History OlderThanTheyThink / WesternAnimation

16th Sep '16 1:38:59 PM TropesForever
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** Creator/WinsorMcCay did a primitive version in ''1914'' in ''WesternAnimation/GertieTheDinosaur''.
9th Sep '16 8:11:48 AM Sapphirea2
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** Jiminy Cricket is the sidekick in Disney's next animated feature, ''Disney/{{Pinocchio}}'', but his name isn't original -- it's a pun playing off of a then-common expression that turns up in this one! When they first realize a stranger is in their cottage, the dwarfs whisper "Jiminy crickets!" in unison.
9th Sep '16 8:08:27 AM Sapphirea2
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* Disney's animated take on ''Disney/BeautyAndTheBeast'' isn't the first adaptation of the work to feature {{Animate Inanimate Object}}s -- they can be seen in Jean Cocteau's legendary [[Film/BeautyAndTheBeast live-action film from 1946]] and a Russian animated featurette from the same decade, both of which were adapting the detail in the source fairy tale that the castle seems to have no residents aside from the Beast, yet it's always meticulously maintained, food is plentiful, etc. The main difference, and it ''is'' significant, is that Disney's Enchanted Objects are fully-developed characters. The 1946 film is also the first adaptation to have a character who is a romantic rival for the heroine, and who tries to loot the castle and destroy the Beast in the climax, although Gaston is a much more developed and diabolical character than Avenant. Disney doesn't make a big point of acknowledging this film's influence on their version, but they occasionally do; they once considered doing a DirectToVideo sequel to their version that would have had Gaston's brother, who would have been named Avenant as a direct reference, as the villain.

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* [[Disney/BeautyAndTheBeast Disney's animated take take]] on ''Disney/BeautyAndTheBeast'' "Literature/BeautyAndTheBeast" isn't the first adaptation of the work to feature {{Animate Inanimate Object}}s -- they can be seen in Jean Cocteau's legendary [[Film/BeautyAndTheBeast live-action film from 1946]] and a Russian animated featurette from the same decade, both of which were adapting the detail in the source fairy tale that the castle seems to have no residents aside from the Beast, yet it's always meticulously maintained, food is plentiful, etc. The main difference, and it ''is'' significant, is that Disney's Enchanted Objects are fully-developed characters. The 1946 film is also the first adaptation to have a character who is a romantic rival for the heroine, and who tries to loot the castle and destroy the Beast in the climax, although Gaston is a much more developed and diabolical character than Avenant. Disney doesn't make a big point of acknowledging this film's influence on their version, but they occasionally do; they once considered doing a DirectToVideo sequel to their version that would have had Gaston's brother, who would have been named Avenant as a direct reference, as the villain.villain.
* ''Disney/SnowWhiteAndTheSevenDwarfs''-related examples:
** Walt Disney choosing the fairy tale as the basis for his first feature-length production goes back to his being impressed by a 1916 silent film version that adapted a 1912 Broadway play based on the story collected by the Brothers Grimm! The play is probably the first adaptation of the story in which the Queen's disguise as a peddler woman is the result of a magical transformation rather than WigDressAccent. The silent film adds the detail that Snow White is forced to work by her stepmother as a maid, in hopes of playing down the girl's beauty.
** While often touted as the first full-length animated feature, 1926's ''WesternAnimation/TheAdventuresOfPrinceAchmed'' predates it by eleven years. It's a silent feature that uses cut-out silhouettes against painted, colored backdrops. Disney's film ''is'' the first full-color and cel-animated feature, with a full music-and-dialogue soundtrack.
9th Sep '16 7:53:03 AM Sapphirea2
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* Disney's animated take on ''Disney/BeautyAndTheBeast'' isn't the first adaptation of the work to feature {{Animate Inanimate Object}}s -- they can be seen in Jean Cocteau's legendary [[Film/BeautyAndTheBeast live-action film from 1946]] and a Russian animated featurette from the same decade, both of which were adapting the detail in the source fairy tale that the castle seems to have no residents aside from the Beast, yet it's always meticulously maintained, food is plentiful, etc. The main difference, and it ''is'' significant, is that Disney's Enchanted Objects are fully-developed characters. The 1946 film is also the first adaptation to have a character who is a romantic rival for the heroine, and who tries to loot the castle and destroy the Beast in the climax, although Gaston is a much more developed and diabolical character than Avenant. Disney doesn't make a big point of acknowledging this film's influence on their version, but they occasionally do; they once considered doing a DirectToVideo sequel to their version that would have had Gaston's brother, who would have been named Avenant as a direct reference, as the villain.
25th Aug '16 6:18:56 PM AjWargo
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* Who first used HumongousMecha? Was it ''Franchise/{{Transformers}}''? The Japanese ''[[Series/SpiderManJapan Spider-Man]]''? Creator/RobertAHeinlein's ''Literature/StarshipTroopers''? The tripods from the original ''[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_of_the_Worlds War Of The Worlds]]'' book from 1898? The [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garuda Tale of Garuda]] from ''ancient Hindu legend'' had a robot with [[ChainsawGood rotary saws for hands]]. This one is officially one of TheOldestOnesInTheBook.

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* Who first used HumongousMecha? Was it ''Franchise/{{Transformers}}''? The Japanese ''[[Series/SpiderManJapan Spider-Man]]''? Creator/RobertAHeinlein's ''Literature/StarshipTroopers''? The Martian tripods from the original ''[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_of_the_Worlds War Of The Worlds]]'' book from 1898? The [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garuda Tale of Garuda]] from ''ancient Hindu legend'' had a robot with [[ChainsawGood rotary saws for hands]]. This one is officially one of TheOldestOnesInTheBook.
24th Jul '16 9:44:50 PM PaulA
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** Even earlier was Rankin/Bass's {{The Last Unicorn}}, featuring Alan Arkin, Jeff Bridges, Mia Farrow, Angela Lansbury, and Christopher Lee.

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** Even earlier was Rankin/Bass's {{The Last Unicorn}}, ''WesternAnimation/TheLastUnicorn'', featuring Alan Arkin, Jeff Bridges, Mia Farrow, Angela Lansbury, and Christopher Lee.
10th Jul '16 3:30:59 AM kelly24601
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** Even earlier was Rankin/Bass's {{The Last Unicorn}}, featuring Alan Arkin, Jeff Bridges, Mia Farrow, Angela Lansbury, and Christopher Lee.
22nd Jun '16 9:21:18 PM Pichu-kun
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* Judging from its sheer presence on the internet, it's a fair assumption that the ''MyLittlePony'' franchise never caught on with males until ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'', but there were bronies (not that they ''called'' themselves that) back as far as Generation 1 - believe it or not, the G1 cartoon series usually dealt with boy-friendly epic fantasy adventures, not stereotypically girly fare. But since 4Chan wasn't around in TheEighties, the male fans of the show didn't make themselves known as a significant PeripheryDemographic until the latest series.
** The infamous "Rainbow Dash always dresses in style" quote is usually associated with G3.5 (as is the theme song the lyric appears in), but the quote - and the song - were actually borrowed from G3.
** Actually, who here remembers the ''first'' time we saw multi-colored equines dancing across the screen in WesternAnimation. You know, small unicorns dancing around, and pegasi too. What, TheEighties? No...we saw these as early as TheForties - I'm talking about the Pastorale in ''Disney/{{Fantasia}}''.

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* ''Franchise/MyLittlePony'':
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Judging from its sheer presence on the internet, it's a fair assumption that the ''MyLittlePony'' ''Franchise/MyLittlePony'' franchise never caught on with males until ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'', but there were bronies (not that they ''called'' themselves that) back as far as Generation 1 - believe it or not, the G1 cartoon series usually dealt with boy-friendly epic fantasy adventures, not stereotypically girly fare. But since 4Chan wasn't around in TheEighties, the male fans of the show didn't make themselves known as a significant PeripheryDemographic until the latest series.
** The infamous "Rainbow Dash always dresses in style" quote is usually associated with G3.5 (as is the theme song the lyric appears in), but the quote - and the song - were actually borrowed from G3.
G3's "Core 7" soft reboot.
** Actually, who here remembers the ''first'' time we saw multi-colored equines dancing across the screen in WesternAnimation. You know, small unicorns dancing around, and pegasi too. What, TheEighties? No...we saw these as early as TheForties - I'm we're talking about the Pastorale in ''Disney/{{Fantasia}}''.



** [[PeripheryDemographic A children's show appealing to an adult audience?]] Friendship Is Magic is revolutionary and has broken down ''all'' the barriers of the AnimationAgeGhetto...if ''[[WesternAnimation/{{Arthur}} Arthur]]'', ''[[WesternAnimation/TheBackyardigans The Backyardigans]]'', and ''[[Series/SesameStreet Sesame Street]]'' didn't beat it to the punch ''years'' and even ''decades'' earlier.

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** [[PeripheryDemographic A young children's show appealing to an adult audience?]] Friendship Is Magic is revolutionary and has broken down ''all'' the barriers of the AnimationAgeGhetto...if ''[[WesternAnimation/{{Arthur}} Arthur]]'', ''[[WesternAnimation/TheBackyardigans The Backyardigans]]'', and ''[[Series/SesameStreet Sesame Street]]'' didn't beat it to the punch ''years'' and even ''decades'' earlier.



** At first, ''Friendship is Magic'' became well-known for its occasional GenreShift into SliceOfLife instead of adventure. This was actually first explored in ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyTales'' and later on in G3 along with G3.5.

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** At first, ''Friendship is Magic'' became well-known for its occasional GenreShift into SliceOfLife instead of adventure. This was actually first explored in ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyTales'' and later on in G3 ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyG3 along with G3.5.



** Many ponies (especially in the toy line) predate ''Friendship Is Magic''. Applejack was outright one of the first G1 ponies as she was a year 2 character.



* The Chipettes from ''Franchise/AlvinAndTheChipmunks'' first officially appeared in 1983 however they were first referenced a year earlier in the song "The One That I Want" from the CD ''The Chipmunks Go Hollywood''. In the song, Theodore mentions Charlene and states that she's from a group known as "The Chipettes". Charlene was eventually replaced with a SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute, Britanny.

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* The Chipettes from ''Franchise/AlvinAndTheChipmunks'' first officially appeared in 1983 however they were first referenced a year earlier in the song "The One That I Want" from the CD ''The Chipmunks Go Hollywood''. In the song, Theodore mentions Charlene and states that she's from a group known as "The Chipettes". Charlene was eventually replaced with a SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute, Britanny.Brittany.
22nd Jun '16 9:07:56 PM Pichu-kun
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* Ultimate Spiderman been getting a lot of flack from the FanDumb for being LighterAndSofter getting multiply improbable crossovers and where spidey faces foes not in his RoguesGallery where in any other story , he would get killed. They probably never heard of [[http://www.spiderfan.org/comics/title/spiderman_super_stories-2.html Spidey]] [[http://notthebeastmaster.typepad.com/weblog/2004/03/hey_kids_death.html Super]] [[http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2010/06/14/i-lova-ya-but-youre-strange-2/ Stories]]

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* Ultimate Spiderman ''Ultimate Spiderman'' has been getting a lot of flack from the FanDumb for being LighterAndSofter getting multiply improbable crossovers and where spidey faces foes not in his RoguesGallery where in any other story , he would get killed. They probably never heard of [[http://www.spiderfan.org/comics/title/spiderman_super_stories-2.html Spidey]] [[http://notthebeastmaster.typepad.com/weblog/2004/03/hey_kids_death.html Super]] [[http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2010/06/14/i-lova-ya-but-youre-strange-2/ Stories]]


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* The Chipettes from ''Franchise/AlvinAndTheChipmunks'' first officially appeared in 1983 however they were first referenced a year earlier in the song "The One That I Want" from the CD ''The Chipmunks Go Hollywood''. In the song, Theodore mentions Charlene and states that she's from a group known as "The Chipettes". Charlene was eventually replaced with a SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute, Britanny.
30th Apr '16 3:27:41 PM Chris
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* When it was announced that ''WesternAnimation/SamuraiJack'' would be getting a brand new fifth season years after being cancelled, one notable aspect that surprised many is that the new season would be set to premiere on Creator/{{Toonami}} on Creator/AdultSwim... and would ''still'' be produced by Cartoon Network Studios, the same company who produced the first four seasons. Surprising? Maybe, but it's actually not the first time that Cartoon Network Studios has produced anything for [adult swim]. That honor belongs to the second season of ''WesternAnimation/BlackDynamite''.
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