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4. As a result, a steadily larger amount of knowledge about the villains becomes accumulated, which violates the NothingIsScarier rule. Villains are much more intimidating if we hardly know anything about them, and they come across as just being [[CompleteMonster single minded forces of nature]] with no real motivation other than [[ForTheEvulz to destroy things for the sake of it]]. Once writers start psychoanalyzing them and giving them definite reasons for what they do, they lose their menace.
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4. As a result, a steadily larger amount of knowledge about the villains becomes accumulated, which violates the NothingIsScarier rule. Villains are much more intimidating if we hardly know anything about them, and they come across as just being [[CompleteMonster single minded single-minded forces of nature]] nature with no real motivation other than [[ForTheEvulz to destroy things for the sake of it]]. Once writers start psychoanalyzing them and giving them definite reasons for what they do, they lose their menace.
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1. They can begin the transition to VillainProtagonist, as did Blizzard's Orcs, and Star Trek's Borg ultimately did in isolated examples.
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1. They can begin the transition to AntiHero or VillainProtagonist, as did Blizzard's Orcs, and Star Trek's Borg ultimately did in isolated examples.
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Villains who have gone through this process usually have three possible outcomes.
1. They can begin the transition to VillainProtagonist, as did Blizzard's Orcs, and Star Trek's Borg ultimately did in isolated examples.
2. They can become a ButtMonkey or source of cheap comedy. This has largely happened to DoctorWho's Daleks, who used to be TheDreaded, but now appear on game shows, at comic cons, and children's birthday parties.
3. They can be [[PutOnABus retired from use completely]].
1. They can begin the transition to VillainProtagonist, as did Blizzard's Orcs, and Star Trek's Borg ultimately did in isolated examples.
2. They can become a ButtMonkey or source of cheap comedy. This has largely happened to DoctorWho's Daleks, who used to be TheDreaded, but now appear on game shows, at comic cons, and children's birthday parties.
3. They can be [[PutOnABus retired from use completely]].
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This tends to happen as a result of the following process:-
1. An old or well-known series (particularly science fiction) has a famous signature villain that the fanbase loves.
2. The hero beats said villain(s) in their traditional form several times.
3. The writers become worried that fans will get bored with the villains unless they give said villains new strategies, or new forms of attack to use against the hero.
4. As a result, a steadily larger amount of knowledge about the villains becomes accumulated, which violates the NothingIsScarier rule. Villains are much more intimidating if we hardly know anything about them, and they come across as just being [[CompleteMonster single minded forces of nature]] with no real motivation other than [[ForTheEvulz to destroy things for the sake of it]]. Once writers start psychoanalyzing them and giving them definite reasons for what they do, they lose their menace.
1. An old or well-known series (particularly science fiction) has a famous signature villain that the fanbase loves.
2. The hero beats said villain(s) in their traditional form several times.
3. The writers become worried that fans will get bored with the villains unless they give said villains new strategies, or new forms of attack to use against the hero.
4. As a result, a steadily larger amount of knowledge about the villains becomes accumulated, which violates the NothingIsScarier rule. Villains are much more intimidating if we hardly know anything about them, and they come across as just being [[CompleteMonster single minded forces of nature]] with no real motivation other than [[ForTheEvulz to destroy things for the sake of it]]. Once writers start psychoanalyzing them and giving them definite reasons for what they do, they lose their menace.
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Of course, you can prevent this by ''not'' having [[FailureIsTheOnlyOption failure be the only option]] for the villain; let them win battles, but not the war, or let their EvilPlan [[YouCantThwartStageOne come closer and closer to completion while the heroes race to prevent its final success]]. Or, for the ''really'' cunning villain, [[UnwittingPawn dupe the heroes into doing what they wanted all along]] or [[XanatosGambit benefit from them foiling the plan.]] Subsequent writers may decide to make the villain NotSoHarmless with a particularly shocking move on their part. Or you can make them a DiscOneFinalBoss, and set up somebody who is far more evil and hasn't decayed yet.
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Of course, you can prevent this by ''not'' having [[FailureIsTheOnlyOption failure be the only option]] for the villain; let them win battles, but not the war, or let their EvilPlan [[YouCantThwartStageOne come closer and closer to completion while the heroes race to prevent its final success]]. Another alternative is for there to be more than one villain in an evil organization with [[ConservationOfCompetence different levels of competence]] or [[VileVillainLaughableLackey seriousness]], with a boss who the audience can take seriously even if his minions lose repeatedly. Or, for the ''really'' cunning villain, [[UnwittingPawn dupe the heroes into doing what they wanted all along]] or [[XanatosGambit benefit from them foiling the plan.]] Subsequent writers may decide to make the villain NotSoHarmless with a particularly shocking move on their part. Or you can make them a DiscOneFinalBoss, and set up somebody who is far more evil and hasn't decayed yet.
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* For the first two thirds of the 2009 storyline of Toys/{{Bionicle}}, [[BigBad Tuma]] is built up as a [[TheChessmaster Machiavellian]] {{Badass}}, and his Skrall warriors as [[BossInMookClothing each able to curb-stomp even the best Glatorian]] and using advanced militaristic tactics. The Legend Reborn presents Tuma as the DumbMuscle, who throws away any menace he had by holding onto the VillainBall with both hands, and serves merely as TheDragon to [[spoiler: [[TheMole Metus]]]]. The rest of the Skrall fare even worse, being tossed around effortlessly by the Glatorian they were supposedly more than a match for, while their tactics amount to {{Zerg Rush}}ing their opponents.
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* For the first two thirds of the 2009 storyline of Toys/{{Bionicle}}, [[BigBad Tuma]] is built up as a [[TheChessmaster Machiavellian]] {{Badass}}, Machiavellian badass]], and his Skrall warriors as [[BossInMookClothing each able to curb-stomp even the best Glatorian]] and using advanced militaristic tactics. The Legend Reborn presents Tuma as the DumbMuscle, who throws away any menace he had by holding onto the VillainBall with both hands, and serves merely as TheDragon to [[spoiler: [[TheMole Metus]]]]. The rest of the Skrall fare even worse, being tossed around effortlessly by the Glatorian they were supposedly more than a match for, while their tactics amount to {{Zerg Rush}}ing their opponents.
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** Necrons. When first formally introduced, they were supremely enigmatic horrors serving even more horrific beings, known for mysterious harvests of life, unknown plans, and ridiculously advanced technology. Fan perception of them quickly made them {{Omnicidal Maniac}}s to the public eye, and they began to be perceived as a race-wide CreatorsPet. The 5th Edition Codex has resulted in a serious hit to the Necrons' previously unknown and unstoppable nature in favor of shifting the focus towards the Tyranids and Chaos as the greatest threats facing humanity, [[TropesAreNotBad revealing much of their past and giving plenty of]] CharacterDevelopment to the race which as a natural consequence destroyed much of the mystery surrounding them, going from NothingIsScarier {{Omnicidal Maniac}}s to [[Tabletop/WahammerFantasy the Tomb Kings]] [[RecycledInSpace IN SPACE]]. The [[BrokenBase debate on whether this ruined the faction forever or breathed new life into them still rages to this day]].
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** Necrons. When first formally introduced, they were supremely enigmatic horrors serving even more horrific beings, known for mysterious harvests of life, unknown plans, and ridiculously advanced technology. Fan perception of them quickly made them {{Omnicidal Maniac}}s to the public eye, and they began to be perceived as a race-wide CreatorsPet. The 5th Edition Codex has resulted in a serious hit to the Necrons' previously unknown and unstoppable nature in favor of shifting the focus towards the Tyranids and Chaos as the greatest threats facing humanity, [[TropesAreNotBad revealing much of their past and giving plenty of]] CharacterDevelopment to the race which as a natural consequence destroyed much of the mystery surrounding them, going from NothingIsScarier {{Omnicidal Maniac}}s to [[Tabletop/WahammerFantasy [[Tabletop/WarhammerFantasy the Tomb Kings]] [[RecycledInSpace IN SPACE]]. The [[BrokenBase debate on whether this ruined the faction forever or breathed new life into them still rages to this day]].
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** Necrons. When first formally introduced, they were supremely enigmatic horrors serving even more horrific beings, known for mysterious harvests of life, unknown plans, and ridiculously advanced technology. Fan perception of them quickly made them {{Omnicidal Maniac}}s to the public eye, and they began to be perceived as a race-wide CreatorsPet. The 5th Edition Codex has resulted in a serious hit to the Necrons' previously unknown and unstoppable nature in favor of shifting the focus towards the Tyranids and Chaos as the greatest threats facing humanity.
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** Necrons. When first formally introduced, they were supremely enigmatic horrors serving even more horrific beings, known for mysterious harvests of life, unknown plans, and ridiculously advanced technology. Fan perception of them quickly made them {{Omnicidal Maniac}}s to the public eye, and they began to be perceived as a race-wide CreatorsPet. The 5th Edition Codex has resulted in a serious hit to the Necrons' previously unknown and unstoppable nature in favor of shifting the focus towards the Tyranids and Chaos as the greatest threats facing humanity.humanity, [[TropesAreNotBad revealing much of their past and giving plenty of]] CharacterDevelopment to the race which as a natural consequence destroyed much of the mystery surrounding them, going from NothingIsScarier {{Omnicidal Maniac}}s to [[Tabletop/WahammerFantasy the Tomb Kings]] [[RecycledInSpace IN SPACE]]. The [[BrokenBase debate on whether this ruined the faction forever or breathed new life into them still rages to this day]].
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* For the first two thirds of the 2009 storyline of Toys/{{Bionicle}}, [[BigBad Tuma]] is built up as a [[TheChessmaster Machiavellian]] {{Badass}}, and his Skrall warriors as [[BossInMookClothing each able to curb-stomp even the best Glatorian]] and using advanced militaristic tactics. The Legend Reborn presents Tuma as the DumbMuscle, who throws away any menace he had by holding onto the VillainBall with both hands, and serves merely as TheDragon to [[spoiler: [[TheMole Metus]]]]. The rest of the Skrall fare even worse, being tossed around effortlessly by the Glatorian they were supposedly more than a match for, while their tactics amount to {{Zerg Rush}}ing their opponents.
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* For the first two thirds of the 2009 storyline of Toys/{{Bionicle}}, [[BigBad Tuma]] is built up as a [[TheChessmaster Machiavellian]] {{Badass}}, and his Skrall warriors as [[BossInMookClothing each able to curb-stomp even the best Glatorian]] and using advanced militaristic tactics. The Legend Reborn presents Tuma as the DumbMuscle, who throws away any menace he had by holding onto the VillainBall with both hands, and serves merely as TheDragon to [[spoiler: [[TheMole Metus]]]]. The rest of the Skrall fare even worse, being tossed around effortlessly by the Glatorian they were supposedly more than a match for, while their tactics amount to {{Zerg Rush}}ing their opponents.
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* In any table top rpg with a significantly steep power curve, this can happen rather quickly. ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons'' (and ''TabletopGame/{{Pathfinder}})'' are the best known examples, where an enemy which is an absolute terror at one point could be a beatable boss a few levels later and a mook a few more after that. If the villain doesn't scale to the power level of each PlayerCharacter, this trope becomes almost inevitable.
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In most shows, FailureIsTheOnlyOption [[TheGoodGuysAlwaysWin for the]] {{Villains}}, because [[TheBadGuyWins success]] would mean that the villains TakeOverTheWorld, kill all the good guys, and otherwise do things that [[EvilOnlyHasToWinOnce make future episodes impossible]]. However, this eventually results in a ForegoneConclusion and a predictable plot, since it makes the audience wonder why TheHero is so concerned about an enemy that they've beaten six times already. Note that this does not apply to shows where the villains are supposed to be [[IneffectualSympatheticVillain incompetent jokes]] from the start.
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In most shows, FailureIsTheOnlyOption [[TheGoodGuysAlwaysWin for the]] {{Villains}}, because [[TheBadGuyWins success]] would mean that the villains TakeOverTheWorld, kill or imprison all the good guys, and otherwise do things that [[EvilOnlyHasToWinOnce make future episodes impossible]]. However, this eventually results in a ForegoneConclusion and a predictable plot, since it makes the audience wonder why TheHero is so concerned about an enemy that they've beaten six times already. Note that this does not apply to shows where the villains are supposed to be [[IneffectualSympatheticVillain incompetent jokes]] from the start.
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In most shows, FailureIsTheOnlyOption [[TheGoodGuysAlwaysWin for the]] {{Villains}}, because [[TheBadGuyWins success]] would mean that the villains TakeOverTheWorld, kill all the good guys, and otherwise do things that make future episodes impossible. However, this eventually results in a ForegoneConclusion and a predictable plot, since it makes the audience wonder why TheHero is so concerned about an enemy that they've beaten six times already. Note that this does not apply to shows where the villains are supposed to be [[IneffectualSympatheticVillain incompetent jokes]] from the start.
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In most shows, FailureIsTheOnlyOption [[TheGoodGuysAlwaysWin for the]] {{Villains}}, because [[TheBadGuyWins success]] would mean that the villains TakeOverTheWorld, kill all the good guys, and otherwise do things that [[EvilOnlyHasToWinOnce make future episodes impossible.impossible]]. However, this eventually results in a ForegoneConclusion and a predictable plot, since it makes the audience wonder why TheHero is so concerned about an enemy that they've beaten six times already. Note that this does not apply to shows where the villains are supposed to be [[IneffectualSympatheticVillain incompetent jokes]] from the start.
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See also DegradedBoss. Not to be confused with RedemptionDemotion, where the villian strength decays because of his HeelFaceTurn
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HeelFaceTurn.
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*** Worth pointing out that Abaddon's Black Crusades are commonly misinterpreted as failed attempts to conquer Cadia as a stepping stone to march onto Terra. The truth is only the last one was stalled at Cadia. Most of them were never intended to make long term territorial gains, and only two or three of them were even ''aimed at'' Cadia at all - the rest were simply massive rampages launched in random directions through Imperial space, destroying and defiling everything and everyone unfortunate enough to be standing in the way, and entire planets have been utterly wiped out and ''millions'' of lives were lost before they could be stopped. It's Chaos at it's "best": random and thoughtless destruction for the sake of it.
*** Games Workshop has spent the better part of 2013 trying their hardest to dispel this notion about Abaddon, eventually resorting to retconning eleven of his thirteen Black Crusades.
*** Games Workshop has spent the better part of 2013 trying their hardest to dispel this notion about Abaddon, eventually resorting to retconning eleven of his thirteen Black Crusades.
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*** Worth pointing out that Abaddon's Black Crusades are commonly misinterpreted as failed attempts to conquer Cadia as a stepping stone to march onto Terra. The truth is only the last one was stalled at Cadia. Most of them were never intended to make long term territorial gains, and only two or three of them were even ''aimed at'' Cadia at all - the rest were simply massive rampages launched in random directions through Imperial space, destroying and defiling everything and everyone unfortunate enough to be standing in the way, and entire planets have been utterly wiped out and ''millions'' of lives were lost before they could be stopped. It's Chaos at it's "best": random and thoughtless destruction for the sake of it.
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* ''FanFic/SonicXDarkChaos'' does this badly with the Metarex. In the canon ''SonicX'', the Metarex were a nearly unstoppable empire of powerful robots led by even more-powerful robot overlords that gave Super Sonic a run for his money. ''Dark Chaos'' reduces them to a side faction... and by the halfway point of the story, their armies are all but destroyed and their leaders have gone into hiding. It doesn't help that their motivations are also completely different from the canon; in the show, they wanted to exterminate all animal life in the galaxy and replace it with plant life. In ''Dark Chaos'', they're just trying to find a way to kill Tsali and revive their species by [[WellIntentionedExtremist any means necessary]].
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* ''FanFic/SonicXDarkChaos'' does this badly with the Metarex. In the canon ''SonicX'', the Metarex were a nearly unstoppable empire of powerful robots led by even more-powerful robot overlords that gave Super Sonic a run for his money. ''Dark Chaos'' reduces them to a side faction... and by the halfway point of the story, their armies are all but destroyed and their leaders have gone into hiding.hiding (with a collective VillainousBreakdown for good measure). It doesn't help that their motivations are also completely different from the canon; in the show, they wanted to exterminate all animal life in the galaxy and replace it with plant life. In ''Dark Chaos'', they're just trying to find a way to kill Tsali and revive their species by [[WellIntentionedExtremist any means necessary]].
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Contrast VillainSue, InvincibleVillain, FromNobodyToNightmare, and OnlyTheAuthorCanSaveThemNow, where a villain is '''too''' effective or scary. Believe it or not, those tropes suck the tension out of the villains even worse than this one. Also contrast AdaptationalVillainy, where a relatively non-villainous character in a work becomes dramatically more villainous in an adaptation, and VillainForgotToLevelGrind, where the villain never becomes any ''less'' formidable, but the hero becomes so much ''more'' powerful over time that a once threatening villain is no longer a problem.
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Contrast VillainSue, InvincibleVillain, FromNobodyToNightmare, and OnlyTheAuthorCanSaveThemNow, where a villain is '''too''' effective or scary. Believe it or not, those tropes suck the tension out of the villains even worse than this one. Also contrast AdaptationalVillainy, where a relatively non-villainous character in a work becomes dramatically more villainous in an adaptation, and VillainForgotToLevelGrind, where the villain never becomes any ''less'' formidable, but the hero becomes so much ''more'' powerful over time that a once threatening villain is no longer a problem.
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** In his first appearance during the Nostalgia Critic's review of ''Film/TheLastAirbender'', Shamalayan removed Critic's talent (he gets it back, even though "[[SelfDeprecation there wasn't much to lose]]"), and would have done it again in ''Devil'' if he hadn't been stopped by the actual Devil. Come ''Film/AfterEarth'', and he's become so predictable that Critic isn't even phased by him anymore.
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** In his first appearance during the Nostalgia Critic's review of ''Film/TheLastAirbender'', Shamalayan removed Critic's talent (he gets it back, even though "[[SelfDeprecation there wasn't much to lose]]"), and would have done it again in ''Devil'' if he hadn't been stopped by the actual Devil. Come ''Film/AfterEarth'', and he's become so predictable that Critic isn't even phased by him anymore. Heck, he even helps Critic out with his review of ''Film/{{Pixels}}'' by making Creator/PeterDinklage unfunny (a Reverse Shamalayan).
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* The VisualNovel/{{Danganronpa}} fanfic ''Fanfic/TheUltimateHope'' does an excellent job giving this treatment to Junko Enoshima through an amusing FailureMontage chronicling her inability create despair.
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A pre-emptive \"good riddance\", jaejay15.
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** Evilina was portrayed as silly in her first appearance, but still capable of being a CruelMercy ManipulativeBitch. Later on she TookALevelInDumbass and just cries when Critic punches her in the head.
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* ''FanFic/SonicXDarkChaos'' does this badly with the Metarex. In the canon ''SonicX'', the Metarex were a nearly unstoppable empire of powerful robots led by even more-powerful robot overlords that gave Super Sonic a run for his money. ''Dark Chaos'' reduces them to a side faction... and by the halfway point of the story, their armies are all but destroyed and their leaders have gone into hiding. It doesn't help that their motivations are also completely different from the canon; in the show, they wanted to exterminate all animal life in the galaxy and replace it with plant life. In ''Dark Chaos'', they're just trying to find a way to kill Tsali and revive their species by [[WellIntentionedExtremist any means necessary]].
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* ''FanFic/YoungJusticeDarknessFalls'': Depending on what you might think about The Light, you could say they underwent a form of this, since a lot of their subtle manipulations, small progresses and the like gets thrown out with what seems like Vandal Savage's nest egg plan to use Darkseid as HIS endgame. And then when Luthor cuts off the Light's legs by giving the league information about their operations, the Light essentially goes into hibernation for the most part, with any plans they have either done in public by Luthor or done by brute force. But even then, Klarion wasn't working for the light that time.
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Of course, you can prevent this by ''not'' having [[FailureIsTheOnlyOption failure be the only option]] for the villain; let them win battles, but not the war, or let their EvilPlan [[YouCantThwartStageOne come closer and closer to completion while the heroes race to prevent its final success]]. Or, for the ''really'' cunning villain, [[UnwittingPawn dupe the heroes into doing what they wanted all along]] or [[XanatosGambit benefit from them foiling the plan.]] Subsequent writers may decide to make the villain NotSoHarmless with a particularly shocking move on their part.
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Of course, you can prevent this by ''not'' having [[FailureIsTheOnlyOption failure be the only option]] for the villain; let them win battles, but not the war, or let their EvilPlan [[YouCantThwartStageOne come closer and closer to completion while the heroes race to prevent its final success]]. Or, for the ''really'' cunning villain, [[UnwittingPawn dupe the heroes into doing what they wanted all along]] or [[XanatosGambit benefit from them foiling the plan.]] Subsequent writers may decide to make the villain NotSoHarmless with a particularly shocking move on their part.
part. Or you can make them a DiscOneFinalBoss, and set up somebody who is far more evil and hasn't decayed yet.
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* [[spoiler:Discord, god of chaos and in general considered one of the best characters in ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'', is reduced to a brainwashed monster henchman of BigBad Titan near the end of ''Fanfic/MyLittleUnicorn'' and loses his reality warping abilities. To add insult to injury, he gets KilledOffForReal by Celestia.]]
** [[spoiler:The sequel also does this to Queen Chrysalis.]]
** [[spoiler:The sequel also does this to Queen Chrysalis.]]
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** [[spoiler:Discord, god of chaos and in general considered one of the best characters in ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'', is reduced to a brainwashed monster henchman of BigBad Titan near the end of''Fanfic/MyLittleUnicorn'' the story and loses his reality warping abilities. To add insult to injury, he gets KilledOffForReal by Celestia.]]
** [[spoiler:The sequel also does this to Queen Chrysalis.]]]]
** [[spoiler:Discord, god of chaos and in general considered one of the best characters in ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'', is reduced to a brainwashed monster henchman of BigBad Titan near the end of
** [[spoiler:The sequel also does this to Queen Chrysalis.
