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10th Dec '17 7:50:39 PM MasterN
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* The VisualNovel/{{Danganronpa}} fanfic ''Fanfic/TheUltimateHope'' does an excellent job giving this treatment to [[BigBad Monokuma]] ([[spoiler:Junko Enoshima]]) through an amusing FailureMontage chronicling thier [[IneffectualSympatheticVillain inability to create despair.]]

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* The VisualNovel/{{Danganronpa}} ''VisualNovel/{{Danganronpa}}'' fanfic ''Fanfic/TheUltimateHope'' does an excellent job giving this treatment to [[BigBad Monokuma]] ([[spoiler:Junko Enoshima]]) through an amusing FailureMontage chronicling thier [[IneffectualSympatheticVillain inability to create despair.]]
10th Dec '17 7:48:24 PM MasterN
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* The VisualNovel/{{Danganronpa}} fanfic ''Fanfic/TheUltimateHope'' does an excellent job giving this treatment to [[BigBad Monokuma]]([[spoiler:Junko Enoshima]]) through an amusing FailureMontage chronicling thier [[IneffectualSympatheticVillain inability to create despair.]]

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* The VisualNovel/{{Danganronpa}} fanfic ''Fanfic/TheUltimateHope'' does an excellent job giving this treatment to [[BigBad Monokuma]]([[spoiler:Junko Monokuma]] ([[spoiler:Junko Enoshima]]) through an amusing FailureMontage chronicling thier [[IneffectualSympatheticVillain inability to create despair.]]
10th Dec '17 7:48:02 PM MasterN
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* The VisualNovel/{{Danganronpa}} fanfic ''Fanfic/TheUltimateHope'' does an excellent job giving this treatment to Junko Enoshima through an amusing FailureMontage chronicling her inability create despair.

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* The VisualNovel/{{Danganronpa}} fanfic ''Fanfic/TheUltimateHope'' does an excellent job giving this treatment to Junko Enoshima [[BigBad Monokuma]]([[spoiler:Junko Enoshima]]) through an amusing FailureMontage chronicling her thier [[IneffectualSympatheticVillain inability to create despair.]]
14th Nov '17 6:43:09 AM Shadowgazer
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# They can become a ButtMonkey or source of cheap comedy. This has largely happened to ''Series/DoctorWho'''s Daleks, who used to be TheDreaded, but now appear on game shows, at comic cons, and children's birthday parties.

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# They can become a ButtMonkey or source of cheap comedy. This has largely happened to ''Series/DoctorWho'''s Daleks, who used to be TheDreaded, but now appear on game shows, at comic cons, and children's birthday parties.
8th Nov '17 7:44:24 AM xcountryguy
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* In a stunning and [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome awesome]] inversion, Fanfic/DungeonKeeperAmi features Mukrezar. Mukrezar is, and was, a Keeper of dubious competence, given to many Zany schemes (usually involving a RingOfPower). However, [[spoiler: since his resurrection]] he has shown such an assessment is significantly lacking. Apparently his resourcefulness, ability to bounce back from crushing defeat, and, most importantly, willingness to take incredible chances- and then ''turn them into victories even if they failed'' -was his greatest asset. Every appearance has only increased the estimation of his threat, despite being PluckyComicRelief.

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* In a stunning and [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome awesome]] inversion, Fanfic/DungeonKeeperAmi features Mukrezar. Mukrezar is, and was, a Keeper of dubious competence, given to many Zany schemes (usually involving a RingOfPower). However, [[spoiler: since [[spoiler:since his resurrection]] he has shown such an assessment is significantly lacking. Apparently his resourcefulness, ability to bounce back from crushing defeat, and, most importantly, willingness to take incredible chances- and then ''turn them into victories even if they failed'' -was his greatest asset. Every appearance has only increased the estimation of his threat, despite being PluckyComicRelief.



* For the first two thirds of the 2009 storyline of Toys/{{Bionicle}}, [[BigBad Tuma]] is built up as a [[TheChessmaster Machiavellian badass]], and his Skrall warriors as [[BossInMookClothing each able to curb-stomp even the best Glatorian]] and using advanced militaristic tactics. The Legend Reborn presents Tuma as the DumbMuscle, who throws away any menace he had by holding onto the VillainBall with both hands, and serves merely as TheDragon to [[spoiler: [[TheMole Metus]]]]. The rest of the Skrall fare even worse, being tossed around effortlessly by the Glatorian they were supposedly more than a match for, while their tactics amount to {{Zerg Rush}}ing their opponents.

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* For the first two thirds of the 2009 storyline of Toys/{{Bionicle}}, [[BigBad Tuma]] is built up as a [[TheChessmaster Machiavellian badass]], and his Skrall warriors as [[BossInMookClothing each able to curb-stomp even the best Glatorian]] and using advanced militaristic tactics. The Legend Reborn presents Tuma as the DumbMuscle, who throws away any menace he had by holding onto the VillainBall with both hands, and serves merely as TheDragon to [[spoiler: [[TheMole [[spoiler:[[TheMole Metus]]]]. The rest of the Skrall fare even worse, being tossed around effortlessly by the Glatorian they were supposedly more than a match for, while their tactics amount to {{Zerg Rush}}ing their opponents.
5th Nov '17 3:51:17 PM CyberTiger88
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Compare and contrast FailureHero. Same concept--repeated failures [[InformedAbility ruins their credibility]]--different role.

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Compare and contrast FailureHero. Same concept--repeated concept - repeated failures [[InformedAbility ruins their credibility]]--different credibility]] - different role.
5th Nov '17 3:49:54 PM CyberTiger88
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This tends to happen as a result of the following process:-

1. An old or well-known series (particularly science fiction) has a famous signature villain that the fanbase loves.

2. The hero beats said villain(s) in their traditional form several times.

3. The writers become worried that fans will get bored with the villains unless they give said villains new strategies, or new forms of attack to use against the hero.

4. As a result, a steadily larger amount of knowledge about the villains becomes accumulated, which violates the NothingIsScarier rule. Villains are much more intimidating if we hardly know anything about them, and they come across as just being single-minded forces of nature with no real motivation other than [[ForTheEvulz to destroy things for the sake of it]]. Once writers start psychoanalyzing them and giving them definite reasons for what they do, they lose their menace.

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This tends to happen as a result of the following process:-

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An old or well-known series (particularly science fiction) has a famous signature villain that the fanbase loves.

2. # The hero beats said villain(s) in their traditional form several times.

3. # The writers become worried that fans will get bored with the villains unless they give said villains new strategies, or new forms of attack to use against the hero.

4. # As a result, a steadily larger amount of knowledge about the villains becomes accumulated, which violates the NothingIsScarier rule. Villains are much more intimidating if we hardly know anything about them, and they come across as just being single-minded forces of nature with no real motivation other than [[ForTheEvulz to destroy things for the sake of it]]. Once writers start psychoanalyzing them and giving them definite reasons for what they do, they lose their menace.



1. They can begin the transition to AntiHero or VillainProtagonist, as did Warcraft's Orcs, and Star Trek's Borg ultimately did in isolated examples.

2. They can become a ButtMonkey or source of cheap comedy. This has largely happened to ''Series/DoctorWho'''s Daleks, who used to be TheDreaded, but now appear on game shows, at comic cons, and children's birthday parties.

3. They can be [[PutOnABus retired from use completely]].

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1. # They can begin the transition to AntiHero or VillainProtagonist, as did Warcraft's Orcs, and Star Trek's Borg ultimately did in isolated examples.

2. # They can become a ButtMonkey or source of cheap comedy. This has largely happened to ''Series/DoctorWho'''s Daleks, who used to be TheDreaded, but now appear on game shows, at comic cons, and children's birthday parties.

3. # They can be [[PutOnABus retired from use completely]].
21st Aug '17 8:47:29 AM Lopiny
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** During the ''Gathering Storm'' events, Asdrubael Vect, effective leader of the Dark Eldar, got hit pretty hard with this in one fell swoop, both in-universe and outside. An incident he couldn't have foreseen ([[spoiler:Ynnead destructively picking an avatar]]) caused a giant cataclysm inside Commorragh that he had expected, yet the plans he had to stop it failed, he panicked in front of everyone (which severely undermined his reputation), and whatever improvisations he could come up with weren't enough to keep the situation under control, with other groups he didn't even have a hand in being the ones to save the day. As such, his plans were all shredded to nothing, there is active plotting to overthrow him (which used to be unthinkable), several of his loyal underlings ran off to join the new faction this spawned, and the moment he tried to say this was AllAccordingToPlan everyone smelled the bullshit from the start, ending his ConsummateLiar streak. As a result, within Commorragh his reputation has basically ''inverted'' and his survival is uncertain, and to the fanbase he now just looks like a goon that will probably get [[KlingonPromotion cut down]], his millennia of {{Magnificent Bastard}}ry now lost [[SpannerInTheWorks in a deluge of unexpected plan-wrecking spanners]].
8th Aug '17 10:22:13 AM CosmicFerret
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* Prince Charming, already a fairly ineffectual villain in the ''Film/{{Shrek}}'' movies, gets decayed further to a minor protagonist in the ''Pinball/{{Shrek}}'' pinball game.

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* Prince Charming, already a fairly ineffectual villain in the ''Film/{{Shrek}}'' ''Franchise/{{Shrek}}'' movies, gets decayed further to a minor protagonist in the ''Pinball/{{Shrek}}'' pinball game.
4th Aug '17 10:58:51 PM TwinBird
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* King George in ''Theatre/{{Hamilton}}'' steadily loses poise as the British influence on the plot diminishes, first, at the start of the war, barely moving, singing ''at'' the audience in full regalia, then after Yorktown considerably more animated, and in the second act ''much'' more animated and more casually dressed, culminating in him joining in with the populace and throwing papers in Hamilton's face in "The Reynolds Pamphlet."
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