History Manga / DGrayMan

18th Jun '17 3:42:57 PM SilverFang
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* AdaptationalVillainy: [[TricksterMentor Cross Marian]] Suffered this in the anime. Manga-wise he was a victim of JerkassFacade at best, or JerkWithAHeartOfGold at worst. Anime-wise however, he's a complete JerkAss. Episode 27: My Master, General Cross is infamous for the villainization of Cross' character -when Allen begins to tell Lenalee tales of how horrible his master is, so she'll know what to expect when they find him. The includes things from Cross that actually contradicted his manga characterization and WordOfGod.

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* AdaptationalVillainy: AdaptationalJerkass: [[TricksterMentor Cross Marian]] Suffered this in the anime. Manga-wise he was a victim of JerkassFacade at best, or JerkWithAHeartOfGold at worst. Anime-wise however, he's a complete JerkAss. Episode 27: My Master, General Cross is infamous for the villainization of Cross' character -when Allen begins to tell Lenalee tales of how horrible his master is, so she'll know what to expect when they find him. The includes things from Cross that actually contradicted his manga characterization and WordOfGod.
14th May '17 8:58:31 PM nombretomado
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** Another possible shout-out to ''{{Trigun}}'' in the Cardinal's Vash-esque glasses and in how the [[spoiler: feathery tendrils of innocence that Allen produces look exactly the same as those produced by Plants]].

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** Another possible shout-out to ''{{Trigun}}'' ''Manga/{{Trigun}}'' in the Cardinal's Vash-esque glasses and in how the [[spoiler: feathery tendrils of innocence that Allen produces look exactly the same as those produced by Plants]].
28th Feb '17 2:05:47 PM SilverFang
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* ConvenientComa: Alma Karma.

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* ConvenientComa: Alma Karma. [[spoiler: Cross Marian, confirmed in chapter 222 of the manga. He appears to Allen to speak with him -the latter being trapped within Nea's subconscious memories. After their talk, we see Road, who had been watching them. She mentions being glad that Allen will go to the mansion that Cross pointed him to, and tells Cross to sleep until then.]]
15th Feb '17 1:26:10 AM SilverFang
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* AdaptationalVillainy: Cross Marian suffers this in the anime. Episode 27: My Master, General Cross is infamous for the villainization of Cross' character -when Allen begins to tell Lenalee tales of how horrible his master is, so she'll know what to expect when they find him. The includes things from Cross that actually contradicted his manga characterization and WordOfGod.
** In the aforementioned episode, Cross is shown forcing Allen into slave labor to make money, whereas in the manga, Allen only gambled to make money. Also, in canon Allen mentioned he only gambled if he and Cross were very broke. But in the episode, Cross forces Allen to gamble and steals his money when he's living off of a rich lover at the time. Allen mentions that his master was lover to a Maharajah's widow because he has a thing for rich women. WordOfGod however, has stated that Cross likes good women, not rich women. We also see Cross telling Allen to bring him a lion, which almost gets Allen killed, in addition to throwing Allen to legions of Akuma without training him. And Allen mentions that given Cross' horrible treatment of him, he battled with depression as a result, only finding happiness with Narain, a friend he met in India.
** Filler episode 25 Allen is shown to have a severe mistrust of all Exorcist Generals -saying that due to his bad experience with Cross, he didn't believe Generals were good people. There was also a scene where Yeegar speaks to Allen about Cross, saying that Cross is the best at destroying Akuma, but that he's not good at human interaction. Neither of these scenes were in the manga, and contradicted the canon of General Yeegar already being dead before Allen and Lenalee are sent to look for Cross.
** Changes were also made to canon scenes where Cross is shown doing things in them that weren't in the manga. Such as the guards dragging Allen out of Cross' room at HQ. In the manga, Cross just watches as Allen is taken away. However in the anime, he smirks and hums mockingly while waving Allen off. In addition to stealing food from a vendor's cart while talking to him, which he wasn't shown doing in the manga.
** Finally there were also expression changes made to Cross' face, where he's shown smirking or scowling in scenes he wasn't in canon. Example includes chapter 206, where Cross is shown sitting with a young Allen, and looking to him with a guilty expression. In the anime, Hallow episode 13, Cross is shown scowling at Allen instead.

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* AdaptationalVillainy: [[TricksterMentor Cross Marian suffers Marian]] Suffered this in the anime.anime. Manga-wise he was a victim of JerkassFacade at best, or JerkWithAHeartOfGold at worst. Anime-wise however, he's a complete JerkAss. Episode 27: My Master, General Cross is infamous for the villainization of Cross' character -when Allen begins to tell Lenalee tales of how horrible his master is, so she'll know what to expect when they find him. The includes things from Cross that actually contradicted his manga characterization and WordOfGod.
** In the aforementioned episode, Cross is shown forcing Allen into slave labor to make money, whereas in the manga, Allen only gambled to make money. Also, in canon Allen mentioned he only gambled if he and Cross were very broke. But in the episode, Cross forces Allen to gamble and steals his money when he's living off of a rich lover at the time. Allen mentions that his master was lover to a Maharajah's widow because he has a thing for rich women. WordOfGod however, has stated that Cross likes good women, not rich women. We also see Cross telling Allen to bring him a lion, which almost gets Allen killed, in addition to throwing Allen to legions of Akuma without training him. And Allen mentions that given Cross' horrible treatment of him, he battled with depression as a result, only finding happiness with Narain, a friend he met in India.
** Filler episode 25 Allen is shown to have a severe mistrust of all Exorcist Generals -saying that due to his bad experience with Cross, he didn't believe Generals were good people. There was also a scene where Yeegar speaks to Allen about Cross, saying that Cross he is the best at destroying Akuma, but that he's not isn't good at human interaction. Neither of these scenes were in the manga, and contradicted the canon of General Yeegar already being dead before Allen and Lenalee are sent to look for find Cross.
** Changes were also made to canon scenes where Cross is shown doing things in them that weren't in the manga. Such as the guards dragging Allen out of Cross' room at HQ. In the manga, Cross just watches as Allen is taken away. However in the anime, he smirks and hums mockingly while waving Allen off. In addition to stealing food from a vendor's the cart while talking of the vendor he spoke to him, which in Krory's village -which he wasn't shown doing in the manga.
** Finally In Hallow -the 2016 continuation, there were cases of scenes and lines being cut. In the manga, Cross hugs Allen, saying he wishes Nea had chosen another host as his vessel. Then he says he can't laugh at Tiedoll's open affection for his students in longer. He's also expression changes made shown wondering is sacrificing one thing always has to be done to protect something else, which hints he sees it as a case of IDidWhatIHadToDo. In the anime, Cross just tells Allen he's going to kill someone he loves when he becomes the 14th. Hie 2 lines about Tiedoll and DirtyBusiness are complete skipped over.
** Finally, both anime adaptations have a habit of changing
Cross' face, where he's shown facial expressions to include him smirking or scowling in scenes when he wasn't in canon. Example the manga. One such example includes Hallow's episode 13, which adapts the flashback chapter 206, where with Cross caring for young Allen. In the manga, toward the end, we see Cross sitting with Allen in the bedroom, and he has a sad expression on his face as he watches the traumatized Allen. In the anime's episode, [[http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/silverfang2/29185537/933115/933115_original.png Cross is shown sitting watching Allen with a young Allen, and looking to him with a guilty expression. In the anime, Hallow episode 13, Cross is shown scowling at Allen scowl on his face instead.]]
10th Feb '17 7:01:14 AM SilverFang
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* AdaptationalVillainy: Cross Marian suffers this in the anime. Episode 27: My Master, General Cross is infamous for the villainization of Cross' character -when Allen begins to tell Lenalee tales of how horrible his master is, so she'll know what to expect when they find him. The episode has Cross doing things that actually contradicted his canon manga characterization and WordOfGod.
** In the aforementioned episode, Cross is shown forcing Allen into slave labor to make money, whereas in the manga, Allen only gambled to make money. Also, in canon Allen mentioned he only gambled if he and Cross were very broke. But in the episode, Cross forces Allen to gamble and steals his money when he's living off of a rich lover at the time. We also see Cross telling Allen to bring him a lion, which almost gets Allen killed, in addition to throwing Allen to legions of Akuma without training him. And Allen mentions that given Cross' horrible treatment of him, he battled with depression as a result, only finding happiness with Narain, a friend he met in India.

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* AdaptationalVillainy: Cross Marian suffers this in the anime. Episode 27: My Master, General Cross is infamous for the villainization of Cross' character -when Allen begins to tell Lenalee tales of how horrible his master is, so she'll know what to expect when they find him. The episode has Cross doing includes things from Cross that actually contradicted his canon manga characterization and WordOfGod.
** In the aforementioned episode, Cross is shown forcing Allen into slave labor to make money, whereas in the manga, Allen only gambled to make money. Also, in canon Allen mentioned he only gambled if he and Cross were very broke. But in the episode, Cross forces Allen to gamble and steals his money when he's living off of a rich lover at the time. Allen mentions that his master was lover to a Maharajah's widow because he has a thing for rich women. WordOfGod however, has stated that Cross likes good women, not rich women. We also see Cross telling Allen to bring him a lion, which almost gets Allen killed, in addition to throwing Allen to legions of Akuma without training him. And Allen mentions that given Cross' horrible treatment of him, he battled with depression as a result, only finding happiness with Narain, a friend he met in India.
10th Feb '17 6:58:30 AM SilverFang
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** Episode 25 had a scene where Yeegar speaks to Allen about Cross. He says Cross is the best at destroying Akuma, but that he's not a person who is good at human interaction. This scene was filler, along with the entire episode, and contradicted the canon of General Yeegar already being dead before Allen and Lenalee are sent to look for Cross.

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** Episode Filler episode 25 had Allen is shown to have a severe mistrust of all Exorcist Generals -saying that due to his bad experience with Cross, he didn't believe Generals were good people. There was also a scene where Yeegar speaks to Allen about Cross. He says Cross, saying that Cross is the best at destroying Akuma, but that he's not a person who is good at human interaction. This scene was filler, along with Neither of these scenes were in the entire episode, manga, and contradicted the canon of General Yeegar already being dead before Allen and Lenalee are sent to look for Cross.



** Finally there were also expression changes made to Cross' face, where he's shown smirking or scowling. Example includes chapter 206, where Cross is shown sitting with a young Allen, and looking to him with a guilty expression. In the anime, Hallow episode 13, Cross is shown scowling at Allen instead.

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** Finally there were also expression changes made to Cross' face, where he's shown smirking or scowling.scowling in scenes he wasn't in canon. Example includes chapter 206, where Cross is shown sitting with a young Allen, and looking to him with a guilty expression. In the anime, Hallow episode 13, Cross is shown scowling at Allen instead.
10th Feb '17 6:51:26 AM SilverFang
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* AdaptationalVillainy: Cross Marian suffers this in the anime. First there's his treatment of Allen. The anime has Cross asking Allen to bring him lions, selling him into slave labor, and at one point, pinning him to a wall to take his money. The scene reminiscent of a pimp and prostitute, including Allen asking Cross how long he's going to be forced to make money for him. Also, the latter scene happened while Cross was living in a palace with a Maharajah's widow. Thus, he wasn't in dire need of money at that point. Manga-wise, Allen said he gambled if they really needed money. None of the aforementioned scenes happened, or have even been hinted at this point. There's also the scene where guards drag Allen away from Cross in HQ, and Cross waves him off, while smirking and humming. In the manga, the latter things with Cross didn't happen. All Cross does is watch.
** Episode 27 has another, Cross is said to have taken money from a woman when her boyfriend came after him. He is shown being a lover to a rich widow, and Allen states Cross has a thing for rich women. However, WordOfGod states Cross likes "*good* women." So the anime makes Cross look like a gold-digger, who specifically targets women with money he can get.

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* AdaptationalVillainy: Cross Marian suffers this in the anime. First there's Episode 27: My Master, General Cross is infamous for the villainization of Cross' character -when Allen begins to tell Lenalee tales of how horrible his treatment of Allen. master is, so she'll know what to expect when they find him. The anime episode has Cross asking doing things that actually contradicted his canon manga characterization and WordOfGod.
** In the aforementioned episode, Cross is shown forcing Allen into slave labor to make money, whereas in the manga, Allen only gambled to make money. Also, in canon Allen mentioned he only gambled if he and Cross were very broke. But in the episode, Cross forces Allen to gamble and steals his money when he's living off of a rich lover at the time. We also see Cross telling
Allen to bring him lions, selling him into slave labor, and at one point, pinning him a lion, which almost gets Allen killed, in addition to a wall throwing Allen to take his money. The legions of Akuma without training him. And Allen mentions that given Cross' horrible treatment of him, he battled with depression as a result, only finding happiness with Narain, a friend he met in India.
** Episode 25 had a
scene reminiscent of a pimp and prostitute, including where Yeegar speaks to Allen asking about Cross. He says Cross how long is the best at destroying Akuma, but that he's going to be forced to make money for him. Also, the latter not a person who is good at human interaction. This scene happened was filler, along with the entire episode, and contradicted the canon of General Yeegar already being dead before Allen and Lenalee are sent to look for Cross.
** Changes were also made to canon scenes where Cross is shown doing things in them that weren't in the manga. Such as the guards dragging Allen out of Cross' room at HQ. In the manga, Cross just watches as Allen is taken away. However in the anime, he smirks and hums mockingly
while Cross was living in waving Allen off. In addition to stealing food from a palace with a Maharajah's widow. Thus, vendor's cart while talking to him, which he wasn't shown doing in dire need of money at that point. Manga-wise, Allen said he gambled if they really needed money. None of the aforementioned scenes happened, or have even been hinted at this point. There's manga.
** Finally there were
also the scene expression changes made to Cross' face, where guards drag Allen away from Cross in HQ, and Cross waves him off, while he's shown smirking and humming. In the manga, the latter things with Cross didn't happen. All Cross does is watch.
** Episode 27 has another,
or scowling. Example includes chapter 206, where Cross is said shown sitting with a young Allen, and looking to have taken money from him with a woman when her boyfriend came after him. He guilty expression. In the anime, Hallow episode 13, Cross is shown being a lover to a rich widow, and scowling at Allen states Cross has a thing for rich women. However, WordOfGod states Cross likes "*good* women." So the anime makes Cross look like a gold-digger, who specifically targets women with money he can get.instead.
10th Feb '17 6:38:19 AM SilverFang
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* ReligiousBruiser: Cross Marian seems to fit here. He's known for being a badass character. Formerly an Exorcist General of The Black Order, and Scientist. His Innocence was a powerful revolver named Judgement, which had homing bullets that never missed their target. [[spoiler: He's strong enough to survive being shot in the head by his own innocence -only being [[ConvenientComa comatose]] as a result.]] He likes to smoke, and drink, while also having fondness for women, along with interest in visiting the red-light districts. But he's a man of the cloth nonetheless. He is referred to as a priest by villagers who have met him. Allen mentions him being very threatening despite his priest attire after meeting him in Reverse. Hoshino also drew him in priest robes on the cover of the Reverse Novel. The church that he took Allen to, after picking him up, apparently belongs to him. It's revealed in Reverse Chapter one, of the first novel, by Mother, that she just watches over the church when Cross is away.
9th Feb '17 12:00:13 AM SilverFang
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* ComedicSociopathy: Cross's emotional and physical abuse of Allen is usually [[DudeNotFunny played for laughs]]. The least disturbing form this takes is his habit of racking up massive debts and leaving them for his 15-year-old apprentice to pay, or, in a case that actually ''was'' funny, for ''the guys who were trying to kill him''.
** As of Chara Gray, Cross takes it UpToEleven--while the events in the framing story are in the same spirit as a FourthWallMailSlot page when it comes to how canon they are, Cross manages to somehow pile on more debts on Allen despite, as Allen [[{{Lampshade}} notes]], [[spoiler:it being uncertain if Cross is alive or dead.]]

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* ComedicSociopathy: Cross's emotional and physical abuse of Allen is usually [[DudeNotFunny played for laughs]]. The least disturbing form However, this takes is his habit was more in the anime given Cross' AdaptationalVillainy. In the manga, Allen has only suffered genuine trauma with the amount of racking up massive debts he's had to pay off due to Cross. Whereas in the anime, Cross abandons Allen to be beaten by thugs, orders Allen to bring him man-eating animals, throws him to legions of Akuma without training him, and leaving them for his 15-year-old apprentice to pay, or, in a case having Allen so scarred that actually ''was'' funny, for ''the guys who he believed that all generals were trying evil due to kill him''.
his experience with Cross.
** As of Chara Gray, Cross takes it debts UpToEleven--while the events in the framing story are in the same spirit as a FourthWallMailSlot page when it comes to how canon they are, Cross manages to somehow pile on more debts on Allen despite, as Allen [[{{Lampshade}} notes]], [[spoiler:it being uncertain if Cross is alive or dead.]]
15th Jan '17 12:17:09 PM DustSnitch
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* NeverFoundTheBody: Cross. Meaning he is likely still alive (also considering he's far too BadAss to die).

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* NeverFoundTheBody: Cross. Meaning he is likely still alive (also considering he's far too BadAss badass to die).
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