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** Being told that you're a worthless fighter because you don't know how to fight "correctly" because you can't throw a good punch (even if there's no way you could ''ever'' throw a good punch -- some people just don't have the body for it, and never will) while you are a lot better at throwing lasers is insulting no matter how the other guy tries to present it.
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* '''Averted''': Electro Man is UnskilledButStrong and completely relies on his raw, untrained power to win.
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** Electro Man is UnskilledButStrong and completely relies on his raw, untrained power towin.win.
** Electro Man's powers turn out to just ''look'' electrical but they instead run on a wholly different, Eldritch kind of energy and his knowledge of electrical engineering is worthless.
** Electro Man never thinks of seeking training in mundane knowledge that may augment his powers.
** Electro Man is UnskilledButStrong and completely relies on his raw, untrained power to
** Electro Man's powers turn out to just ''look'' electrical but they instead run on a wholly different, Eldritch kind of energy and his knowledge of electrical engineering is worthless.
** Electro Man never thinks of seeking training in mundane knowledge that may augment his powers.
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* '''Played For Horror''': Electro Man's doctorate in electric engineering makes him a PersonOfMassDestruction capable of single-handedly bringing civilization back to the Stone Age.
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** Imagination and education aren't mutually exclusive. Being educated in sufficiently weird scientific fields has given him entirely new ideas, and thus new ways to use an ImaginationBasedSuperpower, especially if his power already breaks rules of reality as he knew them and basically creates ''new'' rules.
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** Imagination and education logic aren't mutually exclusive. Being educated in sufficiently weird scientific fields has given him entirely new ideas, and thus new ways to use an ImaginationBasedSuperpower, especially if his power already breaks rules of reality as he knew them and basically creates ''new'' rules.
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This one comes across as a lecture rather than an example.
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** Imagination and logic aren't mutually exclusive. In fact, enough education in sufficiently weird scientific fields can give birth to entirely new ideas, and thus new ways to use an ImaginationBasedSuperpower, as long as it's wielder remembers that his power already breaks the rules of reality as he knew them and treats any new rules he learns as mere suggestions.
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** Imagination and logic education aren't mutually exclusive. In fact, enough education Being educated in sufficiently weird scientific fields can give birth to has given him entirely new ideas, and thus new ways to use an ImaginationBasedSuperpower, as long as it's wielder remembers that especially if his power already breaks the rules of reality as he knew them and treats any new rules he learns as mere suggestions.basically creates ''new'' rules.
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** Imagination and logic aren't mutually exclusive. In fact, enough education in sufficiently weird scientific fields can give birth to entirely new ideas, and thus new ways to use an ImaginationBasedSuperpower, as long as it's wielder remembers that his power already breaks the rules of reality as he knew them and treats any new rules he learns as mere suggestions.
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* '''Subverted''': As Electro Man learns more about how electricity actually works, he unfortunately finds that his earlier ability to shoot "Electro Bullets" was mostly thanks to AchievementsInIgnorance and now that he knows it should be impossible, he can't do it at all. Now hindered with technical knowledge of how electrons work, his imagination has been thoroughly inhibited and his abilities are near-useless.
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** As Electro Man learns more about how electricity actually works, he unfortunately finds that his earlier ability to shoot "Electro Bullets" was mostly thanks to AchievementsInIgnorance and now that he knows it should be impossible, he can't do it at all. Now hindered with technical knowledge of how electrons work, his imagination has been thoroughly inhibited and his abilities are near-useless.
** As Electro Man learns more about how electricity actually works, he unfortunately finds that his earlier ability to shoot "Electro Bullets" was mostly thanks to AchievementsInIgnorance and now that he knows it should be impossible, he can't do it at all. Now hindered with technical knowledge of how electrons work, his imagination has been thoroughly inhibited and his abilities are near-useless.
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** Magic Fist has the ability to generate contact based explosions and it turns out that applying mundane techniques of boxing is the wrong approach. Any power his physical strength contributes is negligible and trying to follow techniques based on mundane constraints just limits him. What he actually needs is an appropriate style for his powers.
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* '''Reconstructed''': After the SuperRegistrationAct forces Electro Man to become a killing machine, he learns additional things on his off-time, and eventually gains enough control over his ability to use them for other purposes besides violence and military applications.
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* '''Reconstructed''': '''Reconstructed''':
** After the SuperRegistrationAct forces Electro Man to become a killing machine, he learns additional things on his off-time, and eventually gains enough control over his ability to use them for other purposes besides violence and militaryapplications.applications.
** What Electro Man is able to learn from the Muggle Electric Engineers comes in handy in a future arc where he's BroughtDownToNormal and has to make do with a man-portable Tesla Coil of his own design. He's also some ideas of how to improve the electrical work (and thus other effects like energy efficiency) of that PoweredArmor the team has lying around...
** After the SuperRegistrationAct forces Electro Man to become a killing machine, he learns additional things on his off-time, and eventually gains enough control over his ability to use them for other purposes besides violence and military
** What Electro Man is able to learn from the Muggle Electric Engineers comes in handy in a future arc where he's BroughtDownToNormal and has to make do with a man-portable Tesla Coil of his own design. He's also some ideas of how to improve the electrical work (and thus other effects like energy efficiency) of that PoweredArmor the team has lying around...
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* '''Deconstructed''': The SuperRegistrationAct forces Electro Man to be trained by the government, but they only teach him abilties which are useful to ''them'' for the purposes of assassination or warfare. Electro Man becomes so efficient and powerful that he loses confidence in his abilities, because whenever he uses them, someone is sure to die.
* '''Reconstructed''': After the SuperRegistrationAct forces Electro man to become a killing machine, he learns additional things on his off-time, and eventually gains enough control over his ability to use them for other purposes besides violence and military applications.
* '''Reconstructed''': After the SuperRegistrationAct forces Electro man to become a killing machine, he learns additional things on his off-time, and eventually gains enough control over his ability to use them for other purposes besides violence and military applications.
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* '''Deconstructed''': '''Deconstructed''':
** The SuperRegistrationAct forces Electro Man to be trained by the government, but they only teach him abilties which are useful to ''them'' for the purposes of assassination or warfare. Electro Man becomes so efficient and powerful that he loses confidence in his abilities, because whenever he uses them, someone is sure to die.
** An ImaginationBasedSuperpower needs just that, '''imagination'''. Education means logic, which trumps wonder, which makes imagination die, which means a power that no longer works well, if it works at all.
** Just like AllTherapistsAreMuggles, this trope runs into a variation we can call "All Electric Engineers Are Muggles": the men who can teach Electro Man how electricity works may be pretty good at figuring out the best way to establish the wiring in a mechanical gadget, but when talking about a man who is able to summon enough energy from out of nowhere (or maybe ''somewhere'' within himself) to fuel an entire city and disperse it with a wave of a hand in shapes as absurd as "bullets", they don't really have a clue. Electro Man may learn some things which can come in handy for day-to-day safety, but in terms of actually trying to unlock his "true potential", he's barking up the wrong tree.
* '''Reconstructed''': After the SuperRegistrationAct forces Electroman Man to become a killing machine, he learns additional things on his off-time, and eventually gains enough control over his ability to use them for other purposes besides violence and military applications.
** The SuperRegistrationAct forces Electro Man to be trained by the government, but they only teach him abilties which are useful to ''them'' for the purposes of assassination or warfare. Electro Man becomes so efficient and powerful that he loses confidence in his abilities, because whenever he uses them, someone is sure to die.
** An ImaginationBasedSuperpower needs just that, '''imagination'''. Education means logic, which trumps wonder, which makes imagination die, which means a power that no longer works well, if it works at all.
** Just like AllTherapistsAreMuggles, this trope runs into a variation we can call "All Electric Engineers Are Muggles": the men who can teach Electro Man how electricity works may be pretty good at figuring out the best way to establish the wiring in a mechanical gadget, but when talking about a man who is able to summon enough energy from out of nowhere (or maybe ''somewhere'' within himself) to fuel an entire city and disperse it with a wave of a hand in shapes as absurd as "bullets", they don't really have a clue. Electro Man may learn some things which can come in handy for day-to-day safety, but in terms of actually trying to unlock his "true potential", he's barking up the wrong tree.
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** Electro Man has an ImaginationBasedSuperpower that allows him to do virtually everything... but after getting the crap kicked out of him by the MonsterOfTheWeek every time he tries to do something clever, Electro Man decides "to hell with it" and goes full-on TimTaylorTechnology with the power, just plain bitch-slapping the hell out of the threat with the BiggerStick that this creates.
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* '''Implied''': Electro-Man's dossier shows that he has a Masters in Electric Engineering.
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** Although Electro man's super powers are amazing, he always took them for granted as being powerful, and never before considered that he could learn about the mundane parts of his power to improve the fantastic parts.
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** Although Electro man's Man's super powers are amazing, he always took them for granted as being powerful, and never before considered that he could learn about the mundane parts of his power to improve the fantastic parts.parts.
** Electro Man meets the villainous Megacoulomb, [[EvilCounterpart who has the exact same abilities as Electro Man]] but is DumbMuscle. In response, Electro Man studies how electricity works to figure out ways to outsmart him
** Electro Man meets the villainous Megacoulomb, [[EvilCounterpart who has the exact same abilities as Electro Man]] but is DumbMuscle. In response, Electro Man studies how electricity works to figure out ways to outsmart him
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** A meteorologist gains WeatherManipulation and becomes reliant on them, causing his forecasting skills to falter.
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* '''Exploited''': ???Electro-Man discovers entirely new abilities through his study that most people don't actually know about, adding a useful technique ''and'' the element of surprise to his repertoire.
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* '''Parodied''': Electro Man goes to Electro School, where he learns how to make "Electro Planes", eat "Electro Ice Cream" and seduce hot "Electro Women".
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** Electro Man goes to Electro School, where he learns how to make "Electro Planes", eat "Electro Ice Cream" and seduce hot "ElectroWomen".Women".
** Electro Man's mentor teaching him to use his powers the smart way is [[HistoricalHilarity no one else than the]] [[OurGhostsAreDifferent Electro-Ghost of]] UsefulNotes/NikolaTesla.
** Electro Man goes to Electro School, where he learns how to make "Electro Planes", eat "Electro Ice Cream" and seduce hot "Electro
** Electro Man's mentor teaching him to use his powers the smart way is [[HistoricalHilarity no one else than the]] [[OurGhostsAreDifferent Electro-Ghost of]] UsefulNotes/NikolaTesla.
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* '''Enforced''': Parents complain that Electro Man is a poor role-model for children because he uses his dangerous abilities recklessly. The executives relent and ham-fist a storyarc about him going to school to learn.
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* '''Enforced''': '''Enforced''':
** Parents complain that Electro Man is a poor role-model for children because he uses his dangerous abilities recklessly. The executives relent and ham-fist astoryarc story arc about him going to school to learn.learn.
** The comic's artist [[WriteWhatYouKnow has a Ph.D in Electrical Engineering]], and the writer is tired of superheroes [[TheAllSolvingHammer using their superpowers solely to beat things up]] - so when they start working with the Electro Man comic, the results are obvious.
** Parents complain that Electro Man is a poor role-model for children because he uses his dangerous abilities recklessly. The executives relent and ham-fist a
** The comic's artist [[WriteWhatYouKnow has a Ph.D in Electrical Engineering]], and the writer is tired of superheroes [[TheAllSolvingHammer using their superpowers solely to beat things up]] - so when they start working with the Electro Man comic, the results are obvious.
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* '''Invoked''': Another super with powers similar to Electro Man shows up and dishes out a CurbStompBattle against the hero because he knows a thing or two about how electricity works. He then offers to train Electro Man to be more effective.
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** Another super with powers similar to Electro Man shows up and dishes out a CurbStompBattle against the hero because he knows a thing or two about how electricity works. He then offers to train Electro Man to be moreeffective.effective.
** The BigGood forces Electro-Man to take lessons in order to harness his powers properly.
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** Another super with powers similar to Electro Man shows up and dishes out a CurbStompBattle against the hero because he knows a thing or two about how electricity works. He then offers to train Electro Man to be more
** The BigGood forces Electro-Man to take lessons in order to harness his powers properly.
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* '''Justified''': Possessing superpowers is [[ComesGreatResponsibility a major responsibility]] that our hero takes seriously, so this knowledge will help keep himself and others safe and benefit the world as a whole.
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* '''Justified''': '''Justified''':
** Possessing superpowers is [[ComesGreatResponsibility a major responsibility]] that our hero takes seriously, so this knowledge will help keep himself and others safe and benefit the world as a whole.
** Possessing superpowers is [[ComesGreatResponsibility a major responsibility]] that our hero takes seriously, so this knowledge will help keep himself and others safe and benefit the world as a whole.
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** After delving into some WeirdScience, an [[BadassNormal ordinary guy]] becomes [[BadassAbnormal Electro Man]] based on some [[ShownTheirWork pretty plausible technology]].
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* '''Exaggerated''': Electro Man finds "The Big Book Of All The Cool Crap You Can Do With Electrical Powers" and, upon completing it, effectively becomes a RealityWarper.
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* '''Exaggerated''': Electro Man finds "The Big Book Of [[LightningCanDoAnything All The Cool Crap You Can Do With Electrical Powers" Powers]]" and, upon completing it, effectively becomes a RealityWarper.
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* '''Reconstructed''': The SuperRegistrationAct forces Electro man to become a killing machine, but thanks to the normal classes in his off time, or internet research, he eventually gains enough control over his ability to be able to refuse the government, as well as becoming more effective in learning so.
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* '''Reconstructed''': The After the SuperRegistrationAct forces Electro man to become a killing machine, but thanks to the normal classes in he learns additional things on his off time, or internet research, he off-time, and eventually gains enough control over his ability to be able to refuse the government, as well as becoming more effective in learning so.use them for other purposes besides violence and military applications.
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* '''Reconstructed''': ...But when he's released from service, he learns new lessons on how to use his abilities in more practical, peaceful ways.
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* '''Reconstructed''': ...But when he's released from service, he learns new lessons on how '''Reconstructed''': The SuperRegistrationAct forces Electro man to use become a killing machine, but thanks to the normal classes in his abilities in off time, or internet research, he eventually gains enough control over his ability to be able to refuse the government, as well as becoming more practical, peaceful ways.effective in learning so.
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** Although Electro man's super powers are amazing, he always took them for granted as being powerful, and never before considered that he could learn about the mundane parts of his power to improve the fantastic parts.
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* '''Downplayed''': ???Electro man takes classes on electricity. Although, because of the nature of his powers, he can't improve their effectiveness, he does learn how to work with what he can do better.
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* '''Exploited''': FanFic/HarryPotterAndTheMethodsOfRationality.
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* '''Exploited''': FanFic/HarryPotterAndTheMethodsOfRationality.???
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* '''Exploited''': Literature/HarryPotterAndTheMethodsOfRationality.FanFic/HarryPotterAndTheMethodsOfRationality.
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* '''Justified''': Possessing superpowers is a [[ComesGreatResponsibility a major responsibility]] that our hero takes seriously, so this knowledge will help keep himself and others safe and benefit the world as a whole.
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* '''Subverted''': As Electro Man learns more about how electricity actually works, he unfortunately finds that his earlier ability to shoot "Electro Bullets" was mostly thanks to AchievementsInIgnorance and now that he knows it should be impossible, he can't do it at all. Now hindered with technical knowledge of how electrons work, his imagination has been thoroughly inhibited and his abilities are near-useless.
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* '''Subverted''': As Electro Man learns more about how electricity actually works, he unfortunately finds that his earlier ability to shoot "Electro Bullets" was mostly thanks to AchievementsInIgnorance and now that he knows it should be impossible, he can't do it at all. Now hindered with technical knowledge of how electrons work, his imagination has been thoroughly inhibited and his abilities are near-useless.
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* '''Deconstructed''': The SuperRegistrationAct forces Electro Man to be trained by the government, but they only teach him abilties which are useful to ''them'' for the purposes of assassination or warfare. Electro Man becomes so efficient and powerful that he loses confidence in his abilities, because whenever he uses them, someone is sure to die.
* '''Reconstructed''': ...But when he's released from service, he learns new lessons on how to use his abilities in more practical, peaceful ways.
* '''Reconstructed''': ...But when he's released from service, he learns new lessons on how to use his abilities in more practical, peaceful ways.
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* '''Reconstructed''': ...But when he's released from service, he learns new lessons on how to use his abilities in more practical, peaceful ways.
* '''Reconstructed''': ...But when he's released from service, he learns new lessons on how to use his abilities in more practical, peaceful ways.
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** Conversely, he somehow [[CharlesAtlasSuperpower acquires these powers]] through [[TrainingFromHell ridiculous amounts of physical training]].
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** Conversely, he somehow [[CharlesAtlasSuperpower acquires these powers]] through [[TrainingFromHell ridiculous amounts of physical training]].Someone becomes much more schooled in a scientific discipline due to experience with a related superpower.
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** After delving into some WeirdScience, an [[BadassNormal ordinary guy]] becomes [[BadassAbnormal Electro Man]] based on some [[ShownTheirWork pretty plausible technology]].
** After delving into some WeirdScience, an [[BadassNormal ordinary guy]] becomes [[BadassAbnormal Electro Man]] based on some [[ShownTheirWork pretty plausible technology]].