History Music / TheRamones

1st Jul '16 1:37:53 AM AceDetective
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** Johnny '''(Phlegmatic)''' - stubborn, domineering, witty and intense

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** Johnny '''(Phlegmatic)''' '''(Supine)''' - stubborn, domineering, witty short-tempered and intense
1st Jul '16 1:32:28 AM AceDetective
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** Johnny '''(Supine)''' - stubborn, domineering, witty and intense

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** Johnny '''(Supine)''' '''(Phlegmatic)''' - stubborn, domineering, witty and intense
1st Jul '16 1:23:27 AM AceDetective
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** Johnny '''(Phlegmatic)''' - stubborn, domineering, loyal and witty

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** Johnny '''(Phlegmatic)''' '''(Supine)''' - stubborn, domineering, loyal and witty and intense



** Dee Dee '''(Supine)''' - shy, impulsive, unstable and wacky
** Marky '''(Melancholic)''' - calm, dependable, stoic, and patient

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** Dee Dee '''(Supine)''' - shy, impulsive, unstable unstable, self-destructive and wacky
** Marky '''(Melancholic)''' - calm, dependable, stoic, reserved, snarky, moody, and patientanxious
23rd Jun '16 4:14:09 PM DocWildNole
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* CatchPhrase: ''ONETWOTHREEFOUR!''

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* CatchPhrase: ''ONETWOTHREEFOUR!''''ONETWOTHREEFOUR!''; "HEY! HO! LET'S GO!"; "Gabba Gabba Hey!""



* IconicOutfit: the biker jackets, as pictured above. In some languages, they're mostly known as "Ramones jackets".

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* IconicOutfit: the biker jackets, as pictured above. In above (In some languages, they're mostly known as "Ramones jackets".jackets") with ripped-at-the-knees jeans and sneakers, preferably either Chuck Taylors or Keds (at the time, both still American brands).



* LimitedWardrobe: Their stage attire varied even less than their music.

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* LimitedWardrobe: Their stage attire varied even less than their music. Total costume changes were first Tommy/Marky/Ritchie, then Johnny & DeeDee/CJ, taking off the jackets.
23rd Jun '16 7:58:52 AM AceDetective
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* FourPhilosophyEnsemble: Johnny was the Cynic, Joey was the Optimist, Dee Dee was the Apathetic and Marky is the Realist.

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* FourPhilosophyEnsemble: Johnny was the Cynic, Joey Dee Dee was the Optimist, Dee Dee Joey was the Apathetic and Marky is the Realist.
23rd Jun '16 7:50:41 AM AceDetective
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** Johnny '''(Phlegmatic)''' - conservative, stubborn, controlling and surly

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** Johnny '''(Phlegmatic)''' - conservative, stubborn, controlling domineering, loyal and surly witty



** Dee Dee '''(Supine)''' - shy, impulsive, unstable and short-tempered

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** Dee Dee '''(Supine)''' - shy, impulsive, unstable and short-temperedwacky
19th Jun '16 9:18:22 AM wyattte
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* 1994 - ''Acid Eaters''

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* 1994 - ''Acid Eaters''Eaters'' (covers album)



* 1997 - ''We're Outta Here!''

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* 1997 - ''We're Outta Here!''Here!'' (documenting their final show)



* SunglassesAtNight: Joey Ramone's sunglasses seemed to actually be ''part'' of his face since it was incredibly rare that he'd take them off.



* SunglassesAtNight: Joey Ramone's sunglasses seemed to actually be ''part'' of his face since it was incredibly rare that he'd take them off.


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* TitleTrack: ''Too Tough To Die'' and ''Animal Boy'' both had these.
19th Jun '16 8:59:56 AM wyattte
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'''The Ramones''', an American rock band first formed in 1974, are widely regarded as the first PunkRock band.

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'''The Ramones''', an American rock band first formed in 1974, are widely regarded as the first PunkRock band.
band, and could even be considered something of a turning point in rock history.



In an all too [[BittersweetEnding bittersweet way]], the band are now arguably [[VindicatedByHistory far more famous and are given more credit now than when they ever were performing]], and after [[DeadArtistsAreBetter all of the founding members have died]].

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In an all too [[BittersweetEnding bittersweet way]], The Ramones formed in [[BigApplesauce Queens,]] UsefulNotes/NewYorkCity. The earliest incarnation of the band are had Johnny Ramone (John Cummings) on guitar, Joey Ramone (Jeffry Ross Hyman) on drums and Dee Dee Ramone (Douglas Colvin) on vocals. When Dee Dee's young vocals proved unable to sustain live performances, they switched, with Dee Dee sticking to backup vocals and mostly concentrating on bass, and Joey assuming lead vocals. The band still needed a drummer, and after manager Thomas Erdelyi had trouble finding a proper drummer, he assumed the duties himself, dubbing himself Tommy Ramone.

The band debuted in 1974, playing at various clubs around NYC, most notably CBGB's, which became famous for being a showcase for the budding PunkRock movement. They recorded their first album, ''Music/{{Ramones}}'', in 1976 on the low budget of $6400, and while the record wasn't a commercial smash or anything - in fact, at their first performance outside New York, in Youngstown, Ohio, about ten people showed up - it was a further catalyst for the punk scene and got glowing reviews from critics. They were further vindicated when they proved to be more popular in the UK, most notably influencing bands like the Music/SexPistols and Music/TheClash, and playing career defining gigs second-billed to the Flamin' Groovies.

Two further albums, ''Music/LeaveHome'' and ''Music/RocketToRussia,'' followed in 1977. While the former did even worse than the debut, ''Rocket To Russia'' was their best seller to date, hitting #49, and the single "Rockaway Beach" hit #66 - the highest charting single the band would ever have. By this time, Tommy stepped down as drummer for good, but remained friends with the band and would go on to produce for them. His replacement was Marc Bell, aka Marky Ramone, who recorded 1978's ''Music/RoadToRuin'' with the band.

After the band made a guest appearance in Creator/RogerCorman's cult movie Film/RockAndRollHighSchool, the band got in touch with famous 1960s pop producer Phil Spector in 1980, to create an attempt at a breakthrough album, ''Music/EndOfTheCentury.'' The sessions were fraught with tension between the band (who were always the 'get in, get out' types) and Spector (a notoriously meticulous ControlFreak). At one point in the recordings, Spector pulled a gun on Johnny and forced him to play the same riff over a hundred times. The sessions did pay off in an album that charted at #44, their highest charting album ever, but it's got a mixed reputation, among fans and the band itself, for presenting a [[LighterAndSofter slicker, poppier Ramones.]] Oddly enough, their cover of "Baby I Love You" did huge business in the UK.

The band soldiered on with a few more pop crossover attempts, with relationships in the band straining further. Most notably, around the early 80s, Johnny stole Joey's girlfriend, Linda, which Joey never got over for many years, and they rarely spoke to each other since. Despite this, the band never slowed down, still playing hundreds of concerts a year. Marky, who was abusing alcohol, got fired from the band and replaced with Richard Reinhardt[=/=]Richie Ramone, who debuted on the 1984 album ''Too Tough To Die,'' a more rock-oriented album featuring Tommy Ramone behind the boards alongside old school Ramones producer Ed Stasium.

Despite this, ''Animal Boy'' was one last grab at a pop crossover. Richie left in 1987 after the release of ''Halfway To Sanity,'' upset that he wasn't given a share of the t-shirt sales after years with the band. Luckily, Marky was newly sober, and returned to the band, just in time for longtime bassist and songwriter Dee Dee Ramone to leave the band in a miserable haze of addictions and an eating disorder. Dee Dee still continued to contribute songs to the band, however, but he embarked on an infamous series of odd career moves, including putting out ''rap music'' under the name Dee Dee King, and briefly performing with shock rocker Music/GGAllin. Dee Dee was officially replaced by CJ Ramone, who the band later credited as giving the band youthful energy again.

The band reunited again with producer Ed Stasium and released ''Mondo Bizarro,'' which did huge in Brazil, but the band were embittered by this point of never breaking through in America. By 1995's ''¡Adiós Amigos!'', they declared they were hanging it up unless the album did huge numbers (again, it didn't), but nonetheless they embarked on the longest farewell tour in the history of rock & roll, going over two years and spawning two live albums. Their last show was in UsefulNotes/LosAngeles, in August of 1996, after which the band unceremoniously went their separate ways.

Joey passed away in 2001 from lymphoma, in New York. In early 2002, the band was inducted into the Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame, where Tommy mentioned in the midst of their speeches that while it meant a lot to them, it "meant everything to [[DueToTheDead Joey]]." Two months after, Dee Dee Ramone was dead of a heroin overdose, and two years later, prostate cancer claimed the life of Johnny. In 2014, the last original member, Tommy, succumbed to bile duct cancer.

One of the more tragic aftereffects of the band, is that they're
now arguably [[VindicatedByHistory far more famous and are given more credit now than when they ever were performing]], and after [[DeadArtistsAreBetter all of the founding members have died]].died]]. Their legacy lives on through the enduring influence of their own music as well as punk rock itself, plus one of the most iconic logos in rock history. (You've seen the shirts.)
15th Jun '16 12:03:17 PM Nick7689
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* SunglassesAtNight: Joey Ramone's sunglasses seemed to actually be ''part'' of his face since it was incredibly rare that he'd take them off.
13th Jun '16 12:45:37 PM Nick7689
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* LargeAndInCharge: Joey Ramone was the leader of the band and stood at 6'5.
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