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* '''Enforced''': Persephone is [[CreatorsPest hated by most of the developers]], so they made it complicated to get her.

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Persephone is [[CreatorsPest hated by most of the developers]], so they made it complicated to get her.her.
** [[GlitchEntity PeRsepH0nE]] is the result of the developers not safeguarding against Olivia's Summon Mon spell calling the mon at slot [=OutOfBounds=] as all other places have all 8 slots populated with valid data. Whereas the RandomEncounter system is safeguarded against it.

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* '''Straight''': [[TokenHuman Prince Hiro]], [[KnightInShiningArmour Lance]], [[KingOfBeasts Dennis]], [[BareFistedMonk Marcy]], and [[WhiteMage Claudia]] must take [[GuestStarPartyMember Olivia]] with them to unlock the {{Mon}} Persephone, otherwise Olivia dies.
* '''Exaggerated''': The steps to getting Persephone are: talk to two random [=NPC=]s, go to three certain areas, check an object too early, listen to a rumor, and take Olivia. As well as that, let some party members have a fight with someone, talk to another person who isn't so random, continue through the game, and wait for the event to be triggered. None of this is hinted at anywhere, making a massive GuideDangIt.
* '''Downplayed''':
** In order to unlock Persephone, Olivia must be taken back to her home town from near the beginning of the game. It's well known that Olivia is from there, but nobody actively says they should take her back there.
** It is possible to figure out that [[TykeBomb Ali]][[PsychicPowers ce]] is recruitable only if [[ViolationOfCommonSense you don't defeat her with the tranquilizers dart-guns instead of using normal lethal force]] in spite of [[WhatTheHellHero everyone calling Hiro out]] [[WouldHurtAChild for fighting a child]]. Turns out that she has such [[AfraidOfNeedles serious trauma]] from PlayingWithSyringes {{Mad Scientist}}s that she would never forgive Hiro for using them on her even if he does free her. There are a few subtle hints at this however like her reactions becoming more panicked when they are equipped and her attack powers becoming more erratic but those are also common boss reactions to brandished weaknesses. There is also FridgeBrilliance to it - to get her to join you need to care about what /she/ feels as opposed to what everyone else thought was the right thing to do.
* '''Justified''': The events to getting Persephone lead in to her arrival.

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* '''Straight''': [[TokenHuman Prince Hiro]], [[KnightInShiningArmour Lance]], [[KingOfBeasts Dennis]], [[BareFistedMonk Marcy]], and [[WhiteMage Claudia]] The player must take [[GuestStarPartyMember Olivia]] with them to the game's underworld dungeon to unlock the {{Mon}} Persephone, otherwise Olivia dies.
Persephone. It's never hinted that taking her there would do anything during her brief time in the party.
* '''Exaggerated''': The steps to getting Persephone are: talk to two random [=NPC=]s, go to three certain areas, check an object too early, listen to a rumor, and take Olivia. As well as that, let some party members have a fight with someone, talk to another person who isn't so random, random [=NPC=], continue through the game, and wait for the event to be triggered. None of this is hinted at anywhere, making a massive GuideDangIt.
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'''Downplayed''': In order to unlock Persephone, Olivia must be taken back to her home town from near the beginning of the game. It's well known that Olivia is from there, and the player will most likely visit it anyway, but nobody actively says they should take her back there.
** It is possible to figure out that [[TykeBomb Ali]][[PsychicPowers ce]] is recruitable only if [[ViolationOfCommonSense you don't defeat her with the tranquilizers dart-guns instead of using normal lethal force]] in spite of [[WhatTheHellHero everyone calling Hiro out]] [[WouldHurtAChild for fighting a child]]. Turns out that she has such [[AfraidOfNeedles serious trauma]] from PlayingWithSyringes {{Mad Scientist}}s that she would never forgive Hiro for using them on her even if he does free her. There are a few subtle hints at this however like her reactions becoming more panicked when they are equipped and her attack powers becoming more erratic but those are also common boss reactions to brandished weaknesses. There is also FridgeBrilliance to it - to get her to join you need to care about what /she/ feels as opposed to what everyone else thought was the right thing to do.
* '''Justified''': The events to getting When Persephone lead in to appears, she states that she fears most humans, but [[AndroclesLion Olivia treated her arrival.well in the past.]]



** A monster which needs to be obtained, and can be done with relative ease, [[SwordOfPlotAdvancement to advance the plot]].
** Alternately, a character who can be permanently ''removed'' from the playable cast in a secret event.
* '''Subverted''': Olivia says she's always wanted to see Persephone when you get her.
* '''Double Subverted''': But she always says that about the other mons you can get.
* '''Parodied''': To keep Olivia alive you have to use the "chicken dance" action from the menu 100 times with her in the group, and she starts dancing with the message "Olivia has joined the party".

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** A monster which Persephone needs to be obtained, and can be done with relative ease, obtained [[SwordOfPlotAdvancement to advance the plot]].
plot]], and the player can do so with relative ease.
** Alternately, a character who Persephone can be permanently ''removed'' from the playable cast in a secret event.
* '''Subverted''': Olivia says she's always wanted to see The player can find information on Persephone when you and how to get her.
her elsewhere in the game, making her no longer secret.
* '''Double Subverted''': But she always says that about the other mons you can get.
The information is itself very well-hidden.
* '''Parodied''': To keep Olivia alive you have to use the "chicken dance" action from the menu 100 times with her in the group, and she starts dancing with the message "Olivia has joined the party".???



* '''Averted''': All monsters in the game are obtained easily.
* '''Enforced''': Olivia is hated by most other developers so they made it complicated to keep her.
* '''Lampshaded''': "You know, compared with the rest of the quest, [[GuideDangIt the fact that Olivia had to see Persephone to lift her curse wasn't really brought up by anybody, was it?]]"
* '''Implied''': A canceled game has Oliva's silhouettes hidden only in the art and she never shows up in the screenshots but is styled like the others.
* '''Invoked''': BreakoutMookCharacter

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* '''Averted''': All monsters in the game are obtained easily.
in a straightforward way.
* '''Enforced''': Olivia Persephone is [[CreatorsPest hated by most other developers of the developers]], so they made it complicated to keep get her.
* '''Lampshaded''': "You know, compared with the rest of the quest, [[GuideDangIt the fact that Olivia had to see Persephone to lift her curse wasn't really brought up by anybody, was it?]]"
a lot of effort just to get one {{Mon}}."
* '''Implied''': A canceled game has Oliva's silhouettes hidden only Even when you have all of the other {{Mons}}, [[InterfaceSpoiler there's one blank area in the art and she never shows up in the screenshots but is styled like the others.
menu to select them.]]
* '''Invoked''': BreakoutMookCharacter???



* '''Defied''': Olivia outright tells you one of her only hopes of living is to see Persephone.

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* '''Defied''': Olivia outright tells you that one of her only hopes of living is to see Persephone.Persephone, and tells you to take her to the underworld.
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* '''Downplayed''': In order to unlock Persephone, Olivia must be taken back to her home town from near the beginning of the game. It's well known that Olivia is from there, but nobody actively says they should take her back there.

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* '''Downplayed''': '''Downplayed''':
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In order to unlock Persephone, Olivia must be taken back to her home town from near the beginning of the game. It's well known that Olivia is from there, but nobody actively says they should take her back there.



* '''Inverted''': A monster which needs to be obtained, and can be done with relative ease, [[SwordOfPlotAdvancement to advance the plot]].

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* '''Inverted''': '''Inverted''':
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A monster which needs to be obtained, and can be done with relative ease, [[SwordOfPlotAdvancement to advance the plot]].
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** It is possible to figure out that [[TykeBomb Ali]][[PsychicPowers ce]] is recruitable only if [[ViolationOfCommonSense you don't defeat her with the tranquilizers dart-guns instead of using normal lethal force]] in spite of [[WhatTheHellHero everyone calling Hiro out]] [[WouldHurtAChild for fighting a child]]. Turns out that she has such [[AfraidOfNeedles serious trauma]] from PlayingWithSyringes [[{{MadScientest}}s]] that she would never forgive Hiro for using them on her even if he does free her. There are a few subtle hints at this however like her reactions becoming more panicked when they are equipped and her attack powers becoming more erratic but those are also common boss reactions to brandished weaknesses. There is also FridgeBrilliance to it - to get her to join you need to care about what /she/ feels as opposed to what everyone else thought was the right thing to do.

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** It is possible to figure out that [[TykeBomb Ali]][[PsychicPowers ce]] is recruitable only if [[ViolationOfCommonSense you don't defeat her with the tranquilizers dart-guns instead of using normal lethal force]] in spite of [[WhatTheHellHero everyone calling Hiro out]] [[WouldHurtAChild for fighting a child]]. Turns out that she has such [[AfraidOfNeedles serious trauma]] from PlayingWithSyringes [[{{MadScientest}}s]] {{Mad Scientist}}s that she would never forgive Hiro for using them on her even if he does free her. There are a few subtle hints at this however like her reactions becoming more panicked when they are equipped and her attack powers becoming more erratic but those are also common boss reactions to brandished weaknesses. There is also FridgeBrilliance to it - to get her to join you need to care about what /she/ feels as opposed to what everyone else thought was the right thing to do.
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** ** It is possible to figure out that [[TykeBomb Ali]][[PsychicPowers ce]] is recruitable only if [[ViolationOfCommonSense you don't defeat her with the tranquilizers dart-guns instead of using normal lethal force]] in spite of [[WhatTheHellHero everyone calling Hiro out]] [[WouldHurtAChild for fighting a child]]. Turns out that she has such [[AfraidOfNeedles serious trauma]] from PlayingWithSyringes [[{{MadScientest}}s]] that she would never forgive Hiro for using them on her even if he does free her. There are a few subtle hints at this however like her reactions becoming more panicked when they are equipped and her attack powers becoming more erratic but those are also common boss reactions to brandished weaknesses. There is also FridgeBrilliance to it - to get her to join you need to care about what /she/ feels as opposed to what everyone else thought was the right thing to do.

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** ** It is possible to figure out that [[TykeBomb Ali]][[PsychicPowers ce]] is recruitable only if [[ViolationOfCommonSense you don't defeat her with the tranquilizers dart-guns instead of using normal lethal force]] in spite of [[WhatTheHellHero everyone calling Hiro out]] [[WouldHurtAChild for fighting a child]]. Turns out that she has such [[AfraidOfNeedles serious trauma]] from PlayingWithSyringes [[{{MadScientest}}s]] that she would never forgive Hiro for using them on her even if he does free her. There are a few subtle hints at this however like her reactions becoming more panicked when they are equipped and her attack powers becoming more erratic but those are also common boss reactions to brandished weaknesses. There is also FridgeBrilliance to it - to get her to join you need to care about what /she/ feels as opposed to what everyone else thought was the right thing to do.
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** ** It is possible to figure out that [[TykeBomb Ali][[PsychicPowers ce]] is recruitable only if you don't [[ViolationOfCommonSense defeat her with the tranquilizers dartguns instead of beating her up]] in spite of [[WhatTheHellHero everyone calling Hiro out]] [[WouldHurtAChild for fighting a child]]. Turns out that she has such [[AfraidOfNeedles serious trauma]] from PlayingWithSyringes [[{{MadScientest}}s]] that she would never forgive Hiro for using them on her even if he does free her. There are a few subtle hints at this however like her reactions becoming more panicked when they are equipped and her attack powers becoming more erratic but those are also common boss reactions to brandished weaknesses. There is also FridgeBrilliance to it - to get her to join you need to care about what /she/ feels as opposed to what everyone else thought was the right thing to do.

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** ** It is possible to figure out that [[TykeBomb Ali][[PsychicPowers Ali]][[PsychicPowers ce]] is recruitable only if you don't [[ViolationOfCommonSense you don't defeat her with the tranquilizers dartguns dart-guns instead of beating her up]] using normal lethal force]] in spite of [[WhatTheHellHero everyone calling Hiro out]] [[WouldHurtAChild for fighting a child]]. Turns out that she has such [[AfraidOfNeedles serious trauma]] from PlayingWithSyringes [[{{MadScientest}}s]] that she would never forgive Hiro for using them on her even if he does free her. There are a few subtle hints at this however like her reactions becoming more panicked when they are equipped and her attack powers becoming more erratic but those are also common boss reactions to brandished weaknesses. There is also FridgeBrilliance to it - to get her to join you need to care about what /she/ feels as opposed to what everyone else thought was the right thing to do.



* '''Parodied''': To keep Olivia alive you have to use the "chicken dance" action from the menu 100 times with her in the group, and she starts danceing with the message "Olivia has joined the party".

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* '''Parodied''': To keep Olivia alive you have to use the "chicken dance" action from the menu 100 times with her in the group, and she starts danceing dancing with the message "Olivia has joined the party".

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* '''Downplayed''': In order to unlock Persephone, Olivia must be taken back to her home town from near the begining of the game. It's well known that Olivia is from there, but nobody actively says they should take her back there.

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* '''Downplayed''': In order to unlock Persephone, Olivia must be taken back to her home town from near the begining beginning of the game. It's well known that Olivia is from there, but nobody actively says they should take her back there.there.
** ** It is possible to figure out that [[TykeBomb Ali][[PsychicPowers ce]] is recruitable only if you don't [[ViolationOfCommonSense defeat her with the tranquilizers dartguns instead of beating her up]] in spite of [[WhatTheHellHero everyone calling Hiro out]] [[WouldHurtAChild for fighting a child]]. Turns out that she has such [[AfraidOfNeedles serious trauma]] from PlayingWithSyringes [[{{MadScientest}}s]] that she would never forgive Hiro for using them on her even if he does free her. There are a few subtle hints at this however like her reactions becoming more panicked when they are equipped and her attack powers becoming more erratic but those are also common boss reactions to brandished weaknesses. There is also FridgeBrilliance to it - to get her to join you need to care about what /she/ feels as opposed to what everyone else thought was the right thing to do.


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* '''Implied''': A canceled game has Oliva's silhouettes hidden only in the art and she never shows up in the screenshots but is styled like the others.
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** Alternately, a character who can be permanently ''removed'' from the playable cast in a secret event.
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* '''Downplayed''': ???

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* '''Downplayed''': ???In order to unlock Persephone, Olivia must be taken back to her home town from near the begining of the game. It's well known that Olivia is from there, but nobody actively says they should take her back there.



* '''Subverted''': ???
* '''Double Subverted''': ???
* '''Parodied''': ???

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* '''Subverted''': ???
Olivia says she's always wanted to see Persephone when you get her.
* '''Double Subverted''': ???
But she always says that about the other mons you can get.
* '''Parodied''': ???To keep Olivia alive you have to use the "chicken dance" action from the menu 100 times with her in the group, and she starts danceing with the message "Olivia has joined the party".



* '''Enforced''': ???
* '''Lampshaded''': ???

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* '''Enforced''': ???
Olivia is hated by most other developers so they made it complicated to keep her.
* '''Lampshaded''': ???"You know, compared with the rest of the quest, [[GuideDangIt the fact that Olivia had to see Persephone to lift her curse wasn't really brought up by anybody, was it?]]"



* '''Defied''': ???

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* '''Defied''': ???Olivia outright tells you one of her only hopes of living is to see Persephone.

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* '''Exaggerated''': The steps to getting Persephone are: talk to two random [=NPC=]s, go to three certain areas, check an object too early, listen to a rumour, and take Olivia. As well as that, let some party members have a fight with someone, talk to another person who isn't so random, continue through the game, and wait for the event to be triggered. None of this is hinted at anywhere, making a massive GuideDangIt.

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* '''Exaggerated''': The steps to getting Persephone are: talk to two random [=NPC=]s, go to three certain areas, check an object too early, listen to a rumour, rumor, and take Olivia. As well as that, let some party members have a fight with someone, talk to another person who isn't so random, continue through the game, and wait for the event to be triggered. None of this is hinted at anywhere, making a massive GuideDangIt.GuideDangIt.
* '''Downplayed''': ???



* '''Inverted''': A monster which needs to be obtained, and can be done so quite easily, to advance the plot.

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* '''Inverted''': A monster which needs to be obtained, and can be done so quite easily, with relative ease, [[SwordOfPlotAdvancement to advance the plot.plot]].
* '''Subverted''': ???
* '''Double Subverted''': ???
* '''Parodied''': ???
* '''Zig Zagged''': ???



* '''Invoked''': BreakoutMookCharacter

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* '''Straight''': [[TheWhitePrince Prince]] [[TokenHuman Hi]][[HeroesPreferSwords ro]], [[KnightInShiningArmour La]][[CoolHorse nce]], [[KingOfBeasts Den]][[BlackMage nis]], [[BareFistedMonk Mar]][[BigBadassBirdOfPrey cy]], and [[WhiteMage Clau]][[BigBadassWolf dia]] must take [[GuestStarPartyMember Olivia]] with them to unlock the {{Mon}} Persephone, otherwise Olivia dies.

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* '''Straight''': [[TheWhitePrince Prince]] [[TokenHuman Hi]][[HeroesPreferSwords ro]], Prince Hiro]], [[KnightInShiningArmour La]][[CoolHorse nce]], Lance]], [[KingOfBeasts Den]][[BlackMage nis]], Dennis]], [[BareFistedMonk Mar]][[BigBadassBirdOfPrey cy]], Marcy]], and [[WhiteMage Clau]][[BigBadassWolf dia]] Claudia]] must take [[GuestStarPartyMember Olivia]] with them to unlock the {{Mon}} Persephone, otherwise Olivia dies.
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* '''Invoked''': ADayInTheSlimelight

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* '''Invoked''': ADayInTheSlimelightBreakoutMookCharacter
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* '''Averted''': All monsters in the game are obtained easily.

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* '''Averted''': All monsters in the game are obtained easily.easily.
* '''Invoked''': ADayInTheSlimelight

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