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** Also, [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eDaSvRO9xA "Four Yorkshiremen"]] did not originate with Monty Python. It was from ''At Last the 1948 Show'', and the original performers were John Cleese, Graham Chapman, [[TheGoodies Tim Brooke-Taylor]], and Marty Feldman.
*** [[TheGoodies Tim Brooke-Taylor]] has said that people refuse to believe he co-wrote the sketch.

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** Also, [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eDaSvRO9xA "Four Yorkshiremen"]] did not originate with Monty Python. It was from ''At Last the 1948 Show'', and the original performers were John Cleese, Graham Chapman, [[TheGoodies [[Series/TheGoodies Tim Brooke-Taylor]], and Marty Feldman.
*** [[TheGoodies [[Series/TheGoodies Tim Brooke-Taylor]] has said that people refuse to believe he co-wrote the sketch.
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* Warp drive: already occurs in Fredric Borwn's stories from the 1940s (the warp/fabric image of space-time probably dates back even earlier, from the first efforts to explain relativity to people who don't know about tensors).

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* Warp drive: already occurs in Fredric Borwn's FredricBrown's stories from the 1940s (the warp/fabric image of space-time probably dates back even earlier, from the first efforts to explain relativity to people who don't know about tensors).
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* Warp drive: already occurs in Fredric Borwn's stories from the 1940s (the warp/fabric image of space-time probably dates back even earlier, from the first efforts to explain relativity to people who don't know about tensors).
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**Of course, the old Cybermen didn't act particularly stereotypically robotic (after dropping their ''bizarre'' random-word-emphasis early RoboSpeak) and weren't ''always'' trying to assimilate people. The new series version are the Borg in all but name, and assimilation is their ''reason for being''.


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**Similarly, if you saw ''MaskedRider'' and thought it was a ''PowerRangers'' ripoff, you should know that ''KamenRider'' is about two or three years older than ''SuperSentai''. Undoubtedly its debut was met with the usual cynicism: "Oh, so they took ''KamenRider,'' made some stupid ripoff where there's [[FiveManBand five of them]] in [[ColourCodedForYourConvenience silly rainbow colors]] so they can [[MerchandiseDriven sell more toys]], then made it LighterAndSofter so kids will watch? {{Toku}} is RuinedFOREVER! ItWillNeverCatchOn!"
**Similarly, calling ''any'' HenshinHero related property a ripoff of PR, as if the {{Toku}} genre wasn't, well, a genre (and as if we haven't been hearing [[CaptainMarvel the word "Shazam!"]] since TheForties.)
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* Here's a good one: Jon Stewart occasionally does a nasally, weasely voice on TheDailyShow that many young viewers associate with his show (for an in-television example, Britta Perry does so on an episode of {{Community}}). However, older viewers will recognize it as a reference to a [[TheTonightShow Johnny Carson]] voice / character, one that Johnny often went to when a joke fell flat ("Whoa, bomb-o!"). But here's the kicker, even older viewers will know that Johnny's voice was originally a reference to [[TheHoneymooners Jackie Gleason's]] Reginald Van Gleason III character ("Mmmboy are you fat!", as mentioned in an episode of the Sopranos).

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* Here's a good one: Jon Stewart occasionally does a nasally, weasely voice on TheDailyShow that many young viewers associate with his show (for an in-television example, Britta Perry does so on an episode of {{Community}}). However, older viewers will recognize it as a reference to a [[TheTonightShow Johnny Carson]] voice / character, one that Johnny often went to when a joke fell flat ("Whoa, bomb-o!"). But here's the kicker, even older viewers will know that Johnny's voice was originally a reference to [[TheHoneymooners Jackie Gleason's]] Reginald Van Gleason III character ("Mmmboy are you fat!", as mentioned in an episode of the Sopranos).Sopranos).
* Everybody knows about the "Dick in a Box" sketch on ''SaturdayNightLive'', right? Well, ''TheDrewCareyShow'' episode "The Dog and Pony Show" [[http://youtu.be/S75TA5qWl20 did the same thing]] almost a decade prior.
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** Similarly, some Power Rangers fans who later discover Super Sentai accuse the latter of being ripoffs of the former.
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* Rod Serling wrote the [[TheTwilightZone Twilight Zone]] episode "The Silence" without knowing that it was virtually the same story as Chekov's "The Bet". (I know that Wikipedia says otherwise, but [[SarcasmMode we all know how reliable they can be]]. There is an interview with Serling in the DVD materials for the series DVD set in which he explicitly explains all about it.)
* For those who may not be aware, [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ghost_Busters The Ghost Busters]] came almost a full decade before {{Ghostbusters}}. Similarly, the [[FilmationsGhostbusters cartoon version of the 1975 live action show]] debuted before TheRealGhostbusters (if only by a few days).

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* Rod Serling wrote the [[TheTwilightZone Twilight Zone]] ''TwilightZone'' episode "The Silence" without knowing that it was virtually the same story as Chekov's "The Bet". (I know that Wikipedia says otherwise, but [[SarcasmMode we all know how reliable they can be]]. There is an interview with Serling in the DVD materials for the series DVD set in which he explicitly explains all about it.)
* For those who may not be aware, [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ghost_Busters The Ghost Busters]] came almost a full decade before {{Ghostbusters}}. Similarly, the [[FilmationsGhostbusters [[WesternAnimation/FilmationsGhostbusters cartoon version of the 1975 live action show]] debuted before TheRealGhostbusters ''TheRealGhostbusters'' (if only by a few days).
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*** [[OlderThanDirt It probably dates back to the first guards who had to deal with prisoners resisting being taken into custody]].
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* Dr. [=McCoy=]'s famous line [[{{ptitletzsppi6i}} "I'm a doctor, not a _____!"]] from ''StarTrek'' actually originates in the 1933 film '' The Kennel Murder Case'', where a coroner insists repeatedly "I'm a doctor, not a ____!" (reporter, detective, etc.).
** Similarly, the Borg's famous line "Resistance is futile" was used earlier in Series/DoctorWho, LostInSpace, and probably other sci-fi. (The variant "Resistance is useless" was used by the Vogon guard in ''[=~The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy~=]''.)

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* Dr. [=McCoy=]'s famous line [[{{ptitletzsppi6i}} [[ImADoctorNotAPlaceholder "I'm a doctor, not a _____!"]] from ''StarTrek'' actually originates in the 1933 film '' The Kennel Murder Case'', where a coroner insists repeatedly "I'm a doctor, not a ____!" (reporter, detective, etc.).
** Similarly, the Borg's famous line "Resistance is futile" was used earlier in Series/DoctorWho, LostInSpace, and probably other sci-fi. (The variant "Resistance is useless" was used by the Vogon guard in ''[=~The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy~=]''.''TheHitchhikersGuideToTheGalaxy''.)



* In 1969, a new comedy sketch show debuted that completely tore apart the format of traditional sketch comedy, replacing conventional sketches with sketches that simply stopped mid flow, sketches that ran into each other and a whole lot of silliness. It is, of course, SpikeMilligan's Q series which preceeded ''[=~Monty Python's Flying Circus~=]'' by a few months. (To be fair, the Monty Python team were working on their show at roughly the same time).

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* In 1969, a new comedy sketch show debuted that completely tore apart the format of traditional sketch comedy, replacing conventional sketches with sketches that simply stopped mid flow, sketches that ran into each other and a whole lot of silliness. It is, of course, SpikeMilligan's Q series which preceeded ''[=~Monty Python's Flying Circus~=]'' ''MontyPythonsFlyingCircus'' by a few months. (To be fair, the Monty Python team were working on their show at roughly the same time).
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*** Spock is half human on his mother's side (Amanda Grayson). Though it's never canonically established that there's a bloodline connection from Sir Arthur Conan Doyle through one of his five children to Grayson.
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I didn\'t realise that The Tenth Planet was made in 1960/61.


** Even more hilarious since Kit Pedler's original idea, and in fact the first Cybermen story predates ''the entire Star Trek franchise'' by five years
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** Similarly, the Borg's famous line "Resistance is futile" was used earlier in DoctorWho, LostInSpace, and probably other sci-fi. (The variant "Resistance is useless" was used by the Vogon guard in ''[=~The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy~=]''.)

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** Similarly, the Borg's famous line "Resistance is futile" was used earlier in DoctorWho, Series/DoctorWho, LostInSpace, and probably other sci-fi. (The variant "Resistance is useless" was used by the Vogon guard in ''[=~The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy~=]''.)



* The reintroduction of the Cybermen in the new ''DoctorWho'' story "Rise of the Cybermen" prompted some claims that the monsters were a rip-off of ''StarTrek'''s Borg -- in fact, ''DoctorWho'' fans had been making exactly the opposite claim ever since the Borg were first introduced, almost a quarter century after the Cybermen first appeared.

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* The reintroduction of the Cybermen in the new ''DoctorWho'' ''Series/DoctorWho'' story "Rise of the Cybermen" prompted some claims that the monsters were a rip-off of ''StarTrek'''s Borg -- in fact, ''DoctorWho'' ''Series/DoctorWho'' fans had been making exactly the opposite claim ever since the Borg were first introduced, almost a quarter century after the Cybermen first appeared.



* The concept of a virtual reality called "The Matrix" was first used in ''{{Doctor Who}}'' in the 1976 serial "The Deadly Assassin", twenty three years before its better-known movie namesake.

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* The concept of a virtual reality called "The Matrix" was first used in ''{{Doctor ''Series/{{Doctor Who}}'' in the 1976 serial "The Deadly Assassin", twenty three years before its better-known movie namesake.



* ''DoctorWho'' gets this a ''lot'', in-fandom, when new series fans gush over the genius of some ideas and concepts without realising many of then existed in the old series. So horror elements written by Robert Holmes (half of which he stole from old horror movies anyway) and later reused by Russell T. Davies or Steven Moffat are seen as their "genius". Even if the writers have themselves fequently mentioned that some of these elements are tributes to the writers whose stories they grew up with. Of course, the most extreme example of this is when new series fans preface their fanfics [[FanDumb with "Doctor Who belongs to Russell T. Davies and/or Steven Moffat"...]]

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* ''DoctorWho'' ''Series/DoctorWho'' gets this a ''lot'', in-fandom, when new series fans gush over the genius of some ideas and concepts without realising many of then existed in the old series. So horror elements written by Robert Holmes (half of which he stole from old horror movies anyway) and later reused by Russell T. Davies or Steven Moffat are seen as their "genius". Even if the writers have themselves fequently mentioned that some of these elements are tributes to the writers whose stories they grew up with. Of course, the most extreme example of this is when new series fans preface their fanfics [[FanDumb with "Doctor Who belongs to Russell T. Davies and/or Steven Moffat"...]]
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* A beautiful, intellectually unremarkable young woman befriends and comes to rely on a group of brilliant-but-awkward geniuses who work at a university, one of which develops a crush on her. ''TheBigBangTheory'', right? Wrong -- it's a movie called ''BallOfFire'', released in 1941 and starring Gary Cooper and Barbara Stanwyck. It was apparently popular enough to be remade as a musical seven years later and retitled ''A Song Is Born''.

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* A beautiful, intellectually unremarkable young woman befriends and comes to rely on a group of brilliant-but-awkward geniuses who work at a university, one of which develops a crush on her. ''TheBigBangTheory'', right? Wrong -- it's a movie called ''BallOfFire'', released in 1941 and starring Gary Cooper and Barbara Stanwyck. It was apparently popular enough to be remade as a musical seven years later and retitled ''A Song Is Born''.
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* A beautiful, intellectually unremarkable young woman befriends and comes to rely on a group of brilliant-but-awkward geniuses who work at a university, one of which develops a crush on her. ''TheBigBangTheory'', right? Wrong -- it's a movie called ''[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ball_of_Fire Ball of Fire]]'', released in 1941 and starring Gary Cooper and Barbara Stanwyck. It was apparently popular enough to be remade as a musical seven years later and retitled ''A Song Is Born''.

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* A beautiful, intellectually unremarkable young woman befriends and comes to rely on a group of brilliant-but-awkward geniuses who work at a university, one of which develops a crush on her. ''TheBigBangTheory'', right? Wrong -- it's a movie called ''[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ball_of_Fire Ball of Fire]]'', ''BallOfFire'', released in 1941 and starring Gary Cooper and Barbara Stanwyck. It was apparently popular enough to be remade as a musical seven years later and retitled ''A Song Is Born''.
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* Doctor Who gets this a ''lot'', in-fandom, when new series fans gush over the genius of some ideas and concepts without realising many of then existed in the old series. So horror elements written by Robert Holmes (half of which he stole from old horror movies anyway) and later reused by Russell T. Davies or Steven Moffat are seen as their "genius". Even if the writers have themselves fequently mentioned that some of these elements are tributes to the writers whose stories they grew up with. Of course, the most extreme example of this is when new series fans preface their fanfics [[FanDumb with "Doctor Who belongs to Russell T. Davies and/or Steven Moffat"...]]

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* Doctor Who ''DoctorWho'' gets this a ''lot'', in-fandom, when new series fans gush over the genius of some ideas and concepts without realising many of then existed in the old series. So horror elements written by Robert Holmes (half of which he stole from old horror movies anyway) and later reused by Russell T. Davies or Steven Moffat are seen as their "genius". Even if the writers have themselves fequently mentioned that some of these elements are tributes to the writers whose stories they grew up with. Of course, the most extreme example of this is when new series fans preface their fanfics [[FanDumb with "Doctor Who belongs to Russell T. Davies and/or Steven Moffat"...]]]]
** The inverse is also true; if you want to base your criticism of some plot point on the claim that nothing like it would ever have happened in the original series, you'd better make ''damn'' sure it didn't.
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* With the ''VampireDiaries'' TV adaptation airing in the midst of the ''{{Twilight}}''-craze, many [[FanDumb twitards]] believed ''Vampire Diaries'' stole most of its elements from ''Twilight''. The ''Vampire Diaries'' books were made in the nineties.

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* With the ''VampireDiaries'' TV adaptation airing in the midst of the ''{{Twilight}}''-craze, ''Literature/{{Twilight}}''-craze, many [[FanDumb twitards]] believed ''Vampire Diaries'' stole most of its elements from ''Twilight''. The ''Vampire Diaries'' books were made in the nineties.
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* The practice of following an episode with a preview that shows clips from the next episode didn't start in the '80s or '90s. Some film serials did the same thing at least as far back as the '40s.

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*** Khan uses several ''Moby Dick'' lines in the film. However, this is telegraphed at the beginning, when Chekov and Terrill are searching the shelter on Ceti Alpha 5. One of the books on the shelf is ''Moby Dick''. Note also that Cetus is the constellation of the whale.

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*** Khan uses several ''Moby Dick'' lines in the film. However, this is telegraphed at intended as him consciously quoting the beginning, book. He sees himself as analogous to Ahab, a great man injured by an monster (Kirk) who has dedicated his life to the death of said monster. A copy of which is seen earlier in the film when Chekov and Terrill are searching the shelter on Ceti Alpha 5. One of Literary allusions are nothing new to the books on the shelf is ''Moby Dick''. character, in his original appearance he quotes Milton.
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* When the Canadian show ''Ed's Late Night Party'' aired for a short time in the US on G4, many viewers criticized Ed the Sock for ripping off [[ConanOBrien Triumph the Insult Comic Dog.]] Ed the Sock had actually been around on various Canadian programs since the early-90's and was possibly an inspiration for Triumph.

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* When the Canadian show ''Ed's Late Night Party'' aired for a short time in the US on G4, many viewers criticized Ed the Sock for ripping off [[ConanOBrien Triumph the Insult Comic Dog.]] Ed the Sock had actually been around on various Canadian programs since the early-90's and was possibly an inspiration for Triumph. This led to Ed resenting Triumph, and NBC insisting that the character shouldn't be anywhere near Conan's show when it taped a few episode in Toronto.
**Ed the Sock was scheduled to appear on ConanOBrien but cancelled at the last minute. Three months later Triumph appeared on the show. When Conan
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* Twi-Tards commonly think that the idea of a vampire sneaking into a girl's room at night and watching her, stalking her and generally being a creepy old dude that happens to look 20 and is seen as extremely romantic is an original idea. It's really just ripped off from BuffyTheVampireSlayer. Angel did the exact same thing, only he was badass and later became evil and CrazyAwesome. So, even when ripping off good things, Twilight is still shit. Amazing.
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* Another example from ''StarTrek'': the [[MemeticHandGesture Vulcan salute]], and its accompanying farewells, "Peace and long life" and "Live long and prosper", are both derived from Jewish benediction services.



* Here's a good one: Jon Stewart occasionally does a nasally, weasely voice on TheDailyShow that many young viewers associate with his show (for an in-television example, Britta Perry does so on an episode of {{Community}}). However, older viewers will recognize it as a reference to a [[TheTonightShow Johnny Carson]] voice / character, one that Johnny often went to when a joke fell flat ("Whoa, bomb-o!"). But here's the kicker, even older viewers will know that Johnny's voice was originally a reference to [[TheHoneymooners Jackie Gleason's]] Reginald Van Gleason III character ("Mmmboy are you fat!", as mentioned in an episode of the Sopranos).
* Another example from ''StarTrek'': the [[MemeticHandGesture Vulcan salute]], and its accompanying farewells, "Peace and long life" and "Live long and prosper", are both derived from Jewish benediction services.

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* Here's a good one: Jon Stewart occasionally does a nasally, weasely voice on TheDailyShow that many young viewers associate with his show (for an in-television example, Britta Perry does so on an episode of {{Community}}). However, older viewers will recognize it as a reference to a [[TheTonightShow Johnny Carson]] voice / character, one that Johnny often went to when a joke fell flat ("Whoa, bomb-o!"). But here's the kicker, even older viewers will know that Johnny's voice was originally a reference to [[TheHoneymooners Jackie Gleason's]] Reginald Van Gleason III character ("Mmmboy are you fat!", as mentioned in an episode of the Sopranos).
* Another example from ''StarTrek'': the [[MemeticHandGesture Vulcan salute]], and its accompanying farewells, "Peace and long life" and "Live long and prosper", are both derived from Jewish benediction services.
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* Here's a good one: Jon Stewart occasionally does a nasally, weasely voice on TheDailyShow that many young viewers associate with his show (for an in-television example, Britta Perry does so on an episode of {{Community}}). However, older viewers will recognize it as a reference to a [[TheTonightShow Johnny Carson]] voice / character, one that Johnny often went to when a joke fell flat ("Whoa, bomb-o!"). But here's the kicker, even older viewers will know that Johnny's voice was originally a reference to [[TheHoneymooners Jackie Gleason's]] Reginald Van Gleason III character ("Mmmboy are you fat!", as mentioned in an episode of the Sopranos).

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* Here's a good one: Jon Stewart occasionally does a nasally, weasely voice on TheDailyShow that many young viewers associate with his show (for an in-television example, Britta Perry does so on an episode of {{Community}}). However, older viewers will recognize it as a reference to a [[TheTonightShow Johnny Carson]] voice / character, one that Johnny often went to when a joke fell flat ("Whoa, bomb-o!"). But here's the kicker, even older viewers will know that Johnny's voice was originally a reference to [[TheHoneymooners Jackie Gleason's]] Reginald Van Gleason III character ("Mmmboy are you fat!", as mentioned in an episode of the Sopranos).Sopranos).
* Another example from ''StarTrek'': the [[MemeticHandGesture Vulcan salute]], and its accompanying farewells, "Peace and long life" and "Live long and prosper", are both derived from Jewish benediction services.
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* Here's a good one: Jon Stewart occasionally does a nasally, weasely voice on TheDailyShow that many young viewers associate with his show (for an in-television example, Britta Perry does so on an episode of {{Community}}). However, older viewers will recognize it as a reference to a [[TheTonightShow Johnny Carson]] voice / character, one that Johnny often went to when a joke fell flat ("Whoa, bomb-o!"). But here's the kicker, even older viewers will know that Johnny's voice was originally a reference to [[TheHoneymooners Jackie Gleason's]] Reginald Van Gleason III character ("Mmmboy are you fat!", as mentioned in an episode of the Sopranos).
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* Doctor Who gets this a ''lot'', in-fandom, when new series fans gush over the genius of some ideas and concepts without realising many of then existed in the old series. So horror elements written by Robert Holmes (half of which he stole from old horror movies anyway) and later reused by Russell T. Davies or Steven Moffat are seen as their "genius". Even if the writers have themselves fequently mentioned that some of these elements are tributes to the writers whose stories they grew up with. Of course, the most extreme example of this is when new series fans preface their fanfics [[FanDumb with "Doctor Who belongs to Russell T. Davies and/or Steven Moffat"...]]
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*** No, WWII British civil defence was the 'Home Guard'. In B5, the Home Guard was an anti-alien organisation without official support.
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* When the series premiere of ''[[Series/TheWalkingDead The Walking Dead]]'' first aired, some viewers immediately accused the show of ripping off the "protagonist wakes up in a hospital after a post-apocalyptic event" scene from ''[[TwentyEightDaysLater 28 Days Later]]''. In fact, not only did the comic book series show this scene a full seven months before ''28 Days'' premiered in theatres, but both of those films copied it from ''TheDayOfTheTriffids'', which was written in 1951 (more than 50 years before either of the two works in questions).

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* When the series premiere of ''[[Series/TheWalkingDead The Walking Dead]]'' first aired, some viewers immediately accused the show of ripping off the "protagonist wakes up in a hospital after a post-apocalyptic event" scene from ''[[TwentyEightDaysLater 28 Days Later]]''. In fact, not only did the comic book series show this scene a full seven months before ''28 Days'' premiered in theatres, but both of those films copied it from ''TheDayOfTheTriffids'', which was written in 1951 (more than 50 years before either of the two works in questions).questions).
* On ''WhoseLineIsItAnyway'', one episode had the "unlikely location for a FilmNoir" be a gas station. It's been done with ''two'' [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiss_Me_Deadly gas]] [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Out_of_the_Past stations.]]
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* In 1969, a new comedy sketch show debuted that completely tore apart the format of traditional sketch comedy, replacing conventional sketches with sketches that simply stopped mid flow, sketches that ran into each other and a whole lot of silliness. It is, of course, Spike Milligan's Q series which preceeded ''[=~Monty Python's Flying Circus~=]'' by a few months. (To be fair, the Monty Python team were working on their show at roughly the same time).

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* In 1969, a new comedy sketch show debuted that completely tore apart the format of traditional sketch comedy, replacing conventional sketches with sketches that simply stopped mid flow, sketches that ran into each other and a whole lot of silliness. It is, of course, Spike Milligan's SpikeMilligan's Q series which preceeded ''[=~Monty Python's Flying Circus~=]'' by a few months. (To be fair, the Monty Python team were working on their show at roughly the same time).

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