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* When ''TheSimpsons'' first aired, some viewers believed certain lines popularized by Bart to have been invented by the show's creators. These include Bart's replacing the words of "Jingle Bells" ("... Batman smells, Robin laid an egg...") in the first episode; "Eat my shorts", first said in ''TheBreakfastClub'' (1985) ; and "Cowabunga, dude!", a surfer slang expression, which had already been popularized on television by ''[[WesternAnimation/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles1987 Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles]]''.

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* When ''TheSimpsons'' first aired, some viewers believed certain lines popularized by Bart to have been invented by the show's creators. These include Bart's replacing the words of "Jingle Bells" ("... Batman smells, Robin laid an egg...") in the first episode; episode and "Eat my shorts", first said in ''TheBreakfastClub'' (1985) ; and "Cowabunga, dude!", a surfer slang expression, which had already been popularized on television by ''[[WesternAnimation/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles1987 Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles]]''.(1985).



** And the crazy paranoid Adam West in {{FamilyGuy}} made his first appearance in an episode of {{JohnnyBravo}}.

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** And the crazy paranoid Adam West in {{FamilyGuy}} made his first appearance in an episode of {{JohnnyBravo}}.{{JohnnyBravo}}.
* The expression "Cowabunga!" did NOT originate on ''TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles''. It was originally used on ''TheHowdyDoodyShow''.
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* The American ''{{Darkstalkers}}'' cartoon featured a bespectacled boy named Harry Grimoire who was studying magic (and happened to have Felicia as a "pet"). This would've been an obvious rip of ''HarryPotter'', if not for the fact that the cartoon came out some years before.

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* The American ''{{Darkstalkers}}'' ''VideoGame/{{Darkstalkers}}'' cartoon featured a bespectacled boy named Harry Grimoire who was studying magic (and happened to have Felicia as a "pet"). This would've been an obvious rip of ''HarryPotter'', if not for the fact that the cartoon came out some years before.
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* AdamWest as Catman is a parody of Series/{{Batman}} in ''FairlyOddParents''. However, there actually is a Catman which is a Batman villain created in the 60s.

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* AdamWest as Catman is a parody of Series/{{Batman}} in ''FairlyOddParents''. However, there actually is a Catman which is a Batman villain created in the 60s.60s.
** And the crazy paranoid Adam West in {{FamilyGuy}} made his first appearance in an episode of {{JohnnyBravo}}.
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*** Of course, it you think that is OlderThanTheyThink, you need to take a closer look at the title of episode 7G03 from the first season, ''[[IncrediblyLamePun Homer's]] [[TheOdyssey Odyssey]]''.

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*** Of course, it you think that is OlderThanTheyThink, you need to take a closer look at the title of episode 7G03 from the first season, ''[[IncrediblyLamePun Homer's]] [[TheOdyssey [[Literature/TheOdyssey Odyssey]]''.
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**** CrocodileDundee referred to the black limo driver as a 'black fella' in the first movie and clearly isn't differentiating him from Australian Aboriginals in this.

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** In fact, HannaBarbera produced both cartoons. Originally, He-Man was based off ''ConanTheBarbarian'' but they opted to essentially turn the character into "the new Thundarr".
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* Now and then someone will accuse ThundarrTheBarbarian of being a ripoff of {{He-Man And The Masters Of The Universe}}, despite the fact that Thundarr predates He-Man by several years.
* To this day, there are still fans of the TeenTitans cartoon who are surprised when they find out the cartoon was preceded by the Comicbook/TeenTitans comic book by ''forty one years''. Heck, the fact that the TVTropes page for the cartoon was added to this wiki before the page for the comic book series should tell you something...

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* Now and then someone will accuse ThundarrTheBarbarian ''ThundarrTheBarbarian'' of being a ripoff of {{He-Man And The Masters Of The Universe}}, ''HeManAndTheMastersOfTheUniverse'', despite the fact that Thundarr ''Thundarr'' predates He-Man ''He-Man'' by several years.
* To this day, there are still fans of the TeenTitans ''WesternAnimation/TeenTitans'' cartoon who are surprised when they find out the cartoon was preceded by the Comicbook/TeenTitans ''Comicbook/TeenTitans'' comic book by ''forty one ''41 years''. Heck, the fact that the TVTropes page for the cartoon was added to this wiki before the page for the comic book series should tell you something...
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* AdamWest as Catman is a parody of Series/{{Batman}} in ''FairlyOddParents''. However, there actually is a Catman which is a Batman villain created in the 60s.
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*** ...Because "black" means "Recentally African" rather then a skin color for some reason. The Australian Aboriginals say hi.
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* Most Disney fans assume that MickeyMouse is Disney's first cartoon character, and Peg-Leg Pete was created to be his primary enemy. Actually, Pete was the ''very first recurring Disney character'', created in 1925 (before even ''{{Oswald the Lucky Rabbit}}'') for one of Disney's AliceComedies, a series of shorts which mixed live action and animation. Pete was always a villain, but the fact is that he was imported into the earliest Mickey cartoons to give ''Mickey'' an established character to fight, not the other way around.

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* Most Disney fans assume that MickeyMouse is Disney's first cartoon character, and Peg-Leg Pete was created to be his primary enemy. Actually, Pete was the ''very first recurring Disney character'', created in 1925 (before even ''{{Oswald the Lucky Rabbit}}'') for one of Disney's AliceComedies, a series of shorts which mixed live action and animation. Pete was always a villain, but the fact is that he was imported into the earliest Mickey cartoons to [[RoguesGalleryTransplant give ''Mickey'' Mickey an established character to fight, fight]], not the other way around.
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* On a larger scale, a lot of baby boomers who grew up in TheSixties, if they have no knowledge of animation history, will be surprised when you tell them that cartoons from TheGoldenAgeOfAnimation such as ''LooneyTunes'' and ''TomAndJerry'' were coming out in the 1930's and 40's, and were already decades old back when they remember watching the cartoons on Saturday mornings.
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** Pete's son, PJ, is generally thought to have been created in 1992 for GoofTroop. He was actually created half a century prior, debuting in a DonaldDuck [[ClassicDisneyShorts cartoon]] called "Bellboy Donald", and the character is only seventeen years younger than his father.

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** Pete's son, PJ, is generally thought to have been created in 1992 for GoofTroop. He was actually created half a century prior, debuting in a DonaldDuck [[ClassicDisneyShorts cartoon]] called "Bellboy Donald", Donald" (Though his name was Junior and he looked like MickeyMouse with cat ears.), and the character is only seventeen years younger than his father.
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** It was significant enough for the ExecutiveMeddling to turn the animation from what would have been a great Stop-Motion film into a CG film... one of the biggest complaints against the film is that the characters "look/move weir.;" Note to Dreamworks: CG does ''not'' play well with characters designed for claymation.

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** It was significant enough for the ExecutiveMeddling to turn the animation from what would have been a great Stop-Motion film into a CG film... one of the biggest complaints against the film is that the characters "look/move weir.;" weird." Note to Dreamworks: CG does ''not'' play well with characters designed for claymation.
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--> '''Scooby-Doo'': (laughs) I don't get it.

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--> '''Scooby-Doo'': '''Scooby-Doo''': (laughs) I don't get it.
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* Here's one: ThePollyanna type in a place that is quite clearly {{Hell}}, run by a creature that is quite clearly {{Satan}}, who acts as a CorruptCorporateExecutive. No, not ''{{Jimmy Two-Shoes}}'', but an earlier show called ''TheBaskervilles''.

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* Here's one: ThePollyanna type in a place that is quite clearly {{Hell}}, run by a creature that is quite clearly {{Satan}}, who acts as a CorruptCorporateExecutive. No, not ''{{Jimmy Two-Shoes}}'', but an earlier show called ''TheBaskervilles''.''TheBaskervilles''.
* You know that route on "APupNamedScoobyDoo" that Shaggy and Scooby-Doo had. Shaggy makes a lame joke. Scooby-Doo laughs then says "I don't get it.". It come from "Hang In There, Scooby-Doo" from "The ScoobyDoo Show". The gang had found a cassette of rock music in the cavern.
--> '''Shaggy''': Those cave teenagers love their rock music?
--> '''Scooby-Doo'': (laughs) I don't get it.
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* The triangular CoolShades worn by Soundwave and Prowl of ''TransformersAnimated'' are often mistaken to be a ShoutOut to the [[MemeticMutation famous]] ones worn by Kamina of ''TengenToppaGurrenLagann'', but [[WordOfGod Derrick J. Wyatt]] said they were actually a reference to the much older ''ABCWarriors'' of ''2000 AD'' fame. They were also worn by several other characters before Kamina, including [[CalvinAndHobbes Calvin]] (in one strip) and Ash's [[{{Pokémon}} Squirtle]]. Many also thought the ''Lagann'' had some influence on the Headmaster design (both are robots that could become the head of another mecha to boost it's power). However, besides the idea of a robot becoming a Transformer's head dating back to [[TransformersGenerationOne G1]], Wyatt stated that he'd never seen ''Gurren Lagann'' until after the first season was already done with production (though he stated that if he ''had'' seen it before, the design would probably have stubby legs and let Masterson poke his head out the top).

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* The triangular CoolShades worn by Soundwave and Prowl of ''TransformersAnimated'' are often mistaken to be a ShoutOut to the [[MemeticMutation famous]] ones worn by Kamina of ''TengenToppaGurrenLagann'', but [[WordOfGod Derrick J. Wyatt]] said they were actually a reference to the much older ''ABCWarriors'' of ''2000 AD'' fame. They were also worn by several other characters before Kamina, including [[CalvinAndHobbes Calvin]] (in one strip) and Ash's [[{{Pokémon}} [[{{Pokemon}} Squirtle]]. Many also thought the ''Lagann'' had some influence on the Headmaster design (both are robots that could become the head of another mecha to boost it's power). However, besides the idea of a robot becoming a Transformer's head dating back to [[TransformersGenerationOne G1]], Wyatt stated that he'd never seen ''Gurren Lagann'' until after the first season was already done with production (though he stated that if he ''had'' seen it before, the design would probably have stubby legs and let Masterson poke his head out the top).
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** While Homer Simpson is named after creator Matt Groening's father, he also shares his name with a supporting character in Nathanael West's novella, ''The Day of the Locust'', which was written [[OlderThanTelevision in 1939]]. This has amused more than a few English majors.

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** While Homer Simpson is named after creator Matt Groening's father, he also shares his name with a supporting character in Nathanael West's novella, ''The Day of the Locust'', which was written [[OlderThanTelevision in 1939]].1939. This has amused more than a few English majors.
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*** Of course, it you think that is OlderThanTheyThink, you need to take a closer look at the title of episode 7G03 from the first season, ''Homer's [[TheOdyssey Odyssey]]''.

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*** Of course, it you think that is OlderThanTheyThink, you need to take a closer look at the title of episode 7G03 from the first season, ''Homer's ''[[IncrediblyLamePun Homer's]] [[TheOdyssey Odyssey]]''.
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*** Of course, it you think that is OlderThanTheyThink, you need to take a closer look at the title of episode 7G03 from the first season, ''Homer's [[TheOdyssey Odyssey]]''.
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** While Homer Simpson is named after creator Matt Groening's father, he also shares his name with a supporting character in Nathanael West's novella, ''The Day of the Locust'', which was written [[OlderThanTelevision in 1939]].

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** While Homer Simpson is named after creator Matt Groening's father, he also shares his name with a supporting character in Nathanael West's novella, ''The Day of the Locust'', which was written [[OlderThanTelevision in 1939]]. This has amused more than a few English majors.
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** While Homer Simpson is named after Matt Groening's father, he also shares his name with a supporting character in Nathanael West's novella, ''The Day of the Locust'', which was written [[OlderThanTelevision in 1939]].

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** While Homer Simpson is named after creator Matt Groening's father, he also shares his name with a supporting character in Nathanael West's novella, ''The Day of the Locust'', which was written [[OlderThanTelevision in 1939]].
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** While Homer Simpson is named after Matt Groening's father, he also shares his name with a supporting character in Nathanael West's novella, ''The Day of the Locust'', which was written [[OlderThanTelevision in 1939]].

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* Despite it often being claimed that MickeyMouse is Disney's first cartoon character (even by the Disney Company itself), Pete predates him by three years.

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* Despite it often being claimed Most Disney fans assume that MickeyMouse is Disney's first cartoon character, and Peg-Leg Pete was created to be his primary enemy. Actually, Pete was the ''very first recurring Disney character'', created in 1925 (before even ''{{Oswald the Lucky Rabbit}}'') for one of Disney's AliceComedies, a series of shorts which mixed live action and animation. Pete was always a villain, but the fact is that he was imported into the earliest Mickey cartoons to give ''Mickey'' an established character (even by to fight, not the Disney Company itself), Pete predates him by three years.other way around.



** Oswald the Lucky Rabbit predates them by even longer. In fact, were it not over a legal dispute over Oswald's rights, Mickey Mouse would not exist.
*** And even '''before''' that, there was [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alice_Comedies Alice Comedies]].
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*** And even '''before''' that, there was [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alice_Comedies Alice Comedies]].
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** Oswald the Lucky Rabbit predates them by even longer. In fact, were it not over a legal dispute over Oswald's rights, Mickey Mouse would not exist.
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* The cars in [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pxap-M_--k&feature=related this short]] bear a certain striking similarity to {{Cars}}. Thing is though, the short is actually from ''1952''!
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*** Which was a best-selling ''book'' first.
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** One of the best known examples ''in pop culture'' would be Ashley Wilkes of GoneWithTheWind, a film consistantly put in top 10 lists.
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** The DVD subtitles, at least, give "MIMICS THREE STOOGES" rather than "WHOOP WHOOP WHOOP".

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** The DVD subtitles, at least, give "MIMICS THREE STOOGES" or "IMITATES CURLY FROM THE THREE STOOGES" rather than "WHOOP WHOOP WHOOP".
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* In one episode of ''{{Recess}}'', Gus is involved in a plot against the Ashleys wherein he claims Ashley is also his name - insisting that it's not that unusual in the progressive 1990s. In reality, "Ashley" was almost solely a boy's name until the early 20th century; it was perfectly acceptable for a boy to be named Ashley ''over a hundred years'' before the episode was written or aired.

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* In one episode of ''{{Recess}}'', Gus is involved in a plot against the Ashleys wherein he claims Ashley is also his name - insisting that it's not that unusual in the progressive 1990s. In reality, "Ashley" was almost solely a boy's name until the early 20th century; it was perfectly acceptable for a boy to be named Ashley ''over a hundred years'' before the episode was written or aired.aired.
* Here's one: ThePollyanna type in a place that is quite clearly {{Hell}}, run by a creature that is quite clearly {{Satan}}, who acts as a CorruptCorporateExecutive. No, not ''{{Jimmy Two-Shoes}}'', but an earlier show called ''TheBaskervilles''.

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