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** Alternatively, Bob is a HarmlessVillain
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* '''Played For Laughs''': Bob is a delusional dumbass who thinks he's the hero when he's really no better than a common muggle. The main characters eat popcorn and watch as he gets wiped out.
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* '''Played For Laughs''': Laughs''':
** Bob is a delusional dumbass who thinks he's the hero when he's really no better than a common muggle. The main characters eat popcorn and watch as he gets wipedout.out.
** Bob becomes so fed up with being a loser that he becomes TheUnfettered, willing to do anything to achieve success, including [[FaceHeelTurn becoming evil]]… [[IneffectualSympatheticVillain and he still sucks]].
** Bob is a delusional dumbass who thinks he's the hero when he's really no better than a common muggle. The main characters eat popcorn and watch as he gets wiped
** Bob becomes so fed up with being a loser that he becomes TheUnfettered, willing to do anything to achieve success, including [[FaceHeelTurn becoming evil]]… [[IneffectualSympatheticVillain and he still sucks]].
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'''Basic Trope''': A hero who never wins, thus neuters any tension that involves him.
* '''Straight''': Bob never wins any fights he's in so the fans no longer care about them.
* '''Exaggerated''': Bob's fights manage to put all who watch to sleep, as they wonder just how long it takes before he gets his eventual asskicking.
* '''Straight''': Bob never wins any fights he's in so the fans no longer care about them.
* '''Exaggerated''': Bob's fights manage to put all who watch to sleep, as they wonder just how long it takes before he gets his eventual asskicking.
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'''Basic Trope''': A hero who never wins, thus neuters any tension that involves him.
wins.
* '''Straight''': Bob never wins any fights he'sin so the fans no longer care about them.
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* '''Exaggerated''': Bob'sfights manage to put all who watch to sleep, as efforts not only always end in failure, they wonder just how long it takes before he gets always disastrously aid his eventual asskicking.enemies' goals.
* '''Straight''': Bob never wins any fights he's
* '''Exaggerated''': Bob's
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* '''Justified''': Fans can only invest their time in watching Bob [[TookALevelInBadass Taking Levels In Bad Ass]] before it becomes pointless.
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* '''Justified''': Fans can only invest their time in watching '''Justified''':
** Bob[[TookALevelInBadass Taking Levels In Bad Ass]] before it becomes pointless.is completely incompetent.
** Bob is fighting an InvincibleVillain and is thus punching way above his weight class.
** Bob is unknowingly being sabotaged by a FalseFriend.
** Bob
** Bob is fighting an InvincibleVillain and is thus punching way above his weight class.
** Bob is unknowingly being sabotaged by a FalseFriend.
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* '''Subverted''': Bob still loses in every fight he's in, but fans, who still find {{Hope Spot}}s still watch to see if he can finally win.
* '''Double Subverted''': ...Only to find that these so-called {{Hope Spot}}s only lead to disappointment.
* '''Parodied''':
** Bob's fights are so boring even ''his opponent'' falls asleep.
** Bob's a BoisterousWeakling, who cannot comprehend he's [[MilesGloriosus nowhere near as strong as he talks himself up to be]], and watching the idiot get creamed is part of the gag.
* '''Zig Zagged''': Bob's fights start off as usual (getting his ass kicked), but HopeSpot after HopeSpot brings up the possibility that it may go different this time, [[StatusQuoIsGod only for it to be business as usual]].
* '''Double Subverted''': ...Only to find that these so-called {{Hope Spot}}s only lead to disappointment.
* '''Parodied''':
** Bob's fights are so boring even ''his opponent'' falls asleep.
** Bob's a BoisterousWeakling, who cannot comprehend he's [[MilesGloriosus nowhere near as strong as he talks himself up to be]], and watching the idiot get creamed is part of the gag.
* '''Zig Zagged''': Bob's fights start off as usual (getting his ass kicked), but HopeSpot after HopeSpot brings up the possibility that it may go different this time, [[StatusQuoIsGod only for it to be business as usual]].
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* '''Subverted''': Bob still loses in every fight he's in, but fans, who still find {{Hope Spot}}s still watch to see if he can finally win.
manages to score a victory.
* '''DoubleSubverted''': ...Only to find that these so-called {{Hope Spot}}s only lead to disappointment.
* '''Parodied''':
**Subverted''': Bob's fights are so boring even ''his opponent'' falls asleep.
**"victory" played right into his enemies' hands.
* '''Parodied''': Bob's a BoisterousWeakling, who cannot comprehend he's [[MilesGloriosus nowhere near as strong as he talks himself up tobe]], and watching the idiot get creamed is part of the gag.
be]].
* '''Zig Zagged''': Bob'sfights start off as usual (getting ability to accomplish things varies from season to season; sometimes he's got a decent shot at stopping the villains, and sometimes he is constantly getting fed his ass kicked), but HopeSpot after HopeSpot brings up the possibility that it may go different this time, [[StatusQuoIsGod only for it to be business as usual]].own teeth.
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* '''Parodied''':
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* '''Parodied''': Bob's a BoisterousWeakling, who cannot comprehend he's [[MilesGloriosus nowhere near as strong as he talks himself up to
* '''Zig Zagged''': Bob's
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* '''Enforced''': The writers do their best to make Bob's losing battle as least interesting as possible.
* '''Lampshaded''': "Why does he even bother fighting, he's just going to get his ass kicked!"
* '''Invoked''': "There is no way I can win. I'm not even gonna try".
* '''Lampshaded''': "Why does he even bother fighting, he's just going to get his ass kicked!"
* '''Invoked''': "There is no way I can win. I'm not even gonna try".
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* '''Enforced''': The writers do their best want to make Bob's losing battle as least interesting as possible.
ally Alice look better by giving her an incompetent foil.
* '''Lampshaded''': "Why does he even botherfighting, he's fighting? He's just going to get his ass kicked!"
* '''Invoked''':"There is no way I Bob's {{Sabotutor}} screws up his training so he can win. I'm not even gonna try".get his ass kicked, helping the villains.
* '''Lampshaded''': "Why does he even bother
* '''Invoked''':
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** Not only does Bob train everyday to avoid losing, but he adds a few flashy moves to his style, just to keep people interested.
** Creator/ChuckNorris roundhouse kicks Bob away and takes over his hero role.
* '''Discussed''': "Why do you let Bob fight, you know he's just gonna get his ass kicked!"
* '''Conversed''': "Why do you even bother? You just get your ass kicked every time!"
** Creator/ChuckNorris roundhouse kicks Bob away and takes over his hero role.
* '''Discussed''': "Why do you let Bob fight, you know he's just gonna get his ass kicked!"
* '''Conversed''': "Why do you even bother? You just get your ass kicked every time!"
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** Not only does Bob train everyday undergoes extreme training to avoid losing, but ensure he adds a few flashy moves to his style, just to keep people interested.
is capable of opposing the villains.
**Creator/ChuckNorris Chuck roundhouse kicks Bob away and takes over his hero role.
** Bob throws in the towel and lets more competent heroes take over.
* '''Discussed''': "Why do you let Bobfight, you fight? You know he's just gonna get his ass kicked!"
* '''Conversed''':"Why do you even bother? You just get your ass kicked every time!""You ever wonder why these writers never let the hero win?"
**
** Bob throws in the towel and lets more competent heroes take over.
* '''Discussed''': "Why do you let Bob
* '''Conversed''':
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** Bob's is seen so much as an ineffective fighter by fans to the point where he's seen as TheLoad, bordering on being TheScrappy due to his uselessness.
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* '''Reconstructed''': But fans come to respect him for, despite how predictable his fights are, [[{{Determinator}} trying to fight against opponents who he has no chance of winning]].
** Failing makes Bob a relatable hero who teaches fans that you can't win them all, but that shouldn't stop you from trying to do the right thing.
** Bob eventually learns from his past failures and eventually ''wins''!
* '''Plotted A Good Waste''': Bob constantly loses every fight he's in to the point where he's seen as [[ObfuscatingStupidity useless and not a threat in order for his enemies to lower their guard around him]]. Giving him the perfect opportunity to go all out on his enemies at their most vulnerable.
** Failing makes Bob a relatable hero who teaches fans that you can't win them all, but that shouldn't stop you from trying to do the right thing.
** Bob eventually learns from his past failures and eventually ''wins''!
* '''Plotted A Good Waste''': Bob constantly loses every fight he's in to the point where he's seen as [[ObfuscatingStupidity useless and not a threat in order for his enemies to lower their guard around him]]. Giving him the perfect opportunity to go all out on his enemies at their most vulnerable.
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* '''Reconstructed''': But fans come to respect him for, despite how predictable his fights are, [[{{Determinator}} trying to fight against opponents '''Reconstructed''':
** Bob may be a failure of a hero, but he's also a {{Determinator}} whohe has no chance of winning]].
** Failing makes Bob a relatable hero who teaches fans that you can't win them all, but that shouldn'twill never stop you from trying to do the right thing.
** Bobeventually learns from his past failures and eventually ''wins''!
* '''Plotted A Good Waste''': Bob constantly loses every fight he's in to the point where he's seen as [[ObfuscatingStupidity useless and not a threat in order for his enemies to lower their guard aroundhim]]. Giving him]], giving him the perfect opportunity to go all out on his enemies at their most vulnerable.
** Bob may be a failure of a hero, but he's also a {{Determinator}} who
** Failing makes Bob a relatable hero who teaches fans that you can't win them all, but that shouldn't
** Bob
* '''Plotted A Good Waste''': Bob constantly loses every fight he's in to the point where he's seen as [[ObfuscatingStupidity useless and not a threat in order for his enemies to lower their guard around
* '''Played For Laughs''': Bob is a delusional dumbass who thinks he's the hero when he's really no better than a common muggle. The main characters eat popcorn and watch as he gets wiped out.
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* '''Exaggerated''': Bob's fights manage to put all who watch to sleep, as they wonder just how long before he gets his eventual asskicking.
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* '''Exaggerated''': Bob's fights manage to put all who watch to sleep, as they wonder just how long it takes before he gets his eventual asskicking.
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* '''Defied''': Not only does Bob train everyday to avoid losing, but he adds a few flashy moves to his style, just to keep people interested.
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* '''Defied''': '''Defied''':
** Not only does Bob train everyday to avoid losing, but he adds a few flashy moves to his style, just to keep peopleinterested.interested.
** Creator/ChuckNorris roundhouse kicks Bob away and takes over his hero role.
** Not only does Bob train everyday to avoid losing, but he adds a few flashy moves to his style, just to keep people
** Creator/ChuckNorris roundhouse kicks Bob away and takes over his hero role.
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* '''Exaggerated''': Bob's fights manages to put all who watch to sleep, as they wonder just how long before he gets his eventual asskicking.
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* '''Exaggerated''': Bob's fights manages manage to put all who watch to sleep, as they wonder just how long before he gets his eventual asskicking.
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** Failing makes Bob a relatable hero who teaches fans that you can't win them all, but that shouldn't stop you from trying to do the right thing.
** Bob eventually learns from his past failures and eventually ''wins''!
** Bob eventually learns from his past failures and eventually ''wins''!
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* '''Inverted''': InvincibleHero.
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* '''Inverted''': '''Inverted''':
** IneffectualSympatheticVillain
** InvincibleHero.
** IneffectualSympatheticVillain
** InvincibleHero.
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* '''Implied''': We don't see the fight onscreen, but only Bob slinking back dejected and wounded, while Alice just [[Facepalm nurses her forehead in her hands]] and says "Again?"
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* '''Implied''': We don't see the fight onscreen, but only Bob slinking back dejected and wounded, while Alice just [[Facepalm [[{{Facepalm}} nurses her forehead in her hands]] and says "Again?"
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* '''Played For Drama''': Bob never wins any fight and contributes absolutely nothing to help make a community safer or better, leading to other people to no longer care about him -- and he hates himself for it so much that he snaps.
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* '''Played For Drama''': Bob never wins any fight and contributes absolutely nothing to help make a community safer or better, leading to other people to no longer care about everyone including himself looking down on and disrespecting him as an utter failure -- and he hates himself for it so much that he snaps.
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* '''Played For Drama''': Bob never wins any fight and contribute absolutely nothing to help make a community safer or better, leading to other people to no longer care about him -- and he hates himself for it so much that he snaps.
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* '''Played For Drama''': Bob never wins any fight and contribute contributes absolutely nothing to help make a community safer or better, leading to other people to no longer care about him -- and he hates himself for it so much that he snaps.
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* '''Played For Drama''': Bob never wins any fight and contribute absolutely nothing to help make a community safer or better, leading to other people to no longer care about him -- and he hate himself for it so much that he snaps.
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* '''Played For Drama''': Bob never wins any fight and contribute absolutely nothing to help make a community safer or better, leading to other people to no longer care about him -- and he hate hates himself for it so much that he snaps.
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* '''Played For Drama''': Bob never wins any fight and contribute absolutely nothing to help make a community safer or better, leading to other people to no longer care about him -- and he hate himself for it so much that he snaps.
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* '''Exaggerated''':
** Bob's fights manages to put all who watch to sleep, as they wonder just how long before he gets his eventual asskicking.
** Bob's fights manages to put all who watch to sleep, as they wonder just how long before he gets his eventual asskicking.
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* '''Exaggerated''':
**'''Exaggerated''': Bob's fights manages to put all who watch to sleep, as they wonder just how long before he gets his eventual asskicking.
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** Bob snaps and throws away the things he perceives to be making him such a failure: things like empathy and restraint. The result is a cold-blooded SociopathicHero willing to cross any line to get what he wants.
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* '''Parodied''': Bob's fights are so boring even ''his opponent'' falls asleep.
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* '''Parodied''': '''Parodied''':
** Bob's fights are so boring even ''his opponent'' falls asleep.
** Bob's fights are so boring even ''his opponent'' falls asleep.
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** Bob's a BoisterousWeakling, who cannot comprehend he's [[Miles Gloriosus nowhere near as strong as he talks himself up to be]], and watching the idiot get creamed is part of the gag.
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** Bob's a BoisterousWeakling, who cannot comprehend he's [[Miles Gloriosus [[MilesGloriosus nowhere near as strong as he talks himself up to be]], and watching the idiot get creamed is part of the gag.
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** Bob's a BoisterousWeakling, who cannot comprehend he's [[Miles Gloriosus nowhere near as strong as he talks himself up to be]], and watching the idiot get creamed is part of the gag.
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* '''Exploited''': ???Bob's ally Alice starts [[XanatosGambit planning around his failures]], figuring he's going to screw it up anyway.
* '''Implied''': We don't see the fight onscreen, but only Bob slinking back dejected and wounded, while Alice just [[Facepalm nurses her forehead in her hands]] and says "Again?"
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* '''Reconstructed''': But fans come to respect him for, despite how predictable his fights are, [[{{Determinator}} trying to fight against opponents who he has no chance of winning]].
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* '''Reconstructed''': But fans come to respect him for, despite how predictable his fights are, [[{{Determinator}} trying to fight against opponents who he has no chance of winning]].
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* '''Downplayed''': Bob is capable of victories, including several minor ones. However, his ultimate goals rarely get resolved, and if they are he needs help, because he is not strong on his own.
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* '''Downplayed''': Bob is capable of victories, including several minor ones. However, his ultimate goals rarely get resolved, and if they are are, he needs help, because he is not strong enough on his own.
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* '''Downplayed''': ???Bob is capable of victories, including several minor ones. However, his ultimate goals rarely get resolved, and if they are he needs help, because he is not strong on his own.
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* '''Deconstructed''': Bob's is seen so much as an ineffective fighter by fans to the point where he's seen as TheLoad, bordering on being TheScrappy due to his uselessness.
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* '''Deconstructed''': '''Deconstructed''':
** Bob's is seen so much as an ineffective fighter by fans to the point where he's seen as TheLoad, bordering on being TheScrappy due to his uselessness.
** Bob's is seen so much as an ineffective fighter by fans to the point where he's seen as TheLoad, bordering on being TheScrappy due to his uselessness.
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* '''Doubly Subverted''': ...Only to find that these so-called {{Hope Spot}}s only lead to disappointment.
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* '''Doubly '''Double Subverted''': ...Only to find that these so-called {{Hope Spot}}s only lead to disappointment.
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** Bob calls it quits as a result of his lack of success.
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'''Basic Trope''': A hero who never wins, thus neuters any tension that involves him.
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'''Basic Trope''': A hero who never wins, thus neuters any tension that involves him.
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** AntiSue AntiSue
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* '''Deconstructed''': Bob's is seen so much as an ineffective fighter by fans to the point where he's seen as TheLoad, bordering on being TheScrappy due to his uselessness.
* '''Reconstructed''': But fans come to respect him for, despite how predictable his fights are, [[{{Determinator}} trying to fight against opponents who he has no chance of winning]].
* '''Reconstructed''': But fans come to respect him for, despite how predictable his fights are, [[{{Determinator}} trying to fight against opponents who he has no chance of winning]].
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* '''Invoked''': "There is no way I can win. I'm not even gonna try."
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* '''Invoked''': "There is no way I can win. I'm not even gonna try."try".
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* '''Plotted A Perfectly Good Waste''': Bob constantly loses every fight he's in to the point where he's seen as [[ObfuscatingStupidity useless and not a threat in order for his enemies to lower their guard around him]]. Giving him the perfect opportunity to go all out on his enemies at their most vulnerable.
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* '''Deconstructed''': Bob's is seen so much as an ineffective fighter by fans to the point where he's seen as TheLoad, bordering on being TheScrappy due to his uselessness.
* '''Reconstructed''': But fans come to respect him for, despite how predictable his fights are, [[{{Determinator}} trying to fight against opponents who he has no chance of winning]].
* '''Plotted APerfectly Good Waste''': Bob constantly loses every fight he's in to the point where he's seen as [[ObfuscatingStupidity useless and not a threat in order for his enemies to lower their guard around him]]. Giving him the perfect opportunity to go all out on his enemies at their most vulnerable.
* '''Reconstructed''': But fans come to respect him for, despite how predictable his fights are, [[{{Determinator}} trying to fight against opponents who he has no chance of winning]].
* '''Plotted A
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* '''Exaggerated''': Bob's fights manages to put all who watch to sleep, as they wonder just how long before he gets his eventual asskicking.
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* '''Exaggerated''': '''Exaggerated''':
** Bob's fights manages to put all who watch to sleep, as they wonder just how long before he gets his eventual asskicking.
** Bob's fights manages to put all who watch to sleep, as they wonder just how long before he gets his eventual asskicking.
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* '''Exaggerated''': Bob's fights manages to put all who watch to sleep, as they wonder just how long before he gets his eventual asskicking.
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* '''Exaggerated''': Bob's fights manages to put all who watch to sleep, as they wonder just how long before he gets his eventual asskicking. asskicking.
** AntiSue
** AntiSue