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14th Jan '16 6:21:57 AM Morgenthaler
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In most shows, FailureIsTheOnlyOption [[TheGoodGuysAlwaysWin for the]] {{Villains}}, because [[TheBadGuyWins success]] would mean that the villains TakeOverTheWorld, kill all the good guys, and otherwise do things that make future episodes impossible. However, this eventually results in a ForegoneConclusion and a predictable plot, since it makes the audience wonder why TheHero is so concerned about an enemy that they've beaten six times already. Note that this does not apply to shows where the villains are supposed to be [[IneffectualSympatheticVillain incompetent jokes]] from the start.

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In most shows, FailureIsTheOnlyOption [[TheGoodGuysAlwaysWin for the]] {{Villains}}, because [[TheBadGuyWins success]] would mean that the villains TakeOverTheWorld, kill all the good guys, and otherwise do things that [[EvilOnlyHasToWinOnce make future episodes impossible.impossible]]. However, this eventually results in a ForegoneConclusion and a predictable plot, since it makes the audience wonder why TheHero is so concerned about an enemy that they've beaten six times already. Note that this does not apply to shows where the villains are supposed to be [[IneffectualSympatheticVillain incompetent jokes]] from the start.
13th Dec '15 8:55:11 AM Quanyails
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See also DegradedBoss. Not to be confused with RedemptionDemotion, where the villian strength decays because of his HeelFaceTurn

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See also DegradedBoss. Not to be confused with RedemptionDemotion, where the villian villain strength decays because of his HeelFaceTurn
HeelFaceTurn.
31st Oct '15 3:33:23 PM MyFinalEdits
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*** Worth pointing out that Abaddon's Black Crusades are commonly misinterpreted as failed attempts to conquer Cadia as a stepping stone to march onto Terra. The truth is only the last one was stalled at Cadia. Most of them were never intended to make long term territorial gains, and only two or three of them were even ''aimed at'' Cadia at all - the rest were simply massive rampages launched in random directions through Imperial space, destroying and defiling everything and everyone unfortunate enough to be standing in the way, and entire planets have been utterly wiped out and ''millions'' of lives were lost before they could be stopped. It's Chaos at it's "best": random and thoughtless destruction for the sake of it.
*** Games Workshop has spent the better part of 2013 trying their hardest to dispel this notion about Abaddon, eventually resorting to retconning eleven of his thirteen Black Crusades.

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*** Worth pointing out that Abaddon's Black Crusades are commonly misinterpreted as failed attempts to conquer Cadia as a stepping stone to march onto Terra. The truth is only the last one was stalled at Cadia. Most of them were never intended to make long term territorial gains, and only two or three of them were even ''aimed at'' Cadia at all - the rest were simply massive rampages launched in random directions through Imperial space, destroying and defiling everything and everyone unfortunate enough to be standing in the way, and entire planets have been utterly wiped out and ''millions'' of lives were lost before they could be stopped. It's Chaos at it's "best": random and thoughtless destruction for the sake of it.
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** Games Workshop has spent the better part of 2013 trying their hardest to dispel this notion about Abaddon, eventually resorting to retconning eleven of his thirteen Black Crusades.
31st Oct '15 3:02:06 PM thatmadork
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*** Worth pointing out that Abaddon's Black Crusades are commonly misinterpreted as failed attempts to conquer Cadia as a stepping stone to march onto Terra. The truth is only the last one was stalled at Cadia. Most of them were never intended to make long term territorial gains, and only two or three of them were even ''aimed at'' Cadia at all - the rest were simply massive rampages launched in random directions through Imperial space, destroying and defiling everything and everyone unfortunate enough to be standing in the way, and entire planets have been utterly wiped out and ''millions'' of lives were lost before they could be stopped. It's Chaos at it's "best": random and thoughtless destruction for the sake of it.
29th Sep '15 7:06:49 AM EricNeoMatrix
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* ''FanFic/SonicXDarkChaos'' does this badly with the Metarex. In the canon ''SonicX'', the Metarex were a nearly unstoppable empire of powerful robots led by even more-powerful robot overlords that gave Super Sonic a run for his money. ''Dark Chaos'' reduces them to a side faction... and by the halfway point of the story, their armies are all but destroyed and their leaders have gone into hiding. It doesn't help that their motivations are also completely different from the canon; in the show, they wanted to exterminate all animal life in the galaxy and replace it with plant life. In ''Dark Chaos'', they're just trying to find a way to kill Tsali and revive their species by [[WellIntentionedExtremist any means necessary]].

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* ''FanFic/SonicXDarkChaos'' does this badly with the Metarex. In the canon ''SonicX'', the Metarex were a nearly unstoppable empire of powerful robots led by even more-powerful robot overlords that gave Super Sonic a run for his money. ''Dark Chaos'' reduces them to a side faction... and by the halfway point of the story, their armies are all but destroyed and their leaders have gone into hiding.hiding (with a collective VillainousBreakdown for good measure). It doesn't help that their motivations are also completely different from the canon; in the show, they wanted to exterminate all animal life in the galaxy and replace it with plant life. In ''Dark Chaos'', they're just trying to find a way to kill Tsali and revive their species by [[WellIntentionedExtremist any means necessary]].
16th Sep '15 3:06:32 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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Contrast VillainSue, InvincibleVillain, FromNobodyToNightmare, and OnlyTheAuthorCanSaveThemNow, where a villain is '''too''' effective or scary. Believe it or not, those tropes suck the tension out of the villains even worse than this one. Also contrast AdaptationalVillainy, where a relatively non-villainous character in a work becomes dramatically more villainous in an adaptation, and VillainForgotToLevelGrind, where the villain never becomes any ''less'' formidable, but the hero becomes so much ''more'' powerful over time that a once threatening villain is no longer a problem.

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Contrast VillainSue, InvincibleVillain, FromNobodyToNightmare, and OnlyTheAuthorCanSaveThemNow, where a villain is '''too''' effective or scary. Believe it or not, those tropes suck the tension out of the villains even worse than this one. Also contrast AdaptationalVillainy, where a relatively non-villainous character in a work becomes dramatically more villainous in an adaptation, and VillainForgotToLevelGrind, where the villain never becomes any ''less'' formidable, but the hero becomes so much ''more'' powerful over time that a once threatening villain is no longer a problem.
22nd Aug '15 11:16:25 AM iowaforever
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** In his first appearance during the Nostalgia Critic's review of ''Film/TheLastAirbender'', Shamalayan removed Critic's talent (he gets it back, even though "[[SelfDeprecation there wasn't much to lose]]"), and would have done it again in ''Devil'' if he hadn't been stopped by the actual Devil. Come ''Film/AfterEarth'', and he's become so predictable that Critic isn't even phased by him anymore.

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** In his first appearance during the Nostalgia Critic's review of ''Film/TheLastAirbender'', Shamalayan removed Critic's talent (he gets it back, even though "[[SelfDeprecation there wasn't much to lose]]"), and would have done it again in ''Devil'' if he hadn't been stopped by the actual Devil. Come ''Film/AfterEarth'', and he's become so predictable that Critic isn't even phased by him anymore. Heck, he even helps Critic out with his review of ''Film/{{Pixels}}'' by making Creator/PeterDinklage unfunny (a Reverse Shamalayan).
21st Jul '15 12:19:15 AM Alucard
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* The VisualNovel/{{Danganronpa}} fanfic ''Fanfic/TheUltimateHope'' does an excellent job giving this treatment to Junko Enoshima through an amusing FailureMontage chronicling her inability create despair.
22nd Jun '15 10:28:47 PM mlsmithca
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->'''Sideshow Bob''': ''Hello...''Bart''\\
'''Bart''': Oh, it's you, Bob. How' ya doin' fucker?\\

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->'''Sideshow Bob''': ''Hello...''Bart''\\
''Hello, Bart...''\\
'''Bart''': Oh, it's you, Bob. How' ya doin' fucker?\\doin'?\\



'''Bart''': I ain't afraid of yo bitch ass. Every time we tangle you end up jail!

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'''Bart''': I ain't Hey, I'm not afraid of yo bitch ass. you. Every time we tangle you end wind up in jail!
22nd Jun '15 11:22:33 AM jaejay15
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->'''Sideshow Bob''': '''hello...''Bart''''\\

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->'''Sideshow Bob''': '''hello...''Bart''''\\''Hello...''Bart''\\
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