History OlderThanTheyThink / WesternAnimation

22nd Jun '17 12:14:02 PM Pichu-kun
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** For that matter, most people don't know that Mickey was an {{Expy}} of Oswald...but even fewer know that Oswald himself was an Expy of Julius the Cat from the Disney's AliceComedies, who was himself a CaptainErsatz of WesternAnimation/FelixTheCat.

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** For that matter, most people don't know that Mickey was an {{Expy}} of Oswald...but even fewer know that Oswald himself was an Expy of Julius the Cat from the Disney's AliceComedies, ''AliceComedies'', who was himself a CaptainErsatz of WesternAnimation/FelixTheCat.



* The voices in ''WesternAnimation/TheArchieShow'' were cast to emulate the voice from the 1940s radio shows.

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* The voices in ''WesternAnimation/TheArchieShow'' were cast to emulate the voice from the 1940s ''Archie'' radio shows.



** Speaking of Creator/CartoonNetwork, it has recently become common to blame network CEO Christina Miller for the poor performance of its more "serious" action-based cartoons, with many viewers even accusing her of subscribing to the AnimationAgeGhetto. But this problem actually dates back several years earlier, with ''WesternAnimation/GreenLanternTheAnimatedSeries'', ''WesternAnimation/YoungJustice'', and ''WesternAnimation/SymBionicTitan'' all being cancelled in a short period of time before Miller arrived.

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** * Speaking of Creator/CartoonNetwork, it has recently become common to blame network CEO Christina Miller for the poor performance of its more "serious" action-based cartoons, with many viewers even accusing her of subscribing to the AnimationAgeGhetto. But this problem actually dates back several years earlier, with ''WesternAnimation/GreenLanternTheAnimatedSeries'', ''WesternAnimation/YoungJustice'', and ''WesternAnimation/SymBionicTitan'' all being cancelled in a short period of time before Miller arrived.



* Regardless of what the show's fans would like to believe, the Misfits were originally a horror-themed punk band from New Jersey formed in 1977, NOT an original creation as a fictonal band in ''Jem''. The band was obscure at the time and had split up 2 years prior to the cartoon's creation so it was unlikely anyone involved knew of them at the time, but when the band themselves tried to prevent Hasbro from using the name, Hasbro chose to go ahead regardless due to "legal loopholes" involving trademarks. Then former frontman Glenn Danzig gave his approval when he learned of it, no doubt due to his anger with the rest of the band at the time. While the band themselves have not taken any legal action to this day, Jerry Only and the rest of the band refuse to publicly acknowledge the cartoon even exists and will not answer questions concerning their thoughts on it(perhaps to avoid giving the series any attention at all). ''Jem'' fans likewise tend to get angry when it's mentioned, believing the band has no right to complain(and yes, I shall point out the irony in anger over copied names, what with Jem having been the name of a character in Harper Lee's ''To Kill A Mockingbird'' some 20 years prior).

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* Regardless of what the show's fans would like to believe, the Misfits were originally [[NamesTheSame originally]] a horror-themed punk band from New Jersey formed in 1977, NOT an original creation as a fictonal band in ''Jem''.''WesternAnimation/{{Jem}}''. The band was obscure at the time and had split up 2 years prior to the cartoon's creation so it was unlikely anyone involved knew of them at the time, but when the band themselves tried to prevent Hasbro from using the name, Hasbro chose to go ahead regardless due to "legal loopholes" involving trademarks. Then former frontman Glenn Danzig gave his approval when he learned of it, no doubt due to his anger with the rest of the band at the time. While the band themselves have not taken any legal action to this day, Jerry Only and the rest of the band refuse to publicly acknowledge the cartoon even exists and will not answer questions concerning their thoughts on it(perhaps it (perhaps to avoid giving the series any attention at all). ''Jem'' fans likewise tend to get angry when it's mentioned, believing the band has no right to complain(and yes, I we shall point out the irony in anger over copied names, what with Jem having been the name of a character in Harper Lee's ''To Kill A Mockingbird'' some 20 years prior).
17th Jun '17 9:49:36 PM whateveryousay21
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* Regardless of what the show's fans would like to believe, the Misfits were originally a horror-themed punk band from New Jersey formed in 1977, NOT an original creation as a fictonal band in ''Jem''. The band was obscure at the time and had split up 2 years prior to the cartoon's creation so it was unlikely anyone involved knew of them at the time, but when the band themselves tried to prevent Hasbro from using the name, Hasbro chose to go ahead regardless due to "legal loopholes" involving trademarks. Then former frontman Glenn Danzig gave his approval when he learned of it, no doubt due to his anger with the rest of the band at the time. While the band themselves have not taken any legal action to this day, Jerry Only and the rest of the band refuse to publicly acknowledge the cartoon even exists and will not answer questions concerning their thoughts on it(perhaps to avoid giving the series any attention at all). ''Jem'' fans likewise tend to get angry when it's mentioned, believing the band has no right to complain(and yes, I shall point out the irony in anger over copied names, what with Jem having been the name of a character in Harper Lee's ''To Kill A Mockingbird'' some 20 years prior).
6th May '17 4:56:27 PM nombretomado
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* The triangular CoolShades worn by Soundwave and Prowl of ''TransformersAnimated'' are often mistaken to be a ShoutOut to the [[MemeticMutation famous]] ones worn by Kamina of ''Anime/TengenToppaGurrenLagann'', but [[WordOfGod Derrick J. Wyatt]] said they were actually a reference to the much older ''ComicBook/ABCWarriors'' of ''2000 AD'' fame. They were also worn by several other characters before Kamina, including [[ComicStrip/CalvinAndHobbes Calvin]] (in one strip) and Ash's [[Anime/{{Pokemon}} Squirtle]]. Many also thought the ''Lagann'' had some influence on the Headmaster design (both are robots that could become the head of another mecha to boost its power). However, besides the idea of a robot becoming a Transformer's head dating back to [[TransformersGenerationOne G1]], Wyatt stated that he'd never seen ''Gurren Lagann'' until after the first season was already done with production (though he stated that if he ''had'' seen it before, the design would probably have stubby legs and let Masterson poke his head out the top).

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* The triangular CoolShades worn by Soundwave and Prowl of ''TransformersAnimated'' ''WesternAnimation/TransformersAnimated'' are often mistaken to be a ShoutOut to the [[MemeticMutation famous]] ones worn by Kamina of ''Anime/TengenToppaGurrenLagann'', but [[WordOfGod Derrick J. Wyatt]] said they were actually a reference to the much older ''ComicBook/ABCWarriors'' of ''2000 AD'' fame. They were also worn by several other characters before Kamina, including [[ComicStrip/CalvinAndHobbes Calvin]] (in one strip) and Ash's [[Anime/{{Pokemon}} Squirtle]]. Many also thought the ''Lagann'' had some influence on the Headmaster design (both are robots that could become the head of another mecha to boost its power). However, besides the idea of a robot becoming a Transformer's head dating back to [[TransformersGenerationOne [[Franchise/TransformersGenerationOne G1]], Wyatt stated that he'd never seen ''Gurren Lagann'' until after the first season was already done with production (though he stated that if he ''had'' seen it before, the design would probably have stubby legs and let Masterson poke his head out the top).
13th Apr '17 5:31:17 PM nombretomado
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* A lot of Internet commentators accused the ''WesternAnimation/GravityFalls'' short "Hidebehind" of ripping off the SlenderManMythos-- being apparently unaware that the Hidebehind is a much older folkloric creature.

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* A lot of Internet commentators accused the ''WesternAnimation/GravityFalls'' short "Hidebehind" of ripping off the SlenderManMythos-- Franchise/TheSlenderManMythos -- being apparently unaware that the Hidebehind is a much older folkloric creature.
19th Mar '17 11:55:39 AM nombretomado
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* Spoofed in the "Springfield Shopper" booklet that comes with the ''Simpsons Movie'' DVD; in it, Homer (as a movie critic who's ''way'' behind with his column) describes ''Star Wars'' (by which he means ''ANewHope'') as being "a parody of ''Film/{{Spaceballs}}''".

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* Spoofed in the "Springfield Shopper" booklet that comes with the ''Simpsons Movie'' DVD; in it, Homer (as a movie critic who's ''way'' behind with his column) describes ''Star Wars'' (by which he means ''ANewHope'') ''Film/ANewHope'') as being "a parody of ''Film/{{Spaceballs}}''".
19th Feb '17 5:07:21 AM Mario500
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* Adult animation? Most people think ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'', ''WesternAnimation/BeavisAndButthead'' and ''WesternAnimation/SouthPark'' were the first to specifically aim more at an adult audience. In fact, Creator/RalphBakshi created the first adult cartoon features in the 1970s, pioneering topics such as sex, drugs, bloody violence and politics. And even before Bakshi you had ''WesternAnimation/AnimalFarm'' (1955), a British animated feature based on Creator/GeorgeOrwell's ''Literature/AnimalFarm'', satirizing Communism as an animal fable. Not too mention ''WesternAnimation/LooneyTunes'', ''WesternAnimation/BettyBoop'' and the cartoons of Creator/TexAvery in the 1930s and 1940s making adult jokes and sexual innuendo. You might think that Bakskhi at least can attribute the first animated pornographic film to his name, ''WesternAnimation/FritzTheCat''? Not quite, in 1928 (!) a silent black-and-white short cartoon was made called "Eveready Harton in Buried Treasures" featuring a man with a giant RagingStiffie walking around looking for a woman. This short has remained anonymous however, fell into the public domain and was only rediscovered in the 1970s.

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* Adult animation? Most people think ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'', ''WesternAnimation/BeavisAndButthead'' and ''WesternAnimation/SouthPark'' were the first to specifically aim more at an adult audience. In fact, Creator/RalphBakshi created the first adult cartoon features in the 1970s, pioneering topics such as sex, drugs, bloody violence and politics. And even before Bakshi you had ''WesternAnimation/AnimalFarm'' (1955), a British animated feature based on Creator/GeorgeOrwell's ''Literature/AnimalFarm'', satirizing Communism as an animal fable. Not too to mention ''WesternAnimation/LooneyTunes'', ''WesternAnimation/BettyBoop'' and the cartoons of Creator/TexAvery in the 1930s and 1940s making adult jokes and sexual innuendo. You might think that Bakskhi at least can attribute the first animated pornographic film to his name, ''WesternAnimation/FritzTheCat''? Not quite, in 1928 (!) a silent black-and-white short cartoon was made called "Eveready Harton in Buried Treasures" featuring a man with a giant RagingStiffie walking around looking for a woman. This short has remained anonymous however, fell into the public domain and was only rediscovered in the 1970s.
18th Feb '17 7:02:54 AM Mario500
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* An animated action series with a FieryRedhead ActionGirl whose blond male sidekick and a VoiceWithAnInternetConnection help her pursue a hot former crimefighter with long black hair who turned to crime ForTheEvulz because she was bored being a good guy. What? What is this "WesternAnimation/KimPossible" you speak of? It's ''WesternAnimation/WhereOnEarthIsCarmenSandiego''.
** You know, Kim Possible? The [[BuffySpeak slang-happy]], petite, fashion-forward cheerleader who [[ActionGirl fights bad guys]] and occasionally saves the world while trying to maintain a normal social life, with the help of her two classmates, a [[CoolLoser nerdy]] computer hacker and an [[ButtMonkey ineffectual goofus]] with HiddenDepths who's secretly in love with her? They occasionally butt heads with the [[AlphaBitch bitchy rich girl]], or Kim's [[DarkActionGirl snarky brunette]] [[ShadowArchetype nemesis]] who defected from the good guys to [[TheDragon hench]] for a perky villain-. No, wait, I was thinking of Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer.

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* An animated action series with a FieryRedhead ActionGirl whose blond male sidekick and a VoiceWithAnInternetConnection help her pursue a hot former crimefighter with long black hair who turned to crime ForTheEvulz because she was bored being a good guy. What? What is this "WesternAnimation/KimPossible" you speak of? It's ''WesternAnimation/WhereOnEarthIsCarmenSandiego''.
** You know, Kim Possible? The [[BuffySpeak slang-happy]], petite, fashion-forward cheerleader who [[ActionGirl fights bad guys]] and occasionally saves the world while trying to maintain a normal social life, with the help of her two classmates, a [[CoolLoser nerdy]] computer hacker and an [[ButtMonkey ineffectual goofus]] partner]] with HiddenDepths who's secretly in love with her? They occasionally butt heads with the [[AlphaBitch bitchy mean rich girl]], or Kim's [[DarkActionGirl snarky brunette]] [[ShadowArchetype nemesis]] who defected from the good guys to [[TheDragon hench]] for a perky villain-. No, wait, I was thinking of Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer.
18th Feb '17 6:35:08 AM Mario500
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* Adult animation? Most people think ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'', ''WesternAnimation/BeavisAndButthead'' and ''WesternAnimation/SouthPark'' were the first to specifically aim more at an adult audience. In fact, Creator/RalphBakshi created the first adult cartoon features in the 1970s, pioneering topics such as sex, drugs, bloody violence and politics. And even before Bakshi you had ''WesternAnimation/AnimalFarm'' (1955), a British animated feature based on Creator/GeorgeOrwell's ''Literature/AnimalFarm'', satirizing Communism as an animal fable. Not too mention ''WesternAnimation/LooneyTunes'', ''WesternAnimation/BettyBoop'' and the cartoons of Creator/TexAvery in the 1930s and 1940s making adult comedy jokes, with sometimes sexual innuendo. You might think that Bakskhi at least can attribute the first animated pornographic film to his name, ''WesternAnimation/FritzTheCat''? Not quite, in 1928 (!) a silent black-and-white short cartoon was made called "Eveready Harton in Buried Treasures" featuring a man with a giant RagingStiffie walking around looking for a woman. This short has remained anonymous however, fell into the public domain and was only rediscovered in the 1970s.

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* Adult animation? Most people think ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'', ''WesternAnimation/BeavisAndButthead'' and ''WesternAnimation/SouthPark'' were the first to specifically aim more at an adult audience. In fact, Creator/RalphBakshi created the first adult cartoon features in the 1970s, pioneering topics such as sex, drugs, bloody violence and politics. And even before Bakshi you had ''WesternAnimation/AnimalFarm'' (1955), a British animated feature based on Creator/GeorgeOrwell's ''Literature/AnimalFarm'', satirizing Communism as an animal fable. Not too mention ''WesternAnimation/LooneyTunes'', ''WesternAnimation/BettyBoop'' and the cartoons of Creator/TexAvery in the 1930s and 1940s making adult comedy jokes, with sometimes jokes and sexual innuendo. You might think that Bakskhi at least can attribute the first animated pornographic film to his name, ''WesternAnimation/FritzTheCat''? Not quite, in 1928 (!) a silent black-and-white short cartoon was made called "Eveready Harton in Buried Treasures" featuring a man with a giant RagingStiffie walking around looking for a woman. This short has remained anonymous however, fell into the public domain and was only rediscovered in the 1970s.
12th Feb '17 6:02:31 AM Ccook1956
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** Similarly, "Merrily We Roll Along" did not originate with Merrie Melodies. It was a song from a show of the same name in 1934, sung and co-written by Eddie Cantor. It was first repurposed with different lyrics in the cartoons "Billboard Frolics" (1935) and "Toy Town Hall" (1936) before becoming the Merrie Melodies theme.
2nd Feb '17 11:44:48 AM mlsmithca
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** While Homer Simpson is named after creator Matt Groening's father, he also shares his (first ''and'' last) name with a supporting character in Nathanael West's novella ''Literature/TheDayOfTheLocust'', which was written in 1939. This has amused more than a few English majors, though Groening deliberately got the name from that novel.

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** While Homer Simpson is named after creator Matt Groening's father, he also shares his (first ''and'' last) name with a supporting character in Nathanael West's novella ''Literature/TheDayOfTheLocust'', which was written in 1939. This has amused more than a few English majors, though Groening deliberately got the name from that novel. In the Series 24 episode "Penny-Wiseguys", Homer lampshades the literary origin of his name with the line "I never thought Homer Simpson would be a part of the Day of the Locust!"
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