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* '''Averted''': Bob hires an actual attorney (not related to or friends with him in any way) to represent him in court.
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** No trials or other legal proceedings take place in the work.
** Bob hires an actual attorney (not related to or friends with him in any way) to represent him in
** No trials or other legal proceedings take place in the work.
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* '''Defied''': Bob accepts the court-appointed lawyer.
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* '''Defied''': '''Defied''':
** Bob accepts the court-appointedlawyer. lawyer.
** The court denies Bob's request to represent himself, forcing him to either hire an attorney or accept the court-appointed lawyer.
** Bob accepts the court-appointed
** The court denies Bob's request to represent himself, forcing him to either hire an attorney or accept the court-appointed lawyer.
* '''Implied''': The trial isn't shown, as the camera cuts to other events right before it begins, but Bob is shown alone at the defense table, so it can be surmised that he will represent himself.
** The judge proves to be a ReasonableAuthorityFigure who ensures that Bob is taken seriously whenever he makes valid points, and advises him within reason of being impartial so he understands what resources and limitations he has for arguing his case.
** Both parties in a lawsuit represent themselves because ItsPersonal. The case is the culmination of a series of quarrels between both sides, and their choice to personally face off in court instead of hiring attorneys shows just how much they hate each other's guts.
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** Bob ''prosecutes'' himself.
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** Bob doesn't trust ''any'' [[AcceptableProfessionalTargets lawyers]].
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** Bob doesn't trust ''any'' [[AcceptableProfessionalTargets [[EvilLawyerJoke lawyers]].
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* '''Downplayed''': AliceAndBob are getting a divorce, but it's a pretty [[AmicableExes amicable one]], so they decide to negotiate the terms of their divorce without hiring an attorney or going through court.
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* '''Downplayed''': '''Downplayed''':
** AliceAndBob are getting a divorce, but it's a pretty [[AmicableExes amicable one]], so they decide to negotiate the terms of their divorce without hiring an attorney or going throughcourt. court.
** Bob has attorneys, but counts himself as part of his legal team, and actively participates in the trial.
** AliceAndBob are getting a divorce, but it's a pretty [[AmicableExes amicable one]], so they decide to negotiate the terms of their divorce without hiring an attorney or going through
** Bob has attorneys, but counts himself as part of his legal team, and actively participates in the trial.
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** Bob actually ''is'' a lawyer. Especially if he has legal expertise relevant to the case at hand.
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** Bob actually ''is'' is a lawyer. Especially if he lawyer who has legal expertise relevant to the case at hand.
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* '''Subverted''':
** Bob actually ''is'' a lawyer, not some KnowNothingKnowItAll from EverytownAmerica.
** Bob eventually changes his mind and agrees to go with the court-appointed attorney.
** Bob consults with an attorney.
* '''Double Subverted''':
** The jury still convicts him of his crimes.
** Bob may be a lawyer, but he's not the right kind of lawyer.
** Bob decides he doesn't like the attorney, and represents himself.
** He asks his best friend Charles, who is still in law school.
** Ultimately, though, he's on his own. The attorney just gave advice.
** Bob actually ''is'' a lawyer, not some KnowNothingKnowItAll from EverytownAmerica.
** Bob eventually changes his mind and agrees to go with the court-appointed attorney.
** Bob consults with an attorney.
* '''Double Subverted''':
** The jury still convicts him of his crimes.
** Bob may be a lawyer, but he's not the right kind of lawyer.
** Bob decides he doesn't like the attorney, and represents himself.
** He asks his best friend Charles, who is still in law school.
** Ultimately, though, he's on his own. The attorney just gave advice.
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* '''Subverted''':
**'''Subverted''': Bob actually ''is'' a lawyer, not some KnowNothingKnowItAll from EverytownAmerica.is sitting alone at the defense table, when an attorney walks in and apologizes for being late.
** Bob eventually changes his mind and agrees to go with the court-appointed attorney.
** Bob consults with an attorney.
* '''Double Subverted''':
**Subverted''': The jury still convicts him of his crimes.
** Bob may be a lawyer, but he's notJudge then admonishes the right kind of lawyer.
** Bob decides he doesn't like the attorney, and represents himself.
** He asks his best friend Charles, who is still in law school.
** Ultimately, though, he's on his own. Theattorney just gave advice.for stepping into the wrong courtroom.
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** Bob consults with an attorney.
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** Bob may be a lawyer, but he's not
** Bob decides he doesn't like the attorney, and represents himself.
** He asks his best friend Charles, who is still in law school.
** Ultimately, though, he's on his own. The
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* '''Zig Zagged''': Bob just can't decide whether he wants to represent himself on court or have his lawyer do it during the trial.
* '''Averted''':
** Bob hires an actual attorney (not related to or friends with him in any way) to represent him in court.
** Bob is not charged with any crime or civil complaint in the first place.
* '''Averted''':
** Bob hires an actual attorney (not related to or friends with him in any way) to represent him in court.
** Bob is not charged with any crime or civil complaint in the first place.
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** Bob just can't decide whether he wants to represent himself on court or have his lawyer do it during the trial.
* '''Averted''':
** After Bob sues Alice, he goes through multiple attorneys during the pre-trial phrase, sometimes writing legal motions all by himself.
* '''Averted''': Bob hires an actual attorney (not related to or friends with him in any way) to represent him incourt.
** Bob is not charged with any crime or civil complaint in the first place.court.
** Bob just can't decide whether he wants to represent himself on court or have his lawyer do it during the trial.
* '''Averted''': Bob hires an actual attorney (not related to or friends with him in any way) to represent him in
** Bob is not charged with any crime or civil complaint in the first place.
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** Bob hires a lawyer.
** Due to the vastly differing social norms, hiring a lawyer to represent yourself in court unless not legally competent in the first place is considered [[WhatAnIdiot incredibly dumb]].
** Due to the vastly differing social norms, hiring a lawyer to represent yourself in court unless not legally competent in the first place is considered [[WhatAnIdiot incredibly dumb]].
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** Bob hires a lawyer.
lawyer to give a speech that Bob himself was supposed to give.
** Due to the vastly differing social norms, hiring a lawyer to represent yourself in court unless not legally competent in the first place is considered[[WhatAnIdiot incredibly dumb]].dumb.
** Due to the vastly differing social norms, hiring a lawyer to represent yourself in court unless not legally competent in the first place is considered
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** Due to the vastly differing social norms hiring a lawyer to represent yourself in court unless not legally competent in the first place is considered [[WhatAnIdiot incredibly dumb]].
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** Due to the vastly differing social norms norms, hiring a lawyer to represent yourself in court unless not legally competent in the first place is considered [[WhatAnIdiot incredibly dumb]].
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* '''Deconstructed''': Bob's incompetence loses him the case.
* '''Reconstructed''': Because he was guilty. The innocent Alice tries this and wins her case.
* '''Reconstructed''': Because he was guilty. The innocent Alice tries this and wins her case.
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* '''Deconstructed''': '''Deconstructed''':
** Bob's incompetence loses him the case.
** Bob argues his case reasonably well, but [[AdHominem is not taken seriously because he is not a legal professional]].
** Bob fails to defend himself in court, because the legal system is such a [[VastBureaucracy bureaucratic nightmare]] that only a professional who spent decades studying it can possibly understand and navigate any of it.
*'''Reconstructed''': Because '''Reconstructed''':
** Bob only lost because he was guilty. The innocent Alice tries this and wins her case.
** Bob's incompetence loses him the case.
** Bob argues his case reasonably well, but [[AdHominem is not taken seriously because he is not a legal professional]].
** Bob fails to defend himself in court, because the legal system is such a [[VastBureaucracy bureaucratic nightmare]] that only a professional who spent decades studying it can possibly understand and navigate any of it.
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** Bob only lost because he was guilty. The innocent Alice tries this and wins her case.
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* '''Played For Drama''': Bob's representation of himself just shows how his [[SanitySlippage growing martyr complex]] is getting out of control and will end only in suffering.
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* '''Played For Drama''': Drama''':
** Bob's representation of himself just shows how his [[SanitySlippage growing martyr complex]] is getting out of control and will end only insuffering.suffering.
** The court-appointed attorney Bob is given is blatantly on the real killer's payroll and intends to throw the case. Bob representing himself is treated as a move of absolute desperation, signifying how screwed he is.
** Bob's representation of himself just shows how his [[SanitySlippage growing martyr complex]] is getting out of control and will end only in
** The court-appointed attorney Bob is given is blatantly on the real killer's payroll and intends to throw the case. Bob representing himself is treated as a move of absolute desperation, signifying how screwed he is.
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* '''Inverted''': Bob hires a lawyer.
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* '''Inverted''': '''Inverted''':
** Bob hires a lawyer.
** Bob hires a lawyer.
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* '''Played For Laughs''': Bob acts like a pastiche of courtroom antics to the exasperation of everyone. Despite getting held for contempt several times he is acquitted - when even a first year law student could have had it dismissed by pointing out the statue of limitations expired.
* '''Played For Drama''': Bob's representation of himself just shows how his [[SanitySlippage growing martyr complex]] is getting out of control and will end only in suffering.
* '''Played For Drama''': Bob's representation of himself just shows how his [[SanitySlippage growing martyr complex]] is getting out of control and will end only in suffering.
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* '''Reconstructed''': Because he was guilty. The innocent Alice tries this and wins her case.
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** Bob doesn't trust lawyers in general.
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** Bob agrees to go with the court-appointed attorney.
** Bob doesn't represent himself
** Bob doesn't represent himself
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** Bob eventually changes his mind and agrees to go with the court-appointed attorney.
** Bob doesn't represent himselfattorney.
** Bob doesn't represent himself
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** Bob lives in a PeoplesRepublicOfTyranny. As he's been deemed an enemy of the state, the KangarooCourt won't even let him have an attorney.
* '''Deconstructed''': Bob's incompetence loses him the case.
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** Bob is poor, and can't afford an attorney. He doesn't like the one the court picked out, or doesn't trust one he didn't even choose.
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** The country Bob is poor, and faces charges in has no provision for a court-appointed attorney if the defendant can't afford an attorney. He to hire one. This applies to Bob.
** Bob doesn't like theone attorney the court picked out, or doesn't trust one he didn't even choose.
** Bob doesn't like the
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** Bob files a FrivolousLawsuit. It's so ridiculous that no lawyer wants to touch it.
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** Bob is overconfident and stupid.
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* '''Lampshaded''': "I'd like to represent myself, Your Honor."
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'''Judge:''' Are you sure about that?
--> '''Bob:''' I'd like to represent myself, Your Honor.
'''Judge:''' Are you sure about that?
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* '''Discussed''': ???
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* '''Discussed''': ???"I hope you're not thinking about representing yourself, Bob."
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* '''Zig Zagged''': Bob just can't decide whether he wants to represent himself on court or have his lawyer do it during the trial. He keeps telling him to go away and then calling him back later.
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* '''Zig Zagged''': Bob just can't decide whether he wants to represent himself on court or have his lawyer do it during the trial. He keeps telling him to go away and then calling him back later.
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* '''Zig Zagged''': ???Bob just can't decide whether he wants to represent himself on court or have his lawyer do it during the trial. He keeps telling him to go away and then calling him back later.
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** Bob actually ''is'' a lawyer.
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** Bob actually ''is'' a lawyer. Especially if he has legal expertise relevant to the case at hand.
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** Bob may be a lawyer, but he's not the right kind of lawyer.
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* '''Basic Trope''': A character represents himself/herself in court.
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* '''Justified''': Bob is poor, and can't afford an attorney. He doesn't like the one the court picked out, or doesn't trust one he didn't even choose.
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* '''Justified''': '''Justified''':
** Bob is poor, and can't afford an attorney. He doesn't like the one the court picked out, or doesn't trust one he didn't even choose.
** Bob is poor, and can't afford an attorney. He doesn't like the one the court picked out, or doesn't trust one he didn't even choose.
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* '''Subverted''': Bob actually ''is'' a lawyer, not some KnowNothingKnowItAll from EverytownAmerica.
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* '''Subverted''': '''Subverted''':
** Bob actually ''is'' a lawyer, not some KnowNothingKnowItAll from EverytownAmerica.
** Bob actually ''is'' a lawyer, not some KnowNothingKnowItAll from EverytownAmerica.
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* '''Double Subverted''': The jury still convicts him of his crimes.
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* '''Double Subverted''': Subverted''':
** The jury still convicts him of his crimes.
** The jury still convicts him of his crimes.
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* '''Parodied''': Bob ends up running a law firm out of his garage, despite never having actually been to law school.
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* '''Parodied''': '''Parodied''':
** Bob ends up running a law firm out of his garage, despite never having actually been to law school.
** Bob ends up running a law firm out of his garage, despite never having actually been to law school.
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* '''Averted''': Bob hires an actual attorney (not related to or friends with him in any way) to represent him in court.
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* '''Averted''': '''Averted''':
** Bob hires an actual attorney (not related to or friends with him in any way) to represent him in court.
** Bob hires an actual attorney (not related to or friends with him in any way) to represent him in court.
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* '''Conversed''': "Representing yourself: yes, you can, but no you shouldn't."
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* '''Conversed''': "Representing yourself: yes, you can, but no you shouldn't.""
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* '''Subverted''': Bob actually ''is'' a lawyer, not some NoNothingKnowItAll from EverytownAmerica.
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* '''Subverted''': Bob actually ''is'' a lawyer, not some NoNothingKnowItAll KnowNothingKnowItAll from EverytownAmerica.
** Bob consults with an attorney.
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** Ultimately, though, he's on his own. The attorney just gave advice.
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** Bob acts as the jury and judge, too. Bizarrely enough, he ''still'' gets convicted.
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*'''Averted''': Bob hires an actual attorney (not related to or friends with him in any way) to represent him in court.
** Bob is not charged with any crime or civil complaint in the first place.
*'''Enforced''': HollywoodLaw
*'''Lampshaded''': "I'd like to represent myself, Your Honor."
*'''Invoked''': Bob doesn't like the lawyer the court chose because he feels that [[HelloAttorney she's too sexy to be taken seriously.]]
*'''Exploited''': Bob is hoping the jury and/or judge will go easier on him, being that he's doing this all himself and knows nothing about law.
*'''Defied''': Bob accepts the court-appointed lawyer.
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*'''Conversed''': "Representing yourself: yes, you can, but no you shouldn't."
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** Bob acts as the jury and judge, too. Bizarrely enough, he ''still'' gets convicted.
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*'''Averted''': Bob hires an actual attorney (not related to or friends with him in any way) to represent him in court.
** Bob is not charged with any crime or civil complaint in the first place.
*'''Enforced''': HollywoodLaw
*'''Lampshaded''': "I'd like to represent myself, Your Honor."
*'''Invoked''': Bob doesn't like the lawyer the court chose because he feels that [[HelloAttorney she's too sexy to be taken seriously.]]
*'''Exploited''': Bob is hoping the jury and/or judge will go easier on him, being that he's doing this all himself and knows nothing about law.
*'''Defied''': Bob accepts the court-appointed lawyer.
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*'''Conversed''': "Representing yourself: yes, you can, but no you shouldn't."
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*'''Straight''': Bob is charged with ArsonMurderAndJaywalking. He can't afford an attorney, but refuses the one the court appointed for him, and represents himself.
*'''Exaggerated''': Bob not only wins the case, but decides to [[BackToSchool go to law school afterwards]].
*'''Downplayed''': AliceAndBob are getting a divorce, but it's a pretty [[AmicableExes amicable one]], so they decide to negotiate the terms of their divorce without hiring an attorney or going through court.
*'''Justified''': Bob is poor, and can't afford an attorney. He doesn't like the one the court picked out, or doesn't trust one he didn't even choose.
** Bob doesn't trust lawyers in general.
** Bob actually ''is'' a lawyer.
** Bob doesn't trust ''any'' [[AcceptableProfessionalTargets lawyers]].
** It's a civil case, and Bob is settling out of court.
** AliceAndBob are going through an amicable divorce, and they are able to divide up their assets, debts, children, and pets fairly ''without'' having a DivorceAssetsConflict or hiring attorneys.
** The country Bob faces charges in has no provision for a court-appointed attorney if the defendant can't afford to hire one.
*'''Inverted''': Bob hires a lawyer.
*'''Subverted''': Bob actually ''is'' a lawyer, not some NoNothingKnowItAll from EverytownAmerica.
** Bob agrees to go with the court-appointed attorney.
** Bob doesn't represent himself
*'''Double Subverted''': The jury still convicts him of his crimes.
** Bob decides he doesn't like the attorney, and represents himself.
** He asks his best friend Charles, who is still in law school.
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*'''Straight''': Bob is charged with ArsonMurderAndJaywalking. He can't afford an attorney, but refuses the one the court appointed for him, and represents himself.
*'''Exaggerated''': Bob not only wins the case, but decides to [[BackToSchool go to law school afterwards]].
*'''Downplayed''': AliceAndBob are getting a divorce, but it's a pretty [[AmicableExes amicable one]], so they decide to negotiate the terms of their divorce without hiring an attorney or going through court.
*'''Justified''': Bob is poor, and can't afford an attorney. He doesn't like the one the court picked out, or doesn't trust one he didn't even choose.
** Bob doesn't trust lawyers in general.
** Bob actually ''is'' a lawyer.
** Bob doesn't trust ''any'' [[AcceptableProfessionalTargets lawyers]].
** It's a civil case, and Bob is settling out of court.
** AliceAndBob are going through an amicable divorce, and they are able to divide up their assets, debts, children, and pets fairly ''without'' having a DivorceAssetsConflict or hiring attorneys.
** The country Bob faces charges in has no provision for a court-appointed attorney if the defendant can't afford to hire one.
*'''Inverted''': Bob hires a lawyer.
*'''Subverted''': Bob actually ''is'' a lawyer, not some NoNothingKnowItAll from EverytownAmerica.
** Bob agrees to go with the court-appointed attorney.
** Bob doesn't represent himself
*'''Double Subverted''': The jury still convicts him of his crimes.
** Bob decides he doesn't like the attorney, and represents himself.
** He asks his best friend Charles, who is still in law school.
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