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Camacan
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09:30:34 PM May 25th 2011
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trims
01:09:55 AM Aug 1st 2012
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Someone should remove the John Stuart Mill quote from the Quotes page. The context in which this quote is said is clear that Mill is NOT glorifying war, but that war is preferable to the automatic capitulation of one's principles.

The full quote is:

"War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself."

That is, sometimes War is a necessary Evil, and people who fail to realize this are worse than those willing to fight when necessary.

This trope is about war being something DESIRABLE and to be actively encouraged as a Positive Thing, not just that war is not Evil. Mill is clear that certain things are worth fighting for, not that war is overall a good experience, which are different concepts.

Lilwik
09:19:56 PM Aug 1st 2012
I think that any quote that says that war can be good is certainly worthy of inclusion. They are so rare that they are precious.
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