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19th Jun '13 1:32:12 AM VenomousBlaze

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* FollowTheLeader: Many other J-rock bands who were part of the second wave of VK have tried copying their formula, including those who worked under [[ThePeteBest former bassist and leader]] Kisaki's UNDER CODE PRODUCTION label, but none have achieved the same level of success. In fact, many of the bands who worked under Kisaki's wing have broken up or changed styles.
** Some [[HateDumb critics]] have criticized Kyo for ripping off Music/MikePatton's style, but, considering that they're worlds apart, it is better to think that their VocalEvolution occurred independently, with his dynamic singing voice possibly influenced by Ume from Music/TokyoYankees.
** Music/TheGazette, one of the most popular and influential bands in the second wave of Visual kei, has often been the subject of comparison by fans, with a few purists even calling them a [[{{Expy}} rip-off]] of Dir En Grey, mainly because of musical and visual similarities.
** Nagoya kei bands often adopt a formula similar to Dir En Grey's NuMetal releases. The band, however, is not part of the Nagoya scene.
** Music/ExistTrace's melodeath/metalcore releases tend to sound similar to songs off the pre-''Withering To Death'' releases.
** Early in the band's career, Kyo was considered an {{expy}} of Kuroyume vocalist Kiyoharu. Also, Toshiya's Gothic Lolita image was considered by some fans to be inspired by ex-bassist Kisaki.

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* FollowTheLeader: Many other J-rock bands who were part of the second wave of VK have tried copying their formula, including those who worked under [[ThePeteBest former bassist and leader]] Kisaki's UNDER CODE PRODUCTION label, but none have achieved the same level of success. In fact, many of the bands who worked under Kisaki's wing have broken up or changed styles. Those that did achieve success (Music/TheGazette, Music/ExistTrace and Music/{{Girugamesh}}, and a few others) have also established their own image and sound.
** Apparently, this trope was the reason why the band opted for a post-Visual kei image, as Toshiya said in a 2010 interview:
--> "''To be honest, when we first started and we were wearing a lot of makeup on stage and stuff, there were a lot of bands doing that at the time in Japan, and people thought it was cool. But not anymore...The music was so unique, too — bands like X Japan. At that time, there weren’t any two bands that sounded alike; these days everyone sounds exactly the same.''"
** Early in the band's career, the members themselves were clones of other artists: Kyo was considered an {{expy}} of Kuroyume vocalist Kiyoharu. and Toshiya's Gothic Lolita image was considered by some fans to be inspired by ex-bassist Kisaki.

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