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** Bob asks Jim to get Alice's wife and stand by the sidelines with a shotgun to her head and then tells Alice that if she so much as ''thinks'' of playing dirty, Jim will kill her as a "penalty".
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** The BigBad tries to exploit Alice's cynical underhanded nature by getting Alice's pragmatic tactics to horribly backfire on her.
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** The BigBad tries to exploit Alice's cynical underhanded nature by getting Alice's pragmatic tactics to horribly backfire on her. her (such as having the berserk werewolf that she shot in the head instead of using ThePowerOfLove to non-lethally dispel be her boyfriend).
** There are rules (spoken or not) to this "game", and the "penalty" for either side breaking them is severe. Alice thus gets to see her DoomedHometown destroyed because a lesson had to be given about what happens if someone "cheats".
** There are rules (spoken or not) to this "game", and the "penalty" for either side breaking them is severe. Alice thus gets to see her DoomedHometown destroyed because a lesson had to be given about what happens if someone "cheats".
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** Alice engages in a sword fight with Bob but during the fight, she grabs a rock from off the ground and smacks him with it to avoid being skewered.
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** Alice engages in a sword fight with Bob but during the fight, she grabs a rock from off the ground and smacks throws it at him with it to avoid being skewered.
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** Alice surprises Bob by pulling the gun on him bragging about how stupid he was for using a sword against a gun. But she is a lousy shot in which Bob easily dodges her blast and then slashes her down.
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** Alice surprises Bob by pulling the gun on him bragging about how stupid he was for using a sword against a gun. But [[ImperialStormtrooperMarksmanshipAcademy she is a lousy shot in which shot]], enabling Bob to easily dodges avoid her blast firing (Through NonchalantDodge nonetheless) and then slashes slash her down.
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* '''Defied''': Bob realizes Alice would likely pull a gun so he wore a bulletproof vest, forcing her to fight more fairly.
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* '''Defied''': '''Defied''':
** Bob realizes Alice would likely pull a gun so he wore a bulletproof vest, forcing her to fight morefairly.fairly.
** Alice for once brought a sword just like Bob did - under the knowledge that once she start ignoring the rules, others would follow suit, and she would have a difficult time dealing with other opponents in the long run.
** Bob realizes Alice would likely pull a gun so he wore a bulletproof vest, forcing her to fight more
** Alice for once brought a sword just like Bob did - under the knowledge that once she start ignoring the rules, others would follow suit, and she would have a difficult time dealing with other opponents in the long run.
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** Alice is normally alright with using underhanded tactics because her opponents are [[PayEvilUntoEvil normally scum]] anyways but is a bit hesistant when she is forced to fight a brainwashed ally.
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** Alice is normally alright with using underhanded tactics because her opponents are [[PayEvilUntoEvil normally scum]] anyways but is a bit hesistant hesitant when she is forced to fight a brainwashed ally.
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** Alice for once brought a sword just like Bob did - under the knowledge that once she start ignoring the rules, others would follow suit, and she would have a difficult time dealing with other opponents in the long run.
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** Bob is GenreSavvy enough to bring a gun of his own, knowing Alice would not be honorable enough to fight fair.
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** Bob is GenreSavvy smart enough to bring a gun of his own, knowing Alice would not be honorable enough to fight fair.
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'''Basic Trope''': The Combat Pragmatist is a character who is defined by his or her willingness to do anything in a fight to win.
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'''Basic Trope''': The Combat Pragmatist is a A character who is defined by his or her their willingness to do anything in a fight to win.
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** Alice bring a gun but misses her shot, since she never fought fair she never bothered training her aim or react if Bob moves too fast for her.
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** Alice is in a war and doesn't have time to fight with honor.
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** Bob challenges Alice's teammate, Charlie, to a one-on-one fist fight. While Alice initially stays out of the fight, Bob pulling out a knife prompts her to shoot him declaring that if he won't stick to the rules neither she will.
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** Bob challenges Alice's teammate, Charlie, to a one-on-one fist fight. While Alice initially stays out of the fight, Bob pulling out a knife prompts her to shoot him declaring that if he won't stick to the rules neither she will.will she.
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* '''Subverted''': Alice pulls her gun and tosses it aside in order to fight Bob fairly in a swordfight.
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* '''Subverted''': '''Subverted''':
** Alice pulls her gun and tosses it aside in order to fight Bob fairly in a swordfight.
** Alice pulls her gun and tosses it aside in order to fight Bob fairly in a swordfight.
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* '''Parodied''': Bob challenges Alice to "an honorable sword fight." She pulls a sword, then presses the trigger at the bottom of the sword's hilt, which fires a bullet out the end of the blade and kills him. "What, your sword doesn't shoot bullets?"
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* '''Parodied''': '''Parodied''':
** Bob challenges Alice to "an honorable sword fight." She pulls a sword, then presses the trigger at the bottom of the sword's hilt, which fires a bullet out the end of the blade and kills him. "What, your sword doesn't shoot bullets?"
** Bob challenges Alice to "an honorable sword fight." She pulls a sword, then presses the trigger at the bottom of the sword's hilt, which fires a bullet out the end of the blade and kills him. "What, your sword doesn't shoot bullets?"
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** Bob is the Villain and Alice is a firm believer in PayEvilUntoEvil
** Alice doesn't even use a sword and only has a gun so by her logic she was using the only weapon she had at the time.
** Alice doesn't even use a sword and only has a gun so by her logic she was using the only weapon she had at the time.
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** Alice is a GoodIsNotSoft heroine who does what she can against villains but is much more restrained when sparring with fellow heroes.
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** Alice surprises Bob by pulling the gun on him bragging about how stupid he was for using a sword against a gun. But she is a lousy shot in which Bob easily dodges her blast and then slashes her down.
** Alice: [[DefensiveWhat What?]] It was a fight nobody said it had to be a sword fight, not my fault he didn't bring a gun with him.
** Alice: Ha! You stupid wannabe Hero! Only a moron would bring a sword against a gunslinger like me! Bob: You do realize that I am practically bullet proof right? Alice: Oh... Heh heh, oh yeah I did forgot about that... [[OhCrap well this is awkward]].
** Alice: [[DefensiveWhat What?]] It was a fight nobody said it had to be a sword fight, not my fault he didn't bring a gun with him.
** Alice: Ha! You stupid wannabe Hero! Only a moron would bring a sword against a gunslinger like me! Bob: You do realize that I am practically bullet proof right? Alice: Oh... Heh heh, oh yeah I did forgot about that... [[OhCrap well this is awkward]].
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** Alice is normally alright with using underhanded tactics because her opponents are [[PayEvilUntoEvil normally scum]] anyways but is a bit hesistant when she is forced to fight a brainwashed ally.
** Alice shoots Bob down and claims herself victorious but was deemed the loser as she failed a SecretTestOfCharacter and was banished due to her underhanded ways.
** The BigBad tries to exploit Alice's cynical underhanded nature by getting Alice's pragmatic tactics to horribly backfire on her.
** Alice shoots Bob down and claims herself victorious but was deemed the loser as she failed a SecretTestOfCharacter and was banished due to her underhanded ways.
** The BigBad tries to exploit Alice's cynical underhanded nature by getting Alice's pragmatic tactics to horribly backfire on her.
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** A story that tries to give the Aesop that just because someone is not strict with their Moral Code that doesn't mean they have no morals at all, so in other words just because Alice doesn't follow a strict code does not mean she is evil.
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** Alice for once brought a sword just like Bob did - under the knowledge that once she start ignoring the rules, others would follow suit, and she would have a difficult time dealing with other opponents in the long run.
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** Bob challenges Alice's teammate Charlie to a one-on-one fist fight. While Alice initially stays out of the fight, Bob pulling out a knife prompts her to shoot him declaring that if he won't stick to the rules neither she will.
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** Bob challenges Alice's teammate Charlie teammate, Charlie, to a one-on-one fist fight. While Alice initially stays out of the fight, Bob pulling out a knife prompts her to shoot him declaring that if he won't stick to the rules neither she will.
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** Bob challegers Alice's teamate Charlie to a one on one fist fight, Whil Alice intally stays out of the fight, Bob pulling out a knife prompts her to shoot him declaring that if he wont stick to the rules why should she.
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** Bob challegers challenges Alice's teamate teammate Charlie to a one on one one-on-one fist fight, Whil fight. While Alice intally initially stays out of the fight, Bob pulling out a knife prompts her to shoot him declaring that if he wont won't stick to the rules why should she.neither she will.
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* '''Downplayed''': Alice engages in a sword fight with Bob but during the fight, she grabs a rock from off the ground and smacks him with it to avoid being skewered.
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* '''Downplayed''': '''Downplayed''':
** Alice engages in a sword fight with Bob but during the fight, she grabs a rock from off the ground and smacks him with it to avoid beingskewered.skewered.
** Bob challegers Alice's teamate Charlie to a one on one fist fight, Whil Alice intally stays out of the fight, Bob pulling out a knife prompts her to shoot him declaring that if he wont stick to the rules why should she.
** Alice engages in a sword fight with Bob but during the fight, she grabs a rock from off the ground and smacks him with it to avoid being
** Bob challegers Alice's teamate Charlie to a one on one fist fight, Whil Alice intally stays out of the fight, Bob pulling out a knife prompts her to shoot him declaring that if he wont stick to the rules why should she.
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* '''Exploited''': ???
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* '''Exploited''': ???Combat pragmatists are gathered in a spec-ops team send into dangerous missions where their pragmatic approach to fighting will give them the edge.
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** Alice's lack of standards while fighting means that, in the rare instance where she is defeated, Bob shows her no mercy because he does not expect it in turn.
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** Alice's way of fighting is seen as CherryTapping; she quickly gains a bad reputation as a weakling and/or DirtyCoward for not fighting with strength, skill, or honor.
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** Alice's way of fighting is seen as CherryTapping; [[TryingToCatchMeFightingDirty dirty]]; she quickly gains a bad reputation as a weakling and/or DirtyCoward for not fighting with strength, skill, or honor.
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* '''Reconstructed''': Alice counted on Bob bringing a gun, so she brought a grenade.
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* '''Reconstructed''': Alice '''Reconstructed''':
**Alice counted on Bob bringing a gun, so she brought agrenade.grenade.
**Alice doesn't care; she prefers whatever gets the job done.
**Alice counted on Bob bringing a gun, so she brought a
**Alice doesn't care; she prefers whatever gets the job done.
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* '''Deconstructed''': Bob is GenreSavvy enough to bring a gun of his own, knowing Alice would not be honorable enough to fight fair.
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* '''Deconstructed''': Bob '''Deconstructed''':
**Bob is GenreSavvy enough to bring a gun of his own, knowing Alice would not be honorable enough to fightfair.fair.
**Alice's way of fighting is seen as CherryTapping; she quickly gains a bad reputation as a weakling and/or DirtyCoward for not fighting with strength, skill, or honor.
**Bob is GenreSavvy enough to bring a gun of his own, knowing Alice would not be honorable enough to fight
**Alice's way of fighting is seen as CherryTapping; she quickly gains a bad reputation as a weakling and/or DirtyCoward for not fighting with strength, skill, or honor.
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* '''Zig Zagged''': ???
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* '''Zig Zagged''': ???Alice will fight fair until she's losing, then go for whatever dirty trick will put her on top. Then she'll fight fair again unless it's taking too long, at which point she'll use the necessary tactics to end the fight quickly.
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* '''Parodied''': Bob challenges Alice to "an honorable sword fight" and she immediately begins hair-pulling, eye gouging, biting,kicking below the belt, and otherwise fights dirty to beat him in seconds.
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* '''Parodied''': Bob challenges Alice to "an honorable sword fight" fight." She pulls a sword, then presses the trigger at the bottom of the sword's hilt, which fires a bullet out the end of the blade and she immediately begins hair-pulling, eye gouging, biting,kicking below the belt, and otherwise fights dirty to beat him in seconds.kills him. "What, your sword doesn't shoot bullets?"
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* '''Lampshaded''': "Why would I fight fair when I could just shoot you?"
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* '''Lampshaded''': '''Lampshaded''':
** "Why would I fight fair when I could just shoot you?"
** "Why would I fight fair when I could just shoot you?"
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** "Since when has being [[HonorBeforeReason a paragon of honor]] ever worked out for anyone?"
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** Only the crowd watching is to close, the bullet goes through Bob, hits a passerby and gets Alice arrested.
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**Only the crowd watching is to close, the bullet goes through Bob, hits a passerby and gets Alice arrested.
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* '''Invoked''': Alice brings a gun to the swordfight, knowing Bob would be too honorable to have one himself.
* '''Exploited''': The BigGood hired Alice to defeat Bob, knowing she'll be more likely to shoot him and get it over with, unlike more honorable heroes.
* '''Exploited''': The BigGood hired Alice to defeat Bob, knowing she'll be more likely to shoot him and get it over with, unlike more honorable heroes.
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* '''Invoked''': '''Invoked''':
** Alice brings a gun to theswordfight, sword fight, knowing Bob would be too honorable to have one himself.
* '''Exploited''': ** The BigGood hired Alice to defeat Bob, knowing she'll be more likely to shoot him and get it over with, unlike more honorable heroes.heroes.
* '''Exploited''': ???
** Alice brings a gun to the
* '''Exploited''': ???
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* '''Implied''': "Bring a sword to a swordfight if you must but I've always preferred bringing guns."
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* '''Implied''': "Bring a sword to a swordfight sword fight if you must but I've always preferred bringing guns."
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* '''Parodied''': Bob challenges Alice to "an honorable sword fight" and she immediately begins hair-pulling, eye gouging, biting,kicking below the belt, and otherwise fights dirty to beat him in seconds.
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* '''Parodied''': Bob challenges Alice to "an honorable swordfight" and she immediately begins hair-pulling, eye gouging, biting,kicking below the belt, and otherwise fights dirty to beat him in seconds.
* '''Averted''': Alice fights Bob in a fair swordfight.
* '''Averted''': Alice fights Bob in a fair swordfight.
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* '''Basic Trope''': The Combat Pragmatist is a character who is defined by his or her willingness to do anything in a fight to win.
* '''Straight''': Bob challenges Alice to a swordfight but she pulls out a gun instead and shoots him.
* '''Straight''': Bob challenges Alice to a swordfight but she pulls out a gun instead and shoots him.
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* '''Straight''': Bob challenges Alice to a
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* '''Downplayed''': Alice engages in a swordfight with Bob but during the fight, she grabs a rock from off the ground and smacks him with it to avoid being skewered.
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* '''Downplayed''': Alice engages in a swordfight sword fight with Bob but during the fight, she grabs a rock from off the ground and smacks him with it to avoid being skewered.
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** Alice needs to hurry for whatever reason and has no time to waste in a prolonged swordfight.
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** Alice needs to hurry for whatever reason and has no time to waste in a prolonged swordfight.sword fight.
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* '''Basic Trope''': The Combat Pragmatist is a character who is defined by his or her willingness to do anything in a fight to win.
* '''Straight''': Bob challenges Alice to a swordfight but she pulls out a gun instead and shoots him.
* '''Exaggerated''': Bob challenges Alice to a boxing match and she opts to blow up the entire gym with Bob inside it.
* '''Downplayed''': Alice engages in a swordfight with Bob but during the fight, she grabs a rock from off the ground and smacks him with it to avoid being skewered.
* '''Justified''':
** Alice needs to hurry for whatever reason and has no time to waste in a prolonged swordfight.
** Bob is a much better swordsman than Alice and she doesn't want to be killed.
** Alice already had a gun on hand so why not use it?
* '''Inverted''': Alice purposefully handicaps herself in the fight against Bob "to make it fair".
* '''Subverted''': Alice pulls her gun and tosses it aside in order to fight Bob fairly in a swordfight.
* '''Double Subverted''': During the fight, she gets knocked down and, seeing that she is about to be killed, grabs the gun and shoots Bob.
* '''Zig Zagged''': ???
* '''Parodied''': Bob challenges Alice to "an honorable swordfight" and she immediately begins hair-pulling, eye gouging, biting,kicking below the belt, and otherwise fights dirty to beat him in seconds.
* '''Averted''': Alice fights Bob in a fair swordfight.
* '''Enforced''': The writers want to show how pragmatic Alice is in a fight for character development and/or a little humor.
* '''Lampshaded''': "Why would I fight fair when I could just shoot you?"
* '''Invoked''': Alice brings a gun to the swordfight, knowing Bob would be too honorable to have one himself.
* '''Exploited''': The BigGood hired Alice to defeat Bob, knowing she'll be more likely to shoot him and get it over with, unlike more honorable heroes.
* '''Defied''': Bob realizes Alice would likely pull a gun so he wore a bulletproof vest, forcing her to fight more fairly.
* '''Discussed''': "Alice might not fight fair but at least she gets the job done."
* '''Conversed''': Two characters watch the scene play out in a movie and discuss how practical Alice is.
* '''Implied''': "Bring a sword to a swordfight if you must but I've always preferred bringing guns."
* '''Deconstructed''': Bob is GenreSavvy enough to bring a gun of his own, knowing Alice would not be honorable enough to fight fair.
* '''Reconstructed''': Alice counted on Bob bringing a gun, so she brought a grenade.
* '''Played For Laughs''': Bob pulls a sword and does a lot of {{flynning}}. Alice shrugs, pulls a gun, and shoots him.
* '''Played For Drama''': Bob tries to kill Alice with a knife and nearly succeeds. In desperation, Alice grabs a gun and opens fire.
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* '''Straight''': Bob challenges Alice to a swordfight but she pulls out a gun instead and shoots him.
* '''Exaggerated''': Bob challenges Alice to a boxing match and she opts to blow up the entire gym with Bob inside it.
* '''Downplayed''': Alice engages in a swordfight with Bob but during the fight, she grabs a rock from off the ground and smacks him with it to avoid being skewered.
* '''Justified''':
** Alice needs to hurry for whatever reason and has no time to waste in a prolonged swordfight.
** Bob is a much better swordsman than Alice and she doesn't want to be killed.
** Alice already had a gun on hand so why not use it?
* '''Inverted''': Alice purposefully handicaps herself in the fight against Bob "to make it fair".
* '''Subverted''': Alice pulls her gun and tosses it aside in order to fight Bob fairly in a swordfight.
* '''Double Subverted''': During the fight, she gets knocked down and, seeing that she is about to be killed, grabs the gun and shoots Bob.
* '''Zig Zagged''': ???
* '''Parodied''': Bob challenges Alice to "an honorable swordfight" and she immediately begins hair-pulling, eye gouging, biting,kicking below the belt, and otherwise fights dirty to beat him in seconds.
* '''Averted''': Alice fights Bob in a fair swordfight.
* '''Enforced''': The writers want to show how pragmatic Alice is in a fight for character development and/or a little humor.
* '''Lampshaded''': "Why would I fight fair when I could just shoot you?"
* '''Invoked''': Alice brings a gun to the swordfight, knowing Bob would be too honorable to have one himself.
* '''Exploited''': The BigGood hired Alice to defeat Bob, knowing she'll be more likely to shoot him and get it over with, unlike more honorable heroes.
* '''Defied''': Bob realizes Alice would likely pull a gun so he wore a bulletproof vest, forcing her to fight more fairly.
* '''Discussed''': "Alice might not fight fair but at least she gets the job done."
* '''Conversed''': Two characters watch the scene play out in a movie and discuss how practical Alice is.
* '''Implied''': "Bring a sword to a swordfight if you must but I've always preferred bringing guns."
* '''Deconstructed''': Bob is GenreSavvy enough to bring a gun of his own, knowing Alice would not be honorable enough to fight fair.
* '''Reconstructed''': Alice counted on Bob bringing a gun, so she brought a grenade.
* '''Played For Laughs''': Bob pulls a sword and does a lot of {{flynning}}. Alice shrugs, pulls a gun, and shoots him.
* '''Played For Drama''': Bob tries to kill Alice with a knife and nearly succeeds. In desperation, Alice grabs a gun and opens fire.
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