History OlderThanTheyThink / WesternAnimation

19th Sep '17 7:57:46 PM Pichu-kun
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* Regardless of what the show's fans would like to believe, the Misfits were [[NamesTheSame originally]] a horror-themed punk band from New Jersey formed in 1977, NOT an original creation as a fictonal band in ''WesternAnimation/{{Jem}}''. The band was obscure at the time and had split up 2 years prior to the cartoon's creation so it was unlikely anyone involved knew of them at the time, but when the band themselves tried to prevent Hasbro from using the name, Hasbro chose to go ahead regardless due to "legal loopholes" involving trademarks. Then former frontman Glenn Danzig gave his approval when he learned of it, no doubt due to his anger with the rest of the band at the time. While the band themselves have not taken any legal action to this day, Jerry Only and the rest of the band refuse to publicly acknowledge the cartoon even exists and will not answer questions concerning their thoughts on it (perhaps to avoid giving the series any attention at all). ''Jem'' fans likewise tend to get angry when it's mentioned, believing the band has no right to complain(and yes, we shall point out the irony in anger over copied names, what with Jem having been the name of a character in Harper Lee's ''To Kill A Mockingbird'' some 20 years prior).

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* Regardless of what the show's fans would like to believe, the ''WesternAnimation/{{Jem}}'':
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Misfits were [[NamesTheSame originally]] a horror-themed punk band from New Jersey formed in 1977, NOT an original creation as a fictonal band in ''WesternAnimation/{{Jem}}''. ''Jem''. The band was obscure at the time and had split up 2 years prior to the cartoon's creation creation, so it was unlikely anyone involved knew of them at the time, but when the band themselves tried to prevent Hasbro from using the name, Hasbro chose to go ahead regardless due to "legal loopholes" involving trademarks. Then former frontman Glenn Danzig gave his approval when he learned of it, no doubt due to his anger with the rest of the band at the time. While the band themselves have not taken any legal action to this day, Jerry Only and the rest of the band refuse to publicly acknowledge the cartoon even exists and will not answer questions concerning their thoughts on it (perhaps to avoid giving the series any attention at all). ''Jem'' fans likewise tend to sometimes get angry when it's mentioned, believing the band has no right to complain(and complain (and yes, we shall point out the irony in anger over copied names, what with Jem ''Jem'' having been the name of a character in Harper Lee's ''To Kill A Mockingbird'' some 20 years prior).prior). Reportedly, the original intro was replaced because the original intro featured The Misfits proudly exclaiming their band name.
31st Aug '17 7:50:34 AM SeptimusHeap
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* Most Disney fans assume that WesternAnimation/MickeyMouse is Walt Disney's first cartoon character, and Peg-Leg Pete was created to be his primary enemy. Actually, Pete was the ''very first recurring Disney character'', created in 1925 (before even ''WesternAnimation/OswaldTheLuckyRabbit'') for one of Disney's AliceComedies, a series of shorts which mixed live action and animation. Pete was always a villain, but the fact is that he was imported into the earliest Mickey cartoons to [[RoguesGalleryTransplant give Mickey an established character to fight]], not the other way around.
** For that matter, most people don't know that Mickey was an {{Expy}} of Oswald...but even fewer know that Oswald himself was an Expy of Julius the Cat from the Disney's ''AliceComedies'', who was himself a CaptainErsatz of WesternAnimation/FelixTheCat.

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* Most Disney fans assume that WesternAnimation/MickeyMouse is Walt Disney's first cartoon character, and Peg-Leg Pete was created to be his primary enemy. Actually, Pete was the ''very first recurring Disney character'', created in 1925 (before even ''WesternAnimation/OswaldTheLuckyRabbit'') for one of Disney's AliceComedies, WesternAnimation/AliceComedies, a series of shorts which mixed live action and animation. Pete was always a villain, but the fact is that he was imported into the earliest Mickey cartoons to [[RoguesGalleryTransplant give Mickey an established character to fight]], not the other way around.
** For that matter, most people don't know that Mickey was an {{Expy}} of Oswald...but even fewer know that Oswald himself was an Expy of Julius the Cat from the Disney's ''AliceComedies'', ''WesternAnimation/AliceComedies'', who was himself a CaptainErsatz of WesternAnimation/FelixTheCat.
27th Aug '17 1:05:24 PM elenaisabel722
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* On ''WesternAnimation/MarvelsSpiderMan'' , Gwen Stacy's debut may have people surprised at what a [[AcademicAlphaBitch stuck-up, less-than-kind attitude]] she has. However, this is actually Gwen's attitude when she originally debuted in the comics, and [[CharacterizationMarchesOn the characterization changed and was subsequently forgotten about over the years.]]
15th Aug '17 3:38:17 PM ading
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* Here's one: ThePollyanna type in a place that is quite clearly {{Hell}}, run by a creature that is quite clearly {{Satan}}, who acts as a CorruptCorporateExecutive. No, not ''WesternAnimation/JimmyTwoShoes'', but an earlier show called ''TheBaskervilles''.
6th Jul '17 3:55:53 PM theladyfromplanetx
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** ''Jem'' is also the title of a 1980 Frederik Pohl novel.
22nd Jun '17 12:14:02 PM Pichu-kun
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** For that matter, most people don't know that Mickey was an {{Expy}} of Oswald...but even fewer know that Oswald himself was an Expy of Julius the Cat from the Disney's AliceComedies, who was himself a CaptainErsatz of WesternAnimation/FelixTheCat.

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** For that matter, most people don't know that Mickey was an {{Expy}} of Oswald...but even fewer know that Oswald himself was an Expy of Julius the Cat from the Disney's AliceComedies, ''AliceComedies'', who was himself a CaptainErsatz of WesternAnimation/FelixTheCat.



* The voices in ''WesternAnimation/TheArchieShow'' were cast to emulate the voice from the 1940s radio shows.

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* The voices in ''WesternAnimation/TheArchieShow'' were cast to emulate the voice from the 1940s ''Archie'' radio shows.



** Speaking of Creator/CartoonNetwork, it has recently become common to blame network CEO Christina Miller for the poor performance of its more "serious" action-based cartoons, with many viewers even accusing her of subscribing to the AnimationAgeGhetto. But this problem actually dates back several years earlier, with ''WesternAnimation/GreenLanternTheAnimatedSeries'', ''WesternAnimation/YoungJustice'', and ''WesternAnimation/SymBionicTitan'' all being cancelled in a short period of time before Miller arrived.

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** * Speaking of Creator/CartoonNetwork, it has recently become common to blame network CEO Christina Miller for the poor performance of its more "serious" action-based cartoons, with many viewers even accusing her of subscribing to the AnimationAgeGhetto. But this problem actually dates back several years earlier, with ''WesternAnimation/GreenLanternTheAnimatedSeries'', ''WesternAnimation/YoungJustice'', and ''WesternAnimation/SymBionicTitan'' all being cancelled in a short period of time before Miller arrived.



* Regardless of what the show's fans would like to believe, the Misfits were originally a horror-themed punk band from New Jersey formed in 1977, NOT an original creation as a fictonal band in ''Jem''. The band was obscure at the time and had split up 2 years prior to the cartoon's creation so it was unlikely anyone involved knew of them at the time, but when the band themselves tried to prevent Hasbro from using the name, Hasbro chose to go ahead regardless due to "legal loopholes" involving trademarks. Then former frontman Glenn Danzig gave his approval when he learned of it, no doubt due to his anger with the rest of the band at the time. While the band themselves have not taken any legal action to this day, Jerry Only and the rest of the band refuse to publicly acknowledge the cartoon even exists and will not answer questions concerning their thoughts on it(perhaps to avoid giving the series any attention at all). ''Jem'' fans likewise tend to get angry when it's mentioned, believing the band has no right to complain(and yes, I shall point out the irony in anger over copied names, what with Jem having been the name of a character in Harper Lee's ''To Kill A Mockingbird'' some 20 years prior).

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* Regardless of what the show's fans would like to believe, the Misfits were originally [[NamesTheSame originally]] a horror-themed punk band from New Jersey formed in 1977, NOT an original creation as a fictonal band in ''Jem''.''WesternAnimation/{{Jem}}''. The band was obscure at the time and had split up 2 years prior to the cartoon's creation so it was unlikely anyone involved knew of them at the time, but when the band themselves tried to prevent Hasbro from using the name, Hasbro chose to go ahead regardless due to "legal loopholes" involving trademarks. Then former frontman Glenn Danzig gave his approval when he learned of it, no doubt due to his anger with the rest of the band at the time. While the band themselves have not taken any legal action to this day, Jerry Only and the rest of the band refuse to publicly acknowledge the cartoon even exists and will not answer questions concerning their thoughts on it(perhaps it (perhaps to avoid giving the series any attention at all). ''Jem'' fans likewise tend to get angry when it's mentioned, believing the band has no right to complain(and yes, I we shall point out the irony in anger over copied names, what with Jem having been the name of a character in Harper Lee's ''To Kill A Mockingbird'' some 20 years prior).
17th Jun '17 9:49:36 PM whateveryousay21
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* Regardless of what the show's fans would like to believe, the Misfits were originally a horror-themed punk band from New Jersey formed in 1977, NOT an original creation as a fictonal band in ''Jem''. The band was obscure at the time and had split up 2 years prior to the cartoon's creation so it was unlikely anyone involved knew of them at the time, but when the band themselves tried to prevent Hasbro from using the name, Hasbro chose to go ahead regardless due to "legal loopholes" involving trademarks. Then former frontman Glenn Danzig gave his approval when he learned of it, no doubt due to his anger with the rest of the band at the time. While the band themselves have not taken any legal action to this day, Jerry Only and the rest of the band refuse to publicly acknowledge the cartoon even exists and will not answer questions concerning their thoughts on it(perhaps to avoid giving the series any attention at all). ''Jem'' fans likewise tend to get angry when it's mentioned, believing the band has no right to complain(and yes, I shall point out the irony in anger over copied names, what with Jem having been the name of a character in Harper Lee's ''To Kill A Mockingbird'' some 20 years prior).
6th May '17 4:56:27 PM nombretomado
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* The triangular CoolShades worn by Soundwave and Prowl of ''TransformersAnimated'' are often mistaken to be a ShoutOut to the [[MemeticMutation famous]] ones worn by Kamina of ''Anime/TengenToppaGurrenLagann'', but [[WordOfGod Derrick J. Wyatt]] said they were actually a reference to the much older ''ComicBook/ABCWarriors'' of ''2000 AD'' fame. They were also worn by several other characters before Kamina, including [[ComicStrip/CalvinAndHobbes Calvin]] (in one strip) and Ash's [[Anime/{{Pokemon}} Squirtle]]. Many also thought the ''Lagann'' had some influence on the Headmaster design (both are robots that could become the head of another mecha to boost its power). However, besides the idea of a robot becoming a Transformer's head dating back to [[TransformersGenerationOne G1]], Wyatt stated that he'd never seen ''Gurren Lagann'' until after the first season was already done with production (though he stated that if he ''had'' seen it before, the design would probably have stubby legs and let Masterson poke his head out the top).

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* The triangular CoolShades worn by Soundwave and Prowl of ''TransformersAnimated'' ''WesternAnimation/TransformersAnimated'' are often mistaken to be a ShoutOut to the [[MemeticMutation famous]] ones worn by Kamina of ''Anime/TengenToppaGurrenLagann'', but [[WordOfGod Derrick J. Wyatt]] said they were actually a reference to the much older ''ComicBook/ABCWarriors'' of ''2000 AD'' fame. They were also worn by several other characters before Kamina, including [[ComicStrip/CalvinAndHobbes Calvin]] (in one strip) and Ash's [[Anime/{{Pokemon}} Squirtle]]. Many also thought the ''Lagann'' had some influence on the Headmaster design (both are robots that could become the head of another mecha to boost its power). However, besides the idea of a robot becoming a Transformer's head dating back to [[TransformersGenerationOne [[Franchise/TransformersGenerationOne G1]], Wyatt stated that he'd never seen ''Gurren Lagann'' until after the first season was already done with production (though he stated that if he ''had'' seen it before, the design would probably have stubby legs and let Masterson poke his head out the top).
13th Apr '17 5:31:17 PM nombretomado
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* A lot of Internet commentators accused the ''WesternAnimation/GravityFalls'' short "Hidebehind" of ripping off the SlenderManMythos-- being apparently unaware that the Hidebehind is a much older folkloric creature.

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* A lot of Internet commentators accused the ''WesternAnimation/GravityFalls'' short "Hidebehind" of ripping off the SlenderManMythos-- Franchise/TheSlenderManMythos -- being apparently unaware that the Hidebehind is a much older folkloric creature.
19th Mar '17 11:55:39 AM nombretomado
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* Spoofed in the "Springfield Shopper" booklet that comes with the ''Simpsons Movie'' DVD; in it, Homer (as a movie critic who's ''way'' behind with his column) describes ''Star Wars'' (by which he means ''ANewHope'') as being "a parody of ''Film/{{Spaceballs}}''".

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* Spoofed in the "Springfield Shopper" booklet that comes with the ''Simpsons Movie'' DVD; in it, Homer (as a movie critic who's ''way'' behind with his column) describes ''Star Wars'' (by which he means ''ANewHope'') ''Film/ANewHope'') as being "a parody of ''Film/{{Spaceballs}}''".
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