History Main / WarIsGlorious

12th Jul '17 1:41:16 AM Ramidel
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* [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCrnF844_ww March of Cambeadth]] is probably one of the most jovial sounding. (On the album, it's bracketed by a sad ballad about leaving your sweetheart for battle and a lament of PyrrhicVictory, but as "Cambreadth" is by far Alexander's most famous work, this escapes most people's notice.)

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* Heather Alexander (now Alexander James Adams):
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[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCrnF844_ww March of Cambeadth]] is probably one of the most jovial sounding. (On the album, it's bracketed by a sad ballad sounding.
** "Courage Knows No Bounds" is primarily
about leaving your sweetheart for battle WarIsHell and a lament of wasteful PyrrhicVictory, but as "Cambreadth" is by far Alexander's most famous work, this escapes most people's notice.)it makes a point to commend the courage of the singer's comrades, who stood and gave their lives for that worthless victory.
7th Jul '17 10:36:43 AM MicoolTNT
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* ''Disney/{{Mulan}}''. ''Be a Man...''

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* %%* ''Disney/{{Mulan}}''. ''Be a Man...''



* ''Film/InglouriousBasterds'' [[note]]Like ''Film/StarshipTroopers'', it is also seen as a WarIsHell movie, given the brutal actions of the protagonists.[[/note]]

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* %%* ''Film/InglouriousBasterds'' [[note]]Like ''Film/StarshipTroopers'', it is also seen as a WarIsHell movie, given the brutal actions of the protagonists.[[/note]]
7th Jul '17 10:34:38 AM MicoolTNT
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* ''[[ComicBook/ThreeHundred 300]]''

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13th Jun '17 10:09:01 PM nombretomado
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* ''Film/TheGreenBerets'', ''Sergeant York'', ''Film/{{Glory}}'', ''Film/{{Patton}}'', ''Sands of Iwo Jima'': Many WorldWarII movies, especially older ones.

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* ''Film/TheGreenBerets'', ''Sergeant York'', ''Film/{{Glory}}'', ''Film/{{Patton}}'', ''Sands of Iwo Jima'': Many WorldWarII UsefulNotes/WorldWarII movies, especially older ones.



* ''Film/TheBigRedOne'' is the only major WorldWarII film directed by a veteran of that conflict and Samuel Fuller shows by and large that WarIsHell with little time for BandOfBrothers sentimentality and conventional wisdom. He does assert at the end, via AuthorAvatar and budding writer Zab(Keith Carradine) that,

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* ''Film/TheBigRedOne'' is the only major WorldWarII UsefulNotes/WorldWarII film directed by a veteran of that conflict and Samuel Fuller shows by and large that WarIsHell with little time for BandOfBrothers sentimentality and conventional wisdom. He does assert at the end, via AuthorAvatar and budding writer Zab(Keith Carradine) that,



* ''Film/VacationFromMarriage'': Although they went through a lot, both Cathy and Robert become better, stronger people because of their experiences in UsefulNotes/WorldWarTwo.

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* ''Film/VacationFromMarriage'': Although they went through a lot, both Cathy and Robert become better, stronger people because of their experiences in UsefulNotes/WorldWarTwo.UsefulNotes/WorldWarII.



* This was one of the key tenets of [[http://www.italianfuturism.org/manifestos/foundingmanifesto/ the Futurist Movement]] of the early 20th century. WorldWarOne cured most of them of that notion.

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* This was one of the key tenets of [[http://www.italianfuturism.org/manifestos/foundingmanifesto/ the Futurist Movement]] of the early 20th century. WorldWarOne UsefulNotes/WorldWarI cured most of them of that notion.



* Given that it drew a great deal of philosophical inspiration from futurism (see above), this is one of the cornerstones of fascist thought. In fascism, war is a purifying force, turning boys into men and purging the world of weakness by killing off undesirables. Unlike most philosophical utopias which strive for peace, an ideal fascist society is therefore defined by constant warfare, keeping the MasterRace strong and vital and rooting out any impurities that might develop. Needless to say, this doesn't work so well in real life - the diaries of German generals during the last days of WorldWarII contain a lot of grumbling about how Hitler's constant lust for violence had ground through their best troops and left only the traumatised, the broken, and the completely unready.

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* Given that it drew a great deal of philosophical inspiration from futurism (see above), this is one of the cornerstones of fascist thought. In fascism, war is a purifying force, turning boys into men and purging the world of weakness by killing off undesirables. Unlike most philosophical utopias which strive for peace, an ideal fascist society is therefore defined by constant warfare, keeping the MasterRace strong and vital and rooting out any impurities that might develop. Needless to say, this doesn't work so well in real life - the diaries of German generals during the last days of WorldWarII UsefulNotes/WorldWarII contain a lot of grumbling about how Hitler's constant lust for violence had ground through their best troops and left only the traumatised, the broken, and the completely unready.
11th Jun '17 8:20:01 PM nombretomado
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* Pretty much every one-off bad guy ever ( and most of the recurring ones) on ''XenaWarriorPrincess'', and Xena herself before her redemption.

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* Pretty much every one-off bad guy ever ( and most of the recurring ones) on ''XenaWarriorPrincess'', ''Series/XenaWarriorPrincess'', and Xena herself before her redemption.
10th Jun '17 10:30:05 AM nombretomado
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* During the WorldWarII, WinstonChurchill attempted to stir a similar sentiment with his speeches, particularly before and during the Battle of Britain when the UnitedKingdom stood well and truly alone[[note]] [[http://youtu.be/6Y9f8849Geo?t=32s Except for India, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, and South Africa]] - who between them had half again Britain's industry and (bar India, who dwarfed them all by more than 5:1) population]][[/note]] against [[UsefulNotes/AdolfHitler Hitler's]] UsefulNotes/NaziGermany. He was well aware that WarIsHell, but war was the only way to bring on a glorious dawn and awaken the world from the Axis nightmare.

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* During the WorldWarII, WinstonChurchill UsefulNotes/WorldWarII, UsefulNotes/WinstonChurchill attempted to stir a similar sentiment with his speeches, particularly before and during the Battle of Britain when the UnitedKingdom stood well and truly alone[[note]] [[http://youtu.be/6Y9f8849Geo?t=32s Except for India, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, and South Africa]] - who between them had half again Britain's industry and (bar India, who dwarfed them all by more than 5:1) population]][[/note]] against [[UsefulNotes/AdolfHitler Hitler's]] UsefulNotes/NaziGermany. He was well aware that WarIsHell, but war was the only way to bring on a glorious dawn and awaken the world from the Axis nightmare.
20th May '17 5:08:27 PM nombretomado
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* [[BoisterousBruiser Thorkell]] from ''VinlandSaga'' ''loves'' war. A lot. So much so that he ''[[HeelFaceRevolvingDoor switches sides twice]]'' in order to prolong the enjoyment of battle. He ''is'' a Viking, after all.

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* [[BoisterousBruiser Thorkell]] from ''VinlandSaga'' ''Manga/VinlandSaga'' ''loves'' war. A lot. So much so that he ''[[HeelFaceRevolvingDoor switches sides twice]]'' in order to prolong the enjoyment of battle. He ''is'' a Viking, after all.
13th May '17 12:00:58 AM jamespolk
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* Speaking of older American war stories, this trope is still played straight in 1922 novel ''Literature/OneOfOurs'' by Willa Cather. Claude Wheeler, a young dreamer who is discontent with his SmallTownBoredom life as a Nebraska farmer, finds purpose in life after he goes over to France to fight in UsefulNotes/WorldWarI. Even in 1922 Cather took criticism from folks like Creator/ErnestHemingway for writing of the war in this way.
--> "When she can see nothing that has come of it all but evil, she reads Claude's letters over again and reassures herself; for him the call was clear, the cause was glorious."
2nd May '17 6:08:27 AM CosmicFerret
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* This is what Tempus, the main GodOfWar in the ''TabletopGame/ForgottenRealms'' is about, and he takes measures to ensure that is what he remains about (specifically, he is involved in a DivineConflict in which he overmatches the other side to a nearly ridiculous degree -- but while he could easily smash Garagos, he doesn't ''want'' to pick up Garagos' portfolios of bloodlust and destruction).

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* This is what Tempus, the main GodOfWar WarGod in the ''TabletopGame/ForgottenRealms'' is about, and he takes measures to ensure that is what he remains about (specifically, he is involved in a DivineConflict in which he overmatches the other side to a nearly ridiculous degree -- but while he could easily smash Garagos, he doesn't ''want'' to pick up Garagos' portfolios of bloodlust and destruction).
26th Apr '17 5:05:30 PM FurryKef
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** Conversely, Hitler himself [[TheSocialDarwinist believed in a much darker version of this]]. To him, war was a noble crucible for races and civilisations. Winning a war meant your race had proved it's worth and won honour and glory, as well as full right to the conquered people's land and resources. Losing a war meant your race was weak and deserved whatever fate befell them. By 1945, when it was obvious that the Germans had lost, Hitler gave the order to implement scorched earth policies on German soil, not just to deny the Allies the use of German infrastructure, but [[YouHaveFailedMe also to punish the German people for losing "his" war]]. [[PragmaticVillainy Thankfully, saner heads prevailed in most cases]].

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** Conversely, Hitler himself [[TheSocialDarwinist believed in a much darker version of this]]. To him, war was a noble crucible for races and civilisations. Winning a war meant your race had proved it's its worth and won honour and glory, as well as full right to the conquered people's land and resources. Losing a war meant your race was weak and deserved whatever fate befell them. By 1945, when it was obvious that the Germans had lost, Hitler gave the order to implement scorched earth policies on German soil, not just to deny the Allies the use of German infrastructure, but [[YouHaveFailedMe also to punish the German people for losing "his" war]]. [[PragmaticVillainy Thankfully, saner heads prevailed in most cases]].
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