ???
* '''Zig Zagged''': ???
* '''Averted''': ???
* '''Enforced''': ???
* '''Lampshaded''': ???
* '''Defied''': ???
* '''Discussed''': ???
* '''Conversed''': ???
* '''Played For Laughs''': SuicideAsComedy
* '''Played For Drama''': Pretty much always is.
* '''Straight''': Bob is standing on a ledge about to jump, when Alice sees him and goes over to talk him out of it.
* '''Exaggerated''': Bob uses cliched phrases to talk Alioe out of killing herself ("You have so much to live for", "It gets better", etc.)
** The Talker is a celebrity who is not a main or supporting character in the work (bonus points if the Suicidal in question is a fan of theirs)
* '''Justified''': Alice has been concerned, and came to check on Bob, only to find him about to kill himself.
* '''Inverted''': Bob finds Alice holding a gun up to her head immediately after her DespairEventHorizon and encourages her to shoot herself. Alice does, and dies from it.
* '''Subverted''': Bob ignores Alice and goes ahead on killing himself anyway.
* '''Double Subverted''': Bob actually faked his suicide.
** Bob [[BungledSuicide failed to kill himself]]. Bonus points if the reason he failed was because Alice [[CrazyPrepared intentionally sabotaged his suicide plan as a backup plan]].
* '''Parodied''': Alice is in no actual danger of dying (is only a short distance from the ground if about to jump, using children's medicine to overdose on, etc.), but Bob attempts to talk her out of it with as much panic as if she would die if she went through with what she is about to do.
** Bob is not actually suicidal and his actions make sense in context, but Alice sees him, thinks he's going to kill himself, and attempts to talk him out of it.
** Alice was actually trying to persuade Bob to go through with killing themselves, but her words actually persuade Bob to not do it. Bonus points if Bob thanks her profusely for it.
* '''Deconstructed''': ???
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* '''Zig Zagged''': ???
* '''Averted''': ???
* '''Enforced''': ???
* '''Lampshaded''': ???
* '''Defied''': ???
* '''Discussed''': ???
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* '''Played For Laughs''': SuicideAsComedy
* '''Played For Drama''': Pretty much always is.
